WrestleMania Has Not Been This Exciting Since …? | The Bill Simmons Podcast
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Ariel Helwani and David Shoemaker to talk all things WrestleMania 40.
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The Rock is making his GOAT case during his run. He’s a really nasty heel. He’s getting bigger pops than all of the baby faces, when ever he comes out. He’s so great, the crowd is confused how to react to him. Definitely the GOAT
He definitely is the biggest star in the history of wrestling
So has Roman, but people don't have nostalgia for Roman yet
I've been watching wrestling for over 20+ years and consumed all of the history. This is easily the best it's been overall since the AE. I was a kid in 2003 and everything felt so alive. What they've been able to do has brought me back to that boyish level of excitement. It's a new peak in the company and I never thought I'd see it for myself
I hate to break it to you but 2003 wasn’t the Attitude Era.
@@nocturne311 I knew somebody was gonna say this. Yes, I started watching in 03. But I'm well aware of the AE and how things were booming around that time. I know how it's written makes it seem like I meant 03 as the AE, but in that portion I merely was speaking about how wrestling feels as a kid as opposed to when you're an adult and you know everything
@@WhelmedButReadyAh, my bad. I gotcha. Good point.
Yeah I didn't think they had another run like this in them but it makes you realize that the old man was probably holding them back a little bit
We all love Cody because he is genuine. The Cody we see on TV is so close to the actual Cody it works so well. We see his love for his dad, we see him be a great person for the kids and his genuine feeling to wanting to be GREAT at what he does for a living and what he loves. He's the absolute perfect baby face. Me and my 8 year old son are huge Cody crybabies.
He also cried on tv. Austin and especially Hogan would never put him over.
cody sucks. cody nobody
@@regularperson4106keep cryin.
I'm a 37-year-old that watched the entire Attitude Era religiously and I am a certified Cody Cry-Baby. Let's *make* somebody!💪
Probably since Daniel Bryan got his push personally
He was a one hit wonder.
Change of management is the key. That is the elephant in the room that is not talked about (publicly).
Bill slowly turning into a skinny Santa clause
If you end the Bloodline story, you MUST have something as compelling to replace it with
They ain't ending the Bloodline story win or lose. There's so many ways you can still go with it.
As far as WWE is concerned, the most exciting since probably the yes movement, and basically for mainstream since Rock v Cena 1. Let’s be fair Omega vs Okada was insane and the first year of AEW plus the coronation of Hangman and All Out 2023 as well made wrestling exciting. Basically this is the result of the competition and as a pro wrestling I love it.
Wrestling hasn’t been this interesting since WCW folded
Plausible argument. But I haven't been this amped since the build up to Hogan/Rock at WM 18. The possibilities were endless. They kinda underwhelmed, but Hogan/Rock delivered.
@@manuginobilisbaldspot2I blame the venue. The crowd at 17 was losing their minds over everything and that took it to another level. The crowd at 18 really only popped that way for Rock and Hogan.
I watched religiously back then and I 100% agree with you
@@nocturne311 Valid. That's part of the nostalgia about X-7...that Houston crowd was nuts.
Eh I disagree and I’d say pump the brakes a little. It’s not THAT good.
Since Jake the Snake's Cobra took a chunk out of Macho Man's bicep
Talking about wrestling? Hell fucking yeah!! Acknowledge Me!! ☝️
I coached Dustin Cody's brother in Teaball. Dusty, great dude in real life
You might be the oldest person to ever comment on UA-cam lol
@GeronimoPlaz so you got Boomer jokes. HA. GEN Z not a boomer.
Reel Rick is awesome
Best soap opera ever!
The best since 2008-2010
As someone born in the mid-90s you heard about how awesome wrestling used to be and the excitement from week to week. Multiple guys being mega over with huge reactions, and you just wished you could see it for yourself. Thanks to Triple H, he's brought that to modern day and it's a treat to see
easy...it's not the same, not even close. This is fun though, probably most fun since WM18
@@iank3924 Did I say it was identical? No, but you're lying to yourself if you say they haven't elevated as much of the talent as they had in their last peak. That's just asinine.
They should've put the belt on Sammy in that moment, but they didn't and this is arguably just as good of a build. An insane multi-year run by the Fed.
His chase was a lot better than his title reign would have been
@@420bengalfan and that’s fine, not every champ is supposed to be a fear year long title holder, Sammy would’ve been a perfect transitional champ.
@@thebigwagyu not to take the title off of reigns after this long of a run
@@thebigwagyu he would have made a good transitional champ but a transitional champ shouldn’t end reigns title run
The main event should have been a triple threat match.
Imagine how much better that WrestleMania would be this year if CM Punk was also able to get in the ring.
Its actually a blessing. If Punk hadnt been injured, The Rock wouldnt have returned.
@@anthonycampos8057 I think Rock returning was in place long before the Rumble. Only difference is Punk would've faced Seth instead of Drew. Maybe the original plan was for Drew to face Cody.
@@joemckim1183 then how would The Rock have been involved?
Wrestling been good since 2021, been great since last year. Wrestling is back
Agreed. Pretty much every since VM started being distanced
Since the Ultimate Warrior saved Hogan in WM8?
Really? that Wrestlemania was better than Wrestlemania 17? Dont talk wrestling anymore.
Daniel Bryan personally. Got me back into wrestling.
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It's all about who is in charge and calling shots now, H over Vince
Wrestling hasn't felt this interesting since at least 2001. You could argue 07 was the most interested people were because of the Benoit tragedy but nobody was interested in the right way. AEW simply existing has lit a humongous fire under WWE's ass and there are a ton of things firing off at the right time like Vince being gone, the upcoming Netflix deal, talent going back and forth between companies, Kevin Dunn being gone, etc. The answer is that the product is good on both sides and very different and it creates this whirlwind of stuff together that builds interest. It's like sports, if there's an obvious team like the Warriors from like 2015-2019 that was gonna win their division every year no one gave a fuck. But now the rosters are so stacked you don't know if they will put a world Title on a Jey Uso or LA Knight or who can emerge? What if Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn get annoyed and go to AEW to be with their friends in AEW? What if MJF signs with WWE and shows up on Raw the night after Mania? You straight up couldn't have this intrigue without competition.
Clearly by "wrestling" they mean the WWE. It's not the most popular in the world, but the Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Okada saga in NJPW was at least as exciting as this
If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it did it make a sound
It’s The best since the fans forced Daniel Bryan into the main event
Daniel Bryan beat Triple H, Bautista and Randy Orton on the same night in two matches.😂😂
@@Sam19509 you remember what happened! 😲
the rock, roman reigns, the bloodline, drew mac. are the best.
lol 15:00 min mark clean shaven cracked a fat
If Cody wins, Cena needs to come back and challenge him as the face of the WWE and take on the “Dark Cena” persona going after his 17th championship… they could stretch that till Summerslam
I would love that. Cena wants a retirement match, he has said that much. It would be a nice pass the torch moment. I could see Cena lift Cody's arm like the Rock before him and Hogan before him.
No doubt all WWE personalities and support staff are amazing at what they do....but they benefit hugely from a population that is increasingly looking for a mental vacation from their lives
Bill trying to produce a Vince doc to make him look great + having Helwani on = woof. Donald Sterling-level of bad.
... The 'Real Housewives' Table Flip in 2009?
Better than Attitude Era lol?...😆🤣😂
Another episode of "Bill pretends he watches wrestling "
Vince definitely wouldn't audible
Let’s be real. WWE could’ve handled the situation better… Royal Rumble was predictable as hell. 2 years in a row Cody enters with Fireworks 2 years Cody wins. Roman Reigns is such a predictable character/villian. He’s not shed that. He still butchers his promos too. That’s okay, rock gives him edge. What happens on mania? Cody & Seth lose tag team match. Cody wins next day. What happens after though, that’s interesting.
“Unlike real sports” all pro sports are predictable and and predetermined and fixed by betting companies and the own corporations and leagues
Wrasslin hasn't been the same since JCP sold to Ted Turner
Since the last time the celtics actually won something
Man, that is a potato internet connection for The Ringer. You can turn anyone heel and made a ton of money. Just look how money the nWo and DX made with their merch
I mean, it isn't a coincidence it's the best it's been since late '90s, because the biggest star from that Era is back invested and, more importantly, doesn't have any restraints on him. And no, it wasn't the original plan. The Rock and HHH saw the chance for him to go uber heel and took it.
Agreed to an extent, but it’s been better well before the Rock returned
Perhaps different chapters where it catches different people’s interest, but it’s been a solid 3-4 years now where wrestling has been great.
@@lucasissmall17 Rhea is excellent. I have never been a fan of the kind of "soccer-chant" heat some stars get from their entrances, like Seth and Becky. It seems like people like doing a sing-along more than the actual performers. Seth has been much better since The Rock came back as well.
@@poorchris1997-2002.
Wrestling is still not good in the modern era. It's just not as bad as it's been in the last few years. Nowhere near as good as the classic 80s era or the WWE Attitude vs NWO in the 90s.
Lol
The wrestling haters in the comments =🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
WWE and The Rock have made people forget that Cody was losing heat this year.
He wasn't tho?
I remember when the rock was taking wrestling mania, everyone was saying how horrible it was and that the rock ruined everything. Lol. How wrong all the kids were.
WWE hasn’t been relevant since the early 2000s. They literally need legends from the past to come and revive it 😂
Ok chico.😅
And your opinion is irrelevant too.🤡
NFL, NBA, NCAA and MLB are rigged too. Not just wrestling. 😅
they are overstating how big it is
Why we talkin about wrasslin? 😆🤣
It's not best or good. It's poor storytelling, Cody should have won last year and the Rock should stay out.
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Wrestling: if you watch and enjoy and you're over 13 years old you may have some mental developmental issues
Cm punk was just embarrassing
wrestling is dumb
So don't watch it, no one is forcing you to. I think golf if mind numbingly boring but I just don't watch it, I don't go watching videos about it so I can make dumb comments about it.
It’s not a wrestling channel , people are allowed to say they want more or less wrestling content
Its never been exciting.....
Wrestlemania 17 was the last wrestlemania I watched. I was only 12 it’s hilarious to me that grown men are talking about WWE as if it wasn’t a children’s show
Imagine watching scripted reality tv show wrestling 🤡
Imagine using this bitchy language device. You sound like Regina George
Do u watch scripted movies? Scripted tv shows? Replace cgi with some actual action. Either way, calling people clowns for liking something just makes u look like a jackass
@@andrewsullivan3180He also watches the NBA. Lol. I do too, but come on man…
@nocturne311 so do i...need my celtics to win it this year. I just hate his mindset, I'm sure if he said what music he listened to it would be some popular rap or some bs that I could call him a clown about if i was a douche since i dont like rap. But people can like what they like and not have to explain it to some douche on the internet. 🤷
@@andrewsullivan3180 Oh c'mon. We know Simmons listens to Creed, Nickelback and Coldplay.