As a mental health professional, I’ve noticed that one of the most common delusions people have is that someone stole their idea/book/script/song etc… I’ve heard this story a million times.
This is why it’s SO important for if someone has an idea, such as a script or whatever - to write it down, mail themselves a copy, and never open it. That way, they have physical proof and time stamp of when they came up with the idea. However, also.. Quantum entanglement is very real, and people, often, get the same/similar ideas, at around the same time (there are even incidents in history, where patent were submitted on the same day, for the same design - and the people lived half way across the world from each other, and had never met). However, having that piece of mail has the potential to solve some legal problems, depending on the circumstances - in regards to providing if someone copied another or not. I learned this when I was pursing working in entertainment.
@@XOChristianaNicole mailing a copy for proof purposes works only to prove that you have the original version of a work - you cannot copyright an idea James Cameron's Avatar follows the same storyline as Disney's Pocahontas, but it's execution was different enough to be safe, there's no actual verbatim lines taken from Pocahontas, and no one would mistake the two.
The closest I have come to this is writing the beginning of a book and someone telling me it was similar to the vampire diaries and me abandoning it and finding out it was very not the same xD
It's lawyer language for the fact that they were not personally sent a copy of this book submitted into evidence to look over with their own two eyes. And it's not readily available in print on shelves in stores or such. Lol
I just checked Scott's goodreads and not only did they take credit for writing the screenplay of A Simple Favor and The Perks of Being a Wallflower, but also for The Maze Runner, Pitch Perfect and among many others...the first Twilight movie. Truly unhinged
As someone who also has seasonal depression, there is one good thing about it. Only one though. It's official name is Seasonal Affective Disorder, shortened to SAD. So we get to say shit like "I have the big SAD."
honestly this is like if 18 year old me took Kathleen Kennedy to court after watching the rise of skywalker because when I was 10 I wrote a whole headcanon where palpatine had a daughter and granddaughter because I was fed up of the lack of women characters lmao
having sex on the wedding night is totally never done before.... and getting sick while pregnant is so unique! Also who calls their wife "love".... imagine HAVING to pay thousands of dollars to deal with writing a book about this...
I was able to name a different movie for every “reason” that was listed for infringement. “Character turns into vampire?”, “mother looks at newborn baby?” I’m surprised, one of them wasn’t “boy falls in love with girl” 😂
YES same!! "woman is sick because pregnant with child who has evil powers" is literally Rosemary's Baby, which was made in the 60s!! or it's a general thing that happens a lot in real life, especially the ones having to do with pregnancy. this lawsuit was crazy
Jordan Scott is also the name of the "I ain't ever seen two pretty best friends" guy who was viral a few years ago and if that doesn't tell us this goes all the way to the top I don't know what does
@kayleejazz1669 tbh i just found it on pinterest but i looked it up to tell you where it's from and apparently it's ai generated, but it does look very familiar and has the general style of 90s anime
If you scroll down further on her goodreads, she claims to have contributed to the screenplays for Pitch Perfect; The Maze Runner; Tick, Tick... Boom; Trainwreck; a bunch of Coen brother films; Sing 2; Oculus; Atomic Blond; and the Making Coloring Great Again: the Political Coloring Book
imagining jordan scott sitting in this interview and saying things like "the husband having to cut the baby out" completely straight-faced is SENDING ME BABE PLS
about halfway through this so idk if you’ve talked about it but in terms of copyright drama: there’s this woman who is trying to claim ownership of characters who have sun powers.
I think I found the nocturne on Amazon? It has a 3/5 rating from 10 reviews, and it retails for 68.17. The description reads: “In war-torn, late medieval France, an ill-fated sorcerer must surrender his soul after tragedy strikes, and afterward struggle against his own power - in a future that has long been foretold - to redeem himself before being separated from his true love forever...” it says it’s by Jordan Scott and the reviewers all mention Twilight?
The "Meyer" vs "Meyers" thing is extra funny to me, whose maiden name is "Myers". I spent a lot of time correcting people that neither of those options were right 😅❤
I’d really like to know her thought process when choosing movies like a simple favor and perks of being a wallflower. Those movies are so drastically different😭
I am just worried about this woman’s mental health. 21 is a really normal onset for things like schizophrenia. I wholeheartedly believe that there’s something actually wrong with her.
i do not want to doxx her but if you really look into her life she is happy now and successful in her field (which im not gonna say but if you google around enough u can find it) alls this to say that in the end she is seemingly thriving
At some point it was actually turned into a very oddly formatted ebook so if you explore the high seas it's not hard to get your hands on a copy. She started the story when she was 15 and it's written in first person but it switches to a different character each chapter. So it's an...experience
i think its beyond funny that this person really said 'i own these common tropes that a lot of romance stories have! also no you cant read my book btw!' no one owns tropes lmao itd be depressing if people did
As someone in Toronto, I'm absolutely DEVASTATED I'm viewing this four weeks later and missed the hot docs event! I hope you do something similar again in the future :D
As an Edward roleplayer in Twilight readathons in my village, I have to admit, nobody ever discussed that plagiarism issue. First time I ever hear about this unhinged interview! Interesting information by the way, you got yourself a subscriber 🦇 Ps: Did you know that Carley reminds me of I Carly? Good series...
@uncarley @monique_wangra Yes. I voiced Edward's lines while one of the other folks (usually the least vampire friendly and more of a Teen Wolf guy) would voice Jacob's. Usually my best lady friend had Bella's lines. Relationship goals :P @turkicnomad5632 I didn't look like Edward but since we were vampy folk ever since the vampire diaries books, and the Twilight movies didn't reach us until 2010, nobody minded. Also, 2015 was my favorite year ever. I got to roleplay Beaufort Swan, but I preferred Bella's more eloquent words. Beaufort's lines seemed like a Percy Jackson novel...
If Stephanie plagiarized from anything, I'd be Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. A suspiciously high amount of similarities in plot points and themes
"I have an award-winning script, and three other scripts in various stages. Wow. I love school, writing, music and of course Boys". Is... is she an AI?
Not just Twilight, but the Host as well. There was an older book at my ex boyfriend's house that belonged to his mother that she let me borrow. For the life of me, I cannot remember the name of it, but it was almost 1:1 with the Host, with slight changes to the names of the characters and the alien races. I thought it was strange, so i asked my exes' mom about it, and she said it was a pretty common thing for bigger name authors to buy out books/plots of stories that flopped long before to publish them under their name for modern audiences.
When you say at 21 you’re at your peak unhinged behavior GIIRRLL I felt it in my soul I’m 23 only two years since 21 and let me tell you I was so unhinged for no fcking reason like (??? I am back to normal but it left scars haha 😂❤
I own two nocturne books. It’s a series of different books by different authors. The publishing company is Harlequin. I don’t own Jordan Scott’s but I do own one by Jenna Kernan and one by Karen Whiddon
I'm just listening to twilight as an audiobook for the first time, never read it when it came out and I've never seen the movies or anything, TBH i was just using the audiobook to fall asleep but then i had bad insomnia one night and i actually listened to a bunch of it and now I'm invested
21:03 it’s actually not super easy to add credits to your IMDb and very easy to get them removed by the studio. So while I doubt this person wrote A Simple Favour they probably did work on the film in some capacity.
my jaw dropped during the intro because you mentioned stardew valley and bed rotting. I literally clicked this video after playing stardew in my bed for the past 2 hours lol you’re not alone girly
This had me thinking, if someone wanted to claim that JK Rolling stole the harry potter books from another author, all the fans hate her so much, they'd probably just let it happen.
Love this video! The thumbnail is fantastic and is giving Kubrick's Stare but from a Pachycephalosaurus. Like I'm about to get head-butted into oblivion.
I haven’t watched the video yet, but if I made something that I though could have caused the existence of twilight, I think I’d be too embarrassed to tell anyone 😭
can't believe pulitzer prize winning youtuber uncarley also wrote shawshank redemption. she is so talented we have to stan
this is all so true
😂😂😂😂
I was going to comment something similar. She is so amazing cause I'm pretty sure she was a baby when she wrote that! 🤣
Imagine that you study your ass off in Law school just to be a judge in a case where you have to decide if Breaking Dawn was plagiarized or not
Tbh kinda iconic. It's a historical event i would say
straight on my CV
Sounds good enough. Highkey this gave me the motivation to keep studying law 😂😂😂😂
@@ana-nim I know, right? But it's just so funny to me 🤣
peanuts compared to the omegaverse lawsuit
The fact that she called "sex scene after marriage" plagiarism is sending me.
Same. I simply cannot. 😂
And bleeding after child birth💀
The male character professes his love for the female character
ive copyrighted the concept of having sex on your honeymoon
@@LilyEvans1996 Not only that, but calling your S/O "love" has never been done before. Pack it in, kindly British moms, you're going to court soon.
As a mental health professional, I’ve noticed that one of the most common delusions people have is that someone stole their idea/book/script/song etc… I’ve heard this story a million times.
Lmao that's so wild.
This is why it’s SO important for if someone has an idea, such as a script or whatever - to write it down, mail themselves a copy, and never open it.
That way, they have physical proof and time stamp of when they came up with the idea.
However, also.. Quantum entanglement is very real, and people, often, get the same/similar ideas, at around the same time (there are even incidents in history, where patent were submitted on the same day, for the same design - and the people lived half way across the world from each other, and had never met).
However, having that piece of mail has the potential to solve some legal problems, depending on the circumstances - in regards to providing if someone copied another or not.
I learned this when I was pursing working in entertainment.
@@XOChristianaNicole mailing a copy for proof purposes works only to prove that you have the original version of a work - you cannot copyright an idea
James Cameron's Avatar follows the same storyline as Disney's Pocahontas, but it's execution was different enough to be safe, there's no actual verbatim lines taken from Pocahontas, and no one would mistake the two.
The closest I have come to this is writing the beginning of a book and someone telling me it was similar to the vampire diaries and me abandoning it and finding out it was very not the same xD
it's been called character trait acquisition by HG Tudor
carley where the hell have you been loca
of course mommy
in bed playing stardew valley depressed!!!
Hachette calling The Nocturne a "supposed book" in their statement (12:15) is SENDING ME even though I know it's probably just lawyer language
the dunk of the century
I WAS LOOKING FOR A COMMENT ABOUT THIS
It's lawyer language for the fact that they were not personally sent a copy of this book submitted into evidence to look over with their own two eyes. And it's not readily available in print on shelves in stores or such. Lol
Supposed book because we can’t even find it 😂 we need to find itttt
@@mary5305j I found a pdf online, but youtube doesn't allow commenting links. 😂
I just checked Scott's goodreads and not only did they take credit for writing the screenplay of A Simple Favor and The Perks of Being a Wallflower, but also for The Maze Runner, Pitch Perfect and among many others...the first Twilight movie. Truly unhinged
whaaaatttt
its giving cray cray
Tick Tick Boom too
@@averyfilmsstuff
OK the delusions must be delusion-ing because there’s no way this person took credit for an autobiography of someone else
@@dshank536 its actually bonkers i highly recommend browsing her goodreads
The judge had to read both books to decide, horrible, poor victim.
As someone who also has seasonal depression, there is one good thing about it. Only one though. It's official name is Seasonal Affective Disorder, shortened to SAD. So we get to say shit like "I have the big SAD."
oh BIG SAD
forever calling this season the big SAD. thank you!
As someone who's suffering form the effects of blood loss anemia, I have a big SAD too 😢
Big Sad is taking over our government … 😂
i have SAD too... i feel so SAD now
honestly this is like if 18 year old me took Kathleen Kennedy to court after watching the rise of skywalker because when I was 10 I wrote a whole headcanon where palpatine had a daughter and granddaughter because I was fed up of the lack of women characters lmao
Only if you actually publicly published it somewhere!😂
Howling at the Twilight wedding being “every Pinterest wedding” bc this couldn’t be more accurate
Direct attack against me because I made a Pinterest board *about* the twilight wedding 😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂
@@Beeslaughterthe missiles are locked on your location
It’s almost remarkable how committed you are to not making eye contact with the camera
ADHD is my superpower
honestly I appreciate it because I also hate eye contact
LOL I didn’t even notice 😂 both of us avoiding imaginary eye contact
Honestly that's just a good sign that she's not a sociopath
having sex on the wedding night is totally never done before.... and getting sick while pregnant is so unique! Also who calls their wife "love".... imagine HAVING to pay thousands of dollars to deal with writing a book about this...
I was able to name a different movie for every “reason” that was listed for infringement. “Character turns into vampire?”, “mother looks at newborn baby?”
I’m surprised, one of them wasn’t “boy falls in love with girl” 😂
or the biggest one - 'main character is not like other girls'
Or, the teenage girl protagonist goes to school!!!
Yes, but how many movies could you name with all of the reasons in one movie? 🤔 (I'm genuinely curious, I feel like there has to be at least one!😂😂)
YES same!! "woman is sick because pregnant with child who has evil powers" is literally Rosemary's Baby, which was made in the 60s!! or it's a general thing that happens a lot in real life, especially the ones having to do with pregnancy. this lawsuit was crazy
Honestly “her supposed book” is just so funny to me. Like, her book made such little impact that it may just not even exist. Incredible
I’m a simple woman: I see Carley, I click. I see Carley AND Twilight, I order food and make it an EVENT.
omg this is such a vibe
Not me sitting here eating the Taco Bell I ordered specifically to watch this video lmao
Jordan Scott talking about her ability to be a model and make an album is giving such Kendall Jenner energy and I cannot fully explain why
Jordan Scott is also the name of the "I ain't ever seen two pretty best friends" guy who was viral a few years ago and if that doesn't tell us this goes all the way to the top I don't know what does
You needn't say more!
she strikes again with the most relevant topics thank you queen
anytime bestie!
@kayleejazz1669 tbh i just found it on pinterest but i looked it up to tell you where it's from and apparently it's ai generated, but it does look very familiar and has the general style of 90s anime
“Wow. I love school, writing, music, and of course Boys” is honestly the motto that I try to live up to. Jordan Scott is so inspiring!
If you scroll down further on her goodreads, she claims to have contributed to the screenplays for Pitch Perfect; The Maze Runner; Tick, Tick... Boom; Trainwreck; a bunch of Coen brother films; Sing 2; Oculus; Atomic Blond; and the Making Coloring Great Again: the Political Coloring Book
Oh wow 😳 And Tick Tick, Boom is a very recent one, so Jordan is somehow *still* on their bullshit. Incredible.
@@thecavalieryouth so is Sing 2... crazy
So...mental health issues maybe?
The fact that Hachette called The Nocturne a “supposed book” 💀💀💀
I found the book on Amazon used for $68 which is honestly a steal for the amount of history it has
Its at $163 now 😂
imagining jordan scott sitting in this interview and saying things like "the husband having to cut the baby out" completely straight-faced is SENDING ME BABE PLS
Carley is correct its pronounced Meyers, the s is always printed in invisible ink
Only mother Carley deserves podcast mic privileges
thank u
about halfway through this so idk if you’ve talked about it but in terms of copyright drama: there’s this woman who is trying to claim ownership of characters who have sun powers.
I think I found the nocturne on Amazon? It has a 3/5 rating from 10 reviews, and it retails for 68.17. The description reads: “In war-torn, late medieval France, an ill-fated sorcerer must surrender his soul after tragedy strikes, and afterward struggle against his own power - in a future that has long been foretold - to redeem himself before being separated from his true love forever...”
it says it’s by Jordan Scott and the reviewers all mention Twilight?
The "Meyer" vs "Meyers" thing is extra funny to me, whose maiden name is "Myers". I spent a lot of time correcting people that neither of those options were right 😅❤
This is like the omegaverse lawsuit’s younger sister, I love it
Everyone else is following the Harvard plagiarism scandal like this isn’t where the real tea is
every time you post it adds 20 years to my life 🙏🏼🙏🏼 thank you for rejuvenating us
happy to help!
Perfect random gym video to listen to
oh this is such a compliment
I DEVOURED my soup while watching this. It was like sitting across from a friend at lunch as they told you all the tea.
What kind of soup ??? I need inspo
@@bunnyfrosting1744 Idk what kind of soup they had but I just made some Thai red curry coconut chicken soup and it's pretty great 🔥
OH MY GOODNESS ME TOO!!!! I wish we could upload photos to show each other our soups.
I’d really like to know her thought process when choosing movies like a simple favor and perks of being a wallflower. Those movies are so drastically different😭
Probably just things she liked
"supposed book" is a savage phrase
JRR Tolkien laying claim to the hero’s journey TOOK ME OUT and also took me back to freshman year advanced English 😂
when carley said "because im human. just like you." it felt like a threat
i'm so glad i wasn't paying attention until like. 2015 . i now get to hear all of this drama after it and i have developed
same bestie
"late night with stephanie meyers" has incredible potential to be an intrusive thought of mine for the next several months i fear
Love your username and icon :)
i’m sitting down to binge the twilight series and I see this first thing. tell me a better way to start the marathon than an iconic carley video
YESSS
I'm not even a twilight fan, i just love knowing niche drama
my mom told me to wash her crockpot- i informed her carley just posted, the crockpot has to wait
Have you checked again? It might be on fire rn
I am just worried about this woman’s mental health. 21 is a really normal onset for things like schizophrenia. I wholeheartedly believe that there’s something actually wrong with her.
i do not want to doxx her but if you really look into her life she is happy now and successful in her field (which im not gonna say but if you google around enough u can find it) alls this to say that in the end she is seemingly thriving
@@uncarley I really really hope so. I want the best for people in general, even if they were absolutely unhinged in their early 20’s.
I just started the video and I TRULY thought you were talking about Carley for a hot second
@@syddlebyddle12 who said it wasn’t about Carley?🤪😂
Bit of a stretch to jump from plagiarism accusation to schizophrenia.
“I wrote shawshank, I love prison!” Had me crying with laughter 😂
wait it's not meyers?!??? treason
RIGHT!!?
At some point it was actually turned into a very oddly formatted ebook so if you explore the high seas it's not hard to get your hands on a copy. She started the story when she was 15 and it's written in first person but it switches to a different character each chapter. So it's an...experience
i think its beyond funny that this person really said 'i own these common tropes that a lot of romance stories have! also no you cant read my book btw!' no one owns tropes lmao itd be depressing if people did
As someone in Toronto, I'm absolutely DEVASTATED I'm viewing this four weeks later and missed the hot docs event! I hope you do something similar again in the future :D
Yea can we make this a yearly thing? I really need a girls night and an excuse to go to canada
"I am sexy, sexy Sherlock Holmes."
Iconic.
As an Edward roleplayer in Twilight readathons in my village, I have to admit, nobody ever discussed that plagiarism issue.
First time I ever hear about this unhinged interview!
Interesting information by the way, you got yourself a subscriber 🦇
Ps: Did you know that Carley reminds me of I Carly? Good series...
oh my god twilight readathons??
Can we please come back to the fact that you had twilight readathons?????
No no we need to go back to Edward roleplay.
You're in for a wild ride, new subscriber... when I subscribed, I watched back like 40 videos to make sure I know all the inside jokes lmao
@uncarley
@monique_wangra
Yes. I voiced Edward's lines while one of the other folks (usually the least vampire friendly and more of a Teen Wolf guy) would voice Jacob's. Usually my best lady friend had Bella's lines. Relationship goals :P
@turkicnomad5632
I didn't look like Edward but since we were vampy folk ever since the vampire diaries books, and the Twilight movies didn't reach us until 2010, nobody minded.
Also, 2015 was my favorite year ever. I got to roleplay Beaufort Swan, but I preferred Bella's more eloquent words. Beaufort's lines seemed like a Percy Jackson novel...
" the main character reffers to his WIFE as love " well, that's very unique
Scott doesn't understand that plagarism and unoriginality are not the same thing. :'D
If Stephanie plagiarized from anything, I'd be Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. A suspiciously high amount of similarities in plot points and themes
i can't believe you took a break from stardew just to post a video on my birthdayyyyy! no other reason! that's so kind
happy birthday!!!
Happy birthday 🎉🎉🎉🎉
i was rewatching the midnight sun drama video last night so this is thee most perfect timing for this video
"I have an award-winning script, and three other scripts in various stages. Wow. I love school, writing, music and of course Boys". Is... is she an AI?
have never watched or read *any* twilight stuff, and this vid just randomly came up. Best way to be introduced to a channel ever
carley i’m addicted to watching ur videos while doing cardio at the gym so my fitness journey is basically in ur hands
Not just Twilight, but the Host as well. There was an older book at my ex boyfriend's house that belonged to his mother that she let me borrow. For the life of me, I cannot remember the name of it, but it was almost 1:1 with the Host, with slight changes to the names of the characters and the alien races. I thought it was strange, so i asked my exes' mom about it, and she said it was a pretty common thing for bigger name authors to buy out books/plots of stories that flopped long before to publish them under their name for modern audiences.
I feel like I have the unhinged necessity to say at an interview that I model and that I don't need to model. But I am a model.
Can't believe I've never heard of this before! Thank you Carley for informing us on this historical event
my mom used know her middle school and i asked her about jordan and she said that she used to push down chairs for no reason
Breaking DAWN the insane plagiarism scandal
Thank you for this journalism I loved it ❤❤
putting my 2 years in journalism school to good use
When you say at 21 you’re at your peak unhinged behavior GIIRRLL I felt it in my soul I’m 23 only two years since 21 and let me tell you I was so unhinged for no fcking reason like (??? I am back to normal but it left scars haha 😂❤
Ive been binging your channel for like 24 hrs. Thank you. ❤
omg so kind thank u!
Is misleading a judge into thinking that passages from both books are more similar than they are in the actual texts not perjury?
But the title could’ve been Breaking Dawn the plagiarism scandal
I love you and Cindy. The way my world rattled..
literally in my stardew and rot era, who gave you the right to be so relatable
a queen 🙏 my friend had horrible period cramps last night and listening to your voice sent her to sleep 🥰
Finding out Carley is a Cindy stan has been the highlight of my week.
i love how insane you are im so serious you’re my inspiration
The Twilight content is really showing up today. First Rhe posted her Forever Twilight in Forks 2023 vlog and now this. Love it.
HAPPY CARLEY POSTED DAY
this was uploaded the day i decided to reread twilight. feeling watched.
watch ur back
You said sexy sexy Sherlock Holmes and I immediately subscribed😂😂😂
I own two nocturne books. It’s a series of different books by different authors. The publishing company is Harlequin. I don’t own Jordan Scott’s but I do own one by Jenna Kernan and one by Karen Whiddon
The actual court documents at least are easy to find online and funny as shit
I'm just listening to twilight as an audiobook for the first time, never read it when it came out and I've never seen the movies or anything, TBH i was just using the audiobook to fall asleep but then i had bad insomnia one night and i actually listened to a bunch of it and now I'm invested
If I knew her I would forever be sending her vague overviews of two works and being shocked at the plagiarism.
Twilight shout along sounds awesome. Keep going girly❤
it is so much fun!! thank u
I found the book on Amazon and it’s $83? Who’s paying $83 for a book 😭
21:03 it’s actually not super easy to add credits to your IMDb and very easy to get them removed by the studio. So while I doubt this person wrote A Simple Favour they probably did work on the film in some capacity.
¡Gracias por tanto Carley!
my jaw dropped during the intro because you mentioned stardew valley and bed rotting. I literally clicked this video after playing stardew in my bed for the past 2 hours lol you’re not alone girly
I really hope you keep doing the twilight watch alongs! I can’t make this one, but I really want to catch one !!
the stardew valley comment floored me because i was just queueing up my stardew world as you said that
unrelated to the video but i need a skincare/makeup routine bc you look so radiant
I've never in my life clicked faster on a video in my life, I love your Pop Culture commentary 🤌🏻
thank you bestie!
This had me thinking, if someone wanted to claim that JK Rolling stole the harry potter books from another author, all the fans hate her so much, they'd probably just let it happen.
Actually, Harry Potter was already accused of plagiarism because Harry Potter is basically the gender swapped version of the Worst Witch series
Love this video! The thumbnail is fantastic and is giving Kubrick's Stare but from a Pachycephalosaurus. Like I'm about to get head-butted into oblivion.
the zoom out at the beggining is from the same size head as the thumbnail so when you hover it looks like youre coming to life
The Dylan obrian Logan leerman comment was so real. I got them mixed up so much as a kid
To anyone curious there seems to be one single used copy of The Nocturne available on amazon rn
The confidence levels in thus unfounded plagiarism case are truly astonishing
Literally every time you post I drop what I’m doing
omg thank u bestie
@@uncarley do you think if my psych grade drops I can list you as an excuse?
@ToastedPajamas yes
In the us copyright expires after 95 years
I haven’t watched the video yet, but if I made something that I though could have caused the existence of twilight, I think I’d be too embarrassed to tell anyone 😭