Thanks for this! For sure editing is faster in Vegas, by a mile! But, once you get your ways around Resolve, as with anything else, it does become easier and faster. Vegas is very intuitive, Resolve is very powerful. For the most part, Vegas takes you easier there, but Resolve will take you further. Vegas does have a clear workflow, Resolve is like a thing of itself - basically each feature requires a different way to learn it. Vegas could definitely use some of Resolve stability and GPU integration, Resolve could definitely become more straightforward. Could these combine somehow? ;) ResolVega editor! :)
I use both of them. I started with Sony Vegas way back when (around 2012) and have done many videos with it. Some of them were very complex. I just know how it works. That said, there are some great features in Resolve. Basically, I use Resolve mostly for color grading and speciality purposes. But I like the Vegas timeline editing better because I know it.
Yes, I was the greatest user that Vegas had and it got me a TV contract, but once it got brought by( Magix) it been buggy. However, I used it on a Mac with bootcamp. It was so smooth just like what DaVinci is today. Never have I ever thought about crashing just work flow techniques... as a matter of fact as DaVinci was developing it was adding Vegas like features and surpass them.
One thing you mentioned is the inability to drag images around on screen in Vegas. That's because you're using Track Motion or Clip Pan/Crop instead of the Picture-In-Picture FX.
saying that he has edited over 1000 videos in vegas and not knowing that is embarrasing
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Funny... I just found out this 2 days ago, when having a look into vegas again after a few years.. tis was also anoying, until i accidently use PiP Fx :D
We use Premiere for Titles and his After Effect compatibility, Vegas for very complexe productions with audio video sync. and Resolve for the final color correction.
Wow! You expressed pretty much exactly everything I love about Vegas, bro! I’ve tried most every NLE’s and I keep coming back to Vegas. I don’t like the crashing in Vegas but I’m ok with saving often. 😀
@@ComposingGloves I'm still on 9! 16 just kept crashing or going in retard mode where everything just freezes saying something like Unresponsive on top and if I click anywhere while it's search for a reason to live, the whole screen becomes white and I have to force quit. So I went back to my old version 9. Thank you for this comparison, I'm trying to learn Resolve after 20 years in Vegas, it's hard.
20:26 and 21:51 just use the picture in picture fx in vegas you can add it to the single event, the timeline or the entire project 23:11 Reduce the font size from 48 to a smaller number then you can ctrl+drag to make new copies anytime you want to make new text with the font and all other effects
Yea, I used Movie Studio then Vegas. I just enjoy the workflow compared to Resolve. The little things you mentioned. To each their own, this editing process just makes more sense to me.
To open an existing project in Resolve, click on the icon that looks like a house (lower right). That will open the project manager. As for those little Vegas files, those are of course just storing metadata on the project. Resolve does the same thing but in its proprietary database (stored in Program Data I think) and really in a way is cleaner than Vegas' approach, though admittedly less visible. I totally agree with your discussion of zooming the timeline. Vegas wins for sure. Likewise with having overlapping clips automatically crossfade (though that has to be enabled in Vegas). One thing not mentioned - in Vegas, but not Resolve, you can open multiple instances of the app -- work one project while another is rendering, etc.
@@arthurkr222 IDK, have never tried it. Maybe the timeline can be stored in the clipboard. But in this video I thought I understood one of the comments to be that he has to close Resolve completely to open a new or different project. That is what I was referencing.
You can actually have a Vegas project of a short bit of your main video that needs heaps of editing. Save it. Then have your main video open and drag the Vegas file into your project. It will bring in the small section that is actually a Vegas project itself. You can then leave both instances of Vegas open. Edit the small section and it will change in the timeline of your main project. If I am making a big video with 5 or more sections, I make the sections separately then fresh those Vegas files into my main project
@@markroxley9001 I've used that embedded project in Vegas and it can be pretty useful. (Where it can get thrown off is if you change the duration of one of the sub projects.) In Resolve, the closest equivalent that I'm aware of is using multiple timeline in a single project where each of those timelines feeds into a "master" timeline.
Question are all Vegas Pros like this? Tip for DaVinci Resolve: See those icons with the magnifying glass, to the right of them is a slider. To increase the sound in the wave forms, hover you mouse icon around the middle area, until it changes it's shape, like a triangle, then ya can move the waves up or down to change the volume (Most of the sound action is on Fairlight). (I am sorry that I didn't find out which shortcut keys for stuff, like the data zoom).
Been using resolve for like, a year now and I can barely get videos out.. Now I want Song Vegas because it would be so fast. Thank you, I was hesitant to buy Vegas but now I'm spending my savings on it thanks to you. Take a sub
@@Reyfox1 It's not a tasty word for my tongue to say Magix Vegas instead of Sony Vegas also the software is known for Sony Vegas so if you asked any veteran on PC that have moved to mobile phones and forgot the PC he definitely will know Sony Vegas but wont ever know whats Magix.. Btw, anyway it's the best editing software for me♥
@@Asim112 in the Vegas forum, many new people still call it "Sony". It was known as Sony up to 4 years ago. From VP14, it's Vegas Creative. But it's still my favorite editing software too!
Thanks for the comparsion. I like to hear more about these differences: multicam editing (Vegas slows down when you have many videotracks with fx, even when only the topmost is visible..), timeline playback performance (Vegas drop frames at every hard cut because of buffering or something. How smooth is this in Resolve?), what about 4k editing, does it need proxy? - Editline scrubbing speed with native h264 1080 files, rendering h264 or h265 at 20mbps quality comparsion, (i use frameserver +ripbot for quality output)... How is preview window drawing? I Vegas with my 50p footage and 50Hz monitor i cannot get perfectly smooth motion, often see screen tearing, stuttering, etc. Edius was perfect in this regard. Tracking object+follow that with a text..... You mean, real world usage :) I use Vegas, but look for another NLE, because with my i7 16GB and 1660Ti card i feel i drive my sportcar in a forest :(
I am an absolute amateur but whatever I edited I did it in Vegas. I started to work with DaVinci now but I'll just probably pay for Vegas at the end. Simply things like automatic crossfades are just more complicated in DaVinci.
Hmmm, I agree with many (most) of you comparisons, but not the audio FX discussion. First, I believe in Resolve's Edit tab, if you click on an audio track, the Inspector does have basic audio tools available. And re FX, I think if you open Resolve's Effects Library, any audio FX can be dropped on the timeline audio and adjusted in the Inspector. From my experience, it's actually pretty easy. I've worked a fair amount with both apps, and for audio FX, I actually think Resolve is more straight forward. Details aside, interesting video. (As an aside, my understanding is Vegas started out as primarily an audio editing app.)
Compare to Vegas, Resolve is total crap. It would take one at least 3 times longer to make the same video in DR than it takes them in Vegas. When it comes to color correction, than Vegas 19 now is not worse than DR. At least in Vegas, one can see in the Vectroscope very clearly when they oversaturate image or not. Resolve's Vectroscope is just crap. And if one has 30 clips and needs to crossfade them, in DR it's a nightmare, because, of course you don't know the time when and how long that crossfade has to be, you want to see it on in your video, and Vegas is just perfect for that. The only shame is that it's not aval. on Linux. And that's the only reason to consider DR over Vegas. Love your video, thanks a lot.
I use Vegas since version 3 and I try to force myself on davinci every now and then. I just can't get use with the editing flow. For some reason though I am always disappointed with the rendering in Vegas. I never know what codec would be best and the settings. I feel like davinci is doing a much better job in that area and with better image quality.
Hey great video - what does the workflow look like when editing in Vegas and adding the finishing touches in DaVinci (i.e colour correction). Would you have to export the finished track in vegas then re-export or is there a better way?
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One of the biggest advantages of VEGAS over many NLEs is that you can change project resolution, frame rate and progress/interlaced field order anytime you want! And the timeline cursor moving by Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Mouse wheel is awesome also.
In resolve you have to press the home button on the bottom right to open a new project. You can even have multiple projects open at the same time and switch between them by clicking the project title above the preview window. It's cool cos you can copy and paste between projects.
To trim ripple you just have to do it with the ripple edit tool. More then that, if you want to be really precise, you can trim and tipple trim with the third curser that will ripple and nuge on the singke frame level
If you take the time to learn Resolve's way...you have a universe of power. If you take the time to learn Vegas's way...you have a universe of power. Choose your path and deal with it.
Well, I found using Vegas that videos often get corrupted and the program crashes semi often. Hoping resolve will not have this problem and will also over deliver on features that Sony Vegas doesn't have.
in Davinci resolve you can do new project withaout closing - right bottom, and next to the options icon - you must click the icon what looks like "home"
This has been my experience with Vegas and Resolve too, editing is just clunky compared to Vegas. However, I'm back on Vegas V12 because it's the most stable version I've ever used. I'm missing some features but not enough to make me put up with the crashing.
This shows exactly why I chose Vegas over Resolve. Resolve was made for teams of people who all work on different aspects of the project and get paid by the hour, so the longer it takes to do things, the more money they make. BTW, you can position video clips the way you want when you use the PIP effect on the clip. Also, there's a normalize option within the Switches right-click submenu. Quicker to get to.
Quite an inside information you have there! :) Vegas is no doubt faster, but there are a number of shortcuts that Resolve has and will match Vegas' way. One that comes in my mind: If you drag a clip over the one in front while pressing Alt+Shift will actually add a crossfade automatically, just like Vegas.
You seem to have the same sensibilities as me when it comes to the Vegas interface. I've grown with it, so I'm more familiar with the flow. The only thing that bugs me is editing audio in Vegas. Moving around events is easy. Applying effects which change the waveform and change the size of an event doesn't work. When applying audio effects, the waveform looks the same and the size of the even does not change. When adding reverb, the event will cut off at its original size. I's like the audio editing to work like Audacity. Another thing that bugs me when editing audio in Vegas is when speeding up or slowing down video. I'd like the practice of syncing audio to the sped / slowed video to be easier. Beyond the 4X accordion-crunch to events, it's a lot of guess work and manual math. You can speed footage up 40,000 times. It's really difficult to use though. If you know of a tip or maybe a later version has fixed this (I use 14), let me know. One thing that always confuses me in Vegas when I do it is masking video events and getting that mask to apply to child events. I've done it, but it is not intuitive. Does Davinci make this easier? 32:43 Those generated project files could be incorporated into the main project file itself, but then it makes that project file larger. It could be huge if you have a lot of media that generates it. They are written with the same media file that uses them inside the folder that media is. You can better organize your project media files into folders to your liking. Porting a large project size is more cumbersome when working with multiple team members or when archiving. Since those assistive files can be generated on the fly, it relieves these problems. Davinci sounds like a buggy work-in-progress. I believe that is why they are offering it for free. The advanced neural engine seems to be the feature for which they're charging. It took a bit for Vegas to become stable. I suspect Davinci will move to an everybody pays model when they smooth out things. As for now, it's as if they're using the community as debuggers.
The reason why you can't resize to a corner, is because the video has a pivot point. But you can move that within the video. That makes it possible to for example rotate around a point, other than the center.
Fairlight IS a DAW, so don't know why youre complaining. Its even one of the oldest DAWs in the world. And while I can't say if you could add audio effects 3 years ago on the edit page, you can now. You can also open the audio mixer panel on the edit page.
I can't give up Premiere pro. I haven't used Vegas sence 2005. It looks like it's changed in many good ways. Plus its always nice to just buy the software outright instead of paying the fee each month. Premiere is just that good though and I don't care for Resolve. Nice video
To open a diffrent project, you push the home button on the down right corner. Theres a whole hub for those kind of things. But i think that there us a way to open a project from the menus on the upper side to
To delete render files. Timeline>render files(or metadata, i dont remember)>delete render files. You can choise what will be your metadata folder in the project settings
Thanks for this comparison video. I'm a long-time Vegas user and now using Resolve some. Is it possible to edit Blackmagic raw from the Pocket 6K in Vegas? Thanks in advance.
The reason why normalization takes so long, is because it's not just a simple level adjustment. It adhere to whatever standard you choose. It also has to calculate peak output, so it's doing several things at once.
To be fair to Resolve and other NLES for that matter, the playhead stopping when you do something midway is actually a good thing, given that it has less chances of catching your NLE by surprise while you're playing 4k+ footage that is loaded with FX, thus, less likelihood to crash. In VEGAS, you have to *remember* to pause. That being said, it's also a good thing, because it imitates the behavior of DAWS, which is something musicians who edit their own videos will feel at home with. Its a trade off. I'm a VEGAS user, but I certainly wish there was a way to disable the playhead from behaving like that.
You don't like the shortcuts, change them! It's as simple as that. Don't know if you can choose to set DR to use Vegas specific keyboard shortcuts, but you can change it to use shortcuts of other NLEs.
Resolve because color tab and Fusion. Maybe edit would be better in Resolve, but I don't have seen any big problems. I typically had only one video and audio channel. And I like to do all audio effects in Fairlight tab.
I don't hide them because I want to delete them with the media when I'm finished with it, and deleting them can sometimes fix corrupted vegas projects. There probably is a way to do hide them but then those cache files will build up on the machine. I wonder if there is a way to link them to the media file? That would be nifty.
I actually have a second computer that does the screen recording to take the load of my main machine. I've worked with both vegas and resolve on much weaker machines before and resolve crashes a little less than vegas. I don't notice anything super different other than vegas does not like it if you move a playback cursor back to where you just trimmed an event that is no longer there. If I avoid this then I rarely crash, even on weaker machines, and when I don't avoid it I'd say there is about a 2% chance of a crash.
Dragging a webcam image and positioning it anywhere on the screen is easy in Streamlabs. Don't know why you'd want to do this in video editing. I've been using Shotcut lately. I almost got Vegas pro for cad $400 last Christmas but opted for Komplete 12 Ultimate for the same price. Resolve crashes my i5 6 core 3kmz pc. Might have something to do with my 16Ram though 🙄 I'm surprised that the audio wave form isn't increased when the track is normalized like in Audacity. Shot does a crossfade automatically and Shotcut is open source.
Yea I like both and I think Komplete was a really good choice. That was my first buy after the computer and DAW. I used to keep myself recorded in obs but have the ability to move myself around the screen in editing is very helpful.
Add sony vegas slip-trimming (Ctrl+Alt+Shift) to the equation than vegas chrushes resolve completely editing wise... i only use resolve for grading thru roundtripping xml /EDL.
####its so simple both are good for editing . vegas pro is good and easy to work even its very good for beginner but davinci resolve is only for professionals where you can get edit+audio edit+color grade+fusion(its a hidden magic inside resolve)....davinci resolve is more powerfull than vegas pro and you can get free version & studio version is 299 $ (one time payment).. ....only problem is davinci need deep learning curve....if you learn davinci resolve 16 you can easily replace (premier pro+after effects)........if you wana edit for youtube or a projects or dont wana learn you can go for vegas....but if video editing is your profession better choose davinci resolve studio16 or premier pro or avid/final cut pro.....
the thing i hate about davinci resolve is codec limit that includes color format and audio formats they did that intentionally so you get their studio version but technology changed but based on experience davinci resolve is not great at all but theres no better option thats the main problem
This sounds like you have weird export settings or are doing heavy fx. Resolve and Vegas render about the same for me. A 5 min video like this one would only take a minute or two to render. I run an i7 and gt 1050. This is for vegas 17 tho, which I saw a big improvement (I transitioned from 15)
@@ComposingGloves 1st any many thanks for replay sir i have intel i3 4150 4th gen ; GT 1030 i not use any heavy filter but render is always slow any idea ?
@@MMPHOTOANDVIDEO It looks like the problem lies with your specs itself, it's just not powerful enough to render more quickly. I edit with Intel Core i5 6500 + AMD RX 560 machine, rendering a 100 second 4K @ 24 fps video would usually take around 10 minutes. With heavy effects applied and multiple layers, it can take up to 90 minutes. If you're using VEGAS Pro 15 or later, try rendering in MAGIX AVC with an NVENC preset, it uses GPU acceleration to speed up rendering.
Composing gloves is right. I have a 12 yr old computer i used that before, it took an hour to render for just 7 minutes then i bought a new one i have ryzen 9 3900x and nvdia 1060 rtx super 7 minutes took only 1 or 2 kinutes and i used lot of vfx. Depends on your specs
@jesilOkuefuna you need to get your weight up fam. Resolve in Vegas is is two different things. If your poor, go with the free program. But if you get paid good money to do what you do then invest back into your business and get industry-standard program bro. Nothing is wrong with the Vinci but if you got money there's better programs. And when you mix Vegas with some industry-standard programs like set fire red giant universe or ignite......your doing a whole lot better than what you can do with the free program
I paid $107 for the upgrade for Vegas Edit.... the $200 price that you are saying is for Vegas Pro that comes with Boris FX Primatte Studio (price that one independently), Sound Forge Studio, and Vegas Stream (Newblue FX Vividcast). So Resolve Studio (which I also own), does not "win".
You didn't mention anything about rendering. Obviously because Vegas is a complete joke compared to Resolve rendering speed and codecs. Vegas 18 is even worse than 17 was. Most people use video plugins. Good luck if you use vegas. Plugins usually have to be made proprietary for Vegas. In Resolve, the OFX just work, except for some of Red Giant plugs because of Red Giant, not Resolve which is another story. Davinci Resolve is FREE. Most you tubers don't need the studio version for basic stuff.
Someone else brought up a similar issue I addressed in their comment, but in short, Vegas is actually faster for me than Resolve is many instances, it usually pretty close and both are very quick so it didn't stick out to me as a major difference. However, I am running Vegas 18 which was massively faster than 15 which resolve beat without an issue. Resolve was less complex to set up for sure making it easier for someone who is new to get the optimal render settings, while vegas has a massive list of codecs and then inside each option is a huge list of presets, so I think Resolve in general provides an initial simpler experience but I still prefer vegas for rendering, cause once you got your preset set up it goes very fast. Different experiences for different machines and setups of course. I haven't updated to the latest resolve, I'm one version off, so maybe the new one is way faster.
for all that whining and nit picking i can live with a "FREE program DaVinci Resolve" , to me Vegas look old and outdated interface and for $599.00 its a joke. i dont know how or were you can get this for $300 because Vegas pro 18 is $599.00 , did someone say there is a free editor for $0 ahh thats right its called Davinci Resolve. btw have a go at rendering times Davinci Resolve much much faster, id say equal to Final cut x.
Lol i goes to the free and the best editing software 🫡 Davince is the best editing software. Vegas there’s so many issues and their software so expensive 😂 and the update too 😂. Dude there’s so many cheaper editing and fast too and easy to use 🫡
Thanks for this! For sure editing is faster in Vegas, by a mile! But, once you get your ways around Resolve, as with anything else, it does become easier and faster. Vegas is very intuitive, Resolve is very powerful. For the most part, Vegas takes you easier there, but Resolve will take you further. Vegas does have a clear workflow, Resolve is like a thing of itself - basically each feature requires a different way to learn it. Vegas could definitely use some of Resolve stability and GPU integration, Resolve could definitely become more straightforward. Could these combine somehow? ;) ResolVega editor! :)
I would buy ResolVega Editor in a heartbeat! haha
bro, not some of that stability and gpu integration, lets say it could use all of it
I use both of them. I started with Sony Vegas way back when (around 2012) and have done many videos with it. Some of them were very complex. I just know how it works. That said, there are some great features in Resolve. Basically, I use Resolve mostly for color grading and speciality purposes. But I like the Vegas timeline editing better because I know it.
Vegas timeline and shortcuts and envelopes are incredible. Don't know how people hate it or think the product is inferior
Overlap transition is great too
Yes, I was the greatest user that Vegas had and it got me a TV contract, but once it got brought by( Magix) it been buggy.
However, I used it on a Mac with bootcamp. It was so smooth just like what DaVinci is today.
Never have I ever thought about crashing just work flow techniques... as a matter of fact as DaVinci was developing it was adding Vegas like features and surpass them.
One thing you mentioned is the inability to drag images around on screen in Vegas. That's because you're using Track Motion or Clip Pan/Crop instead of the Picture-In-Picture FX.
Omg, thank you. I've never noticed this FX, you literally saved me hours and ours of painful editing
saying that he has edited over 1000 videos in vegas and not knowing that is embarrasing
Funny... I just found out this 2 days ago, when having a look into vegas again after a few years.. tis was also anoying, until i accidently use PiP Fx :D
Your comment saved my life. I thank you from a small town in Spain, wherever you are.
oh my fucking god. THIS IS LITTERALLY THE INTIRE REASON WHY I SWITCHED TO A DIFFERENT SOFTWARE. thank you so much
We use Premiere for Titles and his After Effect compatibility, Vegas for very complexe productions with audio video sync. and Resolve for the final color correction.
Wow! You expressed pretty much exactly everything I love about Vegas, bro! I’ve tried most every NLE’s and I keep coming back to Vegas. I don’t like the crashing in Vegas but I’m ok with saving often. 😀
Version 17 has been amazing for me. Crashes are now much more rare. Version 15 was a nightmare. I could count on a crash happening every 20 min.
@@ComposingGloves I'm still on 9! 16 just kept crashing or going in retard mode where everything just freezes saying something like Unresponsive on top and if I click anywhere while it's search for a reason to live, the whole screen becomes white and I have to force quit. So I went back to my old version 9. Thank you for this comparison, I'm trying to learn Resolve after 20 years in Vegas, it's hard.
20:26 and 21:51 just use the picture in picture fx in vegas you can add it to the single event, the timeline or the entire project
23:11 Reduce the font size from 48 to a smaller number then you can ctrl+drag to make new copies anytime you want to make new text with the font and all other effects
in Davinci Resolve is the data zoom - left top button on time lineand there you can edit it
great comparison. I like VEGAS pro simplicity. I wish VEGAS have the stability like resolve
That's about the bottom-line of it! Exactly my thoughts!
My PC AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, 32GB RAM, RX480 8GB and I've had crashes with Resolve.
@@Reyfox1 resolve stops rendering sometimes ...
Yea, I used Movie Studio then Vegas. I just enjoy the workflow compared to Resolve. The little things you mentioned. To each their own, this editing process just makes more sense to me.
To open an existing project in Resolve, click on the icon that looks like a house (lower right). That will open the project manager.
As for those little Vegas files, those are of course just storing metadata on the project. Resolve does the same thing but in its proprietary database (stored in Program Data I think) and really in a way is cleaner than Vegas' approach, though admittedly less visible.
I totally agree with your discussion of zooming the timeline. Vegas wins for sure. Likewise with having overlapping clips automatically crossfade (though that has to be enabled in Vegas).
One thing not mentioned - in Vegas, but not Resolve, you can open multiple instances of the app -- work one project while another is rendering, etc.
You can't have multiple windows of resolve open at once?! How would you copy a chunk of video project from one timeline to a different project?!
@@arthurkr222 IDK, have never tried it. Maybe the timeline can be stored in the clipboard. But in this video I thought I understood one of the comments to be that he has to close Resolve completely to open a new or different project. That is what I was referencing.
You can actually have a Vegas project of a short bit of your main video that needs heaps of editing. Save it. Then have your main video open and drag the Vegas file into your project. It will bring in the small section that is actually a Vegas project itself. You can then leave both instances of Vegas open. Edit the small section and it will change in the timeline of your main project.
If I am making a big video with 5 or more sections, I make the sections separately then fresh those Vegas files into my main project
@@markroxley9001 I've used that embedded project in Vegas and it can be pretty useful. (Where it can get thrown off is if you change the duration of one of the sub projects.) In Resolve, the closest equivalent that I'm aware of is using multiple timeline in a single project where each of those timelines feeds into a "master" timeline.
A really good video, I have the same troubles with Resolve that you mentioned, it's good to see I'm not the only maniac 😂
This video is a gem, rly premium examples n work uve done in this vid, ty so so so so much! 🔥
Question are all Vegas Pros like this?
Tip for DaVinci Resolve: See those icons with the magnifying glass, to the right of them is a slider. To increase the sound in the wave forms, hover you mouse icon around the middle area, until it changes it's shape, like a triangle, then ya can move the waves up or down to change the volume (Most of the sound action is on Fairlight). (I am sorry that I didn't find out which shortcut keys for stuff, like the data zoom).
Been using resolve for like, a year now and I can barely get videos out..
Now I want Song Vegas because it would be so fast. Thank you, I was hesitant to buy Vegas but now I'm spending my savings on it thanks to you. Take a sub
@Swiggy it hasn't been "Sony" Vegas in 4 years...... Magix bought the company...Vegas Pro will do just fine.
Crack version bruh
@@Reyfox1 It's not a tasty word for my tongue to say Magix Vegas instead of Sony Vegas also the software is known for Sony Vegas so if you asked any veteran on PC that have moved to mobile phones and forgot the PC he definitely will know Sony Vegas but wont ever know whats Magix.. Btw, anyway it's the best editing software for me♥
@@Asim112 in the Vegas forum, many new people still call it "Sony". It was known as Sony up to 4 years ago. From VP14, it's Vegas Creative.
But it's still my favorite editing software too!
To zoom to audio wave you have to go in to fairlight tab.
I think that there is a shortcut for that in the edit tab
37:57 You can open projects by clicking on the house icon in the bottom right corner.
I knew it had to be somewhere! XD
@@ComposingGloves And it should've been obvious too lmao
Thanks for the comparsion. I like to hear more about these differences: multicam editing (Vegas slows down when you have many videotracks with fx, even when only the topmost is visible..), timeline playback performance (Vegas drop frames at every hard cut because of buffering or something. How smooth is this in Resolve?), what about 4k editing, does it need proxy? - Editline scrubbing speed with native h264 1080 files, rendering h264 or h265 at 20mbps quality comparsion, (i use frameserver +ripbot for quality output)... How is preview window drawing? I Vegas with my 50p footage and 50Hz monitor i cannot get perfectly smooth motion, often see screen tearing, stuttering, etc. Edius was perfect in this regard. Tracking object+follow that with a text..... You mean, real world usage :) I use Vegas, but look for another NLE, because with my i7 16GB and 1660Ti card i feel i drive my sportcar in a forest :(
21:55 - to move images in Vegas, use Picture-in-Picture, and it'll do the same as in Resolve.
Where is it, please?
@@DarkBow_ here is also a video from Vegas that explains how to use it: ua-cam.com/video/2R75opTiROI/v-deo.html
I am an absolute amateur but whatever I edited I did it in Vegas. I started to work with DaVinci now but I'll just probably pay for Vegas at the end. Simply things like automatic crossfades are just more complicated in DaVinci.
Thanks for this video! It helped me a lot with an assignment for uni
Hmmm, I agree with many (most) of you comparisons, but not the audio FX discussion. First, I believe in Resolve's Edit tab, if you click on an audio track, the Inspector does have basic audio tools available. And re FX, I think if you open Resolve's Effects Library, any audio FX can be dropped on the timeline audio and adjusted in the Inspector. From my experience, it's actually pretty easy. I've worked a fair amount with both apps, and for audio FX, I actually think Resolve is more straight forward. Details aside, interesting video. (As an aside, my understanding is Vegas started out as primarily an audio editing app.)
Compare to Vegas, Resolve is total crap. It would take one at least 3 times longer to make the same video in DR than it takes them in Vegas. When it comes to color correction, than Vegas 19 now is not worse than DR. At least in Vegas, one can see in the Vectroscope very clearly when they oversaturate image or not. Resolve's Vectroscope is just crap. And if one has 30 clips and needs to crossfade them, in DR it's a nightmare, because, of course you don't know the time when and how long that crossfade has to be, you want to see it on in your video, and Vegas is just perfect for that. The only shame is that it's not aval. on Linux. And that's the only reason to consider DR over Vegas. Love your video, thanks a lot.
I use Vegas since version 3 and I try to force myself on davinci every now and then. I just can't get use with the editing flow. For some reason though I am always disappointed with the rendering in Vegas. I never know what codec would be best and the settings. I feel like davinci is doing a much better job in that area and with better image quality.
This is a really good comparison
Hey great video - what does the workflow look like when editing in Vegas and adding the finishing touches in DaVinci (i.e colour correction). Would you have to export the finished track in vegas then re-export or is there a better way?
One of the biggest advantages of VEGAS over many NLEs is that you can change project resolution, frame rate and progress/interlaced field order anytime you want! And the timeline cursor moving by Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Mouse wheel is awesome also.
In resolve you have to press the home button on the bottom right to open a new project. You can even have multiple projects open at the same time and switch between them by clicking the project title above the preview window. It's cool cos you can copy and paste between projects.
To trim ripple you just have to do it with the ripple edit tool. More then that, if you want to be really precise, you can trim and tipple trim with the third curser that will ripple and nuge on the singke frame level
Davinci is great, the only major downside is that it is so freaking unstable, it crashes 100x more times than the competitors.
Wdym, davinci is the most stable editor by far. Because it uses Gpu and CPU
@@ChumpyChicken I don’t edit anymore, but was my main software and was mas unestable
@@33Champi that’s just a specs problem
@@ChumpyChicken Bro. I have a ryzen 5 2600x, a rtx 2060 and 16 gigs of ram
@@ChumpyChicken if you just put clips then yes it is stable, but if you use plugins and other stuff no
If you take the time to learn Resolve's way...you have a universe of power. If you take the time to learn Vegas's way...you have a universe of power. Choose your path and deal with it.
Well, I found using Vegas that videos often get corrupted and the program crashes semi often.
Hoping resolve will not have this problem and will also over deliver on features that Sony Vegas doesn't have.
For audio effects just scroll down in the effects tab. Some are in the right click menue and the common ones are in the inspector (also)
NewBlue Chroma plug in for Vegas works very well.
in Davinci resolve you can do new project withaout closing - right bottom, and next to the options icon - you must click the icon what looks like "home"
This has been my experience with Vegas and Resolve too, editing is just clunky compared to Vegas. However, I'm back on Vegas V12 because it's the most stable version I've ever used. I'm missing some features but not enough to make me put up with the crashing.
Vegas pro This is a cool editing program, the work speed is awesome. there is everything you need with a cool link with Boris fx this is your bomb.
Right click on the text input in the inspector-modify>per cheracter midify. You can now control every latter cepretly in the modifier
This shows exactly why I chose Vegas over Resolve. Resolve was made for teams of people who all work on different aspects of the project and get paid by the hour, so the longer it takes to do things, the more money they make. BTW, you can position video clips the way you want when you use the PIP effect on the clip. Also, there's a normalize option within the Switches right-click submenu. Quicker to get to.
Quite an inside information you have there! :) Vegas is no doubt faster, but there are a number of shortcuts that Resolve has and will match Vegas' way. One that comes in my mind: If you drag a clip over the one in front while pressing Alt+Shift will actually add a crossfade automatically, just like Vegas.
@@adimatis but you don't have to press any keyboard keys to do it! :D
You seem to have the same sensibilities as me when it comes to the Vegas interface. I've grown with it, so I'm more familiar with the flow.
The only thing that bugs me is editing audio in Vegas. Moving around events is easy. Applying effects which change the waveform and change the size of an event doesn't work. When applying audio effects, the waveform looks the same and the size of the even does not change. When adding reverb, the event will cut off at its original size. I's like the audio editing to work like Audacity.
Another thing that bugs me when editing audio in Vegas is when speeding up or slowing down video. I'd like the practice of syncing audio to the sped / slowed video to be easier. Beyond the 4X accordion-crunch to events, it's a lot of guess work and manual math. You can speed footage up 40,000 times. It's really difficult to use though. If you know of a tip or maybe a later version has fixed this (I use 14), let me know.
One thing that always confuses me in Vegas when I do it is masking video events and getting that mask to apply to child events. I've done it, but it is not intuitive. Does Davinci make this easier?
32:43 Those generated project files could be incorporated into the main project file itself, but then it makes that project file larger. It could be huge if you have a lot of media that generates it. They are written with the same media file that uses them inside the folder that media is. You can better organize your project media files into folders to your liking. Porting a large project size is more cumbersome when working with multiple team members or when archiving. Since those assistive files can be generated on the fly, it relieves these problems.
Davinci sounds like a buggy work-in-progress. I believe that is why they are offering it for free. The advanced neural engine seems to be the feature for which they're charging. It took a bit for Vegas to become stable. I suspect Davinci will move to an everybody pays model when they smooth out things. As for now, it's as if they're using the community as debuggers.
The reason why you can't resize to a corner, is because the video has a pivot point. But you can move that within the video. That makes it possible to for example rotate around a point, other than the center.
Fairlight IS a DAW, so don't know why youre complaining.
Its even one of the oldest DAWs in the world.
And while I can't say if you could add audio effects 3 years ago on the edit page, you can now. You can also open the audio mixer panel on the edit page.
This video is excellent!
I can't give up Premiere pro. I haven't used Vegas sence 2005. It looks like it's changed in many good ways. Plus its always nice to just buy the software outright instead of paying the fee each month. Premiere is just that good though and I don't care for Resolve. Nice video
i use both, theyre pretty good!
To open a diffrent project, you push the home button on the down right corner. Theres a whole hub for those kind of things. But i think that there us a way to open a project from the menus on the upper side to
Down left button on the preview screen you have a triangle drawing, that enables transform controls
To delete render files.
Timeline>render files(or metadata, i dont remember)>delete render files.
You can choise what will be your metadata folder in the project settings
Thanks for this comparison video. I'm a long-time Vegas user and now using Resolve some. Is it possible to edit Blackmagic raw from the Pocket 6K in Vegas? Thanks in advance.
You can normalize audio w a shortcut (click twice to work) :D
I like to move picturtes in my videos very often, so I'm going to give Resolve a shot just to see if it will be faster to do that.
The reason why normalization takes so long, is because it's not just a simple level adjustment. It adhere to whatever standard you choose. It also has to calculate peak output, so it's doing several things at once.
To be fair to Resolve and other NLES for that matter, the playhead stopping when you do something midway is actually a good thing, given that it has less chances of catching your NLE by surprise while you're playing 4k+ footage that is loaded with FX, thus, less likelihood to crash.
In VEGAS, you have to *remember* to pause. That being said, it's also a good thing, because it imitates the behavior of DAWS, which is something musicians who edit their own videos will feel at home with.
Its a trade off. I'm a VEGAS user, but I certainly wish there was a way to disable the playhead from behaving like that.
You don't like the shortcuts, change them! It's as simple as that.
Don't know if you can choose to set DR to use Vegas specific keyboard shortcuts, but you can change it to use shortcuts of other NLEs.
Using Vegas video since 1.0!
Resolve because color tab and Fusion. Maybe edit would be better in Resolve, but I don't have seen any big problems. I typically had only one video and audio channel. And I like to do all audio effects in Fairlight tab.
PLEASE, how do u hide all the trash files vegas generates, maybe some comand to tell windows: hide (not delete) all .sfk files when created
I don't hide them because I want to delete them with the media when I'm finished with it, and deleting them can sometimes fix corrupted vegas projects. There probably is a way to do hide them but then those cache files will build up on the machine. I wonder if there is a way to link them to the media file? That would be nifty.
thank you for this video...which program is more computer resource-intensive..?
I can't say anymore. I haven't noticed any big difference recently for regular editing.
Nowadays, DaVinci Resolve is king and the perfect video editor.
is resolves playback still deficient compared to vegas after three years?
I bet you have a pretty powerfull pc to screen record with vegas and resolve open, do u notice your vegas CRASH LESS with a powerfull computer?
I actually have a second computer that does the screen recording to take the load of my main machine. I've worked with both vegas and resolve on much weaker machines before and resolve crashes a little less than vegas. I don't notice anything super different other than vegas does not like it if you move a playback cursor back to where you just trimmed an event that is no longer there. If I avoid this then I rarely crash, even on weaker machines, and when I don't avoid it I'd say there is about a 2% chance of a crash.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ I've subscribed! This guy is articulate, clear, pleasant and knows his stuff. I learned so much from this video. Keep up the great work!
I Love Vegas!!!
Hey you're zooming in on your timeline where your mouse is, mine zooms in where the playhead is, how do I change that?
To move images use "Track motion"
Where is it, please?
Dragging a webcam image and positioning it anywhere on the screen is easy in Streamlabs. Don't know why you'd want to do this in video editing. I've been using Shotcut lately. I almost got Vegas pro for cad $400 last Christmas but opted for Komplete 12 Ultimate for the same price. Resolve crashes my i5 6 core 3kmz pc. Might have something to do with my 16Ram though 🙄 I'm surprised that the audio wave form isn't increased when the track is normalized like in Audacity. Shot does a crossfade automatically and Shotcut is open source.
Yea I like both and I think Komplete was a really good choice. That was my first buy after the computer and DAW. I used to keep myself recorded in obs but have the ability to move myself around the screen in editing is very helpful.
Yea I've been trying to switch from svp but when I try to learn PP or DaVinci I realize how fast svp is
3 yeas later are you still on VEGAS or did you manage to jump ship to Resolve?
I use resolve mainly these days. It's stability, FX, green screening and clip comping are just way better. It also handles 4k footage much better.
I get your points! If only I could edit as fast in Resolve as in Vegas ...that's still my only gripe with Resolve
how did you overcome resolve implementation of ripple editing. Just don't like how it works in resolve?
The ripple editing is one of the things I like more in resolve. It took a bit of getting used to but I really enjoy it now
Yes, you can zoom audio to be higher.
And no, you cant zoom further in, than to frame level on the edit page. Why would you want to?!
Add sony vegas slip-trimming (Ctrl+Alt+Shift) to the equation than vegas chrushes resolve completely editing wise...
i only use resolve for grading thru roundtripping xml /EDL.
You cant effect entire track, but you can add an edjustment layer right above it
Which version of Vegas are you reviewing?
18
Resolve is the Citroen of video editors.
I use Windows XP movie maker. 🕺
Vegas is King safe!
I'm 4 minutes into DaVinci and I miss Vegas Pro already
Im a Vegas user since it was for Sony, and I can't deal with any other
35:55 You can zoom further into the waveform in the Fairlight tab.
Thanks! Good to know!
####its so simple both are good for editing . vegas pro is good and easy to work even its very good for beginner but davinci resolve is only for professionals where you can get edit+audio edit+color grade+fusion(its a hidden magic inside resolve)....davinci resolve is more powerfull than vegas pro and you can get free version & studio version is 299 $ (one time payment).. ....only problem is davinci need deep learning curve....if you learn davinci resolve 16 you can easily replace (premier pro+after effects)........if you wana edit for youtube or a projects or dont wana learn you can go for vegas....but if video editing is your profession better choose davinci resolve studio16 or premier pro or avid/final cut pro.....
DR looks cool but...it is full of bugs.
I think the reason why Vegas makes i lot of sense is because it works like DAWs like Ableton Live , Logic pro
Cut tab in resolve is actually pretty fast
Hey mate!
Hey!
vegas is def a faster work flow.. resolve and premeire requires to much for to little when vegas has a right click ....scale ,fx, ect
For me at least davici resolve is way faster. Now if i eant to go back i probbably couldn't
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the thing i hate about davinci resolve is codec limit that includes color format and audio formats
they did that intentionally so you get their studio version but technology changed
but based on experience davinci resolve is not great at all but theres no better option thats the main problem
"duel"
Vegas is too slow in exporting final 5 minutes video take 45 minutes
This sounds like you have weird export settings or are doing heavy fx. Resolve and Vegas render about the same for me. A 5 min video like this one would only take a minute or two to render. I run an i7 and gt 1050. This is for vegas 17 tho, which I saw a big improvement (I transitioned from 15)
@@ComposingGloves 1st any many thanks for replay sir i have intel i3 4150 4th gen ; GT 1030 i not use any heavy filter but render is always slow any idea ?
@@MMPHOTOANDVIDEO It looks like the problem lies with your specs itself, it's just not powerful enough to render more quickly. I edit with Intel Core i5 6500 + AMD RX 560 machine, rendering a 100 second 4K @ 24 fps video would usually take around 10 minutes. With heavy effects applied and multiple layers, it can take up to 90 minutes. If you're using VEGAS Pro 15 or later, try rendering in MAGIX AVC with an NVENC preset, it uses GPU acceleration to speed up rendering.
Composing gloves is right. I have a 12 yr old computer i used that before, it took an hour to render for just 7 minutes then i bought a new one i have ryzen 9 3900x and nvdia 1060 rtx super 7 minutes took only 1 or 2 kinutes and i used lot of vfx. Depends on your specs
@Credo Vertigo sorry i use edius 9 now deleted vegas
@jesilOkuefuna you need to get your weight up fam. Resolve in Vegas is is two different things. If your poor, go with the free program. But if you get paid good money to do what you do then invest back into your business and get industry-standard program bro.
Nothing is wrong with the Vinci but if you got money there's better programs. And when you mix Vegas with some industry-standard programs like set fire red giant universe or ignite......your doing a whole lot better than what you can do with the free program
Take into account that upgrading from Vegas 18 pro to 19 pro is $200!!! DaVinci wins.
I paid $107 for the upgrade for Vegas Edit.... the $200 price that you are saying is for Vegas Pro that comes with Boris FX Primatte Studio (price that one independently), Sound Forge Studio, and Vegas Stream (Newblue FX Vividcast).
So Resolve Studio (which I also own), does not "win".
I am fucking shocked how superior Vegas is but I am so pissed off with its stability :(
You didn't mention anything about rendering. Obviously because Vegas is a complete joke compared to Resolve rendering speed and codecs. Vegas 18 is even worse than 17 was. Most people use video plugins. Good luck if you use vegas. Plugins usually have to be made proprietary for Vegas. In Resolve, the OFX just work, except for some of Red Giant plugs because of Red Giant, not Resolve which is another story. Davinci Resolve is FREE. Most you tubers don't need the studio version for basic stuff.
Someone else brought up a similar issue I addressed in their comment, but in short, Vegas is actually faster for me than Resolve is many instances, it usually pretty close and both are very quick so it didn't stick out to me as a major difference. However, I am running Vegas 18 which was massively faster than 15 which resolve beat without an issue. Resolve was less complex to set up for sure making it easier for someone who is new to get the optimal render settings, while vegas has a massive list of codecs and then inside each option is a huge list of presets, so I think Resolve in general provides an initial simpler experience but I still prefer vegas for rendering, cause once you got your preset set up it goes very fast. Different experiences for different machines and setups of course. I haven't updated to the latest resolve, I'm one version off, so maybe the new one is way faster.
DaVinci is shit, CupCut is ok, and Elements is what it is. Hit Film is useless. I'll just use the camera with no edit.
for all that whining and nit picking i can live with a "FREE program DaVinci Resolve" , to me Vegas look old and outdated interface and for $599.00 its a joke. i dont know how or were you can get this for $300 because Vegas pro 18 is $599.00 , did someone say there is a free editor for $0 ahh thats right its called Davinci Resolve. btw have a go at rendering times Davinci Resolve much much faster, id say equal to Final cut x.
To be fair: You can pick up previous versions of Vegas on Humble Bundle & co for
Nah, he probably gotten this SVP off of Humble Bundle or was talking about the version that he has. - Which is "old" and has a price drop now.
Lol i goes to the free and the best editing software 🫡 Davince is the best editing software. Vegas there’s so many issues and their software so expensive 😂 and the update too 😂. Dude there’s so many cheaper editing and fast too and easy to use 🫡