That woukd be the only use for a impact driver, I mean imagine snapping a bolt off a engine mount because there to much torque, but I’m saying that that drill does have a clutch like a impact driver too
@@haretauwhare5959the clutch on an impact and drill are designed to do opposite things. An impact uses it to increase torque. A drill, reduce torque. I guess I only use impacts to remove rusty bolts that drills just stall. Im surprised this is like controversial news. Yes drills can drive screws.
@@deandufresne3671 If you guys really want to get technical. A drill has 2-3 options depending on the model. But I will talk about the main brushless drill model I purchased from Ryobi. It can do Hammer, Drill, and Torque by clutch. A impact only has the Hammer feature. Any questions?
It's called marketing. You can try to sell 2 separately for say $120 a piece for a 85% profit, or you can both for $200 for sure for a 70% profit. One is riskier than the other, but one incentives sales.
For woodwork I suppose I can agree with you but in my line of work where I’m running fasteners through metal and concrete… I need my impact more than my drill
I’m happy to own both, they really are different tools if you know what their strengths and weaknesses are, but they both can do some similar tasks so it’s really down to preference.
@@scottpollock1714I came across this dudes videos on Instagram a few months back and this is exactly how he was in every single comment section. He’s definitely a keyboard warrior who attacks anyone who doesn’t automatically agree with him. It’s pretty sad and pathetic. I truly wonder what he does with all the tools he buys considering he definitely doesn’t use them for building a single thing.
If you can only have one buy a drill. It’s the far more versatile tool. An impact is a quality of life tool, much lighter and easier to use over a full workday. Also if you work with nuts and bolts on a regular basis an impact is more controllable and capable of delivering higher torque for fastening and loosening. With woodworking it’s unlikely the impact will ever be faster or more effective than a drill. Just lighter.
One of the Biggest Difference is that the Impact wont Strip the Screw when driving them in as much as a Drill will but the Drill can be faster inmost instances
I use both. But I primarily use an impact driver because its more compact, lighter, and usually faster than driving wood screws with a drill. Also to adapt the drill chuck to a driver makes the drill way to long to be useful. It’s all personal preference.
I like the drill when screwing some stuff because to me it’s quicker, like metal roofing and metal siding, I set the clutch and just drive, don’t have to worry about over or under driving. The impact is slower in my opinion because it has to impact the screw in instead of just turning it, but they both work good
They’re great for automotive too. If you set your clutch up to 1 - 3, you can guarantee “hand tight” torque. Where as impact varies on finger control, which is inaccurate and not reproducible.
You have a great point. Impact is still superior in my opinion. An impact does a drills job better, than a drill can do an impacts job. At least in my limited experience.
My impact driver broke a long time ago and I switched to my drill. If I need an impact driver I just grab my regular impact instead. I’ll probably never buy another driver just because I personally don’t have much of a need for one. I may one day but until then, what I have works flawlessly for me.
Home - drill driver Work truck - impact driver and hammer drill I almost never grab the hammer drill unless using drill bits, mostly because of the size and weight compared to the impact driver. But for home use, my drill driver handles pretty much everything I need it to do in the house.
If you are not a finish Carpenter, then you don't use the clutch on a hammer drill. The trades either open a hole in concrete or something else and then use an impact driver that is lighter and has a bit for the specific screw you're using. If it's not opening a hole in concrete or using a holesaw, an impact does it just fine.
Milwaukee drills are no joke some can snap wrist owt of socket if u are not careful.even if u think your super strong. There's always that one drill n . moment.
@@JuanHernandez-ov8wv When doing something serious at full torque settings, I always chuck my drill up against my leg so if it snags and twists it's not breaking my wrist lol.
It because it weighs 2x as much and if you work all day that matters as a matter of fact I use makita because it’s smaller and affordable. I’ve got time to change batteries on water breaks if needed but I need water more than my makita need’s batteries and yes I use the impact it also fits in a lot of places a chuck drill won’t not to mention tapping screws are meant to be driven with a impact driver and bit.
@@letswalkinthewoods1462 Let’s not get too ahead of ourselves, you seem to have the opposite issue of most people where you are too dumb to comprehend what the Impact is good for
Many years ago, back in Germany I used to do garage doors, window shutters, anti burglar systems and the drill was the only tool, no impact And you are a hundred percent right it worked .
The newest generation of Milwaukee drills, have an anti kick back feature. If you are this driving pan heads or screws. The impact is the way to go. If you have to drill and drive, the drill is the way to go. Or keep a drill for drilling and impact for driving
I love using the clutch on my drill, usually prevents me from stripping out the plastic panels in all these new vehicles and small screws in other stuff. I hear from the other guys at work, "Just use the impact trigger properly and it won't strip out!" And these are the same guys who cross-thread bolts and let the next guy worry about it, SMH. 🐺🔧
Impact->easier to change bits for a faster environment. But anywhere that you are doing finish work or work that requires delicate power, the clutch of the drill will be your better friend.
He's right. I can do a multitude or tasks with my m12. Delicate tasks like installing components onto computers and network serves then use it for carpentry and sending screws into 2x4s.
Impacts are smaller and easier to use especially when changing bits i only youse my drill when im using bits that dont fit in impacts or i need the hammer function or using hole saws. They make impacts for a reason.
Faster and will use up less battery, the impacts will wate tons of energy as noise and heat. Did drywall with a buddy one day, he had an array of batterys with a 4 bay charging station 😅 while i swapped my 2.0Ah once all day. It was a half day job, but he was having to swap batteries before every hour while mine would last about 2 hours To be fair, its lighter and it is easier on wrist torque and will never scare you 😅 not for me though
When you work with nuts and bolts rather than screws and drill bits, the impact is a far superior tool. A drill won’t break a bolt loose. I will stick with my impact tools.
Drill is perfect to ensure you don't overdrive and ruin a piece you're working on. Impact driver is good to tighten metal to metal or budge a lag that isn't moving.
The difference is weight and convenience. Impacts are inherently lighter and more compact. The quick attach is convenient and doesn’t rely on additional adapters to function. The drill is a “stronger” tool but the impact is King.
If it is breaking your wrist you are a complete puzzy. Try getting out and working with your hands once in awhile. My 80 year old mom can use a dang drill and not cry about her wrists. Problem with society these days.
@@vljYWOK well how much time are we talking cos a drill will be faster 9 out of ten times maybe more. And that is just screws. If you are drilling holes there is no way an impact is faster
@@82acresfarm its not just how fast the tool is, its also how much setup is required to get a drill on it and the weight of the tool. I would love to see a guy up a ladder reaching your hand out to maximum extension sideways and drive in a non pre drilled 3" #10 into something horizontally, or vertically up. Another one would be a 1/4 lag into a predrilled hole in the same condition. purist drill guys on the crews I've been on spend more time moving ladders than using the drill. Mind you, I'm not new construction, I'm remodeling. This means that I'm stabilizing the sins of the past while building a strong addition and I don't have the luxury of always having scaffolding or being able to be in the prefect stance and user and tool alignment to get the job done. Same reason I use mostly 12 volt tools and not 18 volt. the lightness of the tool means I'm not repositioning nearly as often, I set my ladder and can get the work done for everywhere my arms can reach instead of the drill purists being about half that. now imagine setting up ladders on steep and variable cross slops constantly, to get 12 feet across, I need 2 setups, drill guys end up with 3 or maybe even 4 if they cant use the tool off handed. Like I said, neither of us is wrong, but I personally own 2 12volt impact drivers, 1 18 volt imact wrench with adapter to just about anything including a drill if needed (for the big stuff on industrial remodel jobs). 1 12v drill/driver, 1 18v right angle drill, and 1 nasty big 18v hammer drill. all the 12 volt stuff gets the most use as I am typically doing house remodeling, and typically I have 2 of the 3 up the ladder with me at the same time 50/50 if its double impact or one drill one imact. I get it, yall love your drills, thats fine. I did that crap for the first 10 years of building, then I got my first impact 20 years ago, and while slower, I get more done at a constant gait, tortoise and the hare.
@@vljYWOKfinally a real builder. Impacts are way more user friendly on the job than a drill. Especially if you need to change bits often like in remodels or if like you said, you work in tight spaces and up on ladders where weight is a serious concern.
I have 4 go-to tools, all Milwaukee. M12 compact drill for the light stuff. M18 full-size drill for the heavy work. M18 Surge Impact for heavier driving work, and the "Installation" driver for most day-to-day tasks.
I agree the impact is just smaller and lighter… so it betters for being on my belt all day. Also as a commercial electrician the impact is better for machine screws and self tapping screws. 🤷🏼♂️
I been in the carpentry business since I was 14 and I have been saying this since I was 17.. my impacts just collect dust until I’m working on a vehicle
Impacts are for being roughed up. Drills are for more delicate work. Try driving 50 bolts in a row with a drill vs an impact. The drill is liable to burn out, not have enough power, or need an extension for the bit which adds more failure points and makes it a bulkier tool that doesn't fit in as many places. An impact is extremely versatile because of their quick change holders, compactness, and power. I often use my impact for bolts/construction screws/basic drilling (especially paddle bits), and the drill for anything else
@@ToolswithSoAlz what size are you referring to? I'm frequently driving 4" timberlock bolts to fasten lvl's and framing lumber and my Milwaukee impact outperforms my Milwaukee drill and is far easier to get into tight spaces
Impact is good to reduce fatigue due to lighter weight, smaller profile, easier on wrist. But the driller/drivers nowadays are more versatile I agree………. But dont go around saying impact this and impact that. Not all impacts are equal. For example…. An m12 fuel impact as an electrician is too perfect. An m12 doesnt take nearly as much torque to engage the hydraulics as an m18. Because of the m12… i can use powertools on more things and speed up work because I can use my m12 on things that u cant use an m18+ on.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼hats off to this man. He’s right. I have this argument daily with apprentices. Impact drivers are for specific things. If you use your tools for what they are intended and use them properly you won’t be at risk of injury or burnout of tools. Keep doing this content.
Only reas9n impact is good is for the weight. If all your doing is driving a few average length screws its better. But if youre doing a multitude of tasks the drill is superior in every way
Try hanging that drill on your toolbelt all day while climbing up and down ladders OR driving that 4" deck screw without it being pre-set while leaning over all day. The impact wins every time.
He's definitely got a point but it also depends on the job you are using the tools for! I'd love to be able to use 1 tool for everything but i install kitchen appliances & I need a light weight, low power draining, trigger sensitive impact driver for small screws all day long & a drill that can drill through block & do core holes through wood & chip board & share a high power battery with my jigsaw for occasional hob cutouts & extractor cuts... Using a heavy drill for 1 job sounds like a dream come true but the bag weight & operating weight & setting changing would render my right hand disabled within 6 months.
I use a m12s a lot for mechanic work, cars and lawnmower the brand new drill in speed one will pull off anything on a small engine, lawnmower ect and not break bits unlike a 1/4 impact, drills definitely take over in many cases, I’m 18 and you sir have taught me that. On a side note obviously impact are more fit for high torque applications But I pulled a starter off a 5.3 with a m12 drill, that’s just damn impressive.
Impacts are good for small fasteners and applying shock to certain stuck bolts or screws. But yes running fresh screws into material especially wood, the drill is better to use.
Fun fact. In Germany literally noone uses Impact drivers for Woodwork. We use Impact guns! But Just for metalworking, worked with them a lot, but i would never think about using them for wood lol. Impact drivers aren't really a thing here, and i think im speaking for almost all of Europe xD
@@ToolswithSoAlzThat's funny, gotta say we got lots of really really good craftmen, but we have the equal amount of soft "hobby handymen" 😂😂 Thought i gotta say, me personally im a car technician and besides removing Panels i mainly use ratches or pneumatic tools xD
This man is absolutly correct. The drill is a multi pourpous tool, I love my impacts but they do have a place in the tool box just like any other tool. Personally I dont drill/screw into wood much, and taking machine screw and smaller bolts out of semi truck frames and such makes the impact my go to, but putting up TV wall mounts I will take the drill anyday since the impact typically just snaps the lags.
It’s not the torque when the screw is fully fastened but the fact that you have to counter the torque with your wrist. The impact drivers are a pain in the ass to listen too but easier to hold on to.
Impacts weigh less and have quick release. Can see how they are faster for driving heavy duty coach bolts but 99% of the time an impact is more convenient and ergonomic
i don't like them, not because i hurt my wrist using it, but because i ended up hurting my whole shoulder when the head snapped off the tool and wrapped around my hand.
Both are good for their design. If someone is scared of using a tiny drill because it will break a wrist, they need some excercises irrelevant to the clutch.
Carpenter here- sometimes even my impact is too big to get into where i need to throw fasteners 😂 let alone a damn hammer drill. Both have their place, but for fastening on a jobsite, i gotta say the impact is the superior tool due to the maneuverability
PSA CHECK YOUR LIBRARY!!! My local library has a “library of things” where you can borrow a power drill-super useful if you don’t use drills often and don’t want to spend $100 on one.
I use a 1/4 impact because for what I do it works the best. If I was a carpenter I would use the drill. Only time I use the drill is for stuck bolts and anti tip stove brackets. Yes sir are correct. Other than sheet metal impacts are useful for taking out fasteners that were already there.
I work on cars and have both and the impact driver is better for my line of work.. I use them for the shields under the cars, screws in rotars and stuff like that and the drill just can't compete with the driver
Yup. You figured it out. Every carpenter, tradesman and builder has it all wrong but you were too smart for them!! Your genius is only exceeded by your humility!! You had to go and tell the entire world they they were wrong and you were right.
I use impact 80 percent of the time, drill i use for fastening , drilling pilot holes and using a wire wheel to clean motor shafts for motor replacement (electric motors)
I use both because they're different tools for different jobs. In the past everyone used combi drills as drivers and there's a good reason why they switched to using impact drivers but that being said an impact driver can't replace a combi drill. Different tools for different jobs.
Now hold on one second now both worth great. My opinion on it is Impact does give u more torque and it makes driving screws in a lot tougher yet more quality efficient Now the other one is just handy to have because it’s a purpose to like u said
I say if its breaking your wrist, let your man do the work
As a mechanic, drills are for drilling, and impacts are for fasteners.
That woukd be the only use for a impact driver, I mean imagine snapping a bolt off a engine mount because there to much torque, but I’m saying that that drill does have a clutch like a impact driver too
Impacts are great at removing fasteners. Drills are great for putting fasteners in.
When you try to draw mechanics into the argument and so far fail! 😳😂😂😂🤦 but here I'm with you 99.9%
@@haretauwhare5959the clutch on an impact and drill are designed to do opposite things. An impact uses it to increase torque. A drill, reduce torque. I guess I only use impacts to remove rusty bolts that drills just stall. Im surprised this is like controversial news. Yes drills can drive screws.
@@deandufresne3671 If you guys really want to get technical. A drill has 2-3 options depending on the model. But I will talk about the main brushless drill model I purchased from Ryobi. It can do Hammer, Drill, and Torque by clutch.
A impact only has the Hammer feature. Any questions?
There's a reason that they typically come in a kit together.
Good point
It's called marketing. You can try to sell 2 separately for say $120 a piece for a 85% profit, or you can both for $200 for sure for a 70% profit. One is riskier than the other, but one incentives sales.
@@tobybigham4196 Strange, that particular marketing has a lot of utility for most people.
@despraterado588 Helps if you kids know what you're talking about before offering up an opinion
@@despraterado588 ma'am a drill is called a drill driver because it drives. Let it sink in.
The impact driver usually comes with the drill. One is not better than the other. They're different tools with different applications.
The drill is for drilling holes and running rotary brushes and sanding discs. The impact is for fasteners.
For woodwork I suppose I can agree with you but in my line of work where I’m running fasteners through metal and concrete… I need my impact more than my drill
I’m happy to own both, they really are different tools if you know what their strengths and weaknesses are, but they both can do some similar tasks so it’s really down to preference.
Yep, pull out the impact for the hd stuff imo
I wanna see someone frame heavy metal with a hammer drill 🤣🤣 🤡
@fernyisable5 Princess if you're not smart enough to understand the video then don't advertise it here. Maybe get your husband to explain it to you.
@@scottpollock1714I came across this dudes videos on Instagram a few months back and this is exactly how he was in every single comment section. He’s definitely a keyboard warrior who attacks anyone who doesn’t automatically agree with him. It’s pretty sad and pathetic. I truly wonder what he does with all the tools he buys considering he definitely doesn’t use them for building a single thing.
Dudes really like “bruh drills so much better” I say they have their purposes and situations
I always have both simply because one is not superior to the other. They excel at at different levels in each job but are interchangeable if necessary
If you can only have one buy a drill. It’s the far more versatile tool. An impact is a quality of life tool, much lighter and easier to use over a full workday. Also if you work with nuts and bolts on a regular basis an impact is more controllable and capable of delivering higher torque for fastening and loosening. With woodworking it’s unlikely the impact will ever be faster or more effective than a drill. Just lighter.
One of the Biggest Difference is that the Impact wont Strip the Screw when driving them in as much as a Drill will but the Drill can be faster inmost instances
I use both. But I primarily use an impact driver because its more compact, lighter, and usually faster than driving wood screws with a drill. Also to adapt the drill chuck to a driver makes the drill way to long to be useful. It’s all personal preference.
I like the drill when screwing some stuff because to me it’s quicker, like metal roofing and metal siding, I set the clutch and just drive, don’t have to worry about over or under driving. The impact is slower in my opinion because it has to impact the screw in instead of just turning it, but they both work good
Impacts are also less likely to strip Phillips screws.
@@Nate-ld7zj the new gen 4 m18 impact has a new metal roof setting on the impact. It stops when it's done even if u don't let the trigger go
They’re great for automotive too. If you set your clutch up to 1 - 3, you can guarantee “hand tight” torque. Where as impact varies on finger control, which is inaccurate and not reproducible.
Depends on the impact. Mine can detect when the fastener it tight and stop turning.
@Fobes most of them can
Then learn to have decent “finger control” 🤯
You have a great point. Impact is still superior in my opinion. An impact does a drills job better, than a drill can do an impacts job. At least in my limited experience.
My impact driver broke a long time ago and I switched to my drill. If I need an impact driver I just grab my regular impact instead. I’ll probably never buy another driver just because I personally don’t have much of a need for one. I may one day but until then, what I have works flawlessly for me.
Home - drill driver
Work truck - impact driver and hammer drill
I almost never grab the hammer drill unless using drill bits, mostly because of the size and weight compared to the impact driver. But for home use, my drill driver handles pretty much everything I need it to do in the house.
If you are not a finish Carpenter, then you don't use the clutch on a hammer drill. The trades either open a hole in concrete or something else and then use an impact driver that is lighter and has a bit for the specific screw you're using. If it's not opening a hole in concrete or using a holesaw, an impact does it just fine.
If they're breaking your wrist... you got soft hands boi
Yes sir
Or, you know, just set the torque lower than your arm strength.
Kinda what I was thinking. Lol
Milwaukee drills are no joke some can snap wrist owt of socket if u are not careful.even if u think your super strong. There's always that one drill n . moment.
@@JuanHernandez-ov8wv When doing something serious at full torque settings, I always chuck my drill up against my leg so if it snags and twists it's not breaking my wrist lol.
As a tradesmen most of the people I work around are competent, skilled workers and these sort of questions don’t even need explaining.
Im a MILWAUKEE GUY. BUT GOT TO TRY FLEX BRAND. HEARD GREAT THINGS
It because it weighs 2x as much and if you work all day that matters as a matter of fact I use makita because it’s smaller and affordable. I’ve got time to change batteries on water breaks if needed but I need water more than my makita need’s batteries and yes I use the impact it also fits in a lot of places a chuck drill won’t not to mention tapping screws are meant to be driven with a impact driver and bit.
Being saying this for years, impact drivers were a gimmick that all the Millennials fell for
@@letswalkinthewoods1462 Let’s not get too ahead of ourselves, you seem to have the opposite issue of most people where you are too dumb to comprehend what the Impact is good for
I use both, but the Impact Driver has many advantages, including a smaller footprint which helps in tight corners.
I just like impact because it's easier to carry and better for tight spots and I don't drive many screws that over 3 inches that much
Ah, but if I could only have one, the impact can drive screws, the drill cannot drive bolts.
You don't know what you're doing
I buy whatever the fu ck I want with my money😂
That’s right you can’t be closer to the truth
Best comment ever 😂
Many years ago, back in Germany I used to do garage doors, window shutters, anti burglar systems and the drill was the only tool, no impact And you are a hundred percent right it worked .
Thank you for sharing your experience
i prefer my impact driver just cause its lighter and smaller in size for tight spots
bingo, don't need the weight for hvac, have a chuck bit for non impact bits
It surprises me how many didn't know this?
Me too
My go to. Use the clutch.
The newest generation of Milwaukee drills, have an anti kick back feature. If you are this driving pan heads or screws. The impact is the way to go. If you have to drill and drive, the drill is the way to go. Or keep a drill for drilling and impact for driving
Love the Milwaukee Fuel impact driver! ❤
Oh I use my DeWalt with a clutch all the time for airplane s***. Makes putting floorboards down a lot easier
Impacts are more compact. It's not about drilling in an open shop on a flat plane. Try crammed in a cramhole at an angle... impact wins every time.
The impact is for loosining stuck bolts
I love using the clutch on my drill, usually prevents me from stripping out the plastic panels in all these new vehicles and small screws in other stuff.
I hear from the other guys at work, "Just use the impact trigger properly and it won't strip out!" And these are the same guys who cross-thread bolts and let the next guy worry about it, SMH. 🐺🔧
Professionism is a skill that can't be taught
I hate impacts, I only use a drill now, I don’t even own an impact anymore..
Impact->easier to change bits for a faster environment. But anywhere that you are doing finish work or work that requires delicate power, the clutch of the drill will be your better friend.
You aren’t the first person to figure out the clutch on a drill, though you sound very impressed with yourself for doing so.
Ma'am at what point do you believe you weren't able to understand the video? The first word or the first sentence?
Impacts are lighter, more compact and allow for faster bit changes. It’s about productivity. That’s why they sell them together in kits.
If that's what you need to tell yourself
Let the next guy be the one to strip out the screw/hole
He's right. I can do a multitude or tasks with my m12. Delicate tasks like installing components onto computers and network serves then use it for carpentry and sending screws into 2x4s.
Thank you
Impacts are smaller and easier to use especially when changing bits i only youse my drill when im using bits that dont fit in impacts or i need the hammer function or using hole saws. They make impacts for a reason.
bud you completely changed my view on this
Thank you
Faster and will use up less battery, the impacts will wate tons of energy as noise and heat.
Did drywall with a buddy one day, he had an array of batterys with a 4 bay charging station 😅 while i swapped my 2.0Ah once all day. It was a half day job, but he was having to swap batteries before every hour while mine would last about 2 hours
To be fair, its lighter and it is easier on wrist torque and will never scare you 😅 not for me though
When you work with nuts and bolts rather than screws and drill bits, the impact is a far superior tool. A drill won’t break a bolt loose. I will stick with my impact tools.
Drill is perfect to ensure you don't overdrive and ruin a piece you're working on. Impact driver is good to tighten metal to metal or budge a lag that isn't moving.
Impact driver is the better tool for loosening tight fixings...
Yup
The difference is weight and convenience. Impacts are inherently lighter and more compact. The quick attach is convenient and doesn’t rely on additional adapters to function. The drill is a “stronger” tool but the impact is King.
Your absolutely right I rarely use the impact because the drill driver puts screws in faster and quieter.
Exactly
New milwaukee drill comes with autostop so it doesnt break your wrist👍🏼
If it is breaking your wrist you are a complete puzzy. Try getting out and working with your hands once in awhile. My 80 year old mom can use a dang drill and not cry about her wrists. Problem with society these days.
If I had to choose only one, drill all day.
Exactly
Funny, I would go impact all day. Neither of us is wrong, just get the work done in a timely manner and it don't matter.
@@vljYWOK well how much time are we talking cos a drill will be faster 9 out of ten times maybe more. And that is just screws. If you are drilling holes there is no way an impact is faster
@@82acresfarm its not just how fast the tool is, its also how much setup is required to get a drill on it and the weight of the tool. I would love to see a guy up a ladder reaching your hand out to maximum extension sideways and drive in a non pre drilled 3" #10 into something horizontally, or vertically up. Another one would be a 1/4 lag into a predrilled hole in the same condition. purist drill guys on the crews I've been on spend more time moving ladders than using the drill. Mind you, I'm not new construction, I'm remodeling. This means that I'm stabilizing the sins of the past while building a strong addition and I don't have the luxury of always having scaffolding or being able to be in the prefect stance and user and tool alignment to get the job done. Same reason I use mostly 12 volt tools and not 18 volt. the lightness of the tool means I'm not repositioning nearly as often, I set my ladder and can get the work done for everywhere my arms can reach instead of the drill purists being about half that. now imagine setting up ladders on steep and variable cross slops constantly, to get 12 feet across, I need 2 setups, drill guys end up with 3 or maybe even 4 if they cant use the tool off handed.
Like I said, neither of us is wrong, but I personally own 2 12volt impact drivers, 1 18 volt imact wrench with adapter to just about anything including a drill if needed (for the big stuff on industrial remodel jobs). 1 12v drill/driver, 1 18v right angle drill, and 1 nasty big 18v hammer drill. all the 12 volt stuff gets the most use as I am typically doing house remodeling, and typically I have 2 of the 3 up the ladder with me at the same time 50/50 if its double impact or one drill one imact.
I get it, yall love your drills, thats fine. I did that crap for the first 10 years of building, then I got my first impact 20 years ago, and while slower, I get more done at a constant gait, tortoise and the hare.
@@vljYWOKfinally a real builder. Impacts are way more user friendly on the job than a drill. Especially if you need to change bits often like in remodels or if like you said, you work in tight spaces and up on ladders where weight is a serious concern.
I am always confused by people use impact driver, I am with you, I did not use an impact driver for years. You make so much sense!!
Yes sir
I have 4 go-to tools, all Milwaukee. M12 compact drill for the light stuff. M18 full-size drill for the heavy work. M18 Surge Impact for heavier driving work, and the "Installation" driver for most day-to-day tasks.
Perfect
I use my clutch all the time. I default to the impact more than I should tbh but I definitely know how to use the drill to it's full potential
I like it
I agree the impact is just smaller and lighter… so it betters for being on my belt all day. Also as a commercial electrician the impact is better for machine screws and self tapping screws. 🤷🏼♂️
I been in the carpentry business since I was 14 and I have been saying this since I was 17.. my impacts just collect dust until I’m working on a vehicle
Impacts are for being roughed up. Drills are for more delicate work. Try driving 50 bolts in a row with a drill vs an impact. The drill is liable to burn out, not have enough power, or need an extension for the bit which adds more failure points and makes it a bulkier tool that doesn't fit in as many places.
An impact is extremely versatile because of their quick change holders, compactness, and power.
I often use my impact for bolts/construction screws/basic drilling (especially paddle bits), and the drill for anything else
If the lag is this size the impact won't make it past 3 but this isn't much of a challenge for the drill
@@ToolswithSoAlz what size are you referring to? I'm frequently driving 4" timberlock bolts to fasten lvl's and framing lumber and my Milwaukee impact outperforms my Milwaukee drill and is far easier to get into tight spaces
Impacts are cool for tight spots
What’s the point of buying tools if you can’t buy more of them 😂
The people that think the impact driver is superior to the drill should not be buying tools
Only a rich man can afford cheap tools. 🤪😂😂
I don't think anybody is arguing that an impact driver is a superior tool, just that it has its place.
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Impact is good to reduce fatigue due to lighter weight, smaller profile, easier on wrist. But the driller/drivers nowadays are more versatile I agree………. But dont go around saying impact this and impact that. Not all impacts are equal. For example…. An m12 fuel impact as an electrician is too perfect. An m12 doesnt take nearly as much torque to engage the hydraulics as an m18. Because of the m12… i can use powertools on more things and speed up work because I can use my m12 on things that u cant use an m18+ on.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼hats off to this man. He’s right. I have this argument daily with apprentices. Impact drivers are for specific things. If you use your tools for what they are intended and use them properly you won’t be at risk of injury or burnout of tools. Keep doing this content.
Thank you
Only reas9n impact is good is for the weight. If all your doing is driving a few average length screws its better. But if youre doing a multitude of tasks the drill is superior in every way
Try hanging that drill on your toolbelt all day while climbing up and down ladders OR driving that 4" deck screw without it being pre-set while leaning over all day. The impact wins every time.
You mean like men did for 70 years before the weak wristed girls, more worried about breaking a nail, decided it was too heavy.
@@ToolswithSoAlz ahh.. the old "we used to walk to school barefoot in the snow uphill both ways" response.
You got me sir
you are right. the clutch settings are underutilized by most.
He's definitely got a point but it also depends on the job you are using the tools for!
I'd love to be able to use 1 tool for everything but i install kitchen appliances & I need a light weight, low power draining, trigger sensitive impact driver for small screws all day long & a drill that can drill through block & do core holes through wood & chip board & share a high power battery with my jigsaw for occasional hob cutouts & extractor cuts...
Using a heavy drill for 1 job sounds like a dream come true but the bag weight & operating weight & setting changing would render my right hand disabled within 6 months.
I use a m12s a lot for mechanic work, cars and lawnmower the brand new drill in speed one will pull off anything on a small engine, lawnmower ect and not break bits unlike a 1/4 impact, drills definitely take over in many cases, I’m 18 and you sir have taught me that. On a side note obviously impact are more fit for high torque applications
But I pulled a starter off a 5.3 with a m12 drill, that’s just damn impressive.
I use both.
Impacts are good for small fasteners and applying shock to certain stuck bolts or screws. But yes running fresh screws into material especially wood, the drill is better to use.
I hate how people use impacts for everything. Drills are so much better for driving screws
Agreed
Fun fact.
In Germany literally noone uses Impact drivers for Woodwork.
We use Impact guns! But Just for metalworking, worked with them a lot, but i would never think about using them for wood lol. Impact drivers aren't really a thing here, and i think im speaking for almost all of Europe xD
They weren't really used in America until after 2008. That's when all the soft guys started in the trades
@@ToolswithSoAlzThat's funny, gotta say we got lots of really really good craftmen, but we have the equal amount of soft "hobby handymen" 😂😂
Thought i gotta say, me personally im a car technician and besides removing Panels i mainly use ratches or pneumatic tools xD
Old school carpenters been using impacts in the Netherlands for atleast a decade.
@@John-r4b4d didnt know that, really thought they we're frowned upon by all of Europe lol
This man is absolutly correct. The drill is a multi pourpous tool, I love my impacts but they do have a place in the tool box just like any other tool. Personally I dont drill/screw into wood much, and taking machine screw and smaller bolts out of semi truck frames and such makes the impact my go to, but putting up TV wall mounts I will take the drill anyday since the impact typically just snaps the lags.
I use the drill for screws and I use the driver for nuts and bolts
It’s not the torque when the screw is fully fastened but the fact that you have to counter the torque with your wrist. The impact drivers are a pain in the ass to listen too but easier to hold on to.
Impacts weigh less and have quick release. Can see how they are faster for driving heavy duty coach bolts but 99% of the time an impact is more convenient and ergonomic
I love both and have both but i cant lie i love drilling holes wirh my impact and a wood bit 😂its class
i don't like them, not because i hurt my wrist using it, but because i ended up hurting my whole shoulder when the head snapped off the tool and wrapped around my hand.
And weight, drill is way heavier then the impact. And rarely do you need the extra power.
I used to use one to coil banding for shipping
Both are good for their design. If someone is scared of using a tiny drill because it will break a wrist, they need some excercises irrelevant to the clutch.
Carpenter here- sometimes even my impact is too big to get into where i need to throw fasteners 😂 let alone a damn hammer drill. Both have their place, but for fastening on a jobsite, i gotta say the impact is the superior tool due to the maneuverability
Agree with you totally, use your drill with the clutch to drive in screws. Start out low setting and increase until it goes in to your required depth.
PSA CHECK YOUR LIBRARY!!! My local library has a “library of things” where you can borrow a power drill-super useful if you don’t use drills often and don’t want to spend $100 on one.
I use a 1/4 impact because for what I do it works the best. If I was a carpenter I would use the drill. Only time I use the drill is for stuck bolts and anti tip stove brackets. Yes sir are correct. Other than sheet metal impacts are useful for taking out fasteners that were already there.
I work on cars and have both and the impact driver is better for my line of work.. I use them for the shields under the cars, screws in rotars and stuff like that and the drill just can't compete with the driver
Yup. You figured it out. Every carpenter, tradesman and builder has it all wrong but you were too smart for them!! Your genius is only exceeded by your humility!! You had to go and tell the entire world they they were wrong and you were right.
Ma'am the only thing you've ever done on a job site is to deliver lunch to your husband
My neighbors like the drill...
2am results
Lol
The impact is alot smaller and lighter, they both have their place
Many people don't know about the clutch 😂
My father inlaw didn't know lol but he old school 😂
Lol
I just prefer the quick release on the impact when changing out bits and adapters.
Yeah but the impacts make a cool sound.
Lol
I use impact 80 percent of the time, drill i use for fastening , drilling pilot holes and using a wire wheel to clean motor shafts for motor replacement (electric motors)
Every day you tell people this. And every day people try to avoid you in the hallways.
Ma'am, go back to cruising the playgrounds looking for your next 4 year old girlfriend and leave the tools to men
I use both because they're different tools for different jobs.
In the past everyone used combi drills as drivers and there's a good reason why they switched to using impact drivers but that being said an impact driver can't replace a combi drill.
Different tools for different jobs.
You're right in a lot of scenarios, however, it's entirely too long for 80% of my applications
This guys legit. Knows what he talking anout. Keep it up Sir.
Thank you
I like my impact purely because of the weight. Screwing a deck all day with a drill vs a impact is a huge difference
If you used the clutch on the drill you would also be done faster
Ppl keep telling me drill is dead but I still use mine all the time, both tools are needed imo
Both have a purpose- a drill is multi-purpose-whatever you set it up for, an impact driver is best at fasteners
Now hold on one second now both worth great.
My opinion on it is
Impact does give u more torque and it makes driving screws in a lot tougher yet more quality efficient
Now the other one is just handy to have because it’s a purpose to like u said
Impact is so much more comfortable with bigger screws. Also helps the life of your drill.
You're letting your excuses expose your incompetence