Just imagine... your flying through space... and suddenly billions of rounds of aa guns that missed during the battle of loum suddenly find you in intrasolar space and dust your ass.
@@scorpionvenom27 Colony proper? Probably no, just shielding from micro-meteors and solar radiation would make outer hull extra THICC for them to be safe-ish in long perioid Problem is basically everything else, people doing EVA stuff, more fragile stuff like solar pannels, unarmored transport ships, unmanned stuff
A proper military would have some sort of self-destruct in place after X distance/time, you'd still have to worry about the micro fragments but it would be something. We are however talking about the people who thought lining up for a sail age line battle and slugging it out was a grand idea.
I guess they would have already warned civilian traffic to clear the area before such a fight. I suppose though if you were in the immediate area, your spacecraft would be in immediate danger to stray shots.
Its not based on Jutland at all. This is far more destructive and not inconclusive the same way Jutland was. It draws more heavily on the IJN concept of the "decisive battle", exemplified by Tsushima
.... 4:00 char shoots the bridge.... Ship blows up... Yea ships worthless once the bridge is gone Proceeds to destroy a turret.... Whole ship blows up. I know turrets are vital and all, but who knew they were that vital.
Works that way for a lot of real life naval ships, not to the degree of wrecking the entire ship but for missile turrets and gun batteries you'd be taking a chunk out of the ship just from all of those explosives self destructing.
"char shoots the bridge.... Ship blows up... " true, nonsense. "Proceeds to destroy a turrett.... Whole ship blows up" the way Tanks are destroyed by planes.
Not necessarily In SBY Garmillas had total victory over UN fleet, with only 1 flagship retreating and Yukikaze going out in a suicide attack, but luckily taking down with it another Garmillas warship. Battle of Loum, personally, reminds me of one particularly huge naval battle. Biggest one by many standards-Battle of Jutland, that took place during WW1. Very big scale, importance of moving deeper into enemies’s territory and a pretty inconclusive outcome. And also, Battle of Pluto had different goals in mind, unlike the one of Loum. Not going to spoil the whole tragedy.
Classic GUNDAM loophole: "let's put in old tehnology versus the Mobile Suit, which runs on an infinite power supply and see how they fare." It's a heavy-handed one-sided way for the writer to say "it wins, because I said so."
this was during the early days of the one year war when the MS first saw action in war; the origin series better portrays the pros and cons of MS during this time period (before the federation completed the gundam) with that said 1. it's space, i'm honestly surprised there wasn't something outside fighters than could take advantage of 3D space, spaceships in gundam for the most part act as if they're on water and not a 3d plane with zero gravity 2. thrusters did have finite output and the zeon made dedicated maintenance vessels for refueling and restocking ammo 3. Char's commando build had thruster limiters removed which would make it harder for a normal person to use effectively and would put extensive strain if used improperly of course it's still a cool show about mechs being OP but considering the technology jump MS brought to the battle field; the closest IRL comparison would be how far germany pushed their war machines during WW2, especially in the war they had a huge technology leap over many of its neighboring countries and then much like the fate of zeon, the allies caught up and surpassed germany in technology and won through a number of decisive battles and sheer man power / supply drain
None of those explanations give much thought about how a pilot is supposed to breathe in space, or where do the MS stores enough propellant to zip around like they do; they may as well have put in giant magical fairies powered by a forsaken child instead: the end result is the same. Mecha shows are great, but heavy-handed wins are lame.
@@UnlimitedFlyers It's not as heavy-handed as you think. The entire point of the Battle of Loum is that the Federation fleets were baited into a trap and outmaneuvered. Admittedly, Igloo does a VERY poor job of portraying Loum. The Origin series has a much better portrayal of the battle, showing the actual preparations and strategy used by Zeon to completely blind-side the Federation. The mobile suits were a big deal, but they were only ever a part of the bigger picture. Origin does a pretty good job of outlining the actual fleet maneuvers that were the core of Zeon's victory.
@@UnlimitedFlyers The mobility of mobile suits is 100% determined by which show they are in. The original series had them move more like people, but they weren't fast. IGLOO has them zip around like hornets. 08th MS team and Stardust Memory has them lumber around like buildings, and really need to charge up their thruster packs. I suggest a different series than IGLOO if you want more realistic movement from mobile suits.
@@ash18001 Nope, an English dub DOES exist for it, minus the Gravity Front, it's just really hard to find. It's also EXTREMELY scuffed so, it's an acquired taste.
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Just imagine... your flying through space... and suddenly billions of rounds of aa guns that missed during the battle of loum suddenly find you in intrasolar space and dust your ass.
Would those scratch a colony?
@@scorpionvenom27 Colony proper? Probably no, just shielding from micro-meteors and solar radiation would make outer hull extra THICC for them to be safe-ish in long perioid
Problem is basically everything else, people doing EVA stuff, more fragile stuff like solar pannels, unarmored transport ships, unmanned stuff
Sir Isaac Newton is the Deadliest Sunovabitch in Space!
A proper military would have some sort of self-destruct in place after X distance/time, you'd still have to worry about the micro fragments but it would be something.
We are however talking about the people who thought lining up for a sail age line battle and slugging it out was a grand idea.
I guess they would have already warned civilian traffic to clear the area before such a fight. I suppose though if you were in the immediate area, your spacecraft would be in immediate danger to stray shots.
to be fair in giherns greed a few fighters fixing the MS in place while giving fire support from those ships is actually quite effective
Its based on the largest fleet combat in WW1, Battle of Jutland, there never was an engagement larger ever again.
I think it's this one because it's based on the beginning of the ww2 era of airplanes.
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Its not based on Jutland at all. This is far more destructive and not inconclusive the same way Jutland was. It draws more heavily on the IJN concept of the "decisive battle", exemplified by Tsushima
Feels more like Midway or the Marianas Turkey Shoot to me. All those Fedi ships remind me of how flammable Zeros are when they take only a few hits.
man this is so much better than origin's loum
Cause it tell its canon way than origin way of retelling.
.... 4:00 char shoots the bridge.... Ship blows up...
Yea ships worthless once the bridge is gone
Proceeds to destroy a turret.... Whole ship blows up. I know turrets are vital and all, but who knew they were that vital.
it was that vital, ships ammo storage are directly under the turret, specially a battleship
Works that way for a lot of real life naval ships, not to the degree of wrecking the entire ship but for missile turrets and gun batteries you'd be taking a chunk out of the ship just from all of those explosives self destructing.
"char shoots the bridge.... Ship blows up... " true, nonsense.
"Proceeds to destroy a turrett.... Whole ship blows up" the way Tanks are destroyed by planes.
The hms hood was sunk when it ammo for front turret was hit which cause the bow of ship to spilt.
Thanks I actually learned something ty
The real Battle of Loum from original UC timeline, not the Origins....the true prequel of 1979 lies in MS Igloo Eps 1-2
Is the Luom inspired by Battle of Pluto in Space Battleship Yamato?
Not necessarily
In SBY Garmillas had total victory over UN fleet, with only 1 flagship retreating and Yukikaze going out in a suicide attack, but luckily taking down with it another Garmillas warship.
Battle of Loum, personally, reminds me of one particularly huge naval battle. Biggest one by many standards-Battle of Jutland, that took place during WW1.
Very big scale, importance of moving deeper into enemies’s territory and a pretty inconclusive outcome.
And also, Battle of Pluto had different goals in mind, unlike the one of Loum. Not going to spoil the whole tragedy.
Classic GUNDAM loophole: "let's put in old tehnology versus the Mobile Suit, which runs on an infinite power supply and see how they fare." It's a heavy-handed one-sided way for the writer to say "it wins, because I said so."
this was during the early days of the one year war when the MS first saw action in war; the origin series better portrays the pros and cons of MS during this time period (before the federation completed the gundam)
with that said 1. it's space, i'm honestly surprised there wasn't something outside fighters than could take advantage of 3D space, spaceships in gundam for the most part act as if they're on water and not a 3d plane with zero gravity 2. thrusters did have finite output and the zeon made dedicated maintenance vessels for refueling and restocking ammo 3. Char's commando build had thruster limiters removed which would make it harder for a normal person to use effectively and would put extensive strain if used improperly
of course it's still a cool show about mechs being OP but considering the technology jump MS brought to the battle field; the closest IRL comparison would be how far germany pushed their war machines during WW2, especially in the war they had a huge technology leap over many of its neighboring countries and then much like the fate of zeon, the allies caught up and surpassed germany in technology and won through a number of decisive battles and sheer man power / supply drain
None of those explanations give much thought about how a pilot is supposed to breathe in space, or where do the MS stores enough propellant to zip around like they do; they may as well have put in giant magical fairies powered by a forsaken child instead: the end result is the same.
Mecha shows are great, but heavy-handed wins are lame.
@@UnlimitedFlyers It's not as heavy-handed as you think. The entire point of the Battle of Loum is that the Federation fleets were baited into a trap and outmaneuvered. Admittedly, Igloo does a VERY poor job of portraying Loum. The Origin series has a much better portrayal of the battle, showing the actual preparations and strategy used by Zeon to completely blind-side the Federation. The mobile suits were a big deal, but they were only ever a part of the bigger picture. Origin does a pretty good job of outlining the actual fleet maneuvers that were the core of Zeon's victory.
@@UnlimitedFlyers The mobility of mobile suits is 100% determined by which show they are in. The original series had them move more like people, but they weren't fast. IGLOO has them zip around like hornets. 08th MS team and Stardust Memory has them lumber around like buildings, and really need to charge up their thruster packs. I suggest a different series than IGLOO if you want more realistic movement from mobile suits.
@@f45411watch the first battle as Amuro left earth Gundam attacked from above and there’s nothing the Zeon fleets can do.
howd you watch the igloo dub? cant find anything about it
It's all English sub
@@ash18001 Nope, an English dub DOES exist for it, minus the Gravity Front, it's just really hard to find. It's also EXTREMELY scuffed so, it's an acquired taste.
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4k?
There was no 4K broadcast or technology when it was released.
Richochet is better