King-Song 18L 2022 Review - Amazing All Rounder
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- Опубліковано 20 лют 2022
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I wish we had more wheels like that: focus on reliability and safety, instead of eye-catching features and huge size.
Thanks for revisiting old wheels too, it means a lot for many of us who like that category better
FWIW I am a very fat rider at 260lb and 18XL has worked great for me in my first 100 miles. I live in a hilly area and haven’t gotten any overpowered warnings. I also try to ride at above 35% battery. I don’t use power pads and definitely am a more mellow rider. I don’t overlean etc. My max speed on it has been 28mph but am usually cruising closer to 17-22mph.
Someone had said I’d get the urge to get a faster wheel and cruise in the 30s in no time. But that hasn’t happened. This wheel truly is good enough for my use cases.
Anyways this comment is dedicated to other “heavy” riders. If I were you I’d probably avoid going full lean on anything (maybe Sherman??) and from that perspective you may as well go with the 18XL. It’s such a smooth ride and it can support up to 300lb according to eWheels. Of course the more buffer there is between your weight and the max, the better. But this wheel hasn’t yelled at me yet
Yeah, many ppl say you'll "grow out" of slower wheels in a month, but here I am, at 180 pounds, and happy with a V8F one year later.
Thanks for this comment, I'm also a heavy boi, so it is good to know this wheel can handle us. How much range do you get out of it if you don't mind me asking
Thanks, Adam. Another pro you didn't mention was the price. Not bargain basement, but quite reasonable. And it's in stock.
I have a master and a lynx but still bought a KS18L with the 2200w motor. I take the TGV with it, 13km to go to the train station from my home, it is so smooth... You cruise at 40 to 45km/h and just enjoy the ride. When riding my master, I cruise like 20kpj above that but it's not the same pleasure.... Really, being so low to the ground, so light, so well put together.... It is an experience on its own.
I just upgraded from V8F I got in August 2021 to 18XL V2, which comes with spiked pedals and mini-power pads (protrusions at front and back of upper pads). Pedal height is about 15 cm (manual states 16 cm), with a slight angle. With the increase from 16 kg to 24 kg, the tire flexes more over small bumps, resulting in a smoother ride (vs V8F).
Adam,
Excellent video and content! Really liked the category breakdown throughout the video. Awesome backwards riding on the stairs!!
Clocked 4000 km on my 18L not so long ago. Been riding (and falling) on it through whole winter. If I'd have to point out any issues after that mileage it would be that trolley handle having quite the opposite issue to yours, have to wiggle it to be able to close it. Also sometimes when you'll close it too... "accurately" the lift switch just won't turn the motor on once again, so gotta inspect that. Apart from that there's some water filling my front light probably from the bottom so I gotta check seals. Other than that, no issues at all. I also hope for new revision of 18L/XL with slight improvements, because for now... if I'd upgrade my 18L then it'd be only 18XL.
Awesome video and thanks for sharing.. Your eyes and face though when you played that horn at the start lmao.. that was priceless lol.. you should include that horn with your intro moving forward hehe
Thanks a lot for the review, this help to choose the 18 XL as my first wheel, I been riding for 2 week ( I’m still a noob 😅) but is great for commuting, just need to se how make it more safe to ride on the rain ( now is raining season in Norway 😒). Love your content 💪🏼
I have 9000km on my first KS18XL I broke the inner shell after 8000kms with a lot of offroad, after its replacement (100€ and labor) I decided to sell it, the new owner is at 11000 kms without problems. 2 months after selling it, I missed it so much that I bought another one 😆😅 (I have a Sherman, MSP, ks16s and ks18xl)
I have an 18XL with over 15.000 km on the clock. My trolley handle has the same problem as yours but it resulted in dropping the wheel several stair cases in a row. I tought I destroyed the wheel but only the handle took minor damage, what really surprised me. Once I broke the inner shell. I have now the white one which is more sturdy. From the outside it is still black. Newest problem is that the handle doesn't stay in its lower position which makes the wheel hard to cary. Also I had to replace all screws because the stock ones are garbage. But over all I am really impressed with the quality and the reliability of the wheel. On tire changes I noticed water getting inside the wheel, but it can't reach important parts like connectors or even the mainboard. I used the wheel in monsoonal rains which killed my IP rated headlamp but not my wheel. With beeps and tiltback this wheel is pretty much foolproof unless you really try. Still one of the best and maybe the best all around wheel.
Thanks for your advise... I'm about to clik the buy it now button to get mine... =D
@@yannolet28 You certainly won't make a mistake with this. Still, you should also consider the Inmotion V12 if it's available in your region.
What you think of Inmotion V11, In Canada no more KS 18 XL. I am now looking at the V11. V12 is available for 100$ buck more then the V11 but no suspension, And does V12 have trouble... seller say this : TEST EVERY V12 WE RECEIVE USING INMOTION'S OFFICIAL TESTING PROCEDURE. WE WILL NOT SELL A V12 THAT DOES NOT PASS THEIR TESTING PROCESS** ??? So I am wondering why? Hahah
@@yannolet28 Yes the V12 has had problems but Inmotion fixed them with a new mainboard. But the V11 had its flaws too. Despite that, both are great wheels. V11 is more for comfort and V12 more for performance.
@@MaximilianGros I had a hard life , pushibg my body over his limit all the time...I might go with one equipped with suspension to save my old knuckles hahaha. Review and feedback on the v11 seem not that bad. And I have to worry about money... V11 with suspension and deal breaker seem the thing. Do you know anything or have any tips I should be aware with the v11?
Just picked up a used 18XL for my commute after one too many times of my Onewheel throwing me on the ground. Still getting the feel as this is my first EUC but I couldn't agree more that this is a solid learner wheel.
I think the 16x is still one of the best wheels out there under 31 mph . ✌️
Keep it wheel ✌️
As a new 18L owner I really appreciate your work on recent videos about this model. These vids just justified my purchase. :) Thanks!
As for acceleration and hill climbing: are you still around 75 kg, right?
My first wheel was 18XL what a really good wheel great range built well ‘ old school wheel
Hi there! What was your pick after 18xl, and what was the reason of changing it? :)
I am interested in that too. If some day I buy my first wheel it would be 18l or 18xl, I watched lots of reviews of different wheels and come in conclusion that its one of the best wheels: reliable, sturdy, good range, good size(not too small or too big) just perfect ;)
@@AndriySaychuk just wanted to go faster mate lol 😂
Awe some and thank you for sharing Adam 😊 👍🏻🙏🏻
I really appreciate it, thank You :) I wanted to buy this 18L, but then I opted for the 16XS.. yes, not the 16X, but that was my budget :D and I am still waiting for it :)) I can't wait... and in the meanwhile I am "eating" all the videos about EUCs :)))
Why did you choose the 16XS over the 18L? I'm facing the same decision
@@MlleEntoxya The main reason was just because the shop told me that they were getting the 16XS first (but I am still waiting due to delays of the seller), but then I also thought that the 16XS might be more fun, once I get used to it - and it would be my first wheel :D but for sure the 18L is more smooth and more like a cruiser, as Adam also said :) it depends on what you prefer :)
I got the 16-XS as well. I picked it because it was in stock, and I could get it right away. It has been a blast! I have added a second battery so I could double the range. I use it for fun and as a commuter (10.5 to 13.0 miles to work, depending on route because of traffic and time of day. ) I've put on 1430 miles in 10 months.
Superb wheel! Still can't replace my 18xl with new wheel because there is nothing that will be better overall.
thanks so much for your videos , they've helped me a lot to fall for to start riding with this wheel 😃😃😃, il'll be my first wheel , from Belgium , friendly
Considering the 18xl and the s18 are going for very similar prices now a days, which one would you recommend for casual commuting?
I love my Sherman. I also ordered a S20. But I came from onewheels and my XR I treated horribly for two plus years and put almost 11,000 miles on it before it finally broke and it's fixable. Says something about the quality of control of them compared to EUCs.
Glad you are taking this direction. We need quality and quality control before going to hyper fast wheels and I think at least Kingsong is trying.
I've never driven this wheel but it seems like awesome wheel for the price point!!!
I have my eye on the S-18. Would you still say the other two (18L and 16) are a better choice?
Hi, what version did you try? The one with the 2000w engine or the 2200w engine?
Regarding riding down stairs - it really depends on rider weight. I've ridden an 18L down a set of stairs *every day* for 6+ months while commuting! 40PSI, rider weight 70kg. The rim ain't going to save me if I bottom out, but *touch wood* it hasn't happened yet 🙂
As an interested euc entry, i decided to look back at such wheels because they suit my interests: sub-70 lbs, good portability, commuting speed/range. My wishlist in addition to my interests would be a 3” tire, ul and ip ratings for safety, suspension (older knees) thus the coming s19 is on my radar. Back to reality, i am considering an entry so the learning curve is a consideration, crashing/injury to me and the euc, but i don’t want a fleet of PEV’s. One to buy, learn, ride, and decent euc for when i’m beyond a beginner (not adventure riding, just comfort commuting). WW, please review the more boring commuters euc’s that one could carry up 2 or 3 staircases.
Thanks, Adam, I was actually considering it as a replacement to v10f - can I please ask you what are the power-pad you are using? thanks!
Hey Julien. Did you find out about the powerpads?
we don't need IP rating. Just the manufacturer to put the effort in for water resistance. IP ratings are expensive. I'd be happy with a manufacturer guarantee. May sound weird, but as a OnePlus (phone) user for multiple generations all without an IP rating (well they do now), but you can see that the manufacturer still put the effort in.
how much does it cost for an ip rating if you know it bro?
@@laniakeafilament2730 it's not a static amount.
The way I understand it is that the manufacturer has to buy specific equipment to test their stuff in order to get an IP rating. That equipment is expensive and when your margins are already pretty slim, I doubt they would just eat the cost of the equipment.
They would increase the cost of their wheels. Which personally I'd rather they just put some basic waterproofing on the wheel and let it be.
@@InsanitiesBrother heys sky! ah i see. its not a static amount. yeah sounds expensive, and raise the margin cost. ballpark on average how much do you think it cost tho for an IP rating? 1 million usd? 100k usd??
2100 urban miles on my 18XL, only issue I have at this time is a over sensitive lift switch that I don't trust to not engage at the wrong time, so I disabled it. This can be a pain when getting off on public transportation as I have to turn the wheel off to ascend/descend stairs. I will open the wheel later this year to do an inspection, cleaning and possible adjustment to see if I can make the lift switch function to my satisfaction again.
For my usage I probably would have been better off with the 18L as I might enjoy the lighter weight more but I can't complain at all about the range ability, so that is kind of a tough trade off in choices. I don't want a screen but I would like a battery level indicator like the V10F etc. Overall I am quite happy with the 18XL and will be keeping it for the foreseeable future.
did you manage to fix the lift switch at all?
@@francoismurrell4604 I haven't gotten around to opening the unit up. Sorry.
The kill switch will never ever engage if the wheel is moving. Try to move your wheel and lifting it up once above 1 ou 2km/h, it won't disengage, you can reactivate it
@@TheThunderwars This is wrong, the wheel will in fact disengage at very low speed if the switch gets triggered, it has happened to me multiple times and has caused me to fall. That is why I disabled it.
@@kmg501 do you have the v2 version ? The v1 has a very bad switch if I remember correctly and I don't know this one.
hi, im from spain, excellent video, you can see that you enjoy your wheels a lot, I have a question, I am a heavy user of 110 kg and I learned a 14 d which cut me off and shot me, well normal since it is a lot of weight for the wheel that is small and I was thinking between the Kingston 18 L and the XL I think the difference between these two is only the battery, right? Could the fact that the XL's battery is larger prevent it from being low and I demand a little more from it to be more sure that it doesn't cut me off? Now I was looking at the kidston 18S but I'm not much off road, I'm more of a city. Is it worth making the investment for the Kingston 18S? Does this wheel require more maintenance and care? What can you say to me? Thanks in advance and a big hug.
> Could the fact that the XL's battery is larger prevent it from being low and I demand a little more from it to be more sure that it doesn't cut me off?
Yes :)
Thank you!
not 2019.. 18L started in 2018 summer
So hard to get wheels in New Zealand 😢 this and inmotion v11 are really the only options we seem to have… Think I’m going to go with the v11
Hi. I am looking for the Kingsong KS-18L and saw the V2 version. What have you updated? What is new?
Lay-down no, prefer to stand, I could sit I suppose. Oh for the review :-) Android person, I prefer EUC World. I only have actually ridden the wheels I own, really must hook up with some others to try some different wheels. Train tracking on the 16X, hate that, still love the wheel.
Getting close to 50k Adam 💯👍
Did you mention range at some point or did I miss it?
Hey Adam, who are these pads from? thx in advance.
Old video I know, but where do you get the leg grippers from?
Just bought a 16x pretty excited. Its my first EUC also.
The 16x is a brilliant wheel. Had mine 18 months and no sign of an upgrade
@@jonathandunleavy-colgan8876 what kind a mileage until i need to replace the engine and batteries. Like4-5k miles?
@@seewaldsja AGES! A friend has one with 4K miles on it. Only had tyre changes and one new outer shell. I’d worry about learning to ride it first Steven. I’ve done 1.8k miles my tyre is good for the same agin (slimed). One bit of advice, when learning, pad ur shell. Even with bubble wrap. I didn’t and after 6 months the shell and foot plates were battered
@@jonathandunleavy-colgan8876 i got the shell pad free for the holiday sale.
@@seewaldsja what’s a shell pad???
meanwhile 7100 km, bought with 6400 km as a heavy weight-beginner, everything works great,
Best pads for KingSong 18l/18XL ?
Why would you not jump this wheel? Will it cutoff on landing? About durability on this wheel... I chrashed this wheel A LOT 😅 only thing giving up are the brass inserts for the Shell and that's An easy fix. I love this wheel. But i would like to start jumping.
Good review.
Maybe you can helping me out I switched from a Ninebot one e+ was driving with 37 psi now I have troubles to find the correct psi, for riding at the wood paths, gravel and field trails my weight 73kg
Thanks for the review.
I made the choice of this wheel last year at a good price and don t have any regret. It s a good wheel and Moreover, the 2021 release were not for me.
Just a question because i haven t seen you going down stairs on this vidéo and that is something i would like to do in a next future. You don’t recommand it with this wheel?
he talks about it at 8:00, he does not recommend it.
@@LaMereACaniche thank you
PS. Tribit stormbox micro I can highly recommend for a small bluetooth speaker.
What is mpg mph other notable trival competition of power why can't you seat unicycles pedal charge?
How can I find those power-pads?
I saw two unlocked scooters in the video. It must be a safe city you live in?
Cool! 😎
Czesc Adam and greetings from Ukraine!
Your choice: v11 or ks18xl or ks18l?
I know these are very different rides but very interested in your oppinion :)
I would say 18XL for range, V11 for comfort+range, 18L will be useless compared to those two 1500wh batteries...
@@richardsulc183 great!! They are both more or less same price in my country (KS being only 200Eur cheeper), this is what made me thinking v11 or ks18xl
I couldn't decide so bought both. 18XL feels a lot more responsive. The v11 is much more comfortable
@@AndriySaychuk where are you from?
@@richardsulc183 Ukraine Kyiv ✌️
Goodnight. Sorry to write in Portuguese. Someone can help me? I bought a second hand kingsong 18XL 2200W with 1500 km and updated the firmware to version V2.18. Now I am afraid that it is not for this unicycle and that it is not safe with this version. Can anyone tell me if it's less secure and if I should try to switch to another version. Thank you very much. Greetings from Portugal
everyone doing s20 videos, and talking about Master.
adam: here is the king song 18L. a 3 year old wheel. XD
ahha its cool. tho i wish they made NEW wheels that is in this category, but with smart BMS, safer, IP rating, built in GPS tracker(you just put in your own sim card), built in speaker and mic, and video cam so when someone steals it you can take pictures of them, and talk to them like hey!!! gimme back my wheel bro!! works great as proof to cops, great lights, hall-less sensors, keycode, etc. this will usher in and open up euc to a whole new segment of ppl looking for a sexy, hyper portable, personal electric vehicle. imho. too much to ask? 20 years too soon? no demand or interest? time will tell.
Do you recommend the 18 or 18xl for my first euc?
Yes
🤷🤣
This EUC is ok to buy for a beginner in 2024?
Only issue is it has an axle that might break after several thousand kilometers. Check out my latest “do not buy these EUCs” for further advice :)
Any chance for a MCM5 review ? :p
He's reviewed both v1 and v2. I recently bought a V2 and wanted to watch them again but they seem to be gone.
New video about 16x, maybe a comparison between 16x and 18xl
What kind of knee pads are those?
😎⚡❤️
Nice. I am searching for my second wheel because my KS14D is too sore already xD
What mobile App are u using btw? Keep up the good work, u did indeed let me start thinking about driving a EUC. And here i am, few weeks into it and u love it. THX
@@renekober9197 on android EucWorld and on ios darknes bot 😊❤️
What year is this
Nobody links the side pads, i search several videos, nothing!!!!!
How does the 18xl compare to the V12
V12 is a much powerful wheel, 16inch = way better torque. 18XL is a 40km/h cruiser, V12 is a 55km/h+ rocket. Range will be probably similar.
They have about same range, 18xl 20kmph slower than v12, but 18xl is around 10kg less weight.
18xl cheaper and has bigger 18" diameter wheel, v12 has wider 3" wheel.
18xl packed with waaaaay better handle.
18xl older wheel, way older, so almost every issue that it had in the past is already fixed by now, and it is ready to be used out the box, where v12 has cutout motherboard issues yet.
Plus, there is two options 18l or 18xl - depending on your needs.
103rd!!
KS18L is solid but outdated (4 years), weak performance, small battery, thin tire, bad lights, no seat option. And very high price - more than Rs.
It definitelly should be upgraded, but probably wont.
For today Rs is much better choice, offers more for same price.
Nie wiem jak was ale mnie bardzo bolą lędźwie po motocyklu przez co nie jestem wstanie na nim jeździć.
Przesiądź się na monocykl.
Kingsong should seriously consider creating new version of the S18 and 18L(18XL), with the same shell, but with a more powerful motor, and a higher top speed.
For example, a Kingsong S18 ''V2'' with a 2500 or 2800 W motor, and with the same 1100 Wh battery, but with a max speed of 60 or even 70 km/h would sell like crazy.
Also, a Kinsong 18XL, with a 2500 or 2800 W motor, with a top speed of 60 or 70 kph, with the 1550 Wh battery, would be a great success.
Smaller battery size cost less, and weight less, and are great for city erands. Both would become competitor of the Inmotion V12.
Engineering would be simple, both wheel shell are already designed....
You need a larger battery with more powerful motors for it to be able to handle voltage sag without a cutout