Why Marvel and Sony CANCELLED The Venom Movies
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Sony just announced it cancelled a bunch of it's Marvel Movie plans. Post all your reactions in the comments! Here's my FULL X-Men 97 Episode 10 video too! ua-cam.com/video/CFqBgA8ob7c/v-deo.html
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Thanks Charlie great video
No problem!
😰😱 Was already bad enough that he lost Aunt May in the last Spider-Man movie now y'all wanna kill Peter Parker!
Tom Hardy was doing a good job, but Sony is terrible at this.
They never understood Venom or carnage, or spiderman for that matter.
The point of Venom is imagine spiderman with the brakes off. But that only works in relation to Spidey after being a good guy for years. Thats the least of their misunderstanding.
Well I look forward seeing Venom's return in the 98 Spiderman series as a adversary and as an anti hero to Spiderman very soon. I'm so look forward in Sony keep messing up their on non Spiderman villains so that Marvel can finally buy the rights back from Sony Pictures.
Meh he was ok, everyone should be like henry cavil qnd push for the characters to be as accurate as possible
making a spidey verse without spidey was doomed from the start
Bingo
They literally have the rights what were they thinking bruh
I'm tired of Sony fucking shit up
I don't give them my money. Vote with your wallet
Please don't use any bad words.
Disney not doing any better
@@tobejaison9781fuck off kid. Don't be on the internet
Morbius and Madame Web shared some of the same writers.
I really hope that the little symbiote left behind by Tom Hardy in the No Way Home post credit scene doesn't get forgotten. It's a clean slate for the MCU to make their version of Venom.
Obviamente no pueden olvidarlo
Feige has so much sh going on right now, I wouldn't be surprised if he completely forgot about it and doesn't pay it off until 2030.
We Need To See That
They shouldn't make a new venom
@@Symbiotespiderman215 Why not? It'd be much closely accurate to the comics. Watch youtuber Th3Birdman videos on 2018 Venom and 2021 Venom Let There Be Carnage.
Sony has no one to blame but themselves.
You work at Sony?
Don't...once the old senior senior senior old farts dies...you be able to make money... Don't believe that crap
@@Dobbythecat123yea I am Sony camera
@@Dobbythecat123 He does work for Sony, i can confirm cuz i am Sony's mic
I don't remember a single thing about Venom 2, besides it being short and needing to be rated R
"Lets make the sequel villain a superpowered serial killer, and make the film itself pg-13!!"
Kids are the only ones that can enjoy a movie like this, so they were kinda between a rock and a hard place.
it was a remake of Venom 1
Facts 😂😂😂😂😂 like who came up with idea to make venom a comedy movie and pg 13 ??? Fire them now
The First Venom Film, In My Opinion Was Really Good, But Carnage In Venom 2 Wasn't Nearly As Aggressive/Intimidating As He Should Have Been,....I Was Hopeful, But,....Unfortuanately, It Simply Didn't Work,...Hardy's Venom Is Excellent, But Why They Thought A Comedy Rated PG-13,....It's Bizarre,....
Sony WASTED Carnage with the BEST actor for the job. They had everything lined up for them and they literally did everything wrong, from the title (LTB Carnage?? WTF is that?) to the Carnage character being nerfed and PG-ified and removing the character from future movies. Sony has worked their ass off to F this up and they deserve their failure. Not that the overpaid talentless professional lunch Havers will see any consequences for their screw ups but in fact at best still get bonuses and fail up, at worst multi million $ golden parachute for their failure and move on to lead and ruin other companies.
This aged poorly
I HATED how NOT canon their Eddie Brock/Venom was, I want to see a bad guy Venom FIRST, gotta BUILD to the antihero, they jumped right in, and I hated it
Yes thank you. Brain dead Ppl want to cram this venom into the Spider-Man movies without any personal history
@@BM-sg1sl I agree, that's such a terrible and dumb idea. The ONLY way it would work is if they had Hardy play a multiverse Brock (ie: NOT the one we've had) and have him working at the DB and go through his villain storyline from the comics)
@@nicholasfaith8999 exactly. I’d be totally ok with that route. I actually think that’s the route they’ll take
Yeah, you know how good a movie can be having the villain win!!
This just illustrates the problem they have universe building at Sony. Morbious never really felt like he was needed when the movie ended, and Madame Web just treated every character except her like they didn't deserve screen time. The villain (can't remember his name) just kept telling everyone how hard his life was over and over again with no actual context, and the spider-women got a couple of future shots that were all flash and no substance and brief moments about how they were alone in the world that could have turned into something, but were only really used to make them relatable to Madame Web so she would actually give a damn if the guy killed them. I'm pretty sure the only reason they've ever made a halfway decent Spiderman/Venom movie is because the world knows enough about Spiderman/Venom and their major antagonists that we don't need them to fill in the blanks cause we're already doing it for them with our past knowledge.
After what they did to Carnage, the writing was on the wall.
I don't disagree, but tbf, Venom w/o Spider-man is already FUBAR. it's a bit of a russian nesting doll situation of new fuck-ups that proceed to reveal themselves from the one, similar and glaring original fuck-up.
Excuse Me @@daneg, But What Does Fubar Mean?
@@The_Eleven23 Fucked up beyond all recognition
Thanks Much @@darthbuckethead8909 👏💯👏💯
...did it say "Carnage" in blood?
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
I'm still sad about what they have done with Venom and Carnage.
I think it's a good move they made lord and Miller in charge because they take time to develop a solid scripts when making movies. I think in general, focus more on Spiderman and slowly integrating those Spiderman related characters, within these Spiderman movies.
I hoped we see Tom Hardy Venom in either the end of Spider Man 4 or secret wars
We need a daredevil or we need fantastic four in spiderman 4
He was not a good Eddie brock. He just felt like some generic movie character
I enjoy hardy's representation of the character. but I was also good with Topher Grace's version (although the movie was pretty awful). at least spider-man 3 properly set-up the relationship between the symbiote, Peter Parker, and Eddie Brock. they're kinda necessary. this whole idea of a spider-verse without spider-man is comical in its ineptitude. 😆
Wolverine
I wouldn't be surprised if we see him in secret wars still, to be fair.
Charlie, I hope they renew and revive the Spiderman '98 series on Disney+!
Sony animation is the only Sony studio we can trust smh
Spider verse movies is masterpiece because of their creative team.Sony animation also brought us Emoji movie.
Yea but it takes them a long time to cook that up
Wat about its products
Problem is not Sony.... Sony make many great movies.... The problem is the greed of avi arad
What about their gaming division?
Honestly I thing Sony should just give up all rights to their characters
Venom would have been better as a TV series. The movies felt rushed and cheesy
No it wouldn’t they went wrong by not making it rated R
2 things.
1. Venom comics in the 90s ARE cheesy.
2. NO Spider-Man comic or Venom comic has ever been R to begin with. Like seriously Venom comics are a spin off of Spider-Man comics. If you want R rated stuff thats what the Punisher is for.
@@TheSwordsman100go cry to mommy 😢😅
@@zaielpr
Considering you have no actual rebuttal and are resorting to insults. I must've struck a nerve and now you are projecting.
That's the way I feel every single time I see the 'Deadpool and Wolverine' trailers. Cheesy and Campy. I've always despised the feel of those Marvel Studio films. Nothing ever feels real or like there's an actual threat.
How dare you say Morbius was dead movie. It was peak Morbcinema and Sony has now Morbillions of Morbeuros to spend on movies.
besides the huge scene that was too dark after all the amazing effects that went into it, it was a completely decent movie. ;( waah
@@chancepaladinwhen we thought Morbius was about to die but then says "I can't die, because it's morbin time" the whole theater just morbed all over the place. Definitely a moment of all time that's for sure
The nightmare is finally over.
Is it?
@@johnsantos507 I can only hope
@@IMZ44 I don't know, man? Something tells me that nightmare is not truly over.
@@johnsantos507 knowing Sony is very stubborn as hell. You make a good point.
Venom was the only thing beside the spider verse movie that was worth watching
Really ?Man Those Venom movies were shameless insult on Venom name.
@@TheJanissary90 I said it was the best thing Sony put out beside the spiderverse. They were solid films nothing fantastic. Like Charlie said b list movies. Not that the character is a b list one. The movies could be much better but venom is the only Sony spiderman related project beside spider verse that's any good atm
The first Venom was worth watching but the second one was a disappointment
@@sauce6746 agreed
@@sauce6746 second one wasn't bad but definitely didn't do venom/carnage movie justice.
Scrap the SMU idea if Kraven flops and let the Venom films be a trilogy of its own. Also, Avi Arad wasn’t involved as a writer/producer in Madame Web as seen in the credits.
Not if, but when. I have absolutely no reason to think it will be anything but another flop, especially given its director.
The reason animation in general can be better then live action is time. Since more time is required to make them more care in generally taking into the story telly. But live action can be pushed out faster because of that its onecof the biggest corners cut is time for story telling.
I guess I wouldn’t be mad seeing Venom in Secret Wars, just no Morbin time and full Feige control.
The venom movies were a guilty pleasure for me. Venom is my favorite character, and though I didn’t mind the direction they went to do venom without spiderman, they just dropped the ball on many other things that could’ve made it exciting. Still much better than Eric foreman’s Venom.
“It’s not my daddy’s tractor “ lol. Thank you Charlie!
Can’t wait for Tom Hardy Venom and Tom Holland Spider-Man getting to interact with each other
Marvel Sony didn't do the villain Mr. Negative with Spider-man film. 😢
Puede aparecer en spiderman 4
Venom was decent, but honestly could’ve easily been an A tier series. Literally all they would’ve had to do was make it rated R and let loose with the violence. Carnage should’ve been a blood bath. That’s why it was so disappointing for me. There’s some weaknesses in the story but the violence was seriously lacking
I just watched Madame Web on Netflix and during the whole movie my brain was doing this: ....................
that movie was so horrendous i was in shock 😂🤣😂
Yo Brain Signing Off With Each Scene Viewd. Yo Brain Hated u For that😂😂
@@The_Eleven23 it did🤣😂🤣 even the action sequences were terrible, it was like the 80’s vhs japanese spiderman tape but somehow worse 😳😂
Avi Arad truly is Spider-Man's worst enemy.
Well…at least they put out great material over the years. Spidey 1 and 2 are legendary and so is the Spiderverse
All the spider-verse stuff is continuing. I explain how their plans have changed recently.
One more to go!
Sony might as well give money to charity rather than waste it on live action hero movies. If they had even 0.1 % of a brain cell they would get sacked X-Men 97 Beau and make him head of all superhero stuff and give him the resources to do what he wants. He would turn around their fortunes within 18-24 months
Someone needs to give that man a job asap
Well shit; haven’t kept up with the news, but that sucks.
Edit: disregard that; I think this is great news. Getting rid of the spin offs is a long time coming and I hope that they can get their house in order
I think Tom Hardy will be fine, we'll see his Venom again elsewhere after his last movie.
Well thats awsome to know were Venom is going and thanks.
THANKS for this!!! Love getting Spider-Man news!!!!
Awesome!
Ir would make sense because why would deadpool fight so much the TVA
They had to cancel it because they can’t keep making venom movies that’s not Rated R ‼️
The problem with Sony is that they're focusing on everyone BUT Spider-Man. Venom's and Carnage portrayal was terrible. We didn't need a Madame Web movie. We didnt need a Morbius movie. We definitely don't need a Kraven movie where he's some kind of anti-hero or any of the other side-characters from the SM universe.
Honestly, I'm hoping Kraven and Venom 3 tank just as bad as the previous movies so Sony has to either give up SM or work something out with Marvel where they have more say so.
Enough with Sony. Venom should transition into the MCU after this trilogy. Last Dance for this chaotic studio.
Venom belongs to Sony. The best they can do is just take their royalties for letting Marvel use their characters and lay off the writers of Spiderman 4. We don't need No Way Home 2 that Sony is pushing for.
"That's not my daddys tractor"...finna save that for another day
Sony is probably trying to figure out how to require a PSN account to see their movies 😬
It's about time. The first was ok at best and the sequel was even worse
Remember how Flash Gordon was such a great film? No one decided to remake it and make spin offs to kill it. They probably need to do the same thing with Spiderman once the secret wars is finished.
Well I’m really excited for the live action spider man noir series on Amazon prime
"It's not my daddy's tractor"
Tom you are such a treasure 🤣💚
I liked the Tom Hardy Venom movies. I’d say it’s a shame they’re cancelling that, but the real shame is the mess Sony made with everything else. 🤷♂️
A Nick Cage SM-Noir movie, though? Just let me know when tix are on sale! 😳#TakeMyMoney
Thanks for the update, man! 🍷
Interesting.. so weird .. thanks for the heads up NYC one ❤
My question is why does it take them so long to see what things aren't working??
Is it just us who are now paying double the price for our movie tickets that see it. Or that they have so much more money they don't even know what a budget is?? I mean
it's there money so waste it on what you want. But don't ask me to spend mine and then say "why aren't people going to the
Theaters?" 🤦🏼♀️Duh besides twice the price.
You want to enjoy and connect With the movie. Wow sorry went on a bit. 🤷🏼♀️
Thanks Charlie great video! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🌺
Amy Pascal left Sony in 2016 and founded her own production studio, Pascal Pictures. Due to her good relationship with people like Kevin Feige and Lord + Miller, Sony contracted her to co-produce all the Tom Holland Spidey films and all the animated Spider-Verse films.
Whenever Sony has tried to produce a Marvel-based film on their own, without Pascal's involvement, we get results like Morbius and Madame Web.
Amy Pascal is a zany lady, but she knows how to gather and support strong creative teams and let them do their thing. She is known to protect the creatives against outside meddling.
Left to themselves, Sony doesn't have the chops to assemble all they crucial creative elements, and they interfere with their decisions in mid-production.
Did this version of Eddie ever work at the Bugle tho? I'm still fuzzy on that
Avi Arad is to Spider-Man Characters. I must say is the equivalent of Uwe Bolle to Video Game Movies
Craven the hunter is going to bomb. Russel sounds more like craven than Aaron smh !
You’d think they would’ve learned their lesson 10 years ago but clearly they’re more efficient in meddling than making decisions.
I'm so sad they're not going to make anymore venom movies after last dance😔
Great Breakdown Charlie
Thanks!
Yeah Venom needs a reboot.
Why sony why😢 1:34
Just watched Madame Web last night. Holy cow. It makes Morbius look like a masterpiece.
Thank God Avi Arad is finally getting the long awaited rest we need
Whoever came up with idea to make the venom movie comedy, childish, all jokes and PG 13 needs to be fired ‼️
i believe this is the right move for sony to have made. focus on what really works and forget things that turn into disasters like morbius and madame web. into the spider-verse, across and the 3 tom holland spider-man movies have been working out great,stick with that and go from there. maybe bring a live action version of black cat into tom holland's spider-man 4 movie instead of doing a stand alone film for her. make things better but, don't over do it like the mcu has done to itself. take the time and slow it down one or two movies at a time. #NUFFSAID
Perfect..... With Spider-Man All Alone Now in The MCU, Venom Would be The Perfect Friend for Him. Their Relationship Should Span More Than Two Movies Before they Separate.
venom just doesn't work without spiderman, its like professor x without magneto.
They just need to redo spiderman with a focus on venom as the villain-antihero then a bigger antagonist behind the scene.
Thank you for this video.
No one in this professional and seasoned company thought having a person or a team controlling all the movies would be basic rule number 1? If you want a bunch of movies related to each other or establish a Universe, how does that not compute? It astounds me billions of dollars are put down without a a huge written out proposal of the big picture not being established.
Good the Sony spiderman universe was already pretty much dead in the water since morbius hit hard.
As a massive fan of 90's comics that are still edgy enough to shave with, good. There hasn't been one good Venom on screen and that version of Carnage was damn shameful too. Woody Harrelson made a pretty good Cletus (obviously, dude does unhinged serial killer extremely well), but that was a piss poor excuse for a shape-shifting, bloodthirsty avatar of evisceration. I'm just glad they never got to fuck up Toxin or Hybrid. And you know they would've.
Sony need to fire their story writers and hire original writers from the comics, and let them co direct
honestly the only Spider-man movie i care about is beyond the spider-verse and that's about it, the live action stuff on the other hand I don't really care about in my opinion.
Might be a low bar, but is it too much to ask for a Venom with the white spider logo (again)?
I said this from the beginning when Venom came out don't support any of the Sony movies and clearly they tried to connect everything to MCU spider man and could never use Tom Holland in any of the movies
From Sony I'm only interested in the spider-verse animated films. And the noir amazon series. Who knows.... maybe we'll see venom as a priest in Spider-Man noir series. I'm glad silk was canceled
I talk about why they just made a bunch of changes behind the scenes. And it is Spider-Verse related.
@@emergencyawesomesilk isn’t cancelled. It’s just not moving forward at Amazon. Sony is still shopping the show around to other networks.
@emergencyawesome yep. But if they are doing a live action miles morales I wonder if he'll be in the mcu. Maybe this is little insurance on their end in case Tom Holland leaves the role. Or if marvel/disney and Sony have another disagreement. And Sony just makes Spider-Man films in house. No involvement in the mcu. But still the noir series is what I'm looking forward to above all else.
I figured that would happen I could only watch the first one you once, and barely got through the second one
i knew Charlie was going to include the “not my daddy’s tractor” Tom Hardy line in this video. i just knew.
The cool thing about how the MCU is set up is that they can still take any of these characters down the road and use them.
6:04 spider-man 2 movie 7:27 evil man
yes
You can thank Morbius and Madame Webb for that.
I just hope that Sony Direction and the start feeling like a theatrical production and not some crazy fan fiction!
I would’ve loved if Sony creatives thought of the idea of making a tv series for Spidey instead. I imagined it could’ve been Andrew’s adaption of “Ultimate Spider-Man” 2/3 seasons leading up to “Death of Spider-Man” and bringing Miles Morales.
Sony just needs to sell Spiderman and venom to Marvel and get it over with. I'm tired of them fuckin up
Sony should give ALL their Marvel character rights back to Marvel or at least give Marvel the opportunity to buy them back.
I'll miss Tom Hardy as Venom - I think Tom - as well as directors Ruben Fleischer & Andy Serkis of course - did a good job with those movies considering the relatively restricted budgets.
I hope Sony and Marvel pull a Last Action Hero when it comes to breaking the 4th wall, where they recognize the characters are the actors and vice versa to be extremely meta.
That's Deadpool.
Using "only" to qualify a 100 million dollar movie is crazy!
Also lord and Miller is also in charge of the movies I think to Hopefully we see all the spider verse characters and all their other Spider-Man characters crossover in the in avengers, secret wars
Spider-Man and Venom should go back to Marvel if Sony can't figure out what to do with them. Spider-Verse was the only thing Sony did right without the MCU in my opinion
I mean the 2 venom movies were ok, but beside that they're just destroying the image of those characters
Sony needs to be off'd. They manage to fuck up every good thing they come in contact with. Smh... Spidey and Venom need to be in the MCU, and that's it.
They should just stay doing animated Spider-Man stuff
And make a animated cinematic universe instead
And plus you don’t gotta worry about actors AGING out of there roles soo u. Can just keep on making them = more money
IMO, at the end of behind the spider verse they make a bridge to the live action spidermen and later we have a live action spider verse with the 3 peters, Gwen, miles, Miguel. Etc.
6:27 😂😂😂!
Dude, I tried really REALLY hard to watch Madame-Web and I just couldn't sit through it!! I dont understand why Sony thinks it's so damn easy to make good movies just because [Enter reason here] because they do need a Kevin Feige figure, but Sony will never give me the chance. I could do that job and it would work!! That's a fact!!! How do I apply for the job??????
First Helldivers 2 now this 😂
I like the idea of them bringing in their own Spiderman, and restarting with the spider verse leadership. They can use an animated spider verse Spiderman and tell another story. But they need to put that off until spider verse pt2 is done to prevent distraction and burnout. Unfortunately that might risk their >6 year time limit, making the time frames really tight to get done.
Even that Blue screen choreographed fight looked horrible
0:33 so with there games to
Madam Web was so bad they are panicking. Movie studios lack any vision. The sad thing is Madam Web could have been cool, but it really should have been teased and introduced before a solo movie. Only hardcore comic fans would even understand that story, and those do not represent enough people to make box office gold. They needed to develop the characters in other films first so the average fan had a f**k to give for a solo movie. Sony as a movie studio has proven it is incompetent. I hate to say it but Disney/Marvel should cut ties (even though that means saying bye to Tom Holland's Spider-Man.
i remember when sony use to make awesome cd players with esp
👍
We'll get the trailer of venom the last dance sometimes soon!
rip SPUMC
Cutting your losses is smart business. That being said, i always thought Kraven was Spider-Man's fiercest and toughest enemy, as far as his "regulars" go. I found myself a little hyped after watching the Kraven trailer, too. By contrast, i didn't a single bit of hype watching the Morbius and Madame Web trailers. Sony hopefully learned what Marvel is currently learning: the more obscure/less popular a character is, the less interest that will be generated. This only applies to franchises or entities that already have HUGE followings. It would be like Star Wars making a Greedo movie.