That UNKNOWN knife looks like a Civivi Praxis and should be 9Cr18MoV. And the CJRB was the "Kicker" model. (AR-RPM9 Sprayform steel) And I subscribed because almost no one ever does HRC testing in their videos. It's GREAT to see and THANK YOU!
@@Beastt17 I'm with Beastt17 on your testing ! So glad someone is testing these knives. Some inexpensive brands can be surprising & some expensive with a great reputation may disappoint. It's time we find the facts !
The CJRB Kicker did also come in D2 at one point. The Kicker model pre dates when CJRB introduced AR RPM9. when they started using RPM9 they stopped producing the D2 versions of all their mainstay knives like the Kicker
@@mcsquirgle yep, that's absolutely correct. I'm just not sure if they knew for certain that the one they had was D2, or if it might have been AR-RPM9.
@@apex_alchemy_knives I have five CJRB knives and I can't say I've been disappointed with any of them. But I don't have the equipment to test the blade hardness. So I'm even more impressed with them now.
I'd love to see the Flissa Bushcraft scandi knife HRC. I've put custom handles on two of them and so far the steel has been excellent. $19-$25 for D2 blades is the best deal ive found for doing handle mods. People say the steel is "probably crap" but I know better.
@@PotatoCheese when we get enough to organize , we most definitely will. I'm keeping an analog hand written version in My Knife Journals...and we share each month in a longer video. I'm not a fan of spreadsheets...I'm not sure if you are familiar with outpost 76 but he had a digital format of rockwell test. Someone hacked the account and deleted the info. Nobody can hack my pen and paper ...yet 😆🤣
@@apex_alchemy_knives ah damn, so that's why it's been unavailable for so long. But sounds good, thanks for hearing me out and I'll keep an eye out for the longer roundups.
@@PotatoCheese you bet, we will have a website soon so I'm sure it won't an issue getting the info transferred to that when it's up and going. I appreciate the suggestion
By how much, do you think? We have been testing different brands and same models when we can that have one coated and one not. So far, from what we have experienced it is usually 0.5-1 softer on coated.
Yes, the blade is marked but the text is so ridiculously small that it almost requires a magnifying glass or loupe to read it. My Praxis is marked right at the peak of pivot hump on the right side of the blade (assuming one is holding the knife in a normal fashion).
@@Warsmith_Honsou that's a matter of personal preference. I don't mind having some of the pertinent specs printed inconspicuously on the knife. Some people hate it. To each their own.
Two questions. 1) Does that machine make an indentation in the steel…I’m assuming it does. 2) Where did you get that machine and what brand/model is it? Thanks!
@@delaney3722 yes very small but present . ROCKWELL HR-150A. Indianapolis IN, $1699 , you can order it on ebay. Generic but good . You'll find it in Dr. Larin Thomas and BBB videos too. You'll see it rebranded a lot ...grizzly for example...or MSc...all have the same model number hr-150 😎🤜😁
Uhm... that was the "Kicker" model CJRB so it could be D2 or it may be Artisan Cutlery's proprietary AR-RPM9 steel which they marketed as Powdered Metallurgy, I'm not sure if the blade material was labeled or not. If it's AR-RPM9, Larrin Thomas performed several tests with a few sample knives and reported AR-RPM9 to be spray form steel, which is similar to powdered metallurgy, but results in somewhat larger carbides. The carbides are still much smaller than obtained through the ingot process. Compositionally, it's essentially the same as 9Cr18MoV, (with some very minor variation), but it's the process by which it is manufactured that results in a steel that is superior to 9Cr18MoV for use in blades.
OMG - I hadn't heard ricockulous in forever - thanks for putting a smile on my face 😅.🤙
Lol, you bet 🤣
Wow, new respect for CJRB
@@malcolmholt2010 tell me about it. We gotta make sure this isn't a fluke though
Thank you so much for doing this for the people!!
@@jamesmin2837 my pleasure 🙏
Shayne passed along his crag to me and I can’t say I’m surprised either!!!
@@Sharper_Than_Most I gotta get me some of these things. Especially for work
That UNKNOWN knife looks like a Civivi Praxis and should be 9Cr18MoV.
And the CJRB was the "Kicker" model. (AR-RPM9 Sprayform steel)
And I subscribed because almost no one ever does HRC testing in their videos. It's GREAT to see and THANK YOU!
@@Beastt17 thank you much. These are outta my spectrum ...but I tell you this, I'm about to become a cjrb fan boy if all of em that good.
@@Beastt17 I'm with Beastt17 on your testing ! So glad someone is testing these knives. Some inexpensive brands can be surprising & some expensive with a great reputation may disappoint. It's time we find the facts !
The CJRB Kicker did also come in D2 at one point. The Kicker model pre dates when CJRB introduced AR RPM9. when they started using RPM9 they stopped producing the D2 versions of all their mainstay knives like the Kicker
@@mcsquirgle yep, that's absolutely correct. I'm just not sure if they knew for certain that the one they had was D2, or if it might have been AR-RPM9.
@@apex_alchemy_knives I have five CJRB knives and I can't say I've been disappointed with any of them. But I don't have the equipment to test the blade hardness. So I'm even more impressed with them now.
I'd love to see the Flissa Bushcraft scandi knife HRC.
I've put custom handles on two of them and so far the steel has been excellent.
$19-$25 for D2 blades is the best deal ive found for doing handle mods.
People say the steel is "probably crap" but I know better.
I may check it out in the future
Thanks for these hardness testing vids! Any chance of putting together a datasheet for easier reference?
@@PotatoCheese when we get enough to organize , we most definitely will. I'm keeping an analog hand written version in My Knife Journals...and we share each month in a longer video. I'm not a fan of spreadsheets...I'm not sure if you are familiar with outpost 76 but he had a digital format of rockwell test. Someone hacked the account and deleted the info. Nobody can hack my pen and paper ...yet 😆🤣
@@apex_alchemy_knives ah damn, so that's why it's been unavailable for so long.
But sounds good, thanks for hearing me out and I'll keep an eye out for the longer roundups.
@@PotatoCheese you bet, we will have a website soon so I'm sure it won't an issue getting the info transferred to that when it's up and going. I appreciate the suggestion
The civivi Praxis is porbably
9cr18mov
@@andrewfournier8817 good to know. Thanks
Praxis civivi
@@BolsteredBlades thank you
coatings on blades throw the hrc off.
By how much, do you think? We have been testing different brands and same models when we can that have one coated and one not. So far, from what we have experienced it is usually 0.5-1 softer on coated.
Civivi marks the steel, take a closer look at the base of the blade, when you open it and close.
@@Warsmith_Honsou they're back with their owner, but I'll take your word for it. 😎💯
Yes, the blade is marked but the text is so ridiculously small that it almost requires a magnifying glass or loupe to read it. My Praxis is marked right at the peak of pivot hump on the right side of the blade (assuming one is holding the knife in a normal fashion).
@@Beastt17 It’s better than having a logo on the entire blade.
@@Warsmith_Honsou that's a matter of personal preference. I don't mind having some of the pertinent specs printed inconspicuously on the knife. Some people hate it. To each their own.
@@Beastt17 Great. Now we know that you and I like the opposite, at least when it comes to the inscriptions on the blade.😆
Not surprised, my CJRB in D2 was excellent, never sharpened it in 2 years of ownership
@@shaynegablespkr don't say that too loud. Prices will sky rocket
Like these testing videos. But I haven't seen you test any of spydercos 15v, do you have any to test?
@@chriswebb3018 I tested a muke team bbb 15 v about 7 or 8 videos back 😎🤜🤛
That CJRB rocks
@@kathleensmith370 you ain't lying
Two questions. 1) Does that machine make an indentation in the steel…I’m assuming it does. 2) Where did you get that machine and what brand/model is it? Thanks!
@@delaney3722 yes very small but present . ROCKWELL HR-150A. Indianapolis IN, $1699 , you can order it on ebay. Generic but good . You'll find it in Dr. Larin Thomas and BBB videos too. You'll see it rebranded a lot ...grizzly for example...or MSc...all have the same model number hr-150 😎🤜😁
@@apex_alchemy_knives thanks brother!
@@delaney3722 you bet
CJRB’s slaves worked overtime.
@@5door shame ain't it ?
I wonder if all cjrb d2 is that high
@@jamielong5716 who knows? I may need to find out
Would be sweet. I have a couple in D2 & I've been impressed.
@@tombrown4683 I was thinking about picking a couple of em up and seeing what's up.
Uhm... that was the "Kicker" model CJRB so it could be D2 or it may be Artisan Cutlery's proprietary AR-RPM9 steel which they marketed as Powdered Metallurgy, I'm not sure if the blade material was labeled or not.
If it's AR-RPM9, Larrin Thomas performed several tests with a few sample knives and reported AR-RPM9 to be spray form steel, which is similar to powdered metallurgy, but results in somewhat larger carbides. The carbides are still much smaller than obtained through the ingot process. Compositionally, it's essentially the same as 9Cr18MoV, (with some very minor variation), but it's the process by which it is manufactured that results in a steel that is superior to 9Cr18MoV for use in blades.
@@Beastt17 yes sir , the blades are marked. I did see that video the Larrin did on the arrpm9 ...that was interesting.
Really appreciate you guys that keep companies in check just subbed. I of course follow you on ig but now I am official
@@user-Bladewalker we appreciate you bro
Absolutely buddy