The VectorPod is "UNFIXABLE"? But WHY??? Apple iPod Nano 5th gen from 2009 has the SPOT OF DEATH!
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2023
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There's not enough room inside the iPod to slide the internals out when the battery is expanded. Trying will (in all likelihood) puncture the battery leading to a FIRE.
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This iPod didn’t have the spot originally.
I got it in an eBay lot and plugged it in overnight to see if the battery would hold a charge.
I woke up and it had THE SPOT.
You can use a little saw or something at the top. What I did for mine and I pushed it our
It's Canon
Refrigerate. Don't freeze it might puncture. After it's been refrigerating for a while check if it'll budge. If the tension changes not enough try freezing it
You just need to empty the battery somehow. The danger of Liion Batteries comes entirely from their charge. Once they are discharged, the energy is already out, and you can even open the battery itself without causing a fire.
All those Liion Batteries catching fire videos are done with charged ones.
No! That’s not even remotely true. Lithium batteries are dangerous when fully charged AND when fully discharged. In fact over discharging the lithium battery can cause it to flame on.
You can put it in a freezer for about 10 minutes so the gases in the battery condense and make it easier to remove it
Thank you all for the likes I’ve never had this many
I came here to comment the same lmao
ty for the info
That's smart. Just make sure you have an explosion containing cookie tin like Big Clive recommends.
Another clive fan!@@Zoroaster4
Back when my iPhone 6 would get hot I’d pop it in the freezer for 10 min 😂😂
A good friend of mine repairs the ones where they still had value and showed me how to put them in a plastic bag and freeze them for 3 days. Then you can get them out of there
thanks for the info, I've seen people say to freeze them but not for how long. I will try this.
@@Kelson01maybe go the route of using dry ice?
@@jash6105 kaboom? Yes kaboom
@@EuropaBallYT would the dry ice react with the battery and cause a bigger explosion or something?
@jash6105 dry ice is only really needed when you need something to freeze quickly or especially cold. For a battery it could freeze unevenly or even make the pouch brittle. I'd just suggest a freezer unless a lot of people suggest dry ice
It’s not the same when the guy talks about an iPod and isn’t Australian.
he's also not screaming about some mythic creature named frank
@@crashbflexin "FRAAAANK!"
@@SauceTheSecond "YOU STINKY IDIOT"
I agree
THE BLACK SPOT
That ipod needs to go into quarantine.
Put it in a glass jar that says 'shake the jar. Win a prize.'
na-no
It's really not that dangerous, dead lithium batteries that have expanded have no energy in them
@@lukedavis436 na-no 🐍🔋
@@iqwastaken y e s
obscure dankpods reference
THE BLACK SPOT
QUICK GET THE BRASSO WATER
"NAH ITS DONE. ITS FINNISH!"
@@johncocharo5531 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
@@johncocharo5531JAMES DONT TOUCH IT
THAT’S GOING IN THE JAR
@rlyboringalt I got a notification saying "THATS GOING IN THE JAR" that was horrifying
This shit was a prized item for me back in the day. Mix that with long sleeved shirts, headphones under said shirt and long hair. You had music all through out school
THE ONE PIECE
IS REAL
Is reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
*kanye wests dark fantasy starts playing*
omg
ONE PIECE
Didn’t wanna deal with doing a repair myself like a normally do because it’s really difficult. Brought the iPod to some stupid mall repair shop because the other one said they didn’t have the battery for it but the other could order one. They killed it! RIP pink ipod
Ouch.
You have the vectorpod and Dankpods has the shrekpod😂
True tho
wade from dankpods also explained how awfully HARD to take everything out with an expanded battery on an na-no, and he calls this: the black spot.
edit: HOLY STINK MOM IM FAMOUS
Hehe na-no hehehe
na-no
na-no
*na-no*
The black curse
DankPods on UA-cam is daddy when it comes to repairing and explaining how these old iPods do their thing
THE BLACK SPOT (dank pods).
The black spot starting.
Frank says nothing
Planned obsolescence apple's favorite trick
I wouldn't disagree, but this thing is over 15 years old by now. Li-On way past its lifetime
@@SibaNLI assume he was being sarcastic lol. I hope anyways.
this was back when apple actually had to try to keep their consumer base. They last forever, compared to now at least.
Ikr microscop zune was much better than whatever this is
@@SibaNL Planned obsolescence is also making a product less repairable, that's what he meant. Sure, they're 15 years old now, but it's not like you could easily open it and change the battery in day one. If the battery died, you either bought a new one or got shafted paying for repairs.
Actually throw it in the freezer then let it set in there overnight at 20°F then when you take it out the housing will expand first allowing more room along with the contracted battery membrane will allow you to easily push out the guts for a certain length of time after first getting them out of the freezer. It is a short amount of time so have it ready to come apart when it goes in so you can immediately put pressure the assembly with the spudger.
Run the battery down and put rubber bands around it until the screen is flush. Also you put it in the freezer to help de-expand the battery
Yea I was gonna say if he can completely discharge it somehow, then it’d be safe.
I already knew this because of dankpods but good video
Ah yes. The danger pillow.
Good old apple, they have great designs, but their true feat of engineering in their modern era is making their products as disposable as possible. Truly, no one does it quite like them.
“All in one piece” *sigh* can’t wait for an entire fandom to be summoned.
"one piece" is like an activation word for sleeping agents that are one piece fans
Those were really the best feeling piece of technology ever made
ah, the na-no’s good ol’ spicy pillow, great for a one time nap.
First my dad has one with a black and white sock second the fact that there’s just random people with knowledge of how to fix that issue is amazing
the demon dot (yes that’s my term for it) is the ipod equivalent to a bsod
Not really
Shindows computers crash constantly, with the most damage usually being lost work.
The Black Spot is a a massive design flaw that makes the IPod dangerous.
@@stanb1455 i was talking more about the repair side of things because for the bluescreen the only way to know what is throwing a hissy fit is to test every part of it or use a special device that the average household can’t afford and for the black dot you have to pray and hope the battery doesn’t tear when you’re repairing it
@@rhythmickiller4604 or use event viewer with windows
Man the amount of people who don't wanna fix Black spotted iPods...I could make a business refurbishing these because I don't give a crap about them blowing up
Because scientifically...they won't! Especially if the battery has no energy, it could smoke a little....but it won't violently blow its guts out unless it's fully charged (or above 25% the safe level of charge)
Apple has been finding ways to make sure you can't repair their products well before the 1st smart phone.
I remember seeing a Hugh Jeffreys video where the same problem happened, but on a more severe level. The way the battery was removed was by cutting off the screen. In this case, it would damage a perfectly good screen, but the risk of a fire hazard is partially gone.
Or chassis
I used to repair this exact issue, only issue I had was the lock switch ripping, the batteries expanding is wayy less a big deal than the cables getting pinched inside ❤️🤙
If you get an atmosphere chamber you could replace the atmosphere inside with something less reactive than oxygen, like agron or smth, and just pop the battery. I know this is probably a long shot but it would definitely work.... Probably.
Lithium batteries can self-reignite. If it’s in a state that it would ignite in normal atmosphere (such as torn open), then it will ignite once oxygen is re-introduced. It’s part of why water doesn’t work too great on them.
Well the idea is that he can safely remove the battery from the iPod and place the battery inside a jar of oil to prevent combustion in the atmosphere. It still is a super silly and over complicated method but it might work as a last ditch effort.
The cost of a vacuum chamber and enough of a non-reactive gas to safely fill this would likely cost far more than several eBay bundles of old nanos, plus some replacement batteries. Plus you'd have to somehow deal with the likely pierced lithium battery, which would essentially be able to reignite for months afterwards unless you somehow detonated it in some sort of chamber. Even if you just stored the battery in sand, it could take months for all the cells to be finished reacting.
Usually lithium batteries will unpuff with cold temperature, so that's a much easier and safer method.
That sounds like a nile red collaboration in the making (plus it would be kinda funny)
You are overthinking it, discharged li-ions do not explode, just dischare it flat and you would be safe. Then take the needle and poke a smal hole in outter plastic layers of battery (do not stab it deep, just outter layer) and by slowly pressing it deflate the spicy pillow.
Just saying, the chassis is the serialized part, if you were to replace all of the internal components fully, it's still the same ipod, technically speaking. Just get a new screen, logic board, and battery, scrap the old internals, and boom, same serial number on case=same ipod.
Doesn't the ROM contain the device ID?
THE ONE PIECE...IS REAL🗣🗣
You made me chuckle
@@DH_Fireofficial :D
I have the same iPod,it puzzled me what it was but thanks for clearing that up,still listening to bangers from the rave era👍
We already know this because of Dankpods. LMAO 🤣
This was the most precious thing back then ❤️🤩
Never did i think id be listening to a man call Tuesday "feminine" at 1am on a Wednesday
I'm pretty sure if you took a Dremel to the outside of the case all around you could create two halves and then you could pull it out then from there you could remove the battery and assuming the screen is still good You could just 3D print another case.
For iPods like this, my strategy would likely be to purchase a replacement screen and screen glass and use the existing ones as a sacrifice to basically cut them up and remove them without puncturing the battery. That way there’s plenty of space within the created cavity that the battery should be able to slide out, unless it’s so swollen to the point where you can’t even remove it with that, in which case it’s done anyway.
I repaired one of these live on Twitch recently :3 I desoldered the battery aswell and imo it’s a pretty easy fix
Man that ipod is so nostalgic, me my brother and my sister all had one growing up, that and the nook were our childhood
🎵Shawty's like a melody🎵
I did this repair a few months ago with a spicy pillow battery and it was indeed fairly difficult to do without damaging any ribbon cables. I do a lot of electronics mods and those iPods are pretty high up there on the PITA scale.
Thanks bro you just reminded me of the backyard scientist
This makes me feel old even though I’m 23. I have an IPod that was a tiny bit older than this one but I remember if I wanted new songs on my iPod I had my friend I had to go to and make a list of songs I wanted on there and he would look them up and put them on the IPod.
Now you can just instantly look up a song and save it to your phone. 😵💫
Amazing engineering
What way has my life taken, that i never have owned one of these but still know how to fix this issue...
Thanks Wade from DankPods.
When he said 😂 watch backyard scientists 😂😂 i really feel it 😂😂😂
This was the first iPod i ever opened. Was also the first time i ever soldered. Both was super easy
You can use a needle to pierce the battery. And will not catch any fire if you wont damage the internals, just the casing , so it will make it leak fumes and gas, which will deflate it. Tho my dad did that with his old nokia phome and it even works till today, he just used aome glue to cover the hole
I still have my ipod like the blue one you have, same color too!
You could also take a dremel into the top bar of the frame. Sure might be difficult to fix that later, but then you do not have to slide the guts underneath that top bar anymore, so little expansion is not an issue anymore
Spicy pillow💥💥🔥🔥
I have this exact same iPod…. And it has despicable me on it.🔥
Yeah I got lucky when I was being dumb and removing the back glass of a phone plugged in, with 100% battery, with a knife and punctured it and all it did was smoke. All I’m saying is be careful with those batteries because you may not get lucky
you can freeze it but you can also pop it with relatively little damage if you empty it fully, at most only the pressurized gasses will burn but there's so little it'll just do a quick fire pop
doing both will basically remove any fire at all
I got mine from my dad when he got a phone and it did that to me so I just took the glass out and it works great
One of my favorite ways to explain this to someone who has no idea what the hell it means when a battery expands. I often use the analogy of ice in a water bottle when it's been frozen, you can't get it out without unthawing the ice. Although this would mean having to completely discharge the battery the battery will still be expanded to some extent.
One time we were replacing my iPhone’s battery because it was awful, it’d barely last a few hours, and then it ignited. 😂 we threw the battery outside.
Omg I used to have that same model and color I miss it
DankPods has an Entire long form vid on this
Dam haven't seen these ipods since 10th grade. Had a blue one and i have no idea where it went since i got a smartphone haha
I fixed a similar one (the shuffle without the screen) with a swollen battery and it was a little tight to slide it out but I didn't explode or anything and i replaced the battery no prob
You can puncture the pillow if you run it till dead, I just use something like a thumbtack to make a tiny hole to let the gas out. But 4th and 5th gens are just horrible to take apart.
I still miss my iPad nano.
Maybe if you put the phone in a zip loc and let the gasses shrink in the freezer the battery should shink but dont let it too long or the liquid in the screen could get ruined but i never tried it so i recomend some researsh and good luck mate
I cut in to a Li-ion battery no knowing what it could do. Nothing happened and I looked what could happen up because it got warm. I got so worried but about a month later I’m very thankful
Now imagine growing up with these. 😂 Losing these was the easist most expensive mistake I've made multiple times. 😭
But Apple has always been wildn with the enclosed batteries.
My friend asked me to fix his once and i saw the screen poking out snd did some research and im glad i told him no after that
I remember these from the fifth grade lol can’t believe people still do stuff with em
I have concert hall on and this is a surreal experience
Thank you for reminding me that I needed to watch despicable me again
I HAVE ONE OF THESE! It still works too! :3
Yeah the VectorPod's ready for quarantine, I've seen some videos that show how to deflate the spicy pillow, but it just tells you to gently puncture the membrane of the ticking time bomb. Not worth it.
Shake the jar! Win a prize!
There’s a strategy of doing it correctly that makes a lot easier
I have the same one but the glass broke out of it like 7 years ago and It’s never had that problem lol still works to
Batteries only catch fire when they are charged, if they are empty I think it's somewhat safe to pinch them
THE ONE PIEEEEEEECE
Expanded battery? That’s a spicy pillow
Makes me miss my ipod like that, just because the baso sauce spilled in the bag, it finally died😅
It also happens to my cousin's Nintendo DS lite
Just watched someone fix this exact problem earlier.
Dankpods fans will refer to this as “the spot”
You can cut a slit in the metal top and pull it out it will only leave a small line on the cover
Thanks great value dankpods👽
Here's a tip, if the battery is fully and completely dead you can puncture the battery without danger
Hard to tell whether a battery is fully dead while its still in the ipod. Just because it doesnt turn on it doesnt mean its completely dead at 0 volts. You'd have to measure the voltage directly at the cell to be sure. But even then I'd not recommend to puncture a battery because of the escaping gasses
I mean, you COULD slice down one of the sides, replace the battery then put it back together as well as you can, or use a chassis from one with a dead board. But I doubt anyone will go through that.
Noooooo, not the black spot of death 😰 i recognized that shit immediately, this ipod nano is so notorious for being an absolute FIRE starter past a certain point. So effing scary!!
DANKPODS HELP HIM WITH HIS NUGGET PLEASEEEE 😂
Officer I promise there was an australian guy talking about nuggets!
Eh, if you know what you're doing, you can just release the gas from the plastic wrapping on the battery. Puncturing the cell might get you fireworks, but not the plastic wrapping that covers the aluminium shell. But I would not recommend this to most people, especially if they're not handy and technically inclined.
I have a 5th Gen nano that just randomly stopped working back in 2019. Still have it somewhere just can’t get it fixed or put new music on it anymore so it’s just a memento
Me: hears one piece.
Also me: sigh (checks comments)
"Why can't you just change the battery?" This is an apple product we are talking about , They are MADE TO BE NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO TAKE APART. So that you're forced to replace rather than repair
People: "why cant you just replace the battery"
Me:"because its an apple device"😂
This made me miss my ipod nano so much T.T I lost 2, and after the second one I didn't want to waste more money
The black spot (who else loves dankpods)
I have an iPod of mine that I loved so much. It has so much like value to me when I was a kid I would stay up and watch tangled on it and I would listen to books and watch the very few episodes of TV that I had on it and what happened was I used it so much it got a little like circle blotch on it and for whatever reason I couldn’t figure out what it was. I thought maybe something had like damaged the screen there but I’m looking at this and I now realized that I basically used it for 10 years straight And wore the battery out so bad that it basically expanded and it never went away so I’m not sure if that’s actually true but eventually the iPod died and we tried to get a battery to replace it but when we did my dad, his iPod died so he borrowed minehe dropped it at an angle and the screen just completely like he dropped it on the corner and the screen just completely like came off and it was dead and I cried for so long afterwards and I still haven’t forgiven him and it’s been like 5+ years probably more around like seven or eight and I still haven’t forgiven him
If you make sure that you have no moisture and your battery is fully discharged you should be safe even if the battery is punctured
Pretty sure the funny Aussie guy DankPods did one of these
I have this same exact ipod. Orange color and everything. It's been I'm my drawer for probably 13 years loaded with songs my 10 year old self loved. This video reminded me of it. Om going to order a old apple charger and see if it still works.
Hope it doesn’t get the spot! The iPod in this video did not have the spot when I got it. It was only when I plugged it in all night that it developed.
Hope it does’t happen!
As a dankpods viewer we call that the black spot. I bought a nano and I’ve been watching for one ever since. It’s terrifying.
yeah I don’t think it is too likely to happen unless you plug it in
but idk - This one was fine and I even shot a short video with it before I had it plugged in all night
With the camera was cool i always wanted one