Brent Hisey, a neurosurgeon in Oklahoma, has owned her for quite awhile. Howie Keefe had her in the 1960’s and he turned her into Miss America. He also licensed her with Cox, a company that made plastic, control line model airplanes, powered by an .049 engine. They had a Miss America P51 and Howie Keefe was on the box. I’ve got one from 1973, still sealed in its box. Probably worth about $200.😊
@@captainaxle438 Baloney. All Packard did was tweak existing RR designs to enable mass production, going to 3rd angle drawings etc. A project shared with RR. Every new model design came from RR UK. US made accessories were sourced where possible (magnetos, spark plugs, some pumps & lines, & the Bendix Stromberg carb etc). Purely to alleviate UK production capacity issues. The thing that made post ramp head Merlins good was the variety of superchargers, drives and intercoolers fitted. They being designed by Stanley Hooker at RR UK. Allison’s V1710 was the only US designed V12, (arguably the core engine being better than the Merlin), handicapped by the lack of a 2nd supercharger stage. If not denied that by the USAAC, the V1710 might have been the glamour engine of the war, not the Merlin. Packard optimized RR designs for mass production and sourced some parts locally. No more. And many parts are interchangeable between the Packard / RR equivalent versions. Tellingly neither manufacturer is considered superior to the other by warbird restorers / operators today.
@Nobody-oc4qb if you read you would know that the British manufacturing was so unprecise that the parts were labeled a,b,and c based on the variable dimensions. The mechanics would then fit the parts that worked the best. American manufacturing eliminated that quality issue and yielded improvements to the engine. Before you attack get some fact. Bear in mind the British factories were under the gun more than the US and had to hurry. American aircraft used castle nuts and cotter pins to lock bolts whereas the British simply hammered the end of the bolt threads to lock them. You lack much information.
Do yourself a favour, look at some early Merlin’s, and revise your bashed threads lie. Or better still call Vintage V12’s (CA) ask for Jose, and tell him your bullsh** stories. He’s got a good sense of humour! Arguing with a LAME with 4 decades in the game, who’s familiar with most Merlin marks, including a Packard, and who has at least worked on one, (me) is rather silly. All your previous post did was confirm what I already said. It’s called “mass production” for a reason, vs multiple suppliers spread all over the UK, supplying the same parts tooled on different machines. And even then, fettling could usually make parts fit. Packard made them on a large scale process line, so even barely trained female workers could assemble sub sections. The only one “lacking much information” (added to your appalling English composition), is you. Next time please reference your replies, as being the baloney they are, that should keep your text to a minimum… :-)
@@captainaxle438 Ok bud, how about you call Jose at Vintage V12's (CA) and tell him your bashed threads vs. castle nuts story. He's got a sense of humor. To avoid being laughed at you might search some RR (not Packard) Merlin photos and get back to us about what fastens EVERY single crankcase cross bolt? Or EVERY single rocker pedestal stud? And many others I could list. Hmmm all castle nuts! Strange that. Even the earliest "ramp head" Merlins and Kestrels had them.. Having assisted stripping a Merlin 23 many years ago, (RR UK) and seen an early Ramp head Merlin apart on the bench, not to mention rebuilding a Meteor (tank Merlin) with a mate, I never once saw a "bashed" thread. All studs/bolts either castellated, spring washered or lock wired or a combination thereof. BTW thanks for expanding ever so slightly on what I already stated on mass production. Or more accurately the well-known advantages of process vs. batch engineering (wartime RR). Albeit only half an explanation and not entirely true either. It was the 3rd angle drawing conversions that enabled such, and that was a joint project between Packard and RR and that is what enabled mass production US style (where I live and still work in aviation BTW). Here's an idea, after you get some help with your English composition, look for some references. That should minimize / eliminate your future posts as its hard to reference BS. 🙂Maybe start with this: "Allied aircraft piston engines" by Graham White. It's somewhat of a basic but good overview, designed for non-engineers. Who have obviously never seen a Merlin up close, or known what they are looking at. Like you!
@@captainaxle438 He is 100% correct kid. Whereas you I would say, are making up stories. (and it appears you are struggling with English). I have personally assisted on the removal and cleaning of both an early ramp head and later Merlin XX, both RR made. I have also helped service a Packard 1650-7. They all have dozens of castellated nuts of various sizes; 5/16", 3/8" etc. (rocker pedestals, crank case cross bolts etc). The remaining studs and bolts all have at least spring & flat washers and many are lock wired. As for your "hammered threads"? Fairy stories I'd say. Perhaps you should google some images of them then retract your "story". I doubt you've ever touched a Merlin but you could at least take a good look at a higher res photo or two... I'm waiting for a link to a picture of one of these "hammered" threads or a RR made Merlin with no castle nuts! Ha 🙂
Lovely picture......but next time leave the music at home....please.
Awesome British aircraft ;)
Rock 'n Roll music mix with the sweet sound of a Merlin? Duh!
The music paid for the production of the video, there are other videos on the channel with Merlin without music
Awesome. Flew it backseat in OKC some years back. Who has the ownership of Miss America these days?
Brent Hisey, a neurosurgeon in Oklahoma, has owned her for quite awhile. Howie Keefe had her in the 1960’s and he turned her into Miss America. He also licensed her with Cox, a company that made plastic, control line model airplanes, powered by an .049 engine. They had a Miss America P51 and Howie Keefe was on the box. I’ve got one from 1973, still sealed in its box. Probably worth about $200.😊
It has a Packard Merlin engine.
Is this a K version or D version?
D, But with many modifications, to make it a racing mustang, for example shorter wings
Isn't it supposed to have a Packard-Merlian?
That engine weren't special until America began manufacturing it with better quality and improvements
@@captainaxle438 Baloney. All Packard did was tweak existing RR designs to enable mass production, going to 3rd angle drawings etc. A project shared with RR. Every new model design came from RR UK. US made accessories were sourced where possible (magnetos, spark plugs, some pumps & lines, & the Bendix Stromberg carb etc). Purely to alleviate UK production capacity issues. The thing that made post ramp head Merlins good was the variety of superchargers, drives and intercoolers fitted. They being designed by Stanley Hooker at RR UK. Allison’s V1710 was the only US designed V12, (arguably the core engine being better than the Merlin), handicapped by the lack of a 2nd supercharger stage. If not denied that by the USAAC, the V1710 might have been the glamour engine of the war, not the Merlin. Packard optimized RR designs for mass production and sourced some parts locally. No more. And many parts are interchangeable between the Packard / RR equivalent versions. Tellingly neither manufacturer is considered superior to the other by warbird restorers / operators today.
@Nobody-oc4qb if you read you would know that the British manufacturing was so unprecise that the parts were labeled a,b,and c based on the variable dimensions. The mechanics would then fit the parts that worked the best. American manufacturing eliminated that quality issue and yielded improvements to the engine. Before you attack get some fact.
Bear in mind the British factories were under the gun more than the US and had to hurry. American aircraft used castle nuts and cotter pins to lock bolts whereas the British simply hammered the end of the bolt threads to lock them. You lack much information.
Do yourself a favour, look at some early Merlin’s, and revise your bashed threads lie. Or better still call Vintage V12’s (CA) ask for Jose, and tell him your bullsh** stories. He’s got a good sense of humour! Arguing with a LAME with 4 decades in the game, who’s familiar with most Merlin marks, including a Packard, and who has at least worked on one, (me) is rather silly. All your previous post did was confirm what I already said. It’s called “mass production” for a reason, vs multiple suppliers spread all over the UK, supplying the same parts tooled on different machines. And even then, fettling could usually make parts fit. Packard made them on a large scale process line, so even barely trained female workers could assemble sub sections. The only one “lacking much information” (added to your appalling English composition), is you. Next time please reference your replies, as being the baloney they are, that should keep your text to a minimum… :-)
@@captainaxle438 Ok bud, how about you call Jose at Vintage V12's (CA) and tell him your bashed threads vs. castle nuts story. He's got a sense of humor. To avoid being laughed at you might search some RR (not Packard) Merlin photos and get back to us about what fastens EVERY single crankcase cross bolt? Or EVERY single rocker pedestal stud? And many others I could list. Hmmm all castle nuts! Strange that. Even the earliest "ramp head" Merlins and Kestrels had them.. Having assisted stripping a Merlin 23 many years ago, (RR UK) and seen an early Ramp head Merlin apart on the bench, not to mention rebuilding a Meteor (tank Merlin) with a mate, I never once saw a "bashed" thread. All studs/bolts either castellated, spring washered or lock wired or a combination thereof. BTW thanks for expanding ever so slightly on what I already stated on mass production. Or more accurately the well-known advantages of process vs. batch engineering (wartime RR). Albeit only half an explanation and not entirely true either. It was the 3rd angle drawing conversions that enabled such, and that was a joint project between Packard and RR and that is what enabled mass production US style (where I live and still work in aviation BTW). Here's an idea, after you get some help with your English composition, look for some references. That should minimize / eliminate your future posts as its hard to reference BS. 🙂Maybe start with this: "Allied aircraft piston engines" by Graham White. It's somewhat of a basic but good overview, designed for non-engineers. Who have obviously never seen a Merlin up close, or known what they are looking at. Like you!
@@captainaxle438 He is 100% correct kid. Whereas you I would say, are making up stories. (and it appears you are struggling with English). I have personally assisted on the removal and cleaning of both an early ramp head and later Merlin XX, both RR made. I have also helped service a Packard 1650-7. They all have dozens of castellated nuts of various sizes; 5/16", 3/8" etc. (rocker pedestals, crank case cross bolts etc). The remaining studs and bolts all have at least spring & flat washers and many are lock wired. As for your "hammered threads"? Fairy stories I'd say. Perhaps you should google some images of them then retract your "story". I doubt you've ever touched a Merlin but you could at least take a good look at a higher res photo or two... I'm waiting for a link to a picture of one of these "hammered" threads or a RR made Merlin with no castle nuts! Ha 🙂
Tone the rock music down next time. The Merlin’s song is what we came to hear…
Hi, you can watch this other video that is without music ua-cam.com/video/dsJpl4ItwHI/v-deo.html