I have ridden Jap bikes and had a few British Classics for 35 years. Five years ago my brother let me ride his Harley. I got off the bike and thought, `now I understand`. Since then I've had 3 Harleys and the biggest smile on my face. They aren't as fast or the best handling bikes but I have never enjoyed riding any of my Jap bikes as much as my Harleys. They make me happy!
I have to agree with you Amon, Ive ridden & restored bikes for 48 years all sorts Brit, Jap, Italian, German, road and dirtIve loved them all but my Harley has the true biker soul we all love. Im now to old to go fast so its comfort soul and longhaul on my bagger for me now as my forever bike....love ya show ✌🥇⭐
Is there any better feeling than pulling up and a strangers comes up a says “love your bike, that sounds awesome” or when kids at the lights want you to give it a rev.!? Your baby, your creation, your expression of self, and the community that surrounds riding HD
I've owned a lot of bikes from Honda's to Suzuki's and a couple of Kawasaki's...the plain truth of the matter is the best bike and it's not even close is my Harley Davidson from fit to finish and function I love to look at the way the bike looks and riding my bike is even better it just glides when I ride and that sound man I'm in heaven when you feel the wind and hear that Harley purrrr...yeah it's that good you have to own one to know...ohhh yeah my bike is a 2016 CVO SG love my bike
Awesome video as always mate....At the end of the day...."Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!!!" Does it really matter what anyone thinks about other bikes, brands, etc. The most important thing in life...is do what makes you happy and appreciate what you have! If you see something that looks cool....tell the owner. Enjoy its looks, admire it and smile! 😎
I own 2 Harleys a 1997 Heritage Vicla will never sell it looks so beautiful..And i got a Ultra 2021 Stage 2+ i luvit probably last bike will buy... I had Jap and British i like the Triumphs but come on a modified Harley is sweeet...😊
Harley has both form and function. Each one is a blank slate with an endless amount of customizing capacity. As far as function goes, I now have a 2019 Ultra Limited, and it is one hell of a machine, from the heated grips to the radiator cooled heads. It is so torqued out that on the open road its just a beast, but also amazing on the twisty turny's (is that a proper word?) a few days ago I left the 319 turns of the Tail of the Dragon in the Smokey Mountains and that engine was screaming for more. When Judas Priest wrote Turbo Lovers they weren't thinking of Honda or Yamaha's so keep that in mind.
Objection, the spice of life! Great video..again. I picked up a new FLHTK and ordered over $1500.00 in custom parts before I even rode it home. No one has one like it, or like yours, his, hers, and, theirs. just saying.
Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Sound. When i got my yamaha roadstars, the first thing i did was change the pipes to now i realize, to sound like a harley. (Well close). Looks. My favourite looks were my o6, and 10 triumph rocket 111’s. I just liked going out and looking at them. My indian springfield was bought for comfort. Looked good . Stage 1 sounded ok. Then i just bought an 07 Fatboy . (7500 kms)After market pipes black with red highlights and amazing chrome. I’ll tell you what, this thing is beautiful and loud. The loud will get me into trouble here. A lot of Towns and cities have created noise bylaws for motorcycles. I don’t care! LOVE IT
Regards the actual bike, I always went with form over function - though as I got wiser and older they tended to balance out.... and dare I say now in my 'grey beard' days function (read - comfort) might be taking over. One question you might want to explore - Why do so many long term HD riders/ owners hold a particular disdain for the actual 'company'... the corporate entity as such. Note - I'm not talking about recent 'mid life crisis' converts - I'm talking about 'long termers'... bods who've been punting them around for the last 40+ years. And yep ... another good video.👍
Thanks, much appreciated. Maybe they hang onto the old prices and forget that everything is going up in cost. Maybe just holding onto the "old days" and dont like change, very hard to say - but you are correct there is a lot of disdain for the 'company'
Physics! Essentially a person in car cannot hear a loud exhaust pipe (110dB A weighted) unless it is within 30ft of the vehicle. However while traveling at highway speeds (and your exhaust shooting to the rear of the bike) any reaction would be too late, so it doesn’t really help the situation eh? I guess the other point I’d add to this is that, at least here in the States, the overwhelming majority of accidents involving motorcycles are cars pulling in front of us meaning the problem is ahead of us not behind us. All of this said, I love loud pipes and am not against them. They sound great and are one of the many reasons I love my bike. Keep doing what you do, the biker world needs your outlooks! Cheers.
@@simoncaddick9085 that’s true, they might. Statistically though, 70% of motorcycle accidents are from vehicles turning left into or right in front of motorcycles. So to me it seems like it doesn’t seem to work on that scenario either.
@@hanfordpittman592 yes that's the old argument. Having ridden both Harley's and other brands for 40 years drivers do hear you (it may only be a split second early) but it makes a HUGE difference. I'm not suggesting that it prevents all accidents. I am saying it prevents some. I and many others have extensive personal experience with this, physics is only correct when applied correctly.
I’ll say that’s objective but agree, they are beautiful. That said I also like the R1M and Panigale and BMW GS1250 and Honda Ruckus and… own a 2018 Heritage 114. Iconic is spot on and the sound is amazing.
Not as beautiful as most Harley Davidsons but don't forget the mid 70's CB 750's ! My idea of a perfect day is, wash my Road King, ride my RK, sit in my driveway with a beer and just look at my RK. The most beautiful thing Man has ever created. I'm in love with her, can you tell?
Have you addressed the hand wave motorcyclist give each other? I noticed there’s an etiquette of Harley waves at Harley…some Harleys wave at crotchrockets…trikes wave at everybody…BMW waves at no one. And so forth, it would make for an interesting study.
Is this a global thing? I don't see it so much in UK videos. I tend to wave to everyone (2 finger) and for the Spyder guys I throw them a third finger.
@@OldNotDead-Club Yep do a video - ive noticed it, most give you a nod but almost never Harley riders, I think this is a major reason other riders think their wankers and dont like to associate with them, perhaps a reason the younger Generation see the Harley thing as Clownish rather than Cool?
Certain bikes definitely stir an emotional response. When I was younger, (early 30's) I would avoid cluttering up my bike with an aftermarket windscreen and saddlebags cause I preferred the sleeker look over the function those addons offered. Now in my 40's I appreciate a windshield and bags, but NOTHING goes on the bike unless it enhances the look.
I started on a Honda Magna. First bike. Eventually got a Valkyrie. Finally rode a friend's sportster. My honest opinion was what a total piece of garbage, it's obnoxiously loud, shakes like a paint mixer, and the seat's uncomfortable. Then I read how Harley on year 2 (or maybe year 3) had to engineer their motors to be crappy so that they were loud and shaky. Sounded terrible to me. Then I met a friend who had a Road King. His road king had a matching little bitty trailer that he pulled. It was so beautiful. Every part was finely finished, the motor was not obnoxiously loud, the motor didn't shake like it was trying to escape the frame. Even the hard bags on the back were well done and well painted. Sweet gods in Asgard that was a beautiful, but tough looking bike. When he revved the motor and his wife squirmed a bit I decided the bike probably had just the right amount of vibration. When I took it for a test ride and i could see stuff in the rearview side mirrors I knew the shake wasn't too bad. Now it's on my bucket list. One day I want a Road King like that one. When form follows function, but time has been spent to make that form decorative or appealing, I think that's what does it for me. Function first, but then form is like icing on the cake.
Haley’s look like the most well put together and beefy They are on the spendy side but proud to own one I agree , most beautiful with the customization, my vote is for a Harley with ape hangers in black with white wall tires 50s style with modern cvo power Best looking in my opinion
@@OldNotDead-Club in north dekota , a lot of Harley riders And the community is tops . Old or young 99% are super nice and no bs attitude. Usa 🇺🇸 is still strong cuz of Harley riders and the military 😀
I ride a couple bikes. My number 1 is a 1991 Fatboy in factory blue! all original! I have a couch on wheels also 2009 Yamaha royalstar venture, love them both,,, But that EVO sound is the best and it looks cool as hell!
I’ve chosen function over form until recently.I’ve never adhered to the “chrome envy” crowd but I do like making my bike look different than others. I will agree Harleys are an artistic expression and they sound great. There is something about people ogling your ride and giving you a thumbs up.
There’s motorcycle riders, and then there’s Harley riders… for some reason people differentiate the two types of riders, for a reason… because there’s Harley Davidson, and everything else… 🇨🇦✌️😎
List of Good Looking Harley’s 1. Harley RG Spcl. 2. Harley RG ST, 3. Harley SG Spcl 4. Harley SG ST. 5. Pan Am 6. Harley Breakout - all others are a bit ugly. Indian has the 1. Challenger ( Dark Horse and Premium) 2. Chieftain 3. FTR 1200, BMW has the 1. R1250GS, R1250GSA, R1250RT, S100RR, S1000XR, K1600B, K1600GA, R18TC. Triumph 1. Speed Triple 2. Street Triple - a few others are also in the mix from the Bonneville line (except the Bobbers- blech).
And a shout out to all my yummy ladies riding these beautiful machines!!! For all of you in Melbourne see you at the Naked Racer not only is it eye candy the food and staff are amazing also .
I can almost feel the lineage of my 103 when l ride it, l feel all the riders of those previous decades sharing the same wonderful roar of the motor and pride in my machine as theirs. . Guess I should lay off the ‘shrooms 😂 On the RE debate, l had one and it felt just like l feel on my Harley- it is what it is and has a great history. Perfect for pottering and exploring SLOWLY. I’d say the Harley is the big brother of the Bullet.
Yes I agree with you, Harley Davidson’s are beautiful. I’ve spent my life believing that it’s function over form, Bauhaus if you like. But for some time now I’ve been craving a front mudguard chrome bumper and it’s coming to a head. I want this thing so bad it hurts, it’s only about $100 but I’ve always believed that if it does nothing - get rid of it. This little chrome bar is a nothing thing, but I’m going to do it. This is a major philosophical shift for me, and that’s the agony of it. But I’ve lusted after this thing for so long, I just have to do it. Will it open a floodgate though. I don’t really want to customise my whole bike (this time). It’s time< I’m going to do it for the ‘harmony’ in my life. I’ve,over Harley for decades and right or wrong, I’m doing it. The sound of a hog is just so manly. It’s bliss and I adore it. My Ducati Darmah sounds good too, different but good, especially on the over run. If you say Ducati repeatedly, it makes the same sound as the bike. Ducati, the name says it all. I should be a copy writer ! But the offbeat staccato of a big hog is bliss.
In 59 years of riding I've owned 90+% of the bike brands built. Some were good, some were not so good and some were a maintenance nightmare. It'sonly been the last 9 -10 years that I've been on Harleys and so far it's been a great run. Are they the best looking bikes ??? ........I think they are and that's all that matters.
Hi I think as you do that Harleys are the most beautiful custom motorcycle out there Love sports bikes and adventure bikes for the ability but they rely on plastic to hide the ugly Harleys hide behind nothing and mine has never let me down. Ride safe stay free whatever you ride
i'm not into the group thing, none of my friends ride. i'm more of a loner when it comes to riding but i love my 1980 flh and i recently sold my 02 heritage. i'd like to get a freewheeler sport trike because now i am old and maybe i could get my old lady on it.
Shes got to be beautiful (to me) before I ride her let alone own her. Aesthetics matter to almost everyone and that applies to many parts of our life. Personally I think many classic motorcycles are beautiful, Triumphs, Royal Enfield's, Norton's, Moto Guzzi, some Ducati's, some M/Vs, some Harley's, some BMW's and even 70s/80s JDM's. Royal Enfield's motto is "Built like a Gun since 1901" ie their 2 years older than Harley and been in continual production since then, being at least 1/3rd of the price of a Harley makes them pretty good value especially for new starters with taste for classic looks all being LAMs compatible. I can see RE potentially taking a good deal of Harleys market share in the next few years as the world economy circles the toilet once again. Cafe racers are my weak spot, form definitely over function even more so than Harley, I saw a Tiumph Thruxton in Thailand with a Norton Lyta tank and seat in a rose gold/copper finish, one of the most stunning bikes ive ever seen, some Harleys are beautiful but the Baggers to my eye look shocking and I would be almost embarrassed to be seen on one, the Chrome Soft tails and V-Rods are stunning and something id be eager to give a go one day. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, practicality and price do however make a difference in the real world, its only in the recently opulent West that motorcycles are considered a toy where resources can be squandered to build pieces of art, those days may be at an end unfortunately and I think Harley as a company will be one of the first ones to suffer with RE gunning for it like a Red Heeler hanging off the back end of a cow. Interesting times but lets do our best to keep beauty alive no matter what happens.
Royal Enfield has been in continuous production longer than H-D. And I would argue that the latest models, in particular the Classic 350 is on a par with H-D for the quality of finish and character of feel, but at a fraction of the price.
They had a break in the 70's and then an Indian company took over. They look great but they are slower than ... everything so great it you want to catch up on some reading or sleep as you ride
@@OldNotDead-Club I’m unaware of any break. The Madras factory started production in 1962 and the company in Redditch went tits up in 1970. As far as I’m aware production in India continued uninterrupted. Have you ever ridden one? They’re not as slow as people say they are. The 650 has all the power and torque any reasonable person would ever need in the real world. I own a Classic 350, after owning more powerful bikes I find she has plenty for me with unparalleled character and charm.
@@mockbattles lol maybe i'm not reasonable. I haven't ridden one, but I've ridden a triumph bonneville which has more power than a RE - i found it pleasant but underwhelming. 100hp with lots of torque is about as low as I would want to go. All the Harley's Ive owned were hopped up to at least this. I've also recently owned a Triumph Thruxton R and a z900RS both were fun bikes with about 110hp and loads of torque if i could justify multiple bikes i would have kept them both. It was a technical break for RE they were made under licence in India and when the company went under the Indian licencee purchased the equipment and rights and resumed production. That's my understanding of it.
@@OldNotDead-Club RE claim to be “the oldest Motorcycle company in continuous production.” H-D can at the least make that claim in its original location.
i disagree function over form. ive had baggers with windshields and comfortable seats fore well over 40 years. that said thats also what i find appealing to harleys. ive always liked fl front ends but a wide glide cool springer is also acceptable. i had choppers when i was a kid but comfort over fashion for sure.
@OldNotDead-Club ive got a under the truck tool box where my top box would go to carry my 90# pitbull. its not pretty but it works great. so yeah function.
'Pretty sure I had three points, but I'm tired so here's two. Royal Enfield is the longest continuous running motorcycle manufacturer. "Adventure" Bike owners aren't buying into anything other than that's as close to a Trail Bike anyone can lay their hands on these days. (And expanding on the above for a third point, form tends to blur into function with motorcycles.. e.g. your Gide covers miles better than.. ..a Trail Bike handles poor roads and Winters better than.. )
I agree about form and function lines being blurred. RE closed in the 70s and a company in India that was making bikes under their brand through licencing purchased their equipment and kept the brand rolling - so maybe yes maybe no? Re adventure bike riders YES they like everyone else are purchasing an image.
Personally as someone who prefers modern engines, modern designs and aesthetic, harley Davidson never struck with me. It always felt very artificial about all the freedom, outlaw etc aspect Everyone can be free, why would a harley make it diffrent compared to say a "boring" honda NT700? I just never understood and still don't understand the appeal to get a heavy, slow handling, very expensive to buy and insure(in europe you pay per cc), underpowered and old fashioned bike The whole "masculinity" thing also kinda bugs me. I see a lot of old farts that are overweight and have a bodyfat percentage of a very chubby woman, they don't work out, don't know how to fix their own bikes, yet this image is considered masculine I always think that its good that ppl love their harleys and feel good about owning, riding, modding them. It's just absolutely not my cup of tea
Each to their own, but if you don't understand exciting, inspiring bike vs boring (as per your comment above) what can i say? Plenty of non physical specimens on all types of bikes
@@OldNotDead-Club thats the thing. My definition of excitement and inspiring does not involve large 45° v-twins, vibrations and shouty exhausts Im searching for a reasons aside from very personal and biased ones from harley riders to actually own an ride a harley Have yet to find one But yes. To not let this comment escalate any further. To each their own
Function over form = BMW 1200GS 🤢 I'm allowed, I had one (for a very short eyesore time) 😁 I think most Harleys are an equal blend of both function and form😊... Yeah, some Ducatis are pretty and some become pretty ugly pretty quickly 😛Don't mind some classic Japanese sports bikes and some real old Indians and exclusive rare Brit bikes. I don't hate on all Bavarian propellors, In fact the R35 was piece of art 👌.
Nothing sounds or looks better on the road then a Harley Davidson motorcycle. Hearing sportbikes hit the rev limiter is akin to fingernails on a chalkboard.
@@OldNotDead-Club i mean i don't mind looking at them at a show but nothing i would care to ride. a friend of mine had an old knuckle with a super extended fork and i tried riding it and it was rediculous to me. i guess they're more for show. good luck and good ridin to ya.
You talk if function maybe more important than form in racing. So why, in the king of the baggers you picture, do they use those girls bikes (Road Glide)? I can only think it’s to give the opponents some kind of chance 🤷♂️
Persig's Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance put it differently, aethetics vs function I think. Honda is great but worst at fake aesthetics. Not fond on HD 1250 engine with a facade
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I have ridden Jap bikes and had a few British Classics for 35 years. Five years ago my brother let me ride his Harley. I got off the bike and thought, `now I understand`. Since then I've had 3 Harleys and the biggest smile on my face. They aren't as fast or the best handling bikes but I have never enjoyed riding any of my Jap bikes as much as my Harleys. They make me happy!
Yeah once you get it, that's it
I have to agree with you Amon, Ive ridden & restored bikes for 48 years all sorts Brit, Jap, Italian, German, road and dirtIve loved them all but my Harley has the true biker soul we all love. Im now to old to go fast so its comfort soul and longhaul on my bagger for me now as my forever bike....love ya show ✌🥇⭐
Thanks, much appreciated
They are nice out the box but get even better once customised
That's very true
Harleys certainly have an undeniable beauty. The heartbeat of the engine gets me every time.
Thanks mate, so true
Is there any better feeling than pulling up and a strangers comes up a says “love your bike, that sounds awesome” or when kids at the lights want you to give it a rev.!?
Your baby, your creation, your expression of self, and the community that surrounds riding HD
Great point, thanks
I've owned a lot of bikes from Honda's to Suzuki's and a couple of Kawasaki's...the plain truth of the matter is the best bike and it's not even close is my Harley Davidson from fit to finish and function I love to look at the way the bike looks and riding my bike is even better it just glides when I ride and that sound man I'm in heaven when you feel the wind and hear that Harley purrrr...yeah it's that good you have to own one to know...ohhh yeah my bike is a 2016 CVO SG love my bike
Thanks spot on!
so true true words said. people do get jealous. and envy
Very true you should see the comments when I post this in a FB motorcycle group lol.
Many a true word spoken in jest - like your style. - Excellent. 🤜👍
Lol, funny how many people take it deadly seriously and get triggered
Awesome video as always mate....At the end of the day...."Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!!!" Does it really matter what anyone thinks about other bikes, brands, etc. The most important thing in life...is do what makes you happy and appreciate what you have! If you see something that looks cool....tell the owner. Enjoy its looks, admire it and smile! 😎
Thanks much appreciated and wise words 👍
I agree with you bro. They are so much more than just a motorcycle. 👌🏼💯
Thanks, appreciated
Of course you are correct all hail the harley davidson especially low riders
Love the Low rider!
I will be keeping an eye on the comments of this one 😂🤣 Good work buddy 👍🏼
Lol, me too. Thank you.
Motorcycles in general bring people together. Harley does it with a little more style. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Odis, much appreciated
Took my wife to a Harley dealership for her first time, first thing out her mouth was “this is art”. Me knowing I can get a bike now 😅
Lol, you are on a good thing!!
@@OldNotDead-Club That’s what she said🤣😂😂😂🤣😂
I own 2 Harleys a 1997 Heritage Vicla will never sell it looks so beautiful..And i got a Ultra 2021 Stage 2+ i luvit probably last bike will buy... I had Jap and British i like the Triumphs but come on a modified Harley is sweeet...😊
Thanks wise words
Harley has both form and function. Each one is a blank slate with an endless amount of customizing capacity. As far as function goes, I now have a 2019 Ultra Limited, and it is one hell of a machine, from the heated grips to the radiator cooled heads. It is so torqued out that on the open road its just a beast, but also amazing on the twisty turny's (is that a proper word?) a few days ago I left the 319 turns of the Tail of the Dragon in the Smokey Mountains and that engine was screaming for more. When Judas Priest wrote Turbo Lovers they weren't thinking of Honda or Yamaha's so keep that in mind.
Lol, thanks great comment
Ive had all kinds, but nothing has that classic vibe like HD.
Thanks, spot on!
You didn't disappoint with the girlfriend, I was thinking pup or bike ..
lol, beautiful girl!
Objection, the spice of life! Great video..again. I picked up a new FLHTK and ordered over $1500.00 in custom parts before I even rode it home. No one has one like it, or like yours, his, hers, and, theirs. just saying.
Thanks, that's the truth!
Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Sound. When i got my yamaha roadstars, the first thing i did was change the pipes to now i realize, to sound like a harley. (Well close). Looks. My favourite looks were my o6, and 10 triumph rocket 111’s. I just liked going out and looking at them. My indian springfield was bought for comfort. Looked good . Stage 1 sounded ok. Then i just bought an 07 Fatboy . (7500 kms)After market pipes black with red highlights and amazing chrome. I’ll tell you what, this thing is beautiful and loud. The loud will get me into trouble here. A lot of Towns and cities have created noise bylaws for motorcycles. I don’t care! LOVE IT
yea you can make a Japanese bike loud but with even firing they they wont ever sound like Harley Davidson
Love the Fat Boy
Regards the actual bike, I always went with form over function - though as I got wiser and older they tended to balance out.... and dare I say now in my 'grey beard' days function (read - comfort) might be taking over.
One question you might want to explore - Why do so many long term HD riders/ owners hold a particular disdain for the actual 'company'... the corporate entity as such.
Note - I'm not talking about recent 'mid life crisis' converts - I'm talking about 'long termers'... bods who've been punting them around for the last 40+ years.
And yep ... another good video.👍
Thanks, much appreciated. Maybe they hang onto the old prices and forget that everything is going up in cost. Maybe just holding onto the "old days" and dont like change, very hard to say - but you are correct there is a lot of disdain for the 'company'
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Thank you that's MUCH appreciated
"Old guys rule, old school cool." But we don't all see the same thing constitutes beauty.
Thank you - very true
Loud pipes do NOT save lives, but they do sound awesome.
Love your channel and philosophy.
Thanks that's appreciated. Why do you think loud pipes do not save lives?
Physics! Essentially a person in car cannot hear a loud exhaust pipe (110dB A weighted) unless it is within 30ft of the vehicle. However while traveling at highway speeds (and your exhaust shooting to the rear of the bike) any reaction would be too late, so it doesn’t really help the situation eh? I guess the other point I’d add to this is that, at least here in the States, the overwhelming majority of accidents involving motorcycles are cars pulling in front of us meaning the problem is ahead of us not behind us. All of this said, I love loud pipes and am not against them. They sound great and are one of the many reasons I love my bike. Keep doing what you do, the biker world needs your outlooks! Cheers.
@@hanfordpittman592 That car at the junction may hear you coming from around the corner, parked traffic etc.
@@simoncaddick9085 that’s true, they might. Statistically though, 70% of motorcycle accidents are from vehicles turning left into or right in front of motorcycles. So to me it seems like it doesn’t seem to work on that scenario either.
@@hanfordpittman592 yes that's the old argument. Having ridden both Harley's and other brands for 40 years drivers do hear you (it may only be a split second early) but it makes a HUGE difference. I'm not suggesting that it prevents all accidents. I am saying it prevents some. I and many others have extensive personal experience with this, physics is only correct when applied correctly.
I’ll say that’s objective but agree, they are beautiful. That said I also like the R1M and Panigale and BMW GS1250 and Honda Ruckus and… own a 2018 Heritage 114. Iconic is spot on and the sound is amazing.
Yeah there are some beautiful bikes around
Harley ticks All Those boxes and I've not had a tougher canvas ,,💯👍
Thanks I agree
Never a truer word spoken! No bikes come close to Harleys for form or function. 🇬🇧
Thanks
Great vid Aymen, no arguments from me and all valid points. Harleys are unequivacally the most beautiful motorcycles in the world!
Thanks much appreciated
Not as beautiful as most Harley Davidsons but don't forget the mid 70's CB 750's !
My idea of a perfect day is, wash my Road King, ride my RK, sit in my driveway with a beer and just look at my RK. The most beautiful thing Man has ever created.
I'm in love with her, can you tell?
lol, yes i can tell! ... the RK is an awesome bike and you are correct the 70's Honda's are iconic and very nice looking.
Well done
Thank you
The most iconic and beautiful bike for me is the MFP KZ1000P in Mad Max. My 2018 Heritage 114 with stage 2 S&S 475 is also nice.
Thanks, both great bikes. My first full size bike was the z1000 it was awesome
Yes the 1970’s Kawasaki Z’s ….the only motorcycle to have the same cult following as Harley Davidson👊
Ever since I was very little, I have always wanted a Harley Davidson long before I looked at a power ranger bike, not to mention they are therapeutic
They are great for the soul
Nice Karmann Ghia, another air cooled classic. A lot of nice bikes over there in Oz, good vid.
Thanks
🤣in the there was a ad "should have gone to spec saver's"
Lol
Harleys are Artwork You Can Ride.
Thats it! Thanks
Have you addressed the hand wave motorcyclist give each other? I noticed there’s an etiquette of Harley waves at Harley…some Harleys wave at crotchrockets…trikes wave at everybody…BMW waves at no one. And so forth, it would make for an interesting study.
I have a Road King and a GSA, I wave at everyone. We’re all out having fun, I enjoy the company.
Is this a global thing? I don't see it so much in UK videos. I tend to wave to everyone (2 finger) and for the Spyder guys I throw them a third finger.
I have addressed this a million times in comments, maybe its time to do a video.
I guess being a new by to your channel I need to go back and see your prior videos. I wave at everyone too, including the “police ahead” helmet tap
@@OldNotDead-Club Yep do a video - ive noticed it, most give you a nod but almost never Harley riders, I think this is a major reason other riders think their wankers and dont like to associate with them, perhaps a reason the younger Generation see the Harley thing as Clownish rather than Cool?
Certain bikes definitely stir an emotional response. When I was younger, (early 30's) I would avoid cluttering up my bike with an aftermarket windscreen and saddlebags cause I preferred the sleeker look over the function those addons offered. Now in my 40's I appreciate a windshield and bags, but NOTHING goes on the bike unless it enhances the look.
Similar to my view over time
Nice work mate
Thanks much appreciated
I started on a Honda Magna. First bike. Eventually got a Valkyrie. Finally rode a friend's sportster. My honest opinion was what a total piece of garbage, it's obnoxiously loud, shakes like a paint mixer, and the seat's uncomfortable. Then I read how Harley on year 2 (or maybe year 3) had to engineer their motors to be crappy so that they were loud and shaky. Sounded terrible to me. Then I met a friend who had a Road King. His road king had a matching little bitty trailer that he pulled. It was so beautiful. Every part was finely finished, the motor was not obnoxiously loud, the motor didn't shake like it was trying to escape the frame. Even the hard bags on the back were well done and well painted. Sweet gods in Asgard that was a beautiful, but tough looking bike. When he revved the motor and his wife squirmed a bit I decided the bike probably had just the right amount of vibration. When I took it for a test ride and i could see stuff in the rearview side mirrors I knew the shake wasn't too bad. Now it's on my bucket list. One day I want a Road King like that one. When form follows function, but time has been spent to make that form decorative or appealing, I think that's what does it for me. Function first, but then form is like icing on the cake.
The RK is an awesome bike
Haley’s look like the most well put together and beefy
They are on the spendy side but proud to own one
I agree , most beautiful with the customization, my vote is for a Harley with ape hangers in black with white wall tires
50s style with modern cvo power
Best looking in my opinion
Yeah they look great like that
@@OldNotDead-Club in north dekota , a lot of Harley riders
And the community is tops . Old or young
99% are super nice and no bs attitude. Usa 🇺🇸 is still strong cuz of Harley riders and the military
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I bought a Sportster to ride for transportation not a work of art.25yrs old & still going strong.
Yep they last well!
Long live Harley Davidson…💪💪💪🇦🇺
Yes!
I ride a couple bikes. My number 1 is a 1991 Fatboy in factory blue! all original! I have a couch on wheels also 2009 Yamaha royalstar venture, love them both,,, But that EVO sound is the best and it looks cool as hell!
Thanks, yep the Evo's sound awesome - you are lucky to have one
Great video I totally agree
Thank you, much appreciated
I’ve chosen function over form until recently.I’ve never adhered to the “chrome envy” crowd but I do like making my bike look different than others. I will agree Harleys are an artistic expression and they sound great. There is something about people ogling your ride and giving you a thumbs up.
Thanks, you can do a lot with them
There’s motorcycle riders, and then there’s Harley riders… for some reason people differentiate the two types of riders, for a reason… because there’s Harley Davidson, and everything else…
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Spot on again! lol
List of Good Looking Harley’s 1. Harley RG Spcl. 2. Harley RG ST, 3. Harley SG Spcl 4. Harley SG ST. 5. Pan Am 6. Harley Breakout - all others are a bit ugly. Indian has the 1. Challenger ( Dark Horse and Premium) 2. Chieftain 3. FTR 1200, BMW has the 1. R1250GS, R1250GSA, R1250RT, S100RR, S1000XR, K1600B, K1600GA, R18TC. Triumph 1. Speed Triple 2. Street Triple - a few others are also in the mix from the Bonneville line (except the Bobbers- blech).
Thanks!
super solid!
Thank you much appreciated
I enjoyed this clip Ayman
Thank you that's appreciated
Of course they are...why else would we give them female names. They are amazingly personal and beautiful in their own form...and to be respected.
Thanks I agree
Female... Like Roadking? 🤔
And a shout out to all my yummy ladies riding these beautiful machines!!!
For all of you in Melbourne see you at the Naked Racer not only is it eye candy the food and staff are amazing also .
I should do a video on that lol
@@OldNotDead-Club Yes please❤️
I can almost feel the lineage of my 103 when l ride it, l feel all the riders of those previous decades sharing the same wonderful roar of the motor and pride in my machine as theirs. .
Guess I should lay off the ‘shrooms 😂
On the RE debate, l had one and it felt just like l feel on my Harley- it is what it is and has a great history. Perfect for pottering and exploring SLOWLY. I’d say the Harley is the big brother of the Bullet.
Thanks for watching
Yes I agree with you, Harley Davidson’s are beautiful. I’ve spent my life believing that it’s function over form, Bauhaus if you like. But for some time now I’ve been craving a front mudguard chrome bumper and it’s coming to a head. I want this thing so bad it hurts, it’s only about $100 but I’ve always believed that if it does nothing - get rid of it. This little chrome bar is a nothing thing, but I’m going to do it. This is a major philosophical shift for me, and that’s the agony of it. But I’ve lusted after this thing for so long, I just have to do it. Will it open a floodgate though. I don’t really want to customise my whole bike (this time). It’s time< I’m going to do it for the ‘harmony’ in my life. I’ve,over Harley for decades and right or wrong, I’m doing it. The sound of a hog is just so manly. It’s bliss and I adore it. My Ducati Darmah sounds good too, different but good, especially on the over run. If you say Ducati repeatedly, it makes the same sound as the bike. Ducati, the name says it all. I should be a copy writer ! But the offbeat staccato of a big hog is bliss.
I dont think there is a right or wrong, follow your heart and desire
In 59 years of riding I've owned 90+% of the bike brands built. Some were good, some were not so good and some were a maintenance nightmare. It'sonly been the last 9 -10 years that I've been on Harleys and so far it's been a great run. Are they the best looking bikes ??? ........I think they are and that's all that matters.
Lol, you are spot on
Hi I think as you do that Harleys are the most beautiful custom motorcycle out there
Love sports bikes and adventure bikes for the ability but they rely on plastic to hide the ugly Harleys hide behind nothing and mine has never let me down. Ride safe stay free whatever you ride
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Thank you
Stock Bikes SUCK❗
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You are correct, thanks Tex
i'm not into the group thing, none of my friends ride. i'm more of a loner when it comes to riding but i love my 1980 flh and i recently sold my 02 heritage. i'd like to get a freewheeler sport trike because now i am old and maybe i could get my old lady on it.
Stay young!
Have you ever reviewed a Yamaha Raider? I am interested to hear your thoughts.
No I haven't had the pleasure
What's got into you that was great video and editing like you stepped it up thanks
Ps last year I dated her to
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Shes got to be beautiful (to me) before I ride her let alone own her.
Aesthetics matter to almost everyone and that applies to many parts of our life.
Personally I think many classic motorcycles are beautiful, Triumphs, Royal Enfield's, Norton's, Moto Guzzi, some Ducati's, some M/Vs, some Harley's, some BMW's and even 70s/80s JDM's.
Royal Enfield's motto is "Built like a Gun since 1901" ie their 2 years older than Harley and been in continual production since then, being at least 1/3rd of the price of a Harley makes them pretty good value especially for new starters with taste for classic looks all being LAMs compatible.
I can see RE potentially taking a good deal of Harleys market share in the next few years as the world economy circles the toilet once again.
Cafe racers are my weak spot, form definitely over function even more so than Harley, I saw a Tiumph Thruxton in Thailand with a Norton Lyta tank and seat in a rose gold/copper finish, one of the most stunning bikes ive ever seen, some Harleys are beautiful but the Baggers to my eye look shocking and I would be almost embarrassed to be seen on one, the Chrome Soft tails and V-Rods are stunning and something id be eager to give a go one day.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, practicality and price do however make a difference in the real world, its only in the recently opulent West that motorcycles are considered a toy where resources can be squandered to build pieces of art, those days may be at an end unfortunately and I think Harley as a company will be one of the first ones to suffer with RE gunning for it like a Red Heeler hanging off the back end of a cow.
Interesting times but lets do our best to keep beauty alive no matter what happens.
Thanks for the wise words
Royal Enfield has been in continuous production longer than H-D.
And I would argue that the latest models, in particular the Classic 350 is on a par with H-D for the quality of finish and character of feel, but at a fraction of the price.
They had a break in the 70's and then an Indian company took over. They look great but they are slower than ... everything so great it you want to catch up on some reading or sleep as you ride
@@OldNotDead-Club I’m unaware of any break. The Madras factory started production in 1962 and the company in Redditch went tits up in 1970.
As far as I’m aware production in India continued uninterrupted.
Have you ever ridden one?
They’re not as slow as people say they are. The 650 has all the power and torque any reasonable person would ever need in the real world.
I own a Classic 350, after owning more powerful bikes I find she has plenty for me with unparalleled character and charm.
@@mockbattles lol maybe i'm not reasonable. I haven't ridden one, but I've ridden a triumph bonneville which has more power than a RE - i found it pleasant but underwhelming. 100hp with lots of torque is about as low as I would want to go. All the Harley's Ive owned were hopped up to at least this. I've also recently owned a Triumph Thruxton R and a z900RS both were fun bikes with about 110hp and loads of torque if i could justify multiple bikes i would have kept them both.
It was a technical break for RE they were made under licence in India and when the company went under the Indian licencee purchased the equipment and rights and resumed production. That's my understanding of it.
@@OldNotDead-Club RE claim to be “the oldest Motorcycle company in continuous production.”
H-D can at the least make that claim in its original location.
Well I consider my two the most beautiful and they just happen to be Harleys, so I have to agree.
Lol thanks
Thanks for the great content. I agree with your conclusion. Love my 22 Heritage Classic.
Thanks for watching
Keep making videos to validate your purchase.
Lol, thanks I almost forgot why I made a YT channel
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i disagree function over form. ive had baggers with windshields and comfortable seats fore well over 40 years. that said thats also what i find appealing to harleys. ive always liked fl front ends but a wide glide cool springer is also acceptable. i had choppers when i was a kid but comfort over fashion for sure.
I like to blend the two - I guess it depends on the bike
@OldNotDead-Club ive got a under the truck tool box where my top box would go to carry my 90# pitbull. its not pretty but it works great. so yeah function.
Facts don’t care what anyone thinks of them.
That's true
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Thank you
'Pretty sure I had three points, but I'm tired so here's two.
Royal Enfield is the longest continuous running motorcycle manufacturer.
"Adventure" Bike owners aren't buying into anything other than that's as close to a Trail Bike anyone can lay their hands on these days.
(And expanding on the above for a third point, form tends to blur into function with motorcycles.. e.g. your Gide covers miles better than.. ..a Trail Bike handles poor roads and Winters better than.. )
I agree about form and function lines being blurred. RE closed in the 70s and a company in India that was making bikes under their brand through licencing purchased their equipment and kept the brand rolling - so maybe yes maybe no? Re adventure bike riders YES they like everyone else are purchasing an image.
Yep
It just needs a large enough tank
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lol, thanks
They are great, they look old even new, ooooor is it they look new even when old..?? I like my carbureted soft-deluxe the best though😊…
Personally as someone who prefers modern engines, modern designs and aesthetic, harley Davidson never struck with me. It always felt very artificial about all the freedom, outlaw etc aspect
Everyone can be free, why would a harley make it diffrent compared to say a "boring" honda NT700?
I just never understood and still don't understand the appeal to get a heavy, slow handling, very expensive to buy and insure(in europe you pay per cc), underpowered and old fashioned bike
The whole "masculinity" thing also kinda bugs me. I see a lot of old farts that are overweight and have a bodyfat percentage of a very chubby woman, they don't work out, don't know how to fix their own bikes, yet this image is considered masculine
I always think that its good that ppl love their harleys and feel good about owning, riding, modding them.
It's just absolutely not my cup of tea
Each to their own, but if you don't understand exciting, inspiring bike vs boring (as per your comment above) what can i say? Plenty of non physical specimens on all types of bikes
@@OldNotDead-Club thats the thing. My definition of excitement and inspiring does not involve large 45° v-twins, vibrations and shouty exhausts
Im searching for a reasons aside from very personal and biased ones from harley riders to actually own an ride a harley
Have yet to find one
But yes. To not let this comment escalate any further. To each their own
Function over form = BMW 1200GS 🤢 I'm allowed, I had one (for a very short eyesore time) 😁 I think most Harleys are an equal blend of both function and form😊... Yeah, some Ducatis are pretty and some become pretty ugly pretty quickly 😛Don't mind some classic Japanese sports bikes and some real old Indians and exclusive rare Brit bikes. I don't hate on all Bavarian propellors, In fact the R35 was piece of art 👌.
So many beautiful bikes, thanks for watching
Nothing sounds or looks better on the road then a Harley Davidson motorcycle. Hearing sportbikes hit the rev limiter is akin to fingernails on a chalkboard.
Thanks, spot on
Function over form people wear crocs
Lol
Have you seen the new Electra Glide ? 😉
Yep looks great!
i like harley davidson only but straight up, not the heavy customs.
Thanks, I guess everyone has different tastes. That's the beauty of bike shows like this one
@@OldNotDead-Club i mean i don't mind looking at them at a show but nothing i would care to ride. a friend of mine had an old knuckle with a super extended fork and i tried riding it and it was rediculous to me. i guess they're more for show. good luck and good ridin to ya.
You talk if function maybe more important than form in racing. So why, in the king of the baggers you picture, do they use those girls bikes (Road Glide)? I can only think it’s to give the opponents some kind of chance 🤷♂️
lol
What about Indian?
They seem ok but it's not the same, maybe in time
Persig's Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance put it differently, aethetics vs function I think. Honda is great but worst at fake aesthetics. Not fond on HD 1250 engine with a facade
No two Harley's are the same. That's why.
That's true, thanks
definitely nothing appealing to being folded up on sport bike
So true
If I’m going to folded over in uncomfortable positions it’s going to be because I’m with the little Thai chick down the massage parlour 😂
Form won't get you home as for beauty they all look the same.
Interesting perspective. "they all look the same" means you are either blind, never seen a HD before or a Troll.