Carpro rarely lets you down and this is one of their best products. I enjoyed seeing how your opinion changed when you saw how effective it really was. Waterspots are its main target and not to be used as a regular wash.
Jon, I do not use ceramic coatings. Don’t have the time or a proper garage to let the coatings set up. I have been using Jescar’s Ultra Lock + (also a great product) and after a long Canadian winter, whatever sealant remains, Descale totally removes any lingering sealant. I use it in my foam cannon and let it stand for 3-5 minutes and then in a contact wash. I have used Descale for 2 years and for my purposes, it performs to my expectations and I have to come to trust CarPro products. This is my opinion as an enthusiast and certainly not a professional. Thanks for the video and it’s always good to get different perspectives. Till the next one.
MOST OF THE RECENT GYEON COATINGS ARE VERY EASY TO APPLY OUTSIDE. I have used mohs/skin and gyeon pure , both applied outside. No problems , pure is amazing, looks unbelievble and is a 1 layer coating, so saving time over the 2 layer mohs combo.. get a 50ml bottle, s you apply it thick, wait till its about 15 deg centigrade , apply gyeon cure after about 1 hour and you will be good to go.
Used Car pro descale for the past year or two. Bought Purifica about a month ago and I think it’s a step up for sure.Smells incredible and is super slick, both are excellent at unclogging ceramic coatings in my opinion.Thanks for all the content Jon you are on a real tear lately 👍🏻
I love Descale, it's been great using it now for a little over a year. I also love that it's not just a "stripper" but a very high quality shampoo with great lubrication for the amount of cleaning power it provides. I use it mainly as a sort of "reset" wash, about 3, maybe 4 times a year, on heavily driven non-garage kept vehicles. Out here in the rust belt (northeastern PA) cars get hammered with all types of minerals, salts, and other crap, year round. So this product really helps, and works great.
I just bought/used Koch Chemie Reactivation Shampoo. It's 1ph pre-diluted so it's a lot more concentrated than descale, And can be diluted 2x, while only being slightly more expensive per liter, which brings the price per use down greatly.
I have both, i must say that descale definitely is the more premium shampoo. rs is more aggressive and the lubrication is very mediocre compared to descale. Also the smell of rs is a pain to remove from washmitts compared to descale. It’s not bad but it smells like bathroom cleaner. I would only use rs for absolute strip washes where i’m going to polish as well. Not as a once in a few months coating reviver.
It's actually significantly more cheap as the £15 price is for 1L. Descale is about £23 for 1L & you use 2x as much so a direct comparison to the KC reactivation shampoo is like £15 vs £46 for the same amount of washes.
I recently chose spotless 2.0 over this ( it was mentioned to be even stronger) and it fully restored my coatings proporties up to 99% including removing the hard waterspots i had on my black audi paint. Carpro makes seriously great products!❤❤❤
Nice review Jon. I really like descale. But I prefer Purifica because in the conditions I use it, it works better. I really like labocosmetica because of the ease of use and the way the products forgive mistakes that normally slow us down or cause problems. All products have their positive and negative characteristics, and depending on various factors such as ambient temperature, humidity, contact temperature, the products work better than others. I have a large black car with a lot of chrome and some plastics and I have to wash it often in the sun at high temperatures, with hot panels, in a dry and windy environment. Although I have already tested some brands... those that I have the best results and ease use are labocosmetica products, primus, purifica, and also often use revita as the only protection (everything used with foam lance) The biggest problem for me is the price, but this is payment by the lower risk of problems when the product dries on the paint, something that as has happened to me. Don't get me wrong... I like CarPro and its products, but in the conditions I use it, Labocosmetica better meets the requirements I'm looking for (ease of use in the environment in question, time spent washing).
I only get the 1 liter bottle only for the vehicles a ceramic coat. the customer gets the bottle and when I do a decon wash every 3 or 4 months I use it. it works well for my needs and does rejuvenate the hydrophobic properties
I use Fx Protect Arctic Ice Shampoo. It’s not as acidic (pH 4) as descale but it costs 8€ per liter, dilution is 1:50 and up to 1:200 so it’s very affordable even as a maintenance shampoo.
Purifica from Labo is around twice as good. For heavy decontamination I use Purifica 1:5 in a spray bottle. After washing, spray that on, let dwell for 1 minute and wash again with clean mitt. Thank me later
Directions: Dilute 1:100 for bucket washing or 1:10 for foam sprayer/spray bottle. For light contamination: use Descale as a snow foam and allow for maximum dwell time (without letting it dry) before rinsing. Follow up with a hand wash. For heavier contamination: wash panel by panel starting with horizontal panels. Wash the panel and allow Descale to dwell for as long as possible without letting it dry. Repeat if necessary. Thoroughly rinse with water.
I use this product, I like it. I rarely use it because its not one of these products you shouldn't use regularly. About once a year or every 6 months should be fine, but that also depends on your rinse water and if your cleaning in a cool shaded area and get the car dry quickly or use DI water. This all adds water spots otherwise. My only thought on this acidic shampoo is that even if you rinse thoroughly, there is a chance of the acid shampoo being left in the panel gap somewhere. What about going back over with an alkaline shampoo or pre wash just to really make sure everything is pH neutral?
I like the idea of using this as a waterspot remover, might have to mix up a bottle at 10:1. Agreed about the price though, even bringing it down 20% would increase the take rate substantially
I used this product ,but now I’m tying Koch chemie reactivation shampoo which I’m guessing are the similar products. Smells almost like FSE . Very lemony lol.
Hello Jon. Great video. I have been using Garage Therapy's decon wash and think it is a good product. I would be interested to see a comparison between it and the Carpro. Keep up the great work. All the best, John.👍
It's a completely different type of shampoo though. It's a heavy alkaline based shampoo, this is an acidic shampoo primarily for waterspot & mineral removal.
I’m on my second 4l container of descale. I use the multimitt/pad method of washing and I use the same wash solution 4-6 times so my cost is lower than most.
looks promising product. great review with nice demonstration. Maybe i should take a look into it. But i wonder, you mentionned multiple times that it won't strip waxes, just degrading them, but i am curious, what's the best way to fully strip a wax before / without polishing? let's say i want to reapply a wax every 4 months or so without waxing them on top of each other? Thanks
Without polishing. It would be wash first with strong degreasing detergent, dish soap etc.. then dry car and use a body shop panel wipe thats hydrocarbon based and claims wax and silicone removal.
It’s not a product you would need to use all the time because if you did your car would never have water stains and after a while of continuous use it will burn through your clear coat, I think I read somewhere recommended use is once or twice a year but I haven’t used it yet as I want to use it just to clear the paint before I apply any sealants so 500ml should last a while if applied from a snow foam lance at 1:10 but I want to use it as a clay lubricant aswell while it has its dwell time too I’m agitating it with a clay mitt but not sure otherwise
Seems simular to carpro reset? Labocosmetica purifica is no1 for me, ypu can really see the diffrence when u washed a ceramic coated car with that shampoo compared to regular maintenance shampoo. Limescale removers like gyeon and labos i find to fuck up the coating big time no matter what ratio u mix or how short u let it dwell or just mist it in the microfiber towel and just wipe. Have u had succes with them J? Awesome videos like day one🙌
@@MegaFregel I couldn't disagree more, some of their products are top notch, like every company out there, some products will be outstanding while others will not be market leading.
@@keithblacknell957 the only product I find top notch is the synthetic spray wax which I’d love to see in one of Jon's more in depth testing. I tried some cleaners as well and they were all average. The snow foam didn’t do anything but so do most.
I'm thinking the foam sprayer/spray bottle means a foam cannon (like you mentioned) and the soap dispenser bottles that come with consumer pressure washers. That makes the most sense to me that would need that 1:10 dilution?
I’ve seen lot of “touchless wash” videos with alkaline shampoos on non protected vehicles, since higher pH products such as BH might strip cheap waxes and do some damage to certain ceramic coatings. The results were a bit “meh”. But what about a touchless wash with an acidic shampoo such as descale on a ceramic coated car? Do you think it will do the job on a regularly maintained car? I mean, weekly touchless washes with descale and one contact wash per month on a coated car?
Is it safe to use on stek ppf as decon wash ? ,i feel my ppf is clogged with dirt and ph neutral shampoos are not strong enoug to give a deep clean wash
The whole strip wax thing is easy , wax/seal a panel then use the descale or after 24hrs and if it at least weakens it then ok if it don't touch it then you know your theory is correct I guess
Out of curiosity; what would you use to remove wax protection? I'm contemplating doing that so I could put ceramic but unsure how to proceed here. thanks!
if its fresh wax or sealant just use a soft pad and a finishing polish on a DA. but its so much effect to polish it off. its best to wait and drive it for a month and wash it withg surfex maybe or this etc. over a period of month. because if you try and polish it off you will miss bits (imagine preditor vision around edges and gaps etc)...
I used a spray bottle and it seemed to stick so much and did the opposite of unclogging. Water stuck even more. I messaged carpro and they said yeah it’s not meant for spray bottles 🤦🏻♂️ I just stopped using it
Sorry to break it to you but if fse can’t strip it then u can only polish it. Worst case.. waterspots etched deep into ur clear coat and you can’t even polish it if ur paint is too soft. I’ve experienced waterspots resurfaced after polished away. Waterspots can be worse than swirls sometimes
I love Carpro Products. BUT many of them has expired date 2 years from the date in the botle. Does Descale has production date? I can not understand why 2 years life!! I do not remember other company to do this. I dont know. But the products of Carpro are excellent. For 2 years? lol maybe yes maybe not. Thank you for the video 👍
Every chemical product degrades over time. The expiration date doesn’t mean it doesn’t work anymore. It just means it may not work as good as it used to.
sorry mate we have done over a 1000 videos all with live feeds of comments and questions. its not possible to go back and watch my own content to see what I was saying to answer this question.
@@ForensicDetailingI absolutely love auto wash. And I love it without the suds. I purposely don’t jet it to create thick suds. It’s slick, clean as fuck and I can see the film it removes when washing without suds. I remember you recommended this way of washing but I can’t find ur video anymore. Thanks Jon.
I think cleaning power is a nonsense topic when it comes to PH neutral contact washes, I’d imagine that the wash mitt is doing most of the work, better still do a proper prewash so that you’re cleaning a clean car, then choose a shampoo that you enjoy using, I prefer Reset for the user experience over Auto Wash.
@@LSD04 yep, pre-wash 1or 2 even 3 times if you have to. contact wash on a basically clean car, bucket will still be clean when you're done. Who needs 2 buckets?!
then your not following instructions. Its tested to be used as instructed. Will it be strong enough to remove mineral spots etc??? cant just say things like then when you are reviewing products.
let me stop you. the label does NOT. repeat the label does NOT. says "hand spray bottle". it says 1 to 10 in "foam sprayer / spray bottle". that will yield a rough working PIR of about 9%. versus 1% in the bucket. That might get some people to go "hmmmm" because its a factor of ten alteration in PIR between 2 methods. It then goes on to say you can use it as a snow foam. As soon as the word snow foam is used the whole detailing world will relate that to being used in a snow foam lance or cannon and they will go back to to the ratios to try and get answers. So like I said in this review there is AMBIGUITY. There does not need to ambiguity. It just needs simple, verbatum style instructions so there can be no confusion. let me show you the purifica diultion instructions Foam Gun 1:5-1:10 Bucket 1:100-1:400 Spray 1:100-1:200 you will notice the bucket and spray PIR match. When you put it into a foam gun (lance or cannon they should say) you typically lower the dilution by another factor of 10. hence the 1:5 1:10 ratio for the lance resovoir will balance out the PIR accross all 3 methods roughly. So Im of the opinion (just from using logical) that foam sprayer in carpros world means snow foam lance. as otherwise you are using at 10% pir which is very very strong.
mate your missing the entire point. Ive just had another arguement with someone in the comments whos adament the 1:10 is for a lance. Its my job to point out the ambiguity. Im not worried about what is supposed to be correct. Im just highlight an ambiguity.
@@Myfavs1972MarkM I never mentioned Bilt Hamber or Koch Chemi, but I'll take Bilt Hamber every day of the week and twice on Sunday against any other brand with like for like products. This seems to be a niche product which means that Carpro can retail it for whatever they can get for it. I don't have a detailing business, so therefore I don't have the facility to build the expense of certain manufacturers products into my pricing structure. I do however detail and maintain three cars on a regular basis and the two key factors most important to me are performance and value for money. I really appreciate all the work Jon puts into his two channels. His product testing in particular has saved me hundreds of pounds over the years I have followed him. You are entitled to your opinion as am I. To reiterate, I only speak from personal experience and Carpro for me is not a brand that facilitates high performance with every product and the added bonus of value for money.
Carpro rarely lets you down and this is one of their best products. I enjoyed seeing how your opinion changed when you saw how effective it really was. Waterspots are its main target and not to be used as a regular wash.
Jon, I do not use ceramic coatings. Don’t have the time or a proper garage to let the coatings set up. I have been using Jescar’s Ultra Lock + (also a great product) and after a long Canadian winter, whatever sealant remains, Descale totally removes any lingering sealant. I use it in my foam cannon and let it stand for 3-5 minutes and then in a contact wash. I have used Descale for 2 years and for my purposes, it performs to my expectations and I have to come to trust CarPro products. This is my opinion as an enthusiast and certainly not a professional. Thanks for the video and it’s always good to get different perspectives. Till the next one.
Yer it's strong stuff
Maybe try DIY Ceramic, it cures in an hour I think
MOST OF THE RECENT GYEON COATINGS ARE VERY EASY TO APPLY OUTSIDE.
I have used mohs/skin and gyeon pure , both applied outside. No problems , pure is amazing, looks unbelievble and is a 1 layer coating, so saving time over the 2 layer mohs combo.. get a 50ml bottle, s you apply it thick, wait till its about 15 deg centigrade , apply gyeon cure after about 1 hour and you will be good to go.
Used Car pro descale for the past year or two. Bought Purifica about a month ago and I think it’s a step up for sure.Smells incredible and is super slick, both are excellent at unclogging ceramic coatings in my opinion.Thanks for all the content Jon you are on a real tear lately 👍🏻
so whatevers cheaper or purifica better?
Purifica is cheaper and better imo
I love Descale, it's been great using it now for a little over a year. I also love that it's not just a "stripper" but a very high quality shampoo with great lubrication for the amount of cleaning power it provides. I use it mainly as a sort of "reset" wash, about 3, maybe 4 times a year, on heavily driven non-garage kept vehicles. Out here in the rust belt (northeastern PA) cars get hammered with all types of minerals, salts, and other crap, year round. So this product really helps, and works great.
Thank you for the testing ! we try our best as always. "under promise - over deliver"
Can you do a video on the best way to remove wax/sealants from paintwork
I just bought/used Koch Chemie Reactivation Shampoo. It's 1ph pre-diluted so it's a lot more concentrated than descale, And can be diluted 2x, while only being slightly more expensive per liter, which brings the price per use down greatly.
I have both, i must say that descale definitely is the more premium shampoo.
rs is more aggressive and the lubrication is very mediocre compared to descale.
Also the smell of rs is a pain to remove from washmitts compared to descale. It’s not bad but it smells like bathroom cleaner.
I would only use rs for absolute strip washes where i’m going to polish as well. Not as a once in a few months coating reviver.
It's actually significantly more cheap as the £15 price is for 1L. Descale is about £23 for 1L & you use 2x as much so a direct comparison to the KC reactivation shampoo is like £15 vs £46 for the same amount of washes.
@@BrianW1612 that is very true. It’s not bad a bad shampoo at all, but you just can tell the price difference between the two.
I recently chose spotless 2.0 over this ( it was mentioned to be even stronger) and it fully restored my coatings proporties up to 99% including removing the hard waterspots i had on my black audi paint. Carpro makes seriously great products!❤❤❤
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Nice review Jon.
I really like descale. But I prefer Purifica because in the conditions I use it, it works better. I really like labocosmetica because of the ease of use and the way the products forgive mistakes that normally slow us down or cause problems. All products have their positive and negative characteristics, and depending on various factors such as ambient temperature, humidity, contact temperature, the products work better than others. I have a large black car with a lot of chrome and some plastics and I have to wash it often in the sun at high temperatures, with hot panels, in a dry and windy environment. Although I have already tested some brands... those that I have the best results and ease use are labocosmetica products, primus, purifica, and also often use revita as the only protection (everything used with foam lance) The biggest problem for me is the price, but this is payment by the lower risk of problems when the product dries on the paint, something that as has happened to me. Don't get me wrong... I like CarPro and its products, but in the conditions I use it, Labocosmetica better meets the requirements I'm looking for (ease of use in the environment in question, time spent washing).
Great review. Your product reviews never disappoint.
Thank you
I only get the 1 liter bottle only for the vehicles a ceramic coat. the customer gets the bottle and when I do a decon wash every 3 or 4 months I use it. it works well for my needs and does rejuvenate the hydrophobic properties
I use Fx Protect Arctic Ice Shampoo. It’s not as acidic (pH 4) as descale but it costs 8€ per liter, dilution is 1:50 and up to 1:200 so it’s very affordable even as a maintenance shampoo.
Purifica from Labo is around twice as good. For heavy decontamination I use Purifica 1:5 in a spray bottle. After washing, spray that on, let dwell for 1 minute and wash again with clean mitt. Thank me later
I've been using killrock bathroom descaler in a spray gun for yrs works a treat as part of decon process.
Yes you can use it 1-10 in a spray bottle. Its very effective that way
I bought ADBL Tangy as the alternative to this. Slick to use and does get rid of LSP on its last legs and does remove those very light water spots
Directions:
Dilute 1:100 for bucket washing or 1:10 for foam sprayer/spray bottle.
For light contamination: use Descale as a snow foam and allow for maximum dwell time (without letting it dry) before rinsing. Follow up with a hand wash.
For heavier contamination: wash panel by panel starting with horizontal panels. Wash the panel and allow Descale to dwell for as long as possible without letting it dry.
Repeat if necessary.
Thoroughly rinse with water.
what you have typed out there does not match the label :) The first "(without letting it dry)" is not on the label.
Would like to see Koch-Chemie Reactivation Shampoo has a ph-1.0 as a review and or comparison
I bought 4 L! It’s great stuff especially in conjunction with the Lyft alkaline first.
I use this product, I like it. I rarely use it because its not one of these products you shouldn't use regularly. About once a year or every 6 months should be fine, but that also depends on your rinse water and if your cleaning in a cool shaded area and get the car dry quickly or use DI water. This all adds water spots otherwise. My only thought on this acidic shampoo is that even if you rinse thoroughly, there is a chance of the acid shampoo being left in the panel gap somewhere. What about going back over with an alkaline shampoo or pre wash just to really make sure everything is pH neutral?
I find you need both anyway. Acids and alkalines work on different things.
I like the idea of using this as a waterspot remover, might have to mix up a bottle at 10:1. Agreed about the price though, even bringing it down 20% would increase the take rate substantially
I used this product ,but now I’m tying Koch chemie reactivation shampoo which I’m guessing are the similar products. Smells almost like FSE . Very lemony lol.
Hello Jon.
Great video. I have been using Garage Therapy's decon wash and think it is a good product. I would be interested to see a comparison between it and the Carpro.
Keep up the great work.
All the best, John.👍
It's a completely different type of shampoo though. It's a heavy alkaline based shampoo, this is an acidic shampoo primarily for waterspot & mineral removal.
Isn't it the same concept as Labo Purifica?
Descale is awesome I use it only once or twice a year so the 500ml is fine for me
I’m on my second 4l container of descale. I use the multimitt/pad method of washing and I use the same wash solution 4-6 times so my cost is lower than most.
looks promising product. great review with nice demonstration. Maybe i should take a look into it. But i wonder, you mentionned multiple times that it won't strip waxes, just degrading them, but i am curious, what's the best way to fully strip a wax before / without polishing? let's say i want to reapply a wax every 4 months or so without waxing them on top of each other? Thanks
Without polishing. It would be wash first with strong degreasing detergent, dish soap etc.. then dry car and use a body shop panel wipe thats hydrocarbon based and claims wax and silicone removal.
Tfr preash before dish soap contact wash
It’s not a product you would need to use all the time because if you did your car would never have water stains and after a while of continuous use it will burn through your clear coat, I think I read somewhere recommended use is once or twice a year but I haven’t used it yet as I want to use it just to clear the paint before I apply any sealants so 500ml should last a while if applied from a snow foam lance at 1:10 but I want to use it as a clay lubricant aswell while it has its dwell time too I’m agitating it with a clay mitt but not sure otherwise
Seems simular to carpro reset?
Labocosmetica purifica is no1 for me, ypu can really see the diffrence when u washed a ceramic coated car with that shampoo compared to regular maintenance shampoo.
Limescale removers like gyeon and labos i find to fuck up the coating big time no matter what ratio u mix or how short u let it dwell or just mist it in the microfiber towel and just wipe. Have u had succes with them J?
Awesome videos like day one🙌
Different PH
ADBL Tangy acidic shampoo can be bought for £45 for 5ltrs. Great shampoo does the same job.
ADBL is a great value company but they do not offer top of the line products imo.
@@MegaFregel I couldn't disagree more, some of their products are top notch, like every company out there, some products will be outstanding while others will not be market leading.
@@keithblacknell957 the only product I find top notch is the synthetic spray wax which I’d love to see in one of Jon's more in depth testing.
I tried some cleaners as well and they were all average. The snow foam didn’t do anything but so do most.
I'm thinking the foam sprayer/spray bottle means a foam cannon (like you mentioned) and the soap dispenser bottles that come with consumer pressure washers. That makes the most sense to me that would need that 1:10 dilution?
I’ve seen lot of “touchless wash” videos with alkaline shampoos on non protected vehicles, since higher pH products such as BH might strip cheap waxes and do some damage to certain ceramic coatings. The results were a bit “meh”. But what about a touchless wash with an acidic shampoo such as descale on a ceramic coated car? Do you think it will do the job on a regularly maintained car? I mean, weekly touchless washes with descale and one contact wash per month on a coated car?
You like the smell? Shjt I like to use it from time to time as it really deepcleans the coating but the scent from the bottle is disgusting for me 😄
Is it safe to use on stek ppf as decon wash ? ,i feel my ppf is clogged with dirt and ph neutral shampoos are not strong enoug to give a deep clean wash
The whole strip wax thing is easy , wax/seal a panel then use the descale or after 24hrs and if it at least weakens it then ok if it don't touch it then you know your theory is correct I guess
Yes it won't m8. I had sealant on the car it didn't strip it.
@@ForensicDetailing apologise I spoke to early , but seems to shift grime well enough
I've been using labocosmetica purifica, a great product but similar to descale the instructions can be a bit confusing at first.
“It’s a spray and it’s a bottle” lmaooo bruh
you never tested carpro reset, I assume it would be about the same but way less agressive
it was in our best shampoo shootout ages ago. good shampoo.
Out of curiosity; what would you use to remove wax protection? I'm contemplating doing that so I could put ceramic but unsure how to proceed here. thanks!
if its fresh wax or sealant just use a soft pad and a finishing polish on a DA. but its so much effect to polish it off. its best to wait and drive it for a month and wash it withg surfex maybe or this etc. over a period of month. because if you try and polish it off you will miss bits (imagine preditor vision around edges and gaps etc)...
@@ForensicDetailing thanks! makes sense
You could also use Kamikaze no.5 or Gyeon total remover if you can get it
maximum dwell times .. probably just till dry or there abouts .. that's the maximum before performance goes negative
What did this product do to your alloys John? Any matting/dulling/stains on the polished lips?
No m8, nothing bad. But it's strong stuff. So be careful. Don't let it dry.
Very useful video. Thank you 👍
I used a spray bottle and it seemed to stick so much and did the opposite of unclogging. Water stuck even more. I messaged carpro and they said yeah it’s not meant for spray bottles 🤦🏻♂️
I just stopped using it
So, is this better when mixed as a water spot remover, or is the car pro spotless better?
you get more value when its mixed down. I personally think if you put in a lance at 1:10 it will be very effective but expensive.
Yes i own a 4L of all of carpros shampoos
I’ve got some water spots FSE is struggling to shift. Do you reckon this is worth a go?
Yes
FSE is stronger in my limited experience, so I'm not sure about that.
Sorry to break it to you but if fse can’t strip it then u can only polish it. Worst case.. waterspots etched deep into ur clear coat and you can’t even polish it if ur paint is too soft. I’ve experienced waterspots resurfaced after polished away. Waterspots can be worse than swirls sometimes
Well if it's anything like carpro lift that does absolutely nothing it wouldn't surprise me. Great video jon!!
Did I miss it or did you not show if it revived the coatings on the blue hood?
it did yer. better than I thought it would.
I love Carpro Products. BUT many of them has expired date 2 years from the date in the botle. Does Descale has production date? I can not understand why 2 years life!! I do not remember other company to do this. I dont know. But the products of Carpro are excellent. For 2 years? lol maybe yes maybe not.
Thank you for the video 👍
Every chemical product degrades over time. The expiration date doesn’t mean it doesn’t work anymore. It just means it may not work as good as it used to.
Ask avi in the carpro group he'll explain it to you
So you’re saying wash the car first then foam Carpro Descale on, and use a bucket with Descale and a wash mitt?
sorry mate we have done over a 1000 videos all with live feeds of comments and questions. its not possible to go back and watch my own content to see what I was saying to answer this question.
@@ForensicDetailing I understand, loving your channel!
Would it be safe to use on a car with fusso coat?
Yes but it will degrade it more
Professional means people don’t understand 💪🏻
Ahhh Jon, the Willy Wonka of detailing….👍
carpro reset vs bh shampoo?
See best car shampoo m8. Cost per wash tipped bh favour. But not everyone like auto wash
@@ForensicDetailing if we remove cost per wash and do cleaning capacity only?
@@ForensicDetailingI absolutely love auto wash. And I love it without the suds. I purposely don’t jet it to create thick suds. It’s slick, clean as fuck and I can see the film it removes when washing without suds. I remember you recommended this way of washing but I can’t find ur video anymore. Thanks Jon.
I think cleaning power is a nonsense topic when it comes to PH neutral contact washes, I’d imagine that the wash mitt is doing most of the work, better still do a proper prewash so that you’re cleaning a clean car, then choose a shampoo that you enjoy using, I prefer Reset for the user experience over Auto Wash.
@@LSD04 yep, pre-wash 1or 2 even 3 times if you have to. contact wash on a basically clean car, bucket will still be clean when you're done. Who needs 2 buckets?!
I think they just made an upsy..
Maybe lower concentration in bucket wash for hand safety? 🤷
then your not following instructions. Its tested to be used as instructed. Will it be strong enough to remove mineral spots etc??? cant just say things like then when you are reviewing products.
@@ForensicDetailing I think you're correct, it's just badly written.
Don’t dunk your hand so far into the bucket by not letting the wash media sink 🤷🏼♂️
Remanants Jon??
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No 1:10 in the hand spray bottle..... Just like the label says.
let me stop you. the label does NOT. repeat the label does NOT. says "hand spray bottle". it says 1 to 10 in "foam sprayer / spray bottle". that will yield a rough working PIR of about 9%. versus 1% in the bucket. That might get some people to go "hmmmm" because its a factor of ten alteration in PIR between 2 methods. It then goes on to say you can use it as a snow foam. As soon as the word snow foam is used the whole detailing world will relate that to being used in a snow foam lance or cannon and they will go back to to the ratios to try and get answers. So like I said in this review there is AMBIGUITY. There does not need to ambiguity. It just needs simple, verbatum style instructions so there can be no confusion. let me show you the purifica diultion instructions
Foam Gun 1:5-1:10
Bucket 1:100-1:400
Spray 1:100-1:200
you will notice the bucket and spray PIR match. When you put it into a foam gun (lance or cannon they should say) you typically lower the dilution by another factor of 10. hence the 1:5 1:10 ratio for the lance resovoir will balance out the PIR accross all 3 methods roughly.
So Im of the opinion (just from using logical) that foam sprayer in carpros world means snow foam lance. as otherwise you are using at 10% pir which is very very strong.
@ForensicDetailing carpro reccomends 1:10 in a spray bottle as a substitute for carpro spotless. Its intended to be strong in that use case.
mate your missing the entire point. Ive just had another arguement with someone in the comments whos adament the 1:10 is for a lance. Its my job to point out the ambiguity. Im not worried about what is supposed to be correct. Im just highlight an ambiguity.
You poms are too technical yes it means the snow foam haha
Caroro products in my limited experience are always expensive and rarely worth the investment on return in performance.
I couldn't disagree more, Carpro, bilt hamber and Koch are my go to's
@@Myfavs1972MarkM I never mentioned Bilt Hamber or Koch Chemi, but I'll take Bilt Hamber every day of the week and twice on Sunday against any other brand with like for like products. This seems to be a niche product which means that Carpro can retail it for whatever they can get for it. I don't have a detailing business, so therefore I don't have the facility to build the expense of certain manufacturers products into my pricing structure. I do however detail and maintain three cars on a regular basis and the two key factors most important to me are performance and value for money. I really appreciate all the work Jon puts into his two channels. His product testing in particular has saved me hundreds of pounds over the years I have followed him. You are entitled to your opinion as am I. To reiterate, I only speak from personal experience and Carpro for me is not a brand that facilitates high performance with every product and the added bonus of value for money.
I will not be using it the bottle had a corrosive sign on it
Bilt hamber is my go to products
It's acidic m8 be more worried if it didn't in this instance.
It’s suppose to. It’s an acid 😂