Tudor Black Bay Bronze Patina After 6 Months 🔍

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  • @djayyoda
    @djayyoda 4 роки тому +9

    I didn’t care much for this watch at first but the patina has changed my mind. I think it makes it unique!

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Aaron Poon absolutely. The patina makes this watch look incredibly beautiful and unique as no two will ever look the same. Love it to bits!!

  • @soulrebelno1
    @soulrebelno1 4 роки тому +1

    Here's a video on how to clean a bronze watch, using lemon juice and baking power to make a paste. To completely remove the patina, use sodium bicarbonate and citric acid. ua-cam.com/video/Uufuud73PnY/v-deo.html

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Thank you for sharing this. However, I am not sure I would ever want to completely remove the patina, as patina was the major reason I got this watch in the first place.

  • @shinzomoon
    @shinzomoon 4 роки тому +4

    Was considering forcing a patina, this has convinced me to let it do its thing naturally. Really nice.

  • @b.2221
    @b.2221 4 роки тому +4

    Great video my friend. I have had my Black Bay Bronze grey edition on distressed leather strap for about 5 months. The only thing I have used to clean it is a slightly moist cotton bud, and the patina is coming along naturally. Thank you very much for showing us your beautiful watch Sir 👍 Tam.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому +1

      B. Hey Tam, thank you so much for the support & am glad you enjoyed the video.
      A moist cotton bud is the first thing that came to my mind too but just wanted to see what people, who probably know more than me, were cleaning it with 🙏🏻👍🏻

  • @colinorrburns537
    @colinorrburns537 4 роки тому +3

    I have had the same watch and strap for some eight months ago. I really love it. For me the bronze and its developing patina has a steam punk look that I find very appealing.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Great choice Colin. I can't get enough of this watch. Current fav and wearing it everyday.

  • @soulrebelno1
    @soulrebelno1 4 роки тому +2

    Bronze is an alloy consisting primarily of copper, with a small percentage of tin. The green colour is caused by verdigris a patina formed on copper or brass by atmospheric oxidation. The patina will be affected by things like, acid in the grease from your fingers, and friction from the strap where it rubs against the case.

  • @marklipton6192
    @marklipton6192 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for sharing, lovely piece and the patina makes all the difference. I’ll be viewing one tomorrow.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Glad you enjoyed the video and good luck on the viewing. Couldn’t agree with you more about the patina 😍 let me know if you end up buying one too 🥳

  • @SirMopy
    @SirMopy 4 роки тому +2

    Exactly what I searched! Thanks so much for sharing and making this video!

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      B M glad you found it useful. If possible, please use the links in description below 🙌🏻

  • @lytening79
    @lytening79 4 роки тому +1

    Just watching this video now...first - video quality and lighting look great. Second, the content is great as well. Tudor should be sending you something nice. I bought one of these today, and your videos had a good bit to do with that.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      I33:3 firstly - massive congratulations on the new purchase 🥳 Beware though, this watch is VERY addictive 😍
      Secondly - thank you so much for the kind words, glad to hear my videos have been useful.
      Lastly - I am probably too small for Tudor to notice but if I could encourage you to use any of the links in the description that would help the channel massively 🙏🏻
      [P.S.: Enjoy the watch in good health my friend 🙌🏻]

  • @mikep197
    @mikep197 2 роки тому

    Beautiful watch. Tudor makes the best bronze watch on the market. They patina and darken, then basically stop. They don't develop the gnarly look of some other brands. Agree with you I like it better like this than when brand new. Appreciate the video. Very helpful

  • @Rooney_the_grey_bird
    @Rooney_the_grey_bird 3 роки тому

    Nice video buddy, im not going to lie, the new bronze release got me to your petina review of your bb58, im loving the new bronze strap 😀

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you my friend 🙏🏻 the new bronze release seems to have broken the internet for all the right reasons 😍🤩
      I think the new bronze 58 was long overdue. All the goodness of the BB bronze in a perfectly sized package of the 58 and then some 🔥

  • @nealrousseau
    @nealrousseau 4 роки тому +1

    You can clean up the watch and bring the entire thing right back to its original golden shine using Brasso to remove the patina completely. Which i wouldn't do as you stated, it adds the character.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому +1

      Interesting. However, I doubt I will ever do that as I absolutely adore the patina. Plus I haven't reached that stage in life yet, where I can pull off a blingy gold watch...but good to know this is a possibility :)

  • @1977JohnBoy
    @1977JohnBoy 4 роки тому +2

    starting to love this watch even gutted that i missed out on the bucherer version

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Bucherer version was really well executed but this in many ways, is even better.

  • @markcort1670
    @markcort1670 4 роки тому

    Lovely watch, great choice. The patina is very nice. That OEM strap sets it all off too. This is now on my “to buy” list. 👍👍
    You’ve done a good job with the video and lighting.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Mark Cort The OEM strap and the gradient in the watch face just did it for me. The patina, is the cherry on the cake 😍 Thank you for the feedback 🙌🏻

    • @softmetals3702
      @softmetals3702 4 роки тому

      hope you went for it,i have the brown dial and forced a little patina to tone down the gold look and its bad ass ,

  • @mrp9498
    @mrp9498 4 роки тому +2

    Nice mine still has very little patina. I like the NATO strap for it. I need to get it for mine has the black suede strap. Rubber B has made a closed end strap for this model. They just released it last week in 4 colors.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Mr Perpetual I wear it pretty much every day hence the build up of patina. And I can only recommend the fabric strap. It not only looks good & fits well but makes the watch more versatile too 🙌🏻

  • @derekzhou2397
    @derekzhou2397 4 роки тому +1

    Got one two weeks ago can't wait for the patina to grow.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Congratulations 🥂 which strap did you go for?

    • @derekzhou2397
      @derekzhou2397 4 роки тому +1

      @@AnIndianAbroad i got the leather strap. it's a bit formal so i ordered fabric separately.

  • @YuanMizzle
    @YuanMizzle 4 роки тому +1

    Please show the caseback next time along with a shot of the watch on your wrist before or after you show your wrist size. Makes it easier for others to get an idea without having to search for it. Thanks for the great video though!

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Yuanmei Thank you for the constructive feedback. The case back is a bit difficult to film, given that I have the fabric strap that covers most of it. A bit easier to film that on the leather strap watch. But I will definitely try 🙌🏻

  • @lickaun
    @lickaun 4 роки тому

    beautiful watch it really stands out in a world of stainless steel

  • @soulrebelno1
    @soulrebelno1 4 роки тому +1

    My CuSn8 phosphor bronze watch arrived the other day. I can't take it off, it's my favourite watch these days!

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      hahaha....I feel you. It was pretty much the same for me until, we entered the lockdown.

    • @soulrebelno1
      @soulrebelno1 4 роки тому

      ​@@AnIndianAbroad I ordered a matching watch strap from Watch Gecko (UK), which eventually arrived yesterday. It's a black ZULUDIVER Sailcloth divers watch strap (www.watchgecko.com/sailcloth-watch-strap), with the yellow stitching option. I also bought a Black ZULUDIVER PVD finish buckle to replace the brushed silver one. It's a perfect match for the black face, and the Swiss Super-LumiNova C3 detail on my watch; it really looks the part now. The straps are a touch expensive for what they are, but the quality is top-notch. The strap is thicker at the lugs, and then tappers towards the buckle end by a couple of millimetres. The texture feels great on the skin, and it doesn't pinch, it's the most comfortable watch strap I've ever had!

  • @H4M2A
    @H4M2A 4 роки тому +1

    great video pal. just what i was looking for.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you, glad to hear you enjoyed it my friend.

  • @jassman1
    @jassman1 4 роки тому

    Beautiful Patina......... Enjoy in great health !! I have this one and the old one !! ..

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому +1

      Jassman Dhanjal Thank you 🙏🏻 and you too. Absolutely love this watch to bits.
      And tbh, as beautiful as the choc-brown version is, I was never really drawn to it for some reason. But as someone who has both, how would you compare the two and which one do you wear more of?

    • @jassman1
      @jassman1 4 роки тому +1

      @@AnIndianAbroad I love both of them, I wear the nato strap on th back and the leather on the brown. Cant fault them except not as accurate as a mobile phone or the Bulova Precisionist line which I have of too.

  • @blackkoala
    @blackkoala 2 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing, love the watch

  • @billrichardson6620
    @billrichardson6620 3 роки тому +1

    Beautiful and classy watch you have here Sir

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  3 роки тому

      Thank you Sir. I am blessed to be able to have a watch like this 🙏🏻

  • @Wolf_K
    @Wolf_K 4 роки тому

    That’s developed a great patina. Very nice.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you. Its become even more rich and dark brown since this video 👌🏻

  • @parthadas4026
    @parthadas4026 4 роки тому +1

    love the watch keep uploading love from a watch lover from India Assam

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed the video and thank you so much for the support :)

  • @rogerandersen4644
    @rogerandersen4644 4 роки тому +1

    Hello!
    Love that watch, nice patina. Not as extreme as some of the other bronzos.
    But i have a couple of questions:
    Have your skin ever reacted to the bronze? I know that the backside of the case is steel, but still - the bronze around the steel will still touch the skin, right?
    Some people react to metals like bronze, as it is a "dirty" metal.
    And do you ever get green skin from the bronze?

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому +2

      Hi Roger,
      That's probably because the patina on mine is all natural, not forced like many others like to do & I rarely ever take my watch into the ocean.
      And to answer your questions:
      1. No reaction on my skin from bronze.
      2. No green skin from the bronze either.
      Hope this helps : )

  • @steveyrock1
    @steveyrock1 4 роки тому +2

    To clean, I would use soap, water, and soft tooth brush. It doesn't need it yet

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Steven Robinson thank you Steven. I get a bit paranoid about using a tooth brush tbh 🙊 but glad to know it doesn’t need cleaning yet. I will give it a few more months before I poke it with a moist cotton bud 😬

    • @steveyrock
      @steveyrock 4 роки тому +1

      @@AnIndianAbroad I hear the fear about the tooth brush but I have not had issues. If you are concerned the I would use a micro fiber cloth. In my experience the tooth brush gets in all the nooks and crannies.

  • @Juice56107
    @Juice56107 Рік тому

    I wish they made this with a black bezel and dial with circle indacies all the way around

  • @SIOrlove1
    @SIOrlove1 4 роки тому

    I love the patina on this. It looks beautiful. Did the watch come on that strap? Whether Tudor or you chose that strap, I love how well it works with that watch.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому +1

      The patina has grown even more beautiful since this video, absolutely love it too. And yes, this is one of the straps you can choose for this watch so this is the official Tudor strap 🙌🏻

  • @dc2maniac
    @dc2maniac Рік тому

    It look gorgeous

  • @soulrebelno1
    @soulrebelno1 4 роки тому +1

    If you want to clean bronze you can use lemon juice (citric acid).

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      soulrebelno1 thank you. I ended up using a moist cotton bud to even out some of the patina. And looks much better now 😬

    • @soulrebelno1
      @soulrebelno1 4 роки тому

      @@AnIndianAbroad Glad it helped. The longer you leave it on, the more it will clean the bronze. I've just ordered a new CuSn8 phosphor bronze watch, should arrive this week, can't wait.

  • @enriquesaez1996
    @enriquesaez1996 3 роки тому

    Thanks. Very helpfull review

  • @nomanmcshmoo8640
    @nomanmcshmoo8640 4 роки тому

    How is that gorgeous watch looking now? I have a Glycine Combat Sub in Bronze. Like your Tudor, my Glycine was VERY rose gold at first....but after wearing it for three months in the Arizona heat, it has started to turn a gorgeous, proper bronze color. For the first month or so, it turned my wrist green but once the surface properly passivated, I haven't had a problem. I plan on leaving mine to continue aging. I am dying for Black Bay...maybe someday.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  3 роки тому

      This Tudor only gets better with time to be honest. I haven’t had any of the green stuff on my wrist ever, even though the clasp had developed some of that. Easily cleaned & it hasn’t returned. I would highly recommend this (or any other) Tudor with the only caveat being - these are VERY addictive watches and I don’t think you can buy just one.
      I am already looking to acquire another one soon 🤞🏻

    • @nomanmcshmoo8640
      @nomanmcshmoo8640 3 роки тому

      @@AnIndianAbroad I really appreciate your color choice. The slate grey on bronze is very subdued and pleasant.

  • @nathantittensor9644
    @nathantittensor9644 3 роки тому

    Would be interested to see your patina development now it has been another 12 months.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  3 роки тому

      Have you seen the 18month patina update on this watch?
      ua-cam.com/video/YrikDnX_1Yg/v-deo.html
      2 year update should follow soon. Stay tuned! 🙌🏻

  • @Barnaby_bo
    @Barnaby_bo 4 роки тому +1

    Surprised to see how much the crystal sticks above the bezel

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Yep. It is a domed sapphire crystal and could have done with being a flat one tbh. More likes & dislikes on this watch in my next video going live tomorrow at 6pm 🙌🏻

  • @samhouston5217
    @samhouston5217 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for your video. This is the first one I've seen of a bronze watch that has dulled. I was considering a Yema bronze superman, but now that I see it dulls that bad I'm reconsidering. Would that come clean pretty easily? How often to keep clean? every month or so I wonder.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому +1

      Glad you found the video worthwhile. And honestly, just because the bronze on my watch has dulled, does not necessarily mean it will behave the same for you too. That is the thing about Bronze watches, they develop unique patina based on who/how/where wears it.
      And from what I have heard, it is possible to clean/restore a bronze watch to how it was on day 1, but I personally would never do that as patina is what makes this watch unique to the owner.
      In the last 12 months, I have only cleaned it once. And that too, to simply remove the green residue on the watch, without affecting any patina. Hope this helps, good luck with your purchase.

    • @samhouston5217
      @samhouston5217 4 роки тому +1

      @@AnIndianAbroad Thank you again for your video and your response. Kind Regards and cheers.

    • @softmetals3702
      @softmetals3702 4 роки тому

      the answer indian didnt give you, yes it can clean up to new look check out some patina on watch videos and youll see what you can do with the bronze its cool that it changes and can be cleaned back unlike any of the steel.

  • @fteambjj
    @fteambjj 3 роки тому

    I'd love my bronze watch to go green. In artifacts when it goes green/blue its more appreciated.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  3 роки тому +1

      Not a fan of the green but love everything else about the patina and this watch.

    • @fteambjj
      @fteambjj 3 роки тому

      @@AnIndianAbroad just rrad that the green can be toxic for the body 😂

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  3 роки тому +1

      @@fteambjj Oh dear 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @robertsullivan4773
    @robertsullivan4773 4 роки тому

    I'm glad I came across this video. I have been thinking buying Rado's new Bronze Captain Cook Diver. Looking at your BB Bronze you have given me a great preview of what to expect to happen to my Bronze watch. I keep telling myself the patina will make the watch look very nautical which since its a diver is 👌. Not sure if Bronze make much sense for other dress or sports models though. Anyway you have given me a lot to think about
    By the way I've read that Rado is a very popular watch brand in India is this true. Thanks for your video.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Hey Robert, glad you found the video useful. And the Bronze Rado looks like a very well made watch, especially love the quick release mechanism on its strap. And yes, Rado is a very popular brand in India. In fact, that reminds me, my Dad’s first ‘proper’ watch was a Rado as well. All the best for your next purchase. Do let me know which one you buy when you do 🙏🏻 stay safe.

    • @robertsullivan4773
      @robertsullivan4773 4 роки тому +1

      @@AnIndianAbroad I'll let you know what I decide. It's pretty much 50/50 if I get it. I have my grail watch in my sites for sometime this year it's a Blancpain Fifty fathoms. So not sure if I want to spend $2800. USD on a Bronze novelty watch. But as I said your video was helpful in letting me know what to expect if I do. By the way seeing your should I assume your not living in India.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Makes sense. Fifty Fathoms is an entirely different league. And yes, originally from Mumbai, I now live in London. Are you in the UK too?

    • @robertsullivan4773
      @robertsullivan4773 4 роки тому +1

      @@AnIndianAbroad Nope, but I follow the London guys like Bark &Jack, Paul Thorpe and others. Also Watch Finder and other dealers.

  • @soulrebelno1
    @soulrebelno1 4 роки тому +1

    Citric acid will remove rust, as well!

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Well, thankfully there is no rust on mine......yet!

  • @islandmerchandise3017
    @islandmerchandise3017 2 роки тому

    Do a video cleaning it

  • @mephistox5784
    @mephistox5784 4 роки тому +1

    When I first got my original BBB it looked like come from Bali

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      I am not sure what a watch that came from Bali looks like but I am hoping it looks good still?

  • @gurtana
    @gurtana 4 роки тому +1

    Did you ask the dealer about the green on the strap?

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      gurtana Not yet. I will take it in this weekend though.

  • @Skyiota
    @Skyiota 4 роки тому

    Clean it with a brush and hand soap. I just bought it today 🥰

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому +1

      The only cleaning equipment that goes anywhere near this watch is a moist cotton bud. So not sure if I will ever get the courage to use a brush on it but congratulations on the new purchase. Enjoy it in good health.

    • @Skyiota
      @Skyiota 4 роки тому +1

      @@AnIndianAbroad thanks! With a clean soft brush, water and hand soap you can clean your watch even in the smallest corner. Don't worry, a clean soft brush cannot scratch or damage a watch. I'm watchmaker and I'll do it all the time 👍🏻.

  • @rustyshackleford17
    @rustyshackleford17 3 роки тому

    Anything consisting of that amount of copper will patina and eventually go green. But the allow that Tudor uses slows that process down.
    A lot of the oxidation process is dependent on your own unique chemistry. How you sweat and how you wear/use it will also play a part in it. I have some bright green verdigris scaling on mine.
    Personally, don't clean up the watch. All you did was waste all the time spent developing the patina.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  3 роки тому

      Agreed. And I only clean the hideous green algae not the brown patina.

  • @danisheverblue
    @danisheverblue 4 роки тому +2

    Search here on youtube - how to clean and take care of your bronze watch by Christopher ward.
    It's very helpful and east to understand & do.
    Cheers.
    Let me know on what you think on it.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Danish Everblue Thank you for sharing the video my friend. Very helpful. Not sure if I would want to remove the patina but I can def try part 1 of cleaning the watch soon. 😬🙏🏻

    • @danisheverblue
      @danisheverblue 4 роки тому

      @@AnIndianAbroad hey, happy to help.
      After you try, let me know on how the cleaning part works.
      Cheers.

  • @mao7
    @mao7 4 роки тому

    I have a black bay 58 given to me but it came with the bracelet. Anyone know where I can get the strap seen in this video?
    Been searching but all I find is are nato or zulu straps with a different buckle shape..

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Whoever gave you a 58 must love you a lot, absolutely stunning watch that. And as for the replacement strap, I believe a Tudor AD is your best bet as I have rarely seen them being sold anywhere else. And even if I did, I would rather buy it from an AD for peace of mind. Hope this helps 🙌🏻

    • @mao7
      @mao7 4 роки тому +1

      An Indian Abroad
      Thank you sir, that's sound advice. Never really thought of going to an AD. Apart from my seiko, this is my first luxury watch.. ADs are not a thing I would go to regularly.
      I agree it's a great watch, I'm young but somehow the watch evokes a feeling of nostalgia, I guess similar to what your beautiful Black bay Bronze does.
      I just hope that in the future they release a version of your watch in the 38-40mm size.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      No worries Mao. And I agree, for a regular cheapish watch I generally don’t bother going to the AD often. But Tudors are such great timepieces that I would only ever trust an AD, plus you also get to learn about & try out a lot of other tudors while enjoying a drink (mostly coffee for me) 😉

  • @bjr2292
    @bjr2292 4 роки тому +1

    Wear it in the water, it will speed up patina big time

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      I have gone for a dip at the beach with it only once but so far loving how the patina has developed.

  • @lowend5566
    @lowend5566 4 роки тому

    Let me get this straight; you had it for a couple of months and you didn't wear it. I haven't taken mine off since I got it.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому +2

      G Bass 🙈 came from humble beginnings and just couldn’t believe I was able to buy a watch this expensive.
      So literally just use to come home from work, open the box and feel happy that I owned this watch in the early days.
      And now, I can’t take it off either 😍

  • @waltdude
    @waltdude 2 роки тому

    Use ketchup to bring back the shine

  • @soulrebelno1
    @soulrebelno1 4 роки тому +1

    By the way, never order a watch strap from Cheapest NATO Straps. Terrible company, read the reviews on Trustpilot.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому

      Will do. Thank you so much for the headsup 👍🏻 one of your other comments has made it to my next video so stay tuned 😃 goes live tomorrow at 6pm UK time 🙏🏻

  • @bobbybackmarker9665
    @bobbybackmarker9665 4 роки тому

    I hope bronze is a passing trend.

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому +2

      Bobby Backmarker well, not that I know much about watches but, I kind of like the forever changing nature of bronze, don’t you?

    • @bobbybackmarker9665
      @bobbybackmarker9665 4 роки тому +2

      @@AnIndianAbroad Not to my taste at all. I prefer the finely brushed or polished facets to be seen. I appreciate the appeal for many, but to my eyes bronze with a patina looks tatty. There's a reason older gentlemen still polish the brass buttons on their blazers. Lol

    • @AnIndianAbroad
      @AnIndianAbroad  4 роки тому +3

      Bobby Backmarker well, to each his own. I personally dont like the silver metal look on my watches. So for me it will either have to be bronze with patina or some sort of dark black metal 🤓

    • @UnderSurveillanceAP
      @UnderSurveillanceAP 4 роки тому

      @@AnIndianAbroad have you looked at the ceramic watch cases by Omega?