Everything GREAT About Suicide Squad!
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- Опубліковано 15 гру 2016
- Suicide Squad. Hated more than Batman v Superman? Hard to say. While not everything the critics said was wrong, everyone oversold the awful quite a bit. Here's everything right with Suicide Squad.
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The reason I like “Wins” over “Sins” is, he leaves room for you to disagree with him.
CaptAssassin I never really liked Cinema Sins because I think he’s always bitching and doesn’t look at the beautiful part of the movie
but Cinema Wins tries to look at both
And Jared did try his best I think the problem was he was a little intimidated to play the role after he saw Heath ledger
Yes, sins don't explicitly say there is in the videos but on their channel intro, they say multiple times they are for jokes and nothing more. Also in that same intro, they say that many of them enjoy what they would consider "bad" movies. Now I agree with the idea that all entertainment is subjective, but only to a degree. The reason movies have those critical guidelines are because they work well when telling a story. That's what critique is based off. I have never seen this movie and I honestly don't plan to. I have seen both upsides and downsides to the movie and for me, I don't see it worth my time or money. It's the same reason I won't touch Fallout 76. There are many people that like both that game and this movie, but I personally won't touch them because from what I've seen they seem like a bad buy (especially 76 with it just being assets stolen from previous games to fund other projects). You don't have to agree and that's fine, but I do hope you respect that there is a reason people complain about entertainment.
I think that is a part of the joke, he is supposed to be nitpicky what he says goes, while this is more of a slightly less my way and more OUR way. he accepts everyones views and sees the brightside. sins, sees the dark side and tends to try and offend. but in the end its just two channels having fun doing what they love
I also don’t like cinema sins because he always sins for product placement
Companies use product placements to earn more money when making films whilst adding realism because when you look around you can see products all around you
I can't believe he didn't mention how Margot Robbie actually did the elevator stunt herself, in heels, with no wires.
@Miles Dodsworth Theres no one better to play harley imo. you can tell Margot understands harley and loves the character. She also helped produce birds of prey so it should be good.
@@sleepinginmoss did you go see birds of prey?
@@J1ntu I did. it was fast paced and kinda weird, but entertaining and very quirky lol. didn't feel like a dc film but it was funny at parts.
definitely Margot Robbies portrayal of Harley
Yea Margot does most of her stunts
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And I can’t even walk in heels-
Personally, I put Suicide Squad under guilty pleasure status. I'm aware that it's bad, but I enjoy it just the same.
Same
I feel that way about 2003 Daredevil
Bro same. I think I’ve seen this movie like atleast 50 times-
Yeah. It's not good but it's not bad.
the plot itself makes absolutely no sense but i still watch it sometimes bc the characters are amazing. still bitter about joker getting only a couple of minutes of screen time even tho they used him for promo tho.
I always liked how Harley isnt just a dumb blond shes actually very smart and just chooses to act the way she does cause she can.
Well, almost. She also fell into that vat of chemicals. But you have a good point
i mean she does have a Phd
@@knightwarrior8337 it's called a "comicbook movie" for a reason, y'know.
@@DoctorWhoKage I was just saying jeez
Yeah, but just why is she there? Deadshot is really good with guns, diablo is fucking demon, croc is really strog, boomernag idk, but harley have nothing special.
I just discovered CinemaWins.
My life has newfound meaning.
Amen!
Saaame I just found this
Cteklite same here!!! 😄
Cteklite welcome to cinema wins.
ME TOOOO
if you didn't like this movie, that's totally fine, if you like this movie, don't feel shame about it.
Respect ✊
That’s a fair point. While I can see how these films can be better than how Warner Bros. is dictating the series, there are moments in this film that I like that _just_ edge out the issues.
If you like this piece of shit movie than you have no idea on how to appreciate one and also have a terrible taste.
@@marllusgoncalves5613 Shut up marvel fanboy. Infinity War was totally shit. Suicide Squad were incredible
@@marllusgoncalves5613 you must be very stupid cause that's the entire point of his comment and this channel.
Leto wasn’t the best Joker by far, but I think he actually fit into this movie very well
Taylor Kawiti Agree. They were going for a modern, gangster Joker. And a hell of a lot of gangs have members tattooed all over just like him. And in some ways I found the most unpredictable, and unsettling - especially with the laugh. Of course Joaquin is my favorite Joker, that portrayal was too fantastically layered, but I get angry when Leto is shit or excluded in videos about the Joker.
I think his Joker is very underrated.
I think he is more of a modern day Joker
Taylor Kawiti i think he did really gd with what he had, he’s the worst but they are all gd
@@kimberlyhaines107 I agree. They needed a new joker for this film to properly fit the theme and new image.
Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn is perfect, she was my favorite part of the film.
i just hate the fact that they made Harley and the Joker a "#relationshipGoal" they are the prime textbook example of an abusive relationship.
Birb I love their relationship in the comics and old cartoons.
Jennu xx That version was blatantly abusive.
i hate that as well...
they somewhat romanticized/idealized their relationship...
Richard II No, the cartoon was good. It made it really clear how much Joker actually cared about her. None.
I actually like this new take on their relationship.
Character: **inhales and then exhales**
Cinemawins: Character breathing!**adds win**
Other side of the spectrum
Character: **inhales then exhales**
Cinemasins: Character wastes time breathing **adds two sins**
Reginald Radio yeah pretty much
This made me laugh really hard
Wow somebody's mad at positivity.
Kinda shows how subjective everything is. It's our choice to see the same thing as positive or negative, or somewhere in between.
Yes, it's an art and that's what art is...entirely subjective so in order to properly critique it must be looked at objectively. That cant be done when you're a fan of something that is "rival" to "DC" because current popular opinion is "DC is trash"
addition to win 89: the barrel on harley’s gun actually switches from hate to love when dead shot pulls the trigger
I actually didnt notice that!
timestamp?
Alliyah Jane Caelestis somewhere around 10:50
"Enjoy what you enjoy" well said, and I have a lot of respect for you having the confidence to stick to your opinions in this internet climate that can get over-saturated with negativity.
we need people like you
Well put. Be your own person, who cares what others think. If you like it, like I did, it's all that matters!
This movie has a lot of flaws, but I still enjoyed it
Everything great about the Star Wars Holiday Special.
I dare you.
No amount of optimism can find the good in that monstrosity.
MegaSoulhero Same. It was definitely not the best comic book movie, and was a bit disappointing in some aspects, but it was hella fun and enjoyable
Sure it's a hot mess, but it's fun and with future sequels they will
Learn from their mistakes too make it better😄
+MLG___xXXxxx Think he was replying to Star Gamer 3120
"I do not believe something created for entertainment can be judged objectively" thank you!
I know, right?! It always bugs the crap out of me whenever anyone says that any kind of art is ""objectively"" bad, because that's not logically possible! The lack of objectivity is literally what makes art art! Basically: people shouldn't misuse the word "objectively" when they actually just mean "very", "extremely", "thoroughly" or any other word just to emphasize the strength of their opinion on something subjective.
This only applies if you think art is created for you, subjectively, or if it's created as a critic piece of commentary on the world
@@Stathio I think there is a way to objectively measure the quality of art. And once art crosses that threshold of objective worth, then it is open to subjective preference. But at any level of objective quality, anyone can like or dislike something-- where their opinion falls is what determines if they have good taste or not
@@StewartFletcherI think you’re wrong. What determines good taste or or not. Being generally agreed upon?. I feel you just danced around the original point and left with “it’s totally objective”.
The key to Jared Leto's Joker is that he is HARLEY'S perception of the Joker.
I like Leto as the Joker. I couldn't see Heath as the Joker having a girlfriend, he was far too objective driven for love or anything else. Seeing Heath's Joker with Harley would be like seeing Darth Vader with a girlfriend. It would just be strange.
Heath's Joker could've had a girlfriend at a different stage of his life. For instance the meeting in Arkham after the Dark Knight was over would've been a good chance to give him something to do.
Joshua I LOVE Leto’s Joker (I’m furious I won’t see his full potential - though Joaquin would still beat him - yay Oscar!). I explained to my mom my thoughts about the designs and portrayals of Joker starting from 1989.
Jack Nicholson is a mobster Joker, as the mob was still active at that time, so his mannerisms and costume perfectly for the time period. Heath Ledger played the Joker at a time when people were paranoid about terrorists, hence his terrorist like actions during the film (and points to the makeup referencing the painter Francis Bacon - the one piece of art Jack Nicholson didn’t destroy), and his worldview. I feel the costuming was less important in this film, except for his makeup. Leto plays Joker at a time where we constantly hear about gangs and gangsters (especially if you live in California like I do), and what people thought were grills were pointed out as replacements of the teeth he lost when coming in contact with Batman. And nearly every gang now has a majority of members completely tattooed, so it’s not that crazy for him to be as well. And take away the tattoos he does look a bit like some of the newer Joker designs, and I actually liked that strange laugh because of how unsettling it sounded, and how he only let it out by putting the tattooed mouth on his hand up to his mouth, meaning you don’t know what is behind the hand. He’s unpredictable. And it didn’t help they cut a lot of his scenes, so I wish Ayers would release his version as he stated he showed Joker and Harley’s relationship was abusive, and it all got cut.
But Joaquin has became my favorite Joker ever. I’m happy “Parasite” won Best Picture, but I was hoping for “Joker” because it had so much to say (and I wish it had won more awards). But at least Leto gets to play Morbius now.
Or (spoilers for Rise of Skywalker)
Palpetine as a father. Or a grandfather. Or with a wife. Or in any kind of relationship really.
I like Jared Leto as the joker. He had very hard acts to follow. And he can only act to what is written.
Dawn Storm Well, in the novelization they at least explain it to a fair degree. That they kept trying to make clone bodies for him to inhabit (a bit like Voldemort before he’s finally able to create a new body in the 4th one - who does have some snake characteristics carry over), and they tended to be weak power wise, or go mad - maybe a bit of both. And when they finally DO get a fairly suitable clone power wise who doesn’t go cuckoo, he runs off with a human presumably, he as a clone develops some agency and independent thought. And with granddaddy/daddy Palps probably not liking that all that much - hence her mom and dad leaving her on a fairly literal junkyard planet (though still leaving her open to the dark or light side in a sense by no one REALLY monitoring her - even before they were killed unlike - though it probably epilepsy have been hard to find someone to trust and believe that). Though it seems they were barely able to have time to leave her behind before being killed themselves, not long before they both are killed by an assassin who can’t find Rey. Palpatine probably didn’t want a Skywalker redemption arc he’d (and we’ve had to witness to varying degrees 3 different times with Anakin, Luke, and Ben). If he found Rey early enough - less hassle she’d cause as she grew older.
Why can't they teach math like dead shot. More people would be interested.
That... I don't think that would be a good thing lol
@@anthonylongoria2638 You kidding me? It'll be better than calculus with a professor who loves his calculator so much that he wanted us to know the instantaneous speed of the calculator when it dropped to the ground after he chugged it from a 60' building.
Hello kids. Welcome to Geometry class with Deadshot
MATH IS MATH..
I hope you understand that reference
Samson Borbotko why would they change it?!
*This is America by Childish Gambino begins to play*
I'm really enjoying the positivity. it's what we need.
Ian Chapoy I agree
Ian Chapoy no it's not for this film
2011zbjr shut up your just a critic that can't have your own opinion and just listens to whatever critics say
Ian Chapoy yeah your so right
Ian Chapoy nah, I prefer both positive and negative for balance
The best part of the DCEU is probably the casting. Just about everyone in these movies fit near perfectly for me.
But don’t forget about the music and the cinematography
@@__M7MD It's the music for me, too. I felt my heart pumping after BvS thanks to the score.
Not Jared Leto as the Joker though
Gideon Han honestly I really liked Leto as the Joker, I think the studio ruined him in this movie by cutting almost all of his scenes
Yeah but alfred and Gordon dont fit for me.
Honestly, I really like Suicide Squad (the soundtrack plays a big role though). I mean I think it was a pretty straight forward movie with awesome characters. I love Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn and Jared Leto as the Joker. I think the two bounced off each other really well and made it a believable romance between two very insane people. Will Smith was awesome too, I just loved his story arc with his daughter! It made me go awe so many times!
alex Me too. They did Leto dirty though...
Personally, I liked Suicide Squad, in fact, I saw it two times. On purpose
me too
Same
Ditto.
It’s in my top 3 three films
Charley GWood Good lord, I would love to know what the other 2 films are in your “top 3 three films “
I personally liked this movie. Sure, while it has a ton of flaws, I still had plenty of fun with it. Well, the first two acts.
+Patricia Davis Yeah, girl. I love this movie, it's so cool.
I like this movie I was sad when I found out loads hated it
Omg same it was one of my favourite movies but everyone kept talking how they hated it so I didn't really talk about jt
@@sapi1572 same omg
I honestly liked this movie but Harley Quinn and joker keep me from loving it and good for you to stand by your opinions
11:02 I honestly love that scene it shows that she's trying to understand math in terms Deadshot can understand because of how long he was in jail and her now doing new subjects that are different than what she was doing when Deadshot was captured it shows that she's trying to not only understand the problem but appealing to her father's Hitman nature by using the gun shot anology to help him understand the new terms while also attempting to bond with him in the short time they have together it shows that even though she is fully aware of what her father has done it doesn't change her love for him and she is trying to make the little time they have together as memorable as possible knowing she would be a full grown adult by the time he gets out of prison
Even though the flaws of this movie were obvious, I still thoroughly enjoyed it.
Da Dragon Durp I mean, yeah, it wasn't the best, though it was one of those movies that is just...eh
Da Dragon Durp Same here
Da Dragon Durp 100% agreed.
Same. You won't get anything if you're looking for plot or character development but it's great popcorn material
Will and Maggie stole the show, it was funny at times, like when boomerang walked out, the action was cool to watch, like the street battle or the elevator fight, and Jared leto brings a we jokes that truley loves Harley and cares for her, this movie get 3 out of 5 stars
I feel like Suicide Squad gets to much crap. I personally really liked it. Now it's considered the worst film of all time? Seriously, it's not bad!
Dylan Fagan there's a difference between a good movie and just enjoying a movie, even if it's bad
It's a great movie, the characters are well thought out as well as the brief but impactful backstories, along with great special effects, a decent villain motive, and to top it off, a great mix of comedy and seriousness, with a few creepy moments.
Whoever said this was the worst movie ever clearly never saw The Room or Birdemic
Dylan Fagan yes if it was bad then how it grossed 745 million dollars without a china realease.
people like me who thought this movie is going to be awesome because of the trailer and got fucked in the ass with this abomination piss of shit.
the trailer was sooo misleading. it emotionally scared me :(
I adore Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn. Ever since I was a kid, Harley has been my FAVORITE comic book character of ANY comic, and I was so worried about how she was going to be portrayed on screen for the first time. But Robbie NAILED her complexity and the funhouse crazy that has always drawn me to the character in the first place.
I really want him to do "Everything Great about The Room". That will be... Interesting
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It's just a series of meme wins lol
I generally liked this movie dispite its flaws.
you're me
Completely agree with this. It IS possible to like a "bad" movie. Part of the reason why "Avatar" is still one of the most successful films of all time in the theater. Too many people like that bad movie for it to fail.
@@shindari Thanks :)
I liked it but Jared Letos didn't need that many tattoos and eyebrows would've been fine
this is so late but i agree. the plot isnt perfect but it was entertaining and thats all that matters in a movie for me.
I like how he glances over the act of how Badass of an actress Margot Robbie is! Remember all those stunts, like how she does a wall run in the elevator? That was real, no wires or anything! Also, now Margot Robbie can hold her breath or 5 minutes because of the underwater scene.
For not or, sorry
Princess TNT she did her own stunts and learned how to breath under water. plus jared leto walked around the streets laughing and picked the ones that got the most looks
Being a good stunt woman doesn't mean she's a good actress
She learned how to breathe underwater? Amazing, I didn't realise that was possible!
SamanthaPanther that's not much coming from you because you can't read
DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN HOW THE HELL YOU MADE ME LIKE SUICIDE SQUAD, WHAT KIND OF SORCERY IS THIS
the power of optimism, my friend
@@cravingspider6614 on the internet? HA!
@@beautifulmeeses That's what makes "CinemaWins" a hero. He battles relentlessly against the incessant haterade of the internet youtube community, and actually changes minds in the process.
It's called being a sheep.
MadJax CinemaWins sorcery.
This film had a ton of potential. The soundtrack was great, the actors were great, and the director was definitely capable of taking this idea and turning it into a good movie. Honestly, if you ask me, the whole thing reeked of studio interference and corporate mandates.
Finally! Someone who points out that you shouldn't feel ashamed for liking movies that aren't perfect.
Hunter Longbrake sorry but if u like this movie u have extremely bad taste
@@SparkySpice0911 people have their own opinions about if they enjoy movies or not. I actually enjoyed all of the DCEU movies, including the new Aquaman movie and this movie! Justice League was decent in my opinion.
@@SparkySpice0911 that's the entire point of his comment and this channel.
Hunter Longbrake aka me and Tasm 2
Hunter Longbrake I agree! one of my favorite movies is probably hot garbage but I still love it to death
with SJ, HISHE, cinemasin and countless others channel are doing all of the negative reviews and shit on every movies nowadays. man, every time there's a new video from you that just make me like this channel more and more. and as you've already said once on BvS, people nowadays are just too spoiled and like it to talk shit about the movie when it wasn't made in the Marvel formula! I mean it is easy to shit on movies nowadays with internet and other stuff that so easy to reach.
So, having a positive movies review channel are just awesome.
ChaSe Yú thanks for taking the owrds out of my mouth 😆😆😅
Mr. Lefty Lefty no problem. I just feel like it is easier to hate movies nowadays, because everyone thinks that they're the critics. especially with easy internet access and how easy it is to post a video online( UA-cam ), negativity are filled with most of the movies review channel( and DC get the most hates).
ChaSe Yú This isn't a movie review channel. This is meant to be CinemaSins' polar opposite; find the good in any movie.
Kyle Krazer at some point it is still consider a movie review, at least to me it is( and yes, I understand that this the opposite of CinemaSin, but at some point CinemaSin isn't like how they started with. now it is more like bitching and whining more than pointing out what's "wrong").
but then again, with SJ, HISHE, cinemasin etc and all the negativities, I just appreciate this channel more and more and like what they're doing here.
ChaSe Yú I get it.
Probably my least favorite of DC's cinematic universe, but I don't hate it. Glad to see it's getting some positivity
You liked BvS and Justice League more? Weird taste...
@@stephenforrister4992 BvS is way better. Josstice League? Nah, that's worse.
Stephen Forrister Suicide Squad is objectively worse than BvS. What are you on about?
Jared being always a win aged like milk on a hot summer day
It's like Tom Cruise: Do I like his personal life or his organizational associations? No. Does almost every actor who has ever worked with him say he's a great, generous, talented, veteran who makes the sets of his movies great places to be? Yeah.
I feel like Leto fits that same mold. I think he makes each move he's in better with his performance and attention to the craft. But he's also problematic.
It's a classic conundrum: Can we separate art from artist?
By the way, Leto quotes famous Joker lines in this movie and no one is talking about it. "If you weren't so crazy, I'd think you were insane" is straight out of Dark Detective, except he's describing himself - shows how he's realizing she's more like him than he thought. Furthermore, Ace Chemicals is mentioned, but we never really hear exactly how he ended up in the vat - just like in the comics, the Joker's origin isn't a complete mystery, but it's always hazy at best.
Another cool bit is how Joker has a booth at the club - most clubs would end up clearing out if he showed up, but just like in the comic "Joker," he owns this one, so everyone there is aware of the danger. In fact, that's probably why no one is actually hitting on Harley; Mask-guy is dancing on her, she's dancing on him. also explains why everyone there seems a bit crazy - you'd have to be to go to the Joker's club.
The sugar-skull vibe of Leto, combined with the (again!) hazy meaning of his tattoos and the neon-crocodile wardrobe makes him stand out while not feeling like he's straight out of a comic book. Instead, he's presented as being exactly what the Joker would be in the DCEU: a stylized version of the craziest people in the real world - drug lords. The little noises he makes and the way he seems to be on ecstasy all the damn time is intentional as well; while Batman broods, the Joker revels. Notice how he doesn't even mention Batman once in the film, also - Batman has started killing people quite recently, and the Joker has lost interest. Once Batman takes the guns off his Batmobile again, Joker will undoubtedly regain focus on the "flying rat."
And anyone who thought the smile tattoo on his hand was stupid isn't paying attention to the characterization of this Joker. These are all characters who have been living with the Batman for years. Once he loses his trademark smile, of course he is going to get a representation of it somewhere on his body. It is made incredibly clear throughout the film that his appearance is very important to the Joker - it's part of his message to the world: "all of this is pointless, so why not go nuts?"
I love how many people who claim to be comic fans all their life expose themselves by saying this Joker is all wrong. He is the closest they have ever gotten to the essence of the character, mixed with real life influences (real, extravagante druglords etc.)
I read comments about people who said "If you weren't so crazy, I'd think you were insane" is a stupid line and the Joker would never say something weird like that (yeah... the Joker would NEVER say something weird, right?). Some said the Joker would NEVER own a strip club. I heard a critic say that because the Joker has this weird fashion style he is automatically non-threatening. Then there are all those who say the Joker would NEVER sit quitely to get a tattoo... but none of them realized that Heath Ledger's Joker had to stand still for his costum made clothers (mentioned in the movie by Gordon).
It's all a bunch of nonsense. Everyone thinks they know everything about a character...
Jimmy Klimt Dude, you're the real deal. I love it when real fans correct the haters. You rock!
Well, if you watch the extended cut of SS (and actually the theatrical cut as well, though it's a bit more subtle), the claim that "Joker rewired her brain" can't be true because she was already calling him "Mistah J" when he broke out. In fact, it's heavily implied that she brought him a damn machine gun! David Ayer actually spoke on their relationship, saying that the Joker's way of justifying his caring about Harley was that he thought, "as long as he has her, nothing else matters" or something to that effect. Basically, his caring about her is a human flaw (in his mind) that he embraces as almost a sort of meta joke - even he can't help but fall it. Though he recognizes that she doesn't share the exact opinion of relationships (platonic or otherwise), her nihilism and general Camus-like philosophy about everything EXCEPT relationships makes her the perfect best friend for him to have. His attraction to her is only bolstered by the fact that she doesn't give a single shit what he looks like. She only cares about personality - hence why she admits Croc is "beautiful."
That was kind of just a bunch of random thoughts, so I'll summarize: while the relationship began in the comics as something incredibly abusive, the slow but sure destigmatization of Dominant/submissive relationships (even those without safewords and incorporating other wildly extreme behaviors) allowed writers to frame the Joker/Harley relationship in the comics as something else entirely. Take, for instance, Scott Snyder's recent run in the New 52. In Death of the Family, though it is implied that he doesn't truly care about Harley, it is eventually revealed that his abusive behavior is more of a twisted test - he is trying to see whether or not she truly shares his worldview. As she she eventually decided to strike out on her own, she did technically pass the test, though the unfortunate truth is that the Harley Quinn comic continues to move her away from his philosophy. Unfortunately as well, their break-up was handled incredibly poorly, as he was framed as your typical "wife-beater-wearing misogynist." The Joker doesn't treat women any worse than men - he's a piece of shit to everybody. When he does something horrible to someone like Barbara Gordon, it's not because he thinks she's lesser, but because he knows it will have the deepest impact.
Hopefully, the future of their relationship will center around Joker coming to terms with her being something different from himself.
As far as the movie is concerned, the handling of their relationship as the one thing that matters to both of them (though to Harley, relationships in general are what matters) allows them to keep to the basis on their philosophies as characters while also enhancing the paradoxical nature of their respective characterization. That's what truly shows how insane they are - nothing matters, yet they love each other.
That was a terrible summary. WAY too long. Too much caffeine.
Death of the Family also had Joker testing Harley to see is she had the resolve to truly be the one for him.
I liked this movie. I like The DCEU, I like the MCU. Yes, people like me exist.
I know. I may like MCU a bit more, but DCEU is great too.
you can get out. this place was not for you. it is for people like us who think both are great. you are not supposed to be replying to this comment.
Wilfredo Elias I like both bit atm I like the MCU more cause I think their movies are better
what are you 5
Shawn Stotler you do realize that not everyone hates these movies right? some poeple actually look at just the good and do there best to ignore the bad, not the other way around like most people.
Why everyone hate this movie? I mean really love every second of it. To me I love to see Jared as the joker.. Idk why so many people hate this movie 😢
KZico Lack of coherence plot. Boring characters. Painful color pallet. Talks down to audience. Terrible “acting” (save for two characters), and a shitty Ace Ventura Joker whose’s even more hammy than the Adam West version.
the joker is an ideology, he's even said that. that means that every views the joker as something different and there is no wrong answer to what or who the joker is. he is simply just the joker. some may see heath as the ideal joker, or hamill, or nicholson. some may not see any to fit joker properly and only view certain comic adaptions as the "true joker" but at the same time that's kindve the point. everyone is or has part of the joker inside of them and the joker knows that and he knows anyone can become like him. maybe with a few slight differences but in the end, it's just that realization or "super sanity" of how the world is and that all our morals and rules are simply just constructs we've let be placed on ourselves and scarred into our brains through generations. take for instance killing, it's seen as wrong, right? yet everyone already has the "survival of the fittest" mentality. before laws existed, killing wasn't seen as evil but instead it was seen as strong, protecting, or standing up for your beliefs. in some ways, it was seen more a "chaotic-good" or powerful trait but because laws and a societal majority say that it's "wrong" and "unlawful", we now also see it in those ways. in reality, we as humans are all just animals with animal instincts, but now we just have a "higher power" telling us what is wrong or right and the majority, they herd together and listen to those beliefs out of fear because the government, as a higher power, have the authority to control you or punish you in any way they believe fits and all for you disobeying them and abstaining to follow their beliefs.
the joker sees all of this and wants the rest of the world to wake up and realize they just hide their chaos. it's not "one bad day" that turns you into the joker. what makes you become him is seeing the world for what it is, understanding it and everyone in it, and having the willpower, intelligence, cunning, and.. well.. a little bit of crazy to tie it all together, to open the eyes of others to see how the world is. he's not chaos, the world is chaos. he sees himself as most likely the most normal one. his abnormality comes from his in-depth insight into how the world truely is and not what we're just told it is.
To most, it's a bad plotline and cookie-cutter characters, but I thought it was pretty fun, since I'm one of those people who watches every movie with my brain shut off. Just loads of mindless action and great casting, and to me, that's all I need.
Everything good about suicide squad
Margot Robbie
Will Smith
The color palette
Jack Robinson soundtrack
Hottest woman in the world
@RajunCajun34 Says the Virgin who can't even get CLOSE to a girl
I thought Jared Leto did a good Joker....Then again I didn't go in with a mindset comparing him to Heath Ledger, Jack Nicholson , Mark Hamill , Caesar Romero, or anyone else.... I gave him a chance came in with an open mind and just watched how Leto embodied the Joker...and I think what he was doing worked for his Joker and what they were trying to do.
And to be fair, Leto said they cut out pretty much all the character development he did in the film (and we didn't get to see that on the extended version, thanks, WB.). Hopefully, they'll show more in the Batman solo movie.
Chase Jenks I agree. He never really got a chance to be the joker. Because they were assholes and cut out almost everything.
Jared letos joker is awful
Joáo Cuitiño Araya Somebody needs to call Matt Reeves and tell him to put him in the movie, so we can get a Caesar vs Koba type fight and conflict between Batman and Joker
Chase Jenks I wasn't comparing him either... he was just a shit joker
Oh, it was the extended cut! I was completely thrown by some of the Harley scenes that I didn't recognize. I just adore her, so I need to see this version.
I still like the Joker jump scene. You can tell he'd intended to leave her there to die, and is visibly annoyed that he wants to save her instead.
I have two personal wins to add.
1) When Amanda Waller talks about the WW2 mafia deal. Real history right there, I did a paper on it. I'd call it a "realistic grounding win".
2) At 10:51 when Deadshot fires the gun, the chamber the bullet comes out of is one with the word "love" engraved on it. Best shot in the movie.
Even if I didn't really like this movie, CinemaWins is always better than overly pessimist CinemaSins.
nah cinemasins is funnier
Timeyin Sholaye
Oh sure, if we're so lazy and dumb that we only care about whether it's funny or not...
AboAbdulable Except thats the bloody point. To be funny. I am not surprised you didnt get it
Definitely not Dendi thank you exactly, whiners will whine
Timeyin Sholaye
Yes, but the problem is, some idiots take their "used to be funny" view on movies as actual unbiased criticism, which is basically brainwashing if you think about it
I've gotta thank you for allowing me to like movies that most people don't. Like most people, I walked out of BvS hating it. A little while later, I saw your video on it, and it changed how I saw the movie. Now I really like the Star Wars Prequels, BvS, and a bunch of other movies I initially hated. So thank you, CinemaWins, for opening my eyes.
Lord Dongus Sooo, is there any movie you don't like? Like, ever?
Gele Robev
Yes. I shouldn't have said "really like" for the Star Wars Prequels. I can just enjoy more parts than I originally could. And I'll never like The Last Airbender. These videos just assisted me in liking more parts of certain movies.
Lord Dongus Oh. Ok. Cool then. :D
Lord Dongus Dude! I pretty much just said that above to Yal Rathol!! It's about mindset for sure! BTW, I still hate #2 and #3 of the Prequels but I really like #1!! Ha!!
I started watching The Phantom Menace again after watching the video and I fell in love with it again
YES. I'm so glad that Jai Courtney is getting his credit. He was my favourite character aside from El Diablo and he played it so well and he's the ONLY character who played the "Suicide Squad" angle so well. If he gets a "sacrifice" like El Diablo in The Suicide Squad, the character is ruined
7:20 is just Margot Robbie. No wires. Just skills.
I never felt bad for liking this movie, when people would ask me why I did, I simply said it was fun and I had fun. There's not much else to it. I enjoyed watching these characters, I laughed, and that soundtrack is awesome. Also Margo Robbie truly is a perfect Harley Quinn.
Amanda Johnson there so development, exposition is dumped on u in an inefficient way, it has a generic villain and the plot isn’t very good. Most of the characters r boring but I do enjoy Harley and deadshot. Also the fact that enchantress sent a blue bean to the sky, and none of the superheroes in this universe that r more powerful than the suicide squad combined
I can try to see the good points of this movie, but how do you get over the fact that events are shown to us at the beginning, then showed to us again in the final act of the movie as if it's a big reveal? I couldn't help but think that the editing was finished at the last minute by an intern...
And then there is the fact that nothing seem to matter in the movie. For example, Boomerang instantly leaves when there is no more threat to is life anymore (in the bar scene), but he's back with everyone in the very next scene...
That is my one of my few legitimate complaints. The fake "reveal" that she pressed the button on the bomb. It wasn't a secret that she bailed. It was evidence that something wonky happened during editing. There may have possibly been a bigger reveal planned. But, c'est la vie. Most everything else doesn't bother me, even Boomerang coming back. I think he just wanted to see how it would all play out. And he liked Katana.
I thought Boomerang coming back was fitting. What happens when you throw a boomerang? .... They come back! :D
Digger has rogue honor, while not as clear cut its what I like about comic digger and the flash rogues, they're all about a pay day but have their lines that they don't cross
Boomerang coming back actually makes sense if we're talking character development. He went from "no honor among thieves" to actually learning honor among thieves. Could it have been done better? Absolutely. Did it break the movie or his character? Absolutely not.
You are literally not making any sense at all here.
The girl that played Harley learned to hold her breath for 5 minutes
9:22
Boomerang:"We should get a drink sometimes!"
James Gunn: *I'm about to end this man's entire career!*
Anyone who says Jai Courtney can't give a good performance clearly hasn't seen Spartacus
Inception Report I AM SPARTACUS
Varro!!!!!!!! *cries*
Inception Report HOLY FUCK, I NEVER REALIZED HE WAS VARRO, ITS BEEN SOOO LONG SINCE I SAW SPARTACUS :(
OH
OH, THATS WHY HE WAS FAMILIAR, GOD DAMMIT, Spartacus is a really good show and I loved his character in it
tbh suicide squad is only movie he acted really good.
I enjoyed Suicide Squat. It has its problems, no doubt about it, but I got immersed in the characters and stories of Deadshot, Harley and Joker. And that's what I went to the movies for.
+Ryan Ferguson Yeah, I really enjoyed this movie. Quite a lot.
You wanna know what makes this movie enjoyable ? Its how unique and likeable the characters look and feel. Not one person giving a bland performance and I can remember practically everyone. Each person has a bubble that no one shares. Deadshot, Harley Quinn, Captain Boomerang, Croccy, Captain Flagg, Amanda Walker, even Slipknot. Thats something you cant say in Fant4stic.
Next time you make a serious comment, please check your grammar.
Ryan Ferguson Yaah I love suicid sqwat
Angela Ziegler oh lol sorry I didn't realize. 😂 lol this is my life
I dont care what anyone says, I love Jared Leto's Joker and I would love to see him be the villain in a Batman movie in the near future.
I watched this in the cinema five times then bought the limited edition blu Ray and dvd lol.
I honestly absolutely love Letos Joker too.
I actually sympathize with Enchantress. She was worshipped only to be betrayed and trapped for thousands of years, then when she wakes up shes bonded to someone who hates her, and is being blackmailed with the threat of death by a psychopath like Waller.
You've actually done a better job at making Enchantress an interesting villain than the actual film did.
I know!
no, TRITON K175, he just spelled it out for you because they didn't spoonfeed it to you through exposition in the movie... you had to actually watch and pay attention.
This is a fair point; I can see a movie where Enchantress could make a compelling antagonist; it's a shame that even if Suicide Squad were executed flawlessly that she doesn't make much sense as its villain.
I mean, She blames humanity "abandoning" her on technology for no reason that the film explains, and her plan is...to create a vague device (you could even call it a machine) that does...something bad (presumably several murder)? She also has the major issue of not tying into the film's themes; it would've been a stretch to say so even if she had joined the team before becoming the antagonist.
As is the conflict of the film trivializes itself. Amanda Waller created the problem the Suicide Squad solves, so the squad wouldn't need to exist if she did not try to create it.
That is not actually true, I mean the last part. Moon found the statue and broke it herself, Enchantress was released without Waller's influence. We don't know why Enchantress didn't wreck havoc the second she was free, but we can fill in the blanks. Maybe she was gathering strenght, maybe she was fighting with Moon over control, maybe she was reconning the world, maybe there was a battle and she was caught soon after with cost of Waller's soldiers. But Waller managed to contain her. True, she used Enchantress in questionable ways and gave her opportunities to escape, but without her, she would be free to go and kill right away. Am I missing something? Tell me if I am.
I really, really liked the movie, it has flaws, but either small or not that important to me. I had lot of fun!
basically the only thing I didn't really like was Diablo dying.
The good ones always go
Glenndoria Davis i didn't realize he was dead atfirst
To be fair, none of them were 'good' to begin with.
No one ever stays dead in Superhero movies.
Lisa G movies? yes they do. comic books? no.
Days of Future Past brought back...everyone. Superman isn't dead. Loki isn't dead. June Moone isn't dead and I bet she gets to keep Enchantress powers. Zod was some toxic waste mutant zombie of some sort that was suppose to be Doomsday. Then there is Groot.
About Harley and joker I guess you could look at it through the toxic Stockholm syndrome way.
But how I choose to look at it like the joker is incapable of truly loving anyone but he also could have killed her at any moment. He kept her around for convenience and later on developed an attachment to her. That is why he goes crazy when he realizes she is truly gone. He needs her to feel complete and without her he cannot truly be Joker. At least not totally.
As far as Stockholm syndrome goes I guess you could say they both experience it. Both feel like they have to have the other for one reason or another. Harley is prepared to go on without him. And joker is unable to leave her in blackgate and instead rescues her even after his “death”.
Weather you call this love is up to you but this is how I choose to see it. Who are we to say these two messed up individuals don’t call this love. Most of us are not insane like they are so we probably don’t completely understand it 🤷🏻♀️
Great video. I enjoyed this movie, but I also like montages more than anything else in cinema. I really like your point about the contrast between Waller and the Suicide Squad: Waller is ostensibly the good guy but working for her own agenda regardless of who gets hurt; the SS is ostensibly the bad guys but are capable of emotion and empathy even if it requires sacrifice.
7:50 and that's my main problem for the film the Joker genuinely loving someone he's a psychopath who only cares about his agenda Harley is suppose to be a tragic victim of abuse not have her love reprocriated IMO having joker actually care about someone (aside from batman) ruins the point of the joker and before anybody says this is Harley's POV the director said joker lives Harley so yeah they messed up the joker
Also the squad needed more time to flesh out their characters
And a consistent tone long story short I don't like this film
I think of it as the Joker having his favourite toy
Actually, the Joker has feelings for Harley, but he hates those feelings, he hates that he has them, he both loves and hates Harley at the same time.
(At least before the new 52, when he got, well... Really crazy and less fun)
But Paul Dani AND Mark Hamil have gone record to say that Joker does have feelings for Harley. There have been rare cases in the comics where Joker either admits those feelings or he does something genuinely nice to her in his own sick, twisted way.
I would have added a win for the scene just proceeding the one you show at 8:34, where the team initially walks up to Harley sitting on the car. I personally loved her reaction to noticing them walking up. She goes from looking sorrowful to suddenly sparking back up and being all crazy and excitable again. It was a subtle hint at the complexity of Harley Quinn, showing she isn't just a loon, but that there still is Harleen beneath it all and that she chooses at times to be this persona as it's easier than the pain sometimes.
I just watched this film for the first time today and I've got to say, I agree with you that it really wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be. Was it the greatest film ever? No. But most comic book films aren't (including MCU movies), and I say this as a lifelong comic book reader. There was a lot about this film that I think worked and I love that Waller was truly the real villain of this movie, and at times, she's more despicable than the actual villains we're told are the real bad guys.
The actors' performances are the best part of the film. You can tell they put their best effort in it. The issues are in the writing, directing, and editing. Had it not been rushed, the entire film would have been incredible. Regardless, I came out of the theater happy after I saw it. I still enjoy it now too.
One of the many things I love about your videos is how you toss in other tv and movie references. I especially enjoy when you call characters by other character names. Annalise not drinking for the meeting, priceless.
In a world of hating man and monsters this channel is the only way to protect our fandom.
Please do the Amazing Spiderman movies. They're really underrated and are my favorite superhero movies.
KingNazaru First one was great, second was... disappointing at best.
Austin Hendry No. Both were Amazing.
I don't know, might just be me but the second one just felt weak. They had three different villains, and barely gave enough breathing room for them (mainly Rhino). I personally just didn't enjoy the second one all that much, but I agree the first one is definitely "amazing".
I think the second one would be much better if it only focused on either Electro or Green Goblin.
Austin Hendry Rhino is supposed to be a minor villain. You can't do much with him since in all media he's just a big dumb brute. Electro was the main villain. And Green Goblin was developed into a villain. It was like Dark Knight. Just replace Electro with Joker, Green Goblin with 2 Face, and Rhino with Scarecrow.
KingNazaru Amazing Spiderman 2? Really? You should probably watch YMS's review of it.
I personally loved this movie. I can't believe I am one of the only ones who loves it
7:49 That's the problem though. The Joker's not supposed to love Harley back. In the animated series, he never did. He always only ever saw her as a tool that can be used for his own use. And, even knowing that, Harley still let him take advantage of her, because that's how hopelessly in love with him she is. And this movie did not accurately portray that aspect of their relationship (that is, to say, the *core* of their relationship) at all.
Yeah, I really did not like this movie at all. Couldn't finish it. But I do actually love how this channel takes even the most hated movies and gives credit where credit is due. For me the overall movie remains shit. But smaller parts, such as the neon aesthetic, the soundtrack, Margot Robbie's portrayal of Harley Quinn, all those things I am reminded to show appreciation for :)
Emma Echidna trying giving it a shot.
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I love the score. Its brilliant music. Every cloud has a ray of sunshine I think.
Check out assault on Arkham. I thought they did team x a lot better there. I love DC animation, their theater movies need work. But with aqualman and Shazam I feel they’re going in the right direction. If they did a nightwing movie and did it true to character with the constant joking and poking fun at bad guys I think it would do well. I personally don’t like Bruce Wayne. Think he’s a jerk. (Sorry for any bad English/ misspellings. Bad migraines cause typing to be difficult)
THANK YOU SO MUCH
*Grabs popcorn
Good luck with this one, you are gonna need it
Vaslui he doesn't.
One thing I absolutely love about this movie is that they almost make the villains feel like tired, run down villains that know that they are doing wrong, but don’t care cuz it’s the life they chose to live. It’s really a movie about acceptance, with an interesting and unique theme.
2:02 imagine how strong u have to be to knock someone out with one punch under water
You forgot that there is still missing footage from the movie
Casey Tatum I think they mean that there is missing footage from the final film that makes it a cohesive film. You still get that feeling in the Ultimate Cut
Genie Of the Lamp How much you wanna bet next up is Suicide Squad Extended Cut Ultimate Edition
You chose to watch this movie & then the slightly extended version back to back? What happened, we need some context ....
I don't believe that something can be "objectivly good/bad" in the first place...
Marc Magma why not?
karl jonson all entertainment is down to personal preference. there are rules and mechanics in film making which could be considered to be objective, but whether or not the film is good or bad is entirely up to you. no amount of awards or imdb ratings should change whether or not you enjoyed a movie. personal preference and so on and so on :)
Ultra Golden Bacon Exactly. I couldn't have said it better.
in terms of rules and mechanics of film making there was somethings wrong with this movie
you're 100% right. "good" is a completely subjective term. I wasn't even allowed to state "I will make it work 'good'" (That sentence is correct in my language) in my uhm... what's it called lol... pre-job documentation of what I was going to do?
Like, my teacher would ask "what is good? What does it mean? When is it good? I have no clue"
Know what I mean? Gosh, I'm failing @ language rn.
rip to jared leto who went from main antagonist in a dark violent action thriller to have his scenes cut to a cameo in a tonally jarring studio mandated deadpool-esque comedy
i've always liked this movie and i'm so glad someone finally put it into words why it IS a good movie!
Exactly. I don't care whether the movie had a corrupted structure. I *enjoyed* myself in the cinema.
"enjoyed myself"
now I get it Margot Robbie in shorts is what you talking about huh you know what I mean
I am really glad I subscribed
same
Bolo Santosi same
+clorox bleach HI DADDY!!!
Bolo Santosi me too. I have along list of movies I wait them to do.
I am too!
I thought it was too messy with the introductions of all these different characters.. :/ I would have enjoyed a Harley and Joker focussed movie a lot more I guess.. :/ But probably because I preferred Nicholson over Ledger which already pisses the majority off. I really enjoyed this take on the Joker by Leto, he was great and he's on his way to get over my love for Nicholson if they play it right and let him play the Joker again, despite all the hate he got. I really loved his interpretation and the way he just presented HIS Joker.
Film Theory on the joker, Joker may have been Robin which would explain the lack of past throughout the film
When there's already a ton of videos made criticising Suicide Squad and how crap it was (and are serious videos), when one video is made to highlight SS's good points (more or less played for laughs), people decided to bring the movie's criticism here anyway. :/
+Speedstar235 First of all it's hard to call it a movie. Secondly and most importantly people do that so they can get better films, other than this shit.
Praveen Sharma People already made their voice heard through numerous videos since the movie came out on why its shit. Why bring that here on this video as if nobody think its shit?
+Speedstar235 Eh man leave it. We both shouldn't feel like fighting.
See ya.
Agreed, ciao!
+Speedstar235 Videos criticising Suicide Squad also get people who defend the film showing up, so why wouldn't people criticising the film show up to videos praising it?
They cut off Bohemian Rhapsody 0/10
K den I’ve never seen a more white comment
K den that song is severely overrated.
Pagman it may be overrated to some but it’s got a giant piece of my heart. But even without the rose colored glasses I have two things to say. That Roger Taylor High note though, and that Brian May guitar solo.
Nathan Hayes I can’t really argue with either of those. I still find it to be an excellent song,just one that garnered much more attention then I feel like it would have deserved.
I really loved the new take on Harley and Joker's relationship. He's literally willing to move Heaven and Earth to get her back. And Jared Leto really nails the performance while putting his own spin on the character. That's why I was so disappointed the entire Birds of Prey premise centers around her breaking up with him and all of Gotham coming at her for revenge for all the sh*t she did to them while under Mr. J's protection.
I loved this movie, and I can't understand why everyone I talk to about it say they hated it. Birds of Prey is okay, but it lacks all of the story and character development that this one has. Also the pacing is terrible due to the fact that Harley is narrating. I could not tell you what sequence the events happen in due to all the flashbacks and cut scenes.
Harley is insane. Her story is told through HER eyes. She believes the joker loves her, so that is how SHE is telling the story. The state of her messed up psychi is demonstrated perfectly when she starts sing a diamond is a girl's best friend after Black mask slaps her. Sorry if this came off as mean, I was just trying to explain why their relationship is more romanticized than other iterations.
@@bone_and_butterflies7224 Friend, you're absolutely wrong about Birds of Prey. The entire premise of the movie is Harley and Joker breaking up and the fact that Harley no longer has Joker's protection. She is not under any delusion that he loves her, quite the contrary. And I actually liked the pairing in Suicide Squad which was NOT told from Harley's POV.
@@SilverSpoonRiche first, I've seen birds of prey, that's literally where I pulled an example of Harley perceiving the world not as it is. Also when I said her story is told through her eyes, I meant when she is talking about her relationship during suicide squad. I'm sorry, I could have explained that better without implying that Harley is narrating.
@@bone_and_butterflies7224 Oh YES I do understand now what you mean. I misinterpreted your text.
I don't think the pacing of BoP was terrible. It made sense to me and didn't seem confusing at all
Me: Ew he's so positive! I hate positivity!
Me: *keeps watching, subscribes, watches like, every video*
In my notifications it said
"Everything great about suicide!" I was like 😮😐😑
I liked this movie when I watched it, and was kind of confused by all the hate it got. I can see why it wouldn't appeal to everyone, but I certainly didn't think it was bad enough to get THAT much hate. Oh well, it was a fun movie to me and I'm sticking to my opinion!
finpin oh cmon the plot itself is stupid n too early to be made in DCEU n alot of things fidnt make sense. it shows how much this was compromised between yhe studio n director
missStockholm I can see that. Still, I enjoyed it. I guess I'm easy to please or something?
finpin I enjoyed it too. It was by far not that the best movie but I liked it
I think it was a bit of a guilty pleasure for me. Sure the plot was boarderline atrocious but just seeing all this comic characters on he big screen did it for me. In my opinion it's a bit of fan service, but you know what, I'll take that
I just found your channel after being subscribed to EWW for years and it is a nice breath of fresh air. Love the content!
I didn’t hate Jared Leto’s Joker
Alaskan Savage I thought he did ok I was certainly disturbed by joker
I didn't like the "human" feeling of this joker. He just seems like a Gangster who painted himself white and dyed his hair green. As you said he might be feeling suicidal over Harley... SUICIDAL ! OVER HARLEY ?
What I always loved about the joker is that he seems to be the only character who knows he's in a comic book, so he doesn't give a shit about life or any consequences since it'll all be resolved by the end of the story.
he was. its in a novelization of the movie they explain he was getting ready to kill himself. she'd been gone for a while and he missed her.
Joker has never been as crazy about Harley as she is about him. He loves her, don't get me wrong. Her crazy matches his in a way that both clown criminals love. But Joker loves himself and his fight against Batman more than Harley Quinn. Harley has left for months, returned, and Joker didn't even realize that she was missing, except maybe noticing Bud and Lou were getting crankier. I'm sure you've seen and/or read Mad Love, so you know that their relationship isn't exactly kosher.
I will always say that Joker loves Harley, but he lovers her like one would love a car or a gun. They are important and need to be taken care of if one wants the objects to work properly, but one can easily replace either of those objects, just like Joker believes that he can replace Harley. He's the JOKER. The one. The only. He fights Batman, and he is complete. Harley Quinn is just an added bonus.
Of course, Harley's perception of their relationship is completely different, but that much is obvious even when watching this movie. So the novelization saying that Joker was suicidal because he missed Harley...maybe if it was Quinn missing Joker, but not the other way around.
DisneyLover258 i understand that. im suggesting their switching up the story. and im not sure if you are saying im mistaken about the novelization or not, but that really is something that happens in the novel. just like joker having complicated feelings towards Harley which he likes to pretend don't exist
DisneyLover258 Unless this incarnation views Harley as the favorite toy someone took away from him👀
Albert Moisan. Joker? A gangster? Who painted himself? You mean Jack Nicholson?
"Some might want to get him a red shirt"
Cameron Sullins, while I saw this comment the video was at this specific part. Perfect timing
He's gonna die. XD
FREDDDDDDDDDY KRUGER
I loved El diablo I just wish there was more of him. I want a whole movie with guy and Idk if a second suicide squad will come out but I hope he is brought back some how honestly.
This movie introduced me to Twenty One Pilots I can't complain about it
I must say, some of your wins are just as weird as sins.
I love the analysis at the end of the movie. It's different and really is unique and justifies every point you made in this video. 10/10
12:11 That's a cop-out, Waller selected the Squad as the people most fit to protect humanity against evil gods BEFORE Enchantress broke out.
Knowing that the Diablo self-sacrifice wasn't originally planned but probably a WB mandate is proof that Warner execs didn't know wtf they were doing.
I don't care what people say about suicide squad I really enjoyed this movie.
You and cinamasins should make a debate video.
Lol that wouldn't be fair to this guy. The guys at cinemasins would eat him alive.
I beg to differ. Everything CinemaSins says would get immediately counteracted by CinemaWins, not to mention he does that long summary at the end of the video, so... massive counteraction xD
Who would win really comes down to what movie it is and wether the movie has more sins or wins
RUBIX3 nah, CinemaSins dudes are literally just smarter
CinemaSins are smart in that they are probably good at making you think you've lost an argument, but their critiques are so inconsistent jumping from real critiques that are sometimes valid and sometimes purely false, to nitpicks that are there just for jokes, to intentional mistakes, I think someone like this guy who seems to have a genuine interest in showing the good parts of films as opposed to cinemasins who are trying to maximize their viewership and income and have become the very thing they allegedly started CinemaSins for to begin with, would not have a big problem debating them at all.
The shot of the bullets raining on Deadshot was ripped straight from his Secret Six cover which I thought was effin awesome
8:18
Was the guy behind Joker dressed up as Hollow from Miss Peregrine's?