@@AndrewRusherLDS there is absolutely no evidence they did, the use of a proper name for God, as if there are others from whom he needs to be distinguished, disappeared in Judaism hundreds of years before Christ, why would the Christians revive it?
@@AndrewRusherLDSthe early Christians all used the Septuagint, not the hebrew Bible. This is evidenced by how almost every time the gospel quotes the old testament it’s taken verbatim from the Septuagint. The Septuagint always replaces the Tetragrammaton with Kyrios. They never used His name because it’s disrespectful
@@Michael-bk5nz The Jews viewed God's name as so holy that they didn't want to dishonor God by misusing it or saying it wrong so they stopped saying God's name but God's name remained, some Christians don't follow this custom such as Yahweh's Pioneers.
I was part of the Sacred Name cult years ago. There were MANY heresies and misinformation and led many away from Christ. By Gods grace I got out of there...
this is so absurd to demand people to use the Hebrew term for Lord , at the time of Jesus in his ministry there would have been the Greek Septuagint and the Aramaic targums which would have used other names based on translation like Kyrios for the greek which is what the new testament writers used. we can approach God in any language
@@AndrewRusherLDS yes but also because there are places were greek would have been spoken by the people in the scripture like john 12 but i was referring to the greek Septuagint which is the greek translation of the old testament
Were true names required by God he would have passed it down clearly in his 10 commandments, likely as part of the first. If Jesus required it his disciples would have all been speaking this crucial bit of information every time they spoke of what was required for salvation.
Hank Hill: "Excuse me, ya'll with that weird christian denomination?" Assemblies of Yahweh: "We don't identify with the rest of what you know as "Christianity", we're the True Worshipers of-" Hank Hill: "Yea this is it."
Get outta here with your reading comprehension skills. No true follower of God would allow himself to be swayed by small and stupid stumbling blocks like "what Jesus actually said" and "common sense" :p
Growing up in a conservative souther Baptist church a lot of Hislop's theories flote around, but i had never heard the name. Its an area where a lot are just ignorant to where the info came from.
Another really interesting and very cool video from the Ready To Harvest channel. Thank You Mr.Lindsey for another amazing video. I'm always learning from you. You're very well spoken and I trust your videos.
Hi Ready to Harvest. I would have liked to credit you and know your name for a well put together video. Mostly, it seems to be very accurate. I can seldom fault it and it has really pleased me that you have done your research in to this faith, without condemning it, or adding any bias to the video. May Yahweh bless you. I'm a member of the Assemblies of Yahweh and have been affiliated with this incredible faith all my life. It thrills me to know that you are one of very few people who have objectively covered the Assemblies of Yahweh in a very informative video. I'm going to deal with some of these negative remarks in this comment section, but thought I'd just compliment yourself and say that the video was well put together and you clearly put in a lot of effort. May Yahweh receive all the glory.
Thank you, I'm glad to hear your evaluation of the video. I strive for completely accurate represention of everyone I discuss on this channel. My name is Joshua. Glad to have you as a viewer!
I'm curious why the "Mission Statement" page refers to "70 C.E." rather than "70 A.D."? "Current Era" is a phrase used by people we'd both agree want to ignore Jesus / Yashua and diminish his influence.
0:35 What is this, a crossover episode? I love that someone fractures into their own denomination because they're super bothered by the concept of transliteration. Do they do that for Biblical figures who aren't Jesus?
I keep running into people who insist on using the Yeshua/Yehoshua irl. What gets me is that these people are often the most historically, theologically, and linguistically illiterate people you will ever meet and yet act like they’ve obtained some kind of esoteric knowledge that has been repressed. Like, if God can’t tell I’m referring to him because I used the wrong word, then he’s not really omniscient is he? It’s effectively treating the name as magic word or an incantation, rather than recognizing the name is just a referential signifier, which again seems like a petty limitation on a supposedly infinite being. And if you follow their logic to its natural conclusions, you always end up at a point that resembles some weird kind of neo-Gnosticism or just plain old Nestorianism because they end up treating The human aspect of Jesus the Human person and Christ the Divine person as separate entities.
yep and the new testament was written in Greek, not Hebrew. Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews? A: Matthew 21:43 - Therefore say I (Jesus speaking to the Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. Why the new testament was written in Greek, not Hebrew.
Yes. many, but not all, Hebrew Roots groups have their history in these beliefs whether they know it or not. There are Hebrew roots groups that hold to pronouncing the sacred name and others that do not.
The transliterations I think are the closest to the Hebrew based on extensive conversations with native Hebrew speakers are, Yehoshua translated Joshua in English and for the tetragrammaton Yehovah or Yehowah. But the idea that anyone not using the sacred names as understood by these groups aren't saved from the lake of fire is an eronius teaching. I have had more than one encounter with such people and it's never turned out well. Full disclosure I am fairly good at reading Biblical Hebrew.
I drive past the YahWehs Assemble in Messiah billboard on my way to and from work. I always wondered what they were and what they believed. I always just assumed they were Messianic Jews. Very informative.
There was a church building near where I grew up. It looked like an old fashoned warehouse with a broadcast antenna. Didn't know what it was but assumed it was a cut.
I occasionally drive past what looks like their headquarters on Interstate 78 in eastern Pennsylvania (Bethel). They have huge radio antennas erected on the north side of the interstate, I guess that's how they broadcast.
I know immediately not to take a church very seriously if they get stuck on an issue of God's name. He has over 30 names in scripture, never rejects to any of them, including the ones pagans gave him. If the scripture does not make an issue of it, I don't either.
I agree. We should be able to call God whatever we want. We should blow off what the Bible says about the importance of words and names. Besides, it's 2024. No one takes the Bible literally.
As an ethic Jew, born into the Reform Movement, i found this denomination fascinating. In some ways i sympathize with their tenets and beliefs, in others ways i do not. I am interested in non-Trinitarian Christianity and also in Sabbath-Keeping Christians who use a Lunar calendar.
As a Catholic, I wonder how the Protestant churches would react to the claims the AoY makes about the ecumenical movement. I doubt any of them are enthusiastic at the prospect of joining with Rome, and certainly nearly all of them would vehemently oppose any claim of such. On our end, anyway, though the amount of ecumenical dialogue we’ve participated in has increased over the last sixty years, our traditions and customs are distinct enough from most Protestants that many of our own are probably hesitant about full Christian unity, as that would probably require numerous concessions on our end at this present time.
I would say Confessional Lutherans are in a similar boat. We strive for unity, but there are many customs that are so different, and doctrinal issues we draw a hard line on, that we'd either have to stop caring about, or they would have to adopt.
I mean, if it came down between the Vatican and these guys, it's an easy choice. But I see *harmony* with Rome (working together where doctrinal stances permit) as the end goal, not necessarily ecclesiastical unity. Full communion is probably not possible unless the Vatican backs down on what one has to believe about the nature of the Eucharist (even to the point of allowing the Lutheran view).
We can, I think have fellowship without sacrificing our distinct interpretations. We can acknowledge our differences, but focus on areas of agreement. It's likely happening on the individual level, but there will always be people who will not.
Ancient Hebrew wouldn't have pronounced the name anything like Yahweh. The w and y sounds may not have even been sounds in the language, and were influenced by Yiddish and Coptic in modern Hebrew. Likewise, the name would probably have either been four consonants and four vowels, or four consonants and three vowels. That makes Jehovah closer, but still off, because the J sound was also likely not in ancient Hebrew. The assumption that Coptic hasn't changed significantly in 2000 years is silly. The name probably sounded nothing like anyone speculates, which is why it's annoying when some Christians make a big deal out of saying Yahweh.
the linguistic consensus is that y & w were the original sounds & j & v are later pronunciations influenced by sound shifts in european languages, you can see this when you look at the arabic, a close living relative of biblical hebrew, Ijob (Job) becomes Ayyoub, & Havah (Eve) becomes Hawwa
I’ve always preferred professor Yitzchak Friedman’s answer in his 2011 monograph of Yahūwah. IPA transcription being [jahu:wah] or perhaps [jɑhu:wɑh] based on what we’d expect from Proto-Semitic. Obviously with a fully pronounced h coda, which is something most language cultures on Earth can’t produce, and is only retained from PS by a very small amount of Semitic language speakers. But really something has always bugged me about this whole debate: Moses wouldn’t’ve spoken Hebrew. He would’ve spoken Egyptian. So why try to get a Hebrew-realized YHWH instead of an Ancient Egyptian one? It seems silly to me.
The 2000-year plus wisdom of Jewish tradition in this matter is evident: The Tetragrammaton is not pronounced as written, and the name A-donai, meaning Lord or Master (a name which God is often called in the Hebrew Bible), is substituted. This is where the Greek "Kurios," "Lord," found in the LXX and the NT is derived from.
@@jeremias-serus What makes you think that Moses also wouldn't have known Hebrew? Don't forget that he spent the first 2-3 years of his life raised by his own mother. Besides this, presumably he would have had a royal education and may have learned the language of the slave population to better rule them. And then, failing all that, there is the more theological possibility that God transformed his speech....But I'm not sure I even understand your basic premise-why does the native language Moses spoke change what God reveals to Moses in Hebrew about His own name?
@@jeremias-serusMoses would have spoken Hebrew, unless if you believe that the Pentateuch was originally written in Egyptian and later translated to Hebrew what you’re saying doesn’t make much sense.
I have seen „sacred name“ doctrines influence pastors of Pentecostal and Evangelical pastors in the Philippines. In their judaizing zeal, they teach about Yahweh and Yeshua, keeping certain Jewish feasts and abolishing Christmas celebrations. We usually call them „Hebrew Roots“, but have not come across this peculiar denomination.
To me, the craziest thing is their denial that the New Testament was written in Greek, by the first century, Hebrew was similar to Latin today, used for prayers and studied to be able to read the scriptures but dead as a language of day to day activities, writing the New Testament in Hebrew would practically guarantee no one could read it
@@timlocke3159 except the Church Fathers, the disciples of The Apostles. In their writings, it is clear that the people who knew the people who knew Jesus personally were Trinitarian
Sounds a lot like LDS Restoration theology, including the "Elohim" bit. Those who profess the Jewish faith would NEVER utter the sacred Name of Ya--eh.
"Men are not to be clean-shaven or even trim their beards." I always enjoy knowing each group's most obscure rule on why I'm going to Hell. I'm waiting for one to say glasses show a lack of faith in God's design or something.
The First Century Gospel Church based out of Philadelphia believe that only faith healing should be used to treat ailments, including not using corrective glasses. Two of their members were convicted of manslaughter for letting their child die of a treatable illness.
I'm surprised you got to the Sacred Name Movement. I've studied them and have been perplexed by them. Keep up the good work and hope that one day you can get to the other Mormon groups that refused to go along with Brigham Young after the death of Joseph Smith. They are a interesting group.
A mixture of Judaism, Arianism, and conspiracy theories. The pacifism part might be the result of Meyer's Anabaptist background. I have driven by this cult's headquarters many times on Interstate 78 near Bethel, Pennsylvania.
@@majafleur9646 Without this quality content, one would assume they were copies or splinter groups. The parallels are just too eerie to wonder if they have some connection at all.
8:34 "Clearly we are not born again when we are baptized and receive the Holy Spirit as a gift into our hearts. We are born from above at the resurrection of the dead" Oh wow, I thought that as a kid on my own that being born again refers to the resurrection, didn't think anyone else came to the same conclusion. I don't beleive that anymore but this is interesting nonetheless that the thought wasn't original
Thanks for the great summary. Poll: Is a cult? 1. Faiths are suspect when they dismiss other faiths and come up with such drastic 'doctrine' and rules. 2. If all of this is true, I ask God just to snuff out my soul. I don't want to be around. 3. A loving God would not ignore 99.99999% of his greatest creation.
SO cool I found this. I was raised in this religion. Under Elder Meyer l. I’m an atheist but that’s neat you’re covering the AOY. Definitely don’t agree with this group or any other religion. But like I said still cool to see you give a break down of this group.
I have "saints,angels,demons,agents" who persist in touching me and getting on my back. Who is taught about "touch"? I have asked repeatedly that they stop with the touching and attempted entrapment. HELP!
I remember falling into a rabbit hole and discovering a website about a similar denomination to this one. The difference was that instead of a seventh day Sabbath, they kept a 'lunar Sabbath'. I think they also rejected Paul's teachings and never used words of 'pagan origin' like the months of the year. Could you cover it in a future video?
I do have a couple videos on this topic. The Worldwide Church of God changed their beliefs and their name. They are now known as Grace Communion International. Video on them here: ua-cam.com/video/ouY-Z03PEt4/v-deo.html If you want to know what they looked like before they changed, I have a video on the United Church of God, which split from them to maintain the original teachings: ua-cam.com/video/4VTn23b43I4/v-deo.html
Interesting but a this group need to read and study hebrews and galatians. Once again we have here a judaizer and arian groups. That's very bad and that's not the gospel like Jesus teach us.
@@astutik8909 a Jew by ethnicity yes Romans 1:3//Romans 9:5 but a judaizer I don't think so because he says that's God want worship in truth and spirit and he came to give his live to a random and for a new alliance, so he brokes the mosaic testament
@@hanshandinineko4201 how did he break it, if he was still preaching it? He commanded the disciples to follow all the pharisees told them, but warned, they say, but they do not do.
Don't tell these people that Jesus and the people that he associated with spoke Aramaic and not Hebrew, and so no one would have referred to him as "Yeshua". Instead, they would have referred to him as "Isho". Also, we don't know that it was pronounced "Yahweh" all we have are the four consonants.
Yeah but I imagine they never consulted the major groups of Christianity that use/used aramaic because they’re usually either Catholic or Orthodox aligned.
Did the police in Acts ask Paul if he spoke Aramaic! No, he asked if Paul spoke HEBREW. Paul addressed the synagogue in Hebrew, the language of the Jews. Where do you get the false notion that Jesus spoke Aramaic? A few Aramaic words found their way into the Hebrew language, but that’s pretty normal in adjacent cultures.
@@Bobbychildree Paul was a pharisee originally, hence why it could be expected he would know some Hebrew. Most Jews of the time would have spoken Aramaic in day to day matters, with Hebrew largely being relegated for religious and scholarly work. Hellenised Jews would have spoken Greek. What language do you think Jesus was crying out in Mark and Matthew? Aramaic had been imposed generations before the time of Jesus. The entire reason why Targum - aramaic translations of the Hebrew Bible and portions thereof - is because lots of Jews had started speaking Aramaic thanks to the Babylonian exile. Hebrew would be unintelligible to them the same way most English speaking Catholic laymen would find Latin to be unknown. And as a side note the Maronite Church retains the use of aramaic in its liturgy, especially for the consecration of the eucharist.
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Another case of a Catholic/Orthodox not being able to defend their blatant idolatry, so they point to wackier cults than themselves and say, "All protestants are like this, you better join us if you don't want to be like THEM." I'm really sick of it. I am an Independent Fundamentalist BAPTIST. I am not a part of any other group besides my local church. I do not answer for somebody else's heresy or error. I am responsible before God for the doctrine I endorse AND THAT'S IT.
This is why I'm not Protestant (dismiss the importance of baptism and the Lord's Supper) and I'm not Catholic (a bunch of extra ordinances prescribed by men and not God's Word). I'm a Christian only, no book but the Bible, and no head of His church but Christ.
Another example of people who are willing to have their ears tickled. People are easily led astray. The Bible foretold this would happen more in the last days.
Herbert Armstrong taught many of the same doctrines as the Assemblies of Yahweh. For example, he claimed Jesus was not crucified on a cross but a single stake. A the time I thought he took that belief from the Jehovah Witnesses. Fortunately I left the Armstrong group in 1971.
Biblically Sunday isn't the Sabbath so unless something fell on Sunday to make it a sabbath, they would consider it to be a non-sabbath day. An interesting fact is that while most Christians believe Sunday is the Christian Sabbath, they have no problem working or causing others to work which are Sabbath breaking.
I’ve always wondered what these groups would say the Sabbath is for countries that have their weeks start on Monday and end on Sunday. In France for example, the first day of the week is Monday and the last day is Sunday. Calendars in France all have Mondays on the far left and Sundays on the far right. I’be always wondered if they would still celebrate Sabbath on Saturday or Sunday…
@@McGheeBentle The Bible would be followed so it would still be Friday evening to Saturday evening or Saturday if you follow the midnight to midnight system.
A Devout Client of Mary Shall Never Suffer the Loss of His Soul There was a certain man who was religious in name only, but, wherever true religion was concerned, hard-hearted and careless. He was, however, in the habit of praying to the Blessed Virgin and saying once everyday a hundred “Hail, Mary’s.” Coming near his end, he was caught away in an ecstasy, and devils charged him before the Great Judge seeking a sentence that would adjudge him to be theirs. God, therefore, knowing his manifold sins, said that he must be condemned. Meantime the Blessed Virgin came offering schedules in which were contained all the “Hail Mary’s,” and begging her Son to allow him to receive a milder sentence. But the devils brought many books full of his sins. ‘The books on both sides were put into the scales, but the sins weighed most. Then the Blessed Virgin, seeing She was doing no good, earnestly besought her Son, saying: “Remember, Beloved, that Thou didst receive of my substance, visible, tangible and sensible substance; give to me one drop of Thy blood shed for sinners in Thy passion.” And he replied: “It is impossible to deny thee anything. Yet know that one drop of my blood weighs heavier than all the sins of the whole world. Receive therefore thy request.” Receiving it, She placed it in the scales, and all those sins of the religious weighed against it as light as ashes.‘Then the devils departed in confusion, crying out and saying: “The Lady is too merciful to Christians; we fail as often as She comes to contend with us.” And so the man’s spirit returned to his body, and on recovery he related the whole tale and became a true monk. Taken From The Glories of Mary By Saint Alphonsus Liguori
They aren’t Protestant. Protestants are the denominations that developed during the Protestant reformation. Oh look! Another comment from someone online who has no clue what they’re talking about, imagine that.
It's downright EVIL to promote the idea that God designed his universe in such a way that hundreds of millions of people are condemned simply because they didn't happen to have a chance to know a particular name or set of events.
Simply put, there's no justification for the pronunciation "Yahshua" (Yehoshua or Yeshua or even Yeshu are possible for the original biblical name and later developments of that name-but not "Yahshua"). Besides this, AOY are an example of syncretism run amok! Either become Jews or submit to the historical Christian rejection of (most of) the commandments God revealed to Israel.
The name translated "James" in English is the name "Jacob" in Hebrew, so many Sacred Names groups and some Messianics also will call the book of James the Book of Jacob. (Tree of Life Bible Version does this too)
I am (ethnically) Jewish, and in my studies, Jews NEVER say the name of God, they use an indirect way of referring to God, usually A'-Doh- nai. It is considered so holy there are about 100 names to indirectly refer to God, and only use Adonai in prayer.
The church followed with this practice. Nobody ever called Him by the Tetragrammaton until after the reformation, because ancient tradition held that you weren’t supposed to do that
There are over 100 names to use instead. Even in writing it is almost always to written as yy( in Hebrew) it is too holy to spell the indirect name. Anyone in who says otherwise is just making it up!
why turn yourself into another cult when the Lord Jesus said it was not by his name that we are saved, but by the fact that he would take our sin into his body and become like a serpent on the cross. John 3:14-15 If we believe this we have eternal life, not if we believe in a Jewish name, which by the way the man who wrote most of the New Testament was a Jewish Rabbi who refused to use this Jewish name that this cult is over emphasizing. .
When I read the first sentence in the mission statement, I had to roll my eyes. I heard the same patter from the Churches of Christ/Restoration Movement, which I grew up in. It's fun to take a step back and compare and contrast.
Oh, look, someone else vomited up a false religion because he wasn't as important in the church he left as he thought he should be. All of the differences from sound doctrine are carefully crafted to make congregants fear they're turning their back on the Lord if ever they leave. Typical cult.
Poor early christians all condemned to hell for using Kyrios instead of Yahweh
They likely did use Yahweh, they likely just didn't make a rule about it.
@@AndrewRusherLDS there is absolutely no evidence they did, the use of a proper name for God, as if there are others from whom he needs to be distinguished, disappeared in Judaism hundreds of years before Christ, why would the Christians revive it?
Led there by Christ's Apostles. Incredible. How deceived (and, frankly, stupid) does one have to be to have any part of this group? Sad.
@@AndrewRusherLDSthe early Christians all used the Septuagint, not the hebrew Bible. This is evidenced by how almost every time the gospel quotes the old testament it’s taken verbatim from the Septuagint. The Septuagint always replaces the Tetragrammaton with Kyrios. They never used His name because it’s disrespectful
@@Michael-bk5nz The Jews viewed God's name as so holy that they didn't want to dishonor God by misusing it or saying it wrong so they stopped saying God's name but God's name remained, some Christians don't follow this custom such as Yahweh's Pioneers.
I was part of the Sacred Name cult years ago. There were MANY heresies and misinformation and led many away from Christ. By Gods grace I got out of there...
Looks like you got way out of there, all the way back to the Apostolic faith. Glory to God.
Praise God!
@@munkee59huh?
They still have a shortwave station WMLK in Bethel that covers the entire USA. I hear it frequently.
This is the danger when someone learns one or two Hebrew words
Exactly! I was in this movement at one time. Everyone thinks they are hebrew experts and try to correct the Jews and none of them know hebrew 😂
@@Donnielucas77 funny, and sad...
this is so absurd to demand people to use the Hebrew term for Lord , at the time of Jesus in his ministry there would have been the Greek Septuagint and the Aramaic targums which would have used other names based on translation like Kyrios for the greek which is what the new testament writers used. we can approach God in any language
Greek was used for the New Testament because the Gospel was going out to non-Jews & Greek likely was understood more by non-Jews.
@@AndrewRusherLDS yes but also because there are places were greek would have been spoken by the people in the scripture like john 12 but i was referring to the greek Septuagint which is the greek translation of the old testament
Definitely.
God knows His name in ALL languages ❗️
Were true names required by God he would have passed it down clearly in his 10 commandments, likely as part of the first. If Jesus required it his disciples would have all been speaking this crucial bit of information every time they spoke of what was required for salvation.
I wonder what their thoughts are on the peshitta.
Judaizing, Arianism, Hislop’s conspiracy theories, and the torture stake, ¡Ay caramba!
Don’t forget Macedonianism!
Oof....
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@@matthewjensen5522 You're right!
There is only one God.
@@jordankaiser2717Indeed there is. In the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit amen.
I genuinely thought I heard "God was a methodist" at 0:10 and it took me a good minute to realise that wasn't said
Sorry but he's Jewish..
No, but God was a Nazarene lol
its like God has His own denomination that He personally believes in like “yeahh I think this one fits Me”
@@DepisTVLOL!
@@RealGalaxyGamersLOL!
Hank Hill: "Excuse me, ya'll with that weird christian denomination?"
Assemblies of Yahweh: "We don't identify with the rest of what you know as "Christianity", we're the True Worshipers of-"
Hank Hill: "Yea this is it."
"With all those V-Dubyas out front I thought this was a Unitarian Church"
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" -Matthew 28:19
Get outta here with your reading comprehension skills. No true follower of God would allow himself to be swayed by small and stupid stumbling blocks like "what Jesus actually said" and "common sense" :p
@@1313stjimmy You said God instead of Yahweh, repent before it's too late
Logically, they should reject the New Testament, which was written in Greek and hence didn´t include "the real names" of God and Jesus...
They claim it was originally written in Hebrew &/or Aramaic (nonsense for anything except perhaps Matthew). They are just insane philosemites.
Any church that officially cites Alexander Hislop as a source should be rejected.
Bingo
Growing up in a conservative souther Baptist church a lot of Hislop's theories flote around, but i had never heard the name. Its an area where a lot are just ignorant to where the info came from.
@benjaminwatt2436 yes bro. Just hearing this
Heresies. Heresies everywhere.
Connel & Donnel would have a field day.
“But that’s hEreSy Patrick!!”
Thread full of Bible illiterates
Mankind certainly knows how to mess the simple stuff up.
Just broke up with a woman whose Mom was assemblies. Good summary. Info was hard to find on this bunch.
Another really interesting and very cool video from the Ready To Harvest channel. Thank You Mr.Lindsey for another amazing video. I'm always learning from you. You're very well spoken and I trust your videos.
Thanks for this. I've engaged this people several times and they're always erratic and have no evidence for their claims!
As opposed to the other believers who are all level-headed and reasonable in their beliefs with iron-clad evidence for the Christian faith!
This denomination made by Christian inspired Redditors.
That's how this denomination is coming off as.
@@mr.goldenproductions_0143 Dunno what you're talking about.
@@ancapgrandscribe9546 LOL. They've got their own translations. When you start bringing evidences, they flare up.
Hi Ready to Harvest. I would have liked to credit you and know your name for a well put together video. Mostly, it seems to be very accurate. I can seldom fault it and it has really pleased me that you have done your research in to this faith, without condemning it, or adding any bias to the video. May Yahweh bless you. I'm a member of the Assemblies of Yahweh and have been affiliated with this incredible faith all my life. It thrills me to know that you are one of very few people who have objectively covered the Assemblies of Yahweh in a very informative video. I'm going to deal with some of these negative remarks in this comment section, but thought I'd just compliment yourself and say that the video was well put together and you clearly put in a lot of effort. May Yahweh receive all the glory.
Thank you, I'm glad to hear your evaluation of the video. I strive for completely accurate represention of everyone I discuss on this channel. My name is Joshua. Glad to have you as a viewer!
@@ReadyToHarvest Thank you Joshua for letting me know your name. Good name. Well may Yahweh bless you and keep up the good work. 😀
I'm curious why the "Mission Statement" page refers to "70 C.E." rather than "70 A.D."? "Current Era" is a phrase used by people we'd both agree want to ignore Jesus / Yashua and diminish his influence.
So paganism and judaizers?
Kancolle?
Trinitarians are the pagans
Ive been waiting for this video. This group has a been presence in central/western Missouri.
“Man is certainly stark mad; he cannot make a worm, and yet he will be making gods by dozens.” ― Montaigne,
0:35 What is this, a crossover episode?
I love that someone fractures into their own denomination because they're super bothered by the concept of transliteration.
Do they do that for Biblical figures who aren't Jesus?
Of course not! Why would they wanna be consistent?
I keep running into people who insist on using the Yeshua/Yehoshua irl. What gets me is that these people are often the most historically, theologically, and linguistically illiterate people you will ever meet and yet act like they’ve obtained some kind of esoteric knowledge that has been repressed.
Like, if God can’t tell I’m referring to him because I used the wrong word, then he’s not really omniscient is he? It’s effectively treating the name as magic word or an incantation, rather than recognizing the name is just a referential signifier, which again seems like a petty limitation on a supposedly infinite being.
And if you follow their logic to its natural conclusions, you always end up at a point that resembles some weird kind of neo-Gnosticism or just plain old Nestorianism because they end up treating The human aspect of Jesus the Human person and Christ the Divine person as separate entities.
Are they related to the Hebrew roots movement?
Very much so, in my opinion
yep and the new testament was written in Greek, not Hebrew.
Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews?
A: Matthew 21:43 - Therefore say I (Jesus speaking to the Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Why the new testament was written in Greek, not Hebrew.
Yes. many, but not all, Hebrew Roots groups have their history in these beliefs whether they know it or not. There are Hebrew roots groups that hold to pronouncing the sacred name and others that do not.
@@thedrummer17 and ALL the Hebrew Roots groups lead you AWAY from Jesus
The transliterations I think are the closest to the Hebrew based on extensive conversations with native Hebrew speakers are, Yehoshua translated Joshua in English and for the tetragrammaton Yehovah or Yehowah. But the idea that anyone not using the sacred names as understood by these groups aren't saved from the lake of fire is an eronius teaching. I have had more than one encounter with such people and it's never turned out well. Full disclosure I am fairly good at reading Biblical Hebrew.
It also necessiates that the Greek NT is fundamentally incorrect because it never once renders Jesus' 'real name'.
Thanks for getting around to making these videos. 👍
I drive past the YahWehs Assemble in Messiah billboard on my way to and from work. I always wondered what they were and what they believed. I always just assumed they were Messianic Jews. Very informative.
Crazy how all of their beliefs are backed by scripture and yet so many people in the comments are still against it
Please make video about Mariavitism (both Old Catholic Mariavite Church and Catholic Mariavite Church)
Sounds like Jehovah’s Witnesses, just with a little less German.
I wonder if a group broke away from them?
@@CharChar876yes, but not AoY. Several Bible Students groups.
Advocate or Paraclete in John 14 means one of equal representation. Jesus also said "He" not "it"
There was a church building near where I grew up. It looked like an old fashoned warehouse with a broadcast antenna. Didn't know what it was but assumed it was a cut.
I occasionally drive past what looks like their headquarters on Interstate 78 in eastern Pennsylvania (Bethel). They have huge radio antennas erected on the north side of the interstate, I guess that's how they broadcast.
I wonder why they refuse to spell out "Christ" and "Christianity". Perhaps they think these words are too idolatrous to be written at all.
I know immediately not to take a church very seriously if they get stuck on an issue of God's name. He has over 30 names in scripture, never rejects to any of them, including the ones pagans gave him. If the scripture does not make an issue of it, I don't either.
Exodus 20.7
I agree. We should be able to call God whatever we want. We should blow off what the Bible says about the importance of words and names. Besides, it's 2024. No one takes the Bible literally.
Huh, this theology has a very strong Jehowah witnesses vibe
What an amalgam of confessions and traditions.
As an ethic Jew, born into the Reform Movement, i found this denomination fascinating. In some ways i sympathize with their tenets and beliefs, in others ways i do not. I am interested in non-Trinitarian Christianity and also in Sabbath-Keeping Christians who use a Lunar calendar.
Come to Nazarene Judaism.
Orthodoxy
Come to nazarene judaism.
@@Nazarene_Judaism what is even that? modern judaism was invented in 300 ad while orthodoxy is the continuation of the Israelite religion.
@@garrettbar2212 Nazarene sect is the continuation. Not orthodoxy.
As a Catholic, I wonder how the Protestant churches would react to the claims the AoY makes about the ecumenical movement. I doubt any of them are enthusiastic at the prospect of joining with Rome, and certainly nearly all of them would vehemently oppose any claim of such.
On our end, anyway, though the amount of ecumenical dialogue we’ve participated in has increased over the last sixty years, our traditions and customs are distinct enough from most Protestants that many of our own are probably hesitant about full Christian unity, as that would probably require numerous concessions on our end at this present time.
I would say Confessional Lutherans are in a similar boat. We strive for unity, but there are many customs that are so different, and doctrinal issues we draw a hard line on, that we'd either have to stop caring about, or they would have to adopt.
I mean, if it came down between the Vatican and these guys, it's an easy choice. But I see *harmony* with Rome (working together where doctrinal stances permit) as the end goal, not necessarily ecclesiastical unity. Full communion is probably not possible unless the Vatican backs down on what one has to believe about the nature of the Eucharist (even to the point of allowing the Lutheran view).
Sola Scriptura alone will prevent that forever.
We can, I think have fellowship without sacrificing our distinct interpretations. We can acknowledge our differences, but focus on areas of agreement. It's likely happening on the individual level, but there will always be people who will not.
As soon as Rome reforms away from the Babylonian Mystery Religion stuff there might be a chance. Until then, not a chance.
Praise Yahweh for the truth being spoken This truth will set us free from worldly false doctrine
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Ancient Hebrew wouldn't have pronounced the name anything like Yahweh. The w and y sounds may not have even been sounds in the language, and were influenced by Yiddish and Coptic in modern Hebrew. Likewise, the name would probably have either been four consonants and four vowels, or four consonants and three vowels. That makes Jehovah closer, but still off, because the J sound was also likely not in ancient Hebrew. The assumption that Coptic hasn't changed significantly in 2000 years is silly.
The name probably sounded nothing like anyone speculates, which is why it's annoying when some Christians make a big deal out of saying Yahweh.
the linguistic consensus is that y & w were the original sounds & j & v are later pronunciations influenced by sound shifts in european languages, you can see this when you look at the arabic, a close living relative of biblical hebrew, Ijob (Job) becomes Ayyoub, & Havah (Eve) becomes Hawwa
I’ve always preferred professor Yitzchak Friedman’s answer in his 2011 monograph of Yahūwah. IPA transcription being [jahu:wah] or perhaps [jɑhu:wɑh] based on what we’d expect from Proto-Semitic. Obviously with a fully pronounced h coda, which is something most language cultures on Earth can’t produce, and is only retained from PS by a very small amount of Semitic language speakers.
But really something has always bugged me about this whole debate: Moses wouldn’t’ve spoken Hebrew. He would’ve spoken Egyptian. So why try to get a Hebrew-realized YHWH instead of an Ancient Egyptian one? It seems silly to me.
The 2000-year plus wisdom of Jewish tradition in this matter is evident: The Tetragrammaton is not pronounced as written, and the name A-donai, meaning Lord or Master (a name which God is often called in the Hebrew Bible), is substituted. This is where the Greek "Kurios," "Lord," found in the LXX and the NT is derived from.
@@jeremias-serus What makes you think that Moses also wouldn't have known Hebrew? Don't forget that he spent the first 2-3 years of his life raised by his own mother. Besides this, presumably he would have had a royal education and may have learned the language of the slave population to better rule them. And then, failing all that, there is the more theological possibility that God transformed his speech....But I'm not sure I even understand your basic premise-why does the native language Moses spoke change what God reveals to Moses in Hebrew about His own name?
@@jeremias-serusMoses would have spoken Hebrew, unless if you believe that the Pentateuch was originally written in Egyptian and later translated to Hebrew what you’re saying doesn’t make much sense.
I have seen „sacred name“ doctrines influence pastors of Pentecostal and Evangelical pastors in the Philippines. In their judaizing zeal, they teach about Yahweh and Yeshua, keeping certain Jewish feasts and abolishing Christmas celebrations. We usually call them „Hebrew Roots“, but have not come across this peculiar denomination.
This group is literally insane. Anyone who denied the Trinity is not "of us".
To me, the craziest thing is their denial that the New Testament was written in Greek, by the first century, Hebrew was similar to Latin today, used for prayers and studied to be able to read the scriptures but dead as a language of day to day activities, writing the New Testament in Hebrew would practically guarantee no one could read it
No one was Trinitarian until 300 years after Jesus.
@@timlocke3159 except the Church Fathers, the disciples of The Apostles. In their writings,
it is clear that the people who knew the people who knew Jesus personally were Trinitarian
The trinity is not found plainly in the Bible. It's traditional, but not biblical, even the New Catholic Encyclopedia admits that.
@@timlocke3159 the word “Trinity” was used by Origen in 180, 150 years before Nicea, but nice try
Sounds a lot like LDS Restoration theology, including the "Elohim" bit. Those who profess the Jewish faith would NEVER utter the sacred Name of Ya--eh.
"Men are not to be clean-shaven or even trim their beards."
I always enjoy knowing each group's most obscure rule on why I'm going to Hell. I'm waiting for one to say glasses show a lack of faith in God's design or something.
church i grew up in didnt allow beards at all hahaha. Funny little difference eh?
The First Century Gospel Church based out of Philadelphia believe that only faith healing should be used to treat ailments, including not using corrective glasses. Two of their members were convicted of manslaughter for letting their child die of a treatable illness.
@@nate8932 Old Oreder Amish don't grow beards until they are married.
I'm surprised you got to the Sacred Name Movement. I've studied them and have been perplexed by them. Keep up the good work and hope that one day you can get to the other Mormon groups that refused to go along with Brigham Young after the death of Joseph Smith. They are a interesting group.
A mixture of Judaism, Arianism, and conspiracy theories. The pacifism part might be the result of Meyer's Anabaptist background. I have driven by this cult's headquarters many times on Interstate 78 near Bethel, Pennsylvania.
They're... JW-adjacent but not?
Close!
Sorta
@@majafleur9646 Without this quality content, one would assume they were copies or splinter groups. The parallels are just too eerie to wonder if they have some connection at all.
The connection, or common ancestry, is Adventism via William Miller and the early pastors' views imprinted on the movement.
@@utubewatcher806 Ah thank you! Wondering how these two uncannily similar practises may share an origin.
Still praying you cover the schwenkfelder church
Thanks Lord for your salvation
Thanks Lord for your peace
Psalm 125 Jesus is Lord.
Thanks Lord for bible study class
Imagine an encounter between someone of the Assemblies of Yahweh and a Jehovah's Witness, boy oh boy...
Shlohm! What denomination, and/or ministry are you affiliated with Sir?
8:34 "Clearly we are not born again when we are baptized and receive the Holy Spirit as a gift into our hearts. We are born from above at the resurrection of the dead" Oh wow, I thought that as a kid on my own that being born again refers to the resurrection, didn't think anyone else came to the same conclusion.
I don't beleive that anymore but this is interesting nonetheless that the thought wasn't original
Very interesting Stuff Thank You !
Thanks for the great summary.
Poll: Is a cult?
1. Faiths are suspect when they dismiss other faiths and come up with such drastic 'doctrine' and rules.
2. If all of this is true, I ask God just to snuff out my soul. I don't want to be around.
3. A loving God would not ignore 99.99999% of his greatest creation.
"I can't decide whether to become a JW, Hebrew Roots or SDA."
"Why not all of them?"
SO cool I found this. I was raised in this religion. Under Elder Meyer l. I’m an atheist but that’s neat you’re covering the AOY. Definitely don’t agree with this group or any other religion. But like I said still cool to see you give a break down of this group.
I have "saints,angels,demons,agents" who persist in touching me and getting on my back. Who is taught about "touch"? I have asked repeatedly that they stop with the touching and attempted entrapment. HELP!
Informative.
I remember falling into a rabbit hole and discovering a website about a similar denomination to this one. The difference was that instead of a seventh day Sabbath, they kept a 'lunar Sabbath'. I think they also rejected Paul's teachings and never used words of 'pagan origin' like the months of the year. Could you cover it in a future video?
Please make video about Worldwide Church of God
I do have a couple videos on this topic. The Worldwide Church of God changed their beliefs and their name. They are now known as Grace Communion International. Video on them here: ua-cam.com/video/ouY-Z03PEt4/v-deo.html
If you want to know what they looked like before they changed, I have a video on the United Church of God, which split from them to maintain the original teachings: ua-cam.com/video/4VTn23b43I4/v-deo.html
@@ReadyToHarvest Thank you
Interesting but a this group need to read and study hebrews and galatians. Once again we have here a judaizer and arian groups. That's very bad and that's not the gospel like Jesus teach us.
Was Jesus both a jew and a judaizer?
Mark 12 verses 29 to 30.
@@astutik8909 a Jew by ethnicity yes Romans 1:3//Romans 9:5 but a judaizer I don't think so because he says that's God want worship in truth and spirit and he came to give his live to a random and for a new alliance, so he brokes the mosaic testament
They need to study the book of Acts, too. Especially Acts 10:15, which they disobey.
@@hanshandinineko4201 how did he break it, if he was still preaching it?
He commanded the disciples to follow all the pharisees told them, but warned, they say, but they do not do.
Does sound like they read the Watchtower/Jehovah’s Witnesses publications & made some tweaks
Great idea for a video. Yahuah is His name.
Your king is here
Just when I thought you must be beginning to run out of unusual churches and cults, you come up with these folk.
Can you please do a video on Witness Lee's Local Church ?
yes!!
Thre are some interesting pereraes between this and Mormonism
First time hearing of them.
A lot of similarities with JWs I'm noticing
I was waiting for him to mention JWs they sounded so alike
Very.
Don't tell these people that Jesus and the people that he associated with spoke Aramaic and not Hebrew, and so no one would have referred to him as "Yeshua". Instead, they would have referred to him as "Isho". Also, we don't know that it was pronounced "Yahweh" all we have are the four consonants.
Yeah but I imagine they never consulted the major groups of Christianity that use/used aramaic because they’re usually either Catholic or Orthodox aligned.
Did the police in Acts ask Paul if he spoke Aramaic! No, he asked if Paul spoke HEBREW. Paul addressed the synagogue in Hebrew, the language of the Jews. Where do you get the false notion that Jesus spoke Aramaic? A few Aramaic words found their way into the Hebrew language, but that’s pretty normal in adjacent cultures.
@@Bobbychildree Paul was a pharisee originally, hence why it could be expected he would know some Hebrew. Most Jews of the time would have spoken Aramaic in day to day matters, with Hebrew largely being relegated for religious and scholarly work. Hellenised Jews would have spoken Greek. What language do you think Jesus was crying out in Mark and Matthew? Aramaic had been imposed generations before the time of Jesus.
The entire reason why Targum - aramaic translations of the Hebrew Bible and portions thereof - is because lots of Jews had started speaking Aramaic thanks to the Babylonian exile. Hebrew would be unintelligible to them the same way most English speaking Catholic laymen would find Latin to be unknown.
And as a side note the Maronite Church retains the use of aramaic in its liturgy, especially for the consecration of the eucharist.
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“Baptize them in the name of the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost”
“Rise, Peter, kill and eat”
Two of their many errors.
Great video
treat yourself and read the whole of the chapter-you will then understand as Peter did!
@@marKer10-e6dread the rest of acts
Yet another example of
"Evangelicals having no sacraments, tradition, or meaning, so they borrow from Judaism and ancient heresy"
They split from methodists not an evangelical group
Believers Baptism and communion are the only Biblical sacraments. Anything else is manmade superstition.
Another case of a Catholic/Orthodox not being able to defend their blatant idolatry, so they point to wackier cults than themselves and say,
"All protestants are like this, you better join us if you don't want to be like THEM."
I'm really sick of it. I am an Independent Fundamentalist BAPTIST. I am not a part of any other group besides my local church. I do not answer for somebody else's heresy or error. I am responsible before God for the doctrine I endorse AND THAT'S IT.
This is why I'm not Protestant (dismiss the importance of baptism and the Lord's Supper) and I'm not Catholic (a bunch of extra ordinances prescribed by men and not God's Word).
I'm a Christian only, no book but the Bible, and no head of His church but Christ.
@@joshstucki4349 sounds pretty protestant to me
Another example of people who are willing to have their ears tickled. People are easily led astray. The Bible foretold this would happen more in the last days.
Heresies on top of more heresies
Well, I can agree with them that they're not Christians.
Halleluyah
Is this the same as the House of Yahweh
No, but House of Yahweh is another Sacred name group.
I came down here to scoff but I see y'all got it covered 🤭
Herbert Armstrong taught many of the same doctrines as the Assemblies of Yahweh. For example, he claimed Jesus was not crucified on a cross but a single stake. A the time I thought he took that belief from the Jehovah Witnesses. Fortunately I left the Armstrong group in 1971.
I hope someone translates your #ReadytoHarvest Videos into Tagalog!🙏🙏🙏
Do they called Sundays the Sabbath or something else?
Obviously, Sunday is only the first day of the week, and otherwise no more important than under Orthodox Judaism.
Biblically Sunday isn't the Sabbath so unless something fell on Sunday to make it a sabbath, they would consider it to be a non-sabbath day. An interesting fact is that while most Christians believe Sunday is the Christian Sabbath, they have no problem working or causing others to work which are Sabbath breaking.
I’ve always wondered what these groups would say the Sabbath is for countries that have their weeks start on Monday and end on Sunday. In France for example, the first day of the week is Monday and the last day is Sunday. Calendars in France all have Mondays on the far left and Sundays on the far right. I’be always wondered if they would still celebrate Sabbath on Saturday or Sunday…
@@McGheeBentle The Bible would be followed so it would still be Friday evening to Saturday evening or Saturday if you follow the midnight to midnight system.
@@AndrewRusherLDSwrong. Biblically the Sabbath is on Sunday, the Lord’s Day, Today. It has been so since the day of the resurrection.
A Devout Client of Mary Shall Never Suffer the Loss of His Soul
There was a certain man who was religious in name only, but, wherever true religion was concerned, hard-hearted and careless.
He was, however, in the habit of praying to the Blessed Virgin and saying once everyday a hundred “Hail, Mary’s.” Coming near his end, he was caught away in an ecstasy, and devils charged him before the Great Judge seeking a sentence that would adjudge him to be theirs. God, therefore, knowing his manifold sins, said that he must be condemned.
Meantime the Blessed Virgin came offering schedules in which were contained all the “Hail Mary’s,” and begging her Son to allow him to receive a milder sentence. But the devils brought many books full of his sins. ‘The books on both sides were put into the scales, but the sins weighed most. Then the Blessed Virgin, seeing She was doing no good, earnestly besought her Son, saying:
“Remember, Beloved, that Thou didst receive of my substance, visible, tangible and sensible substance; give to me one drop of Thy blood shed for sinners in Thy passion.”
And he replied: “It is impossible to deny thee anything. Yet know that one drop of my blood weighs heavier than all the sins of the whole world. Receive therefore thy request.”
Receiving it, She placed it in the scales, and all those sins of the religious weighed against it as light as ashes.‘Then the devils departed in confusion, crying out and saying: “The Lady is too merciful to Christians; we fail as often as She comes to contend with us.”
And so the man’s spirit returned to his body, and on recovery he related the whole tale and became a true monk.
Taken From The Glories of Mary By Saint Alphonsus Liguori
Just another American man made Protestant denomination
That’s already split into
Many
An
Absolute joke
They aren’t Protestant. Protestants are the denominations that developed during the Protestant reformation. Oh look! Another comment from someone online who has no clue what they’re talking about, imagine that.
It's downright EVIL to promote the idea that God designed his universe in such a way that hundreds of millions of people are condemned simply because they didn't happen to have a chance to know a particular name or set of events.
Simply put, there's no justification for the pronunciation "Yahshua" (Yehoshua or Yeshua or even Yeshu are possible for the original biblical name and later developments of that name-but not "Yahshua"). Besides this, AOY are an example of syncretism run amok! Either become Jews or submit to the historical Christian rejection of (most of) the commandments God revealed to Israel.
It's a cult.
No Trinity...Not Christian
lol. They definitely don’t claim to be Christian.
Please do sedevacantists
And sedeprivationists!
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8:58 "Book of Jacob 5:13-20?"
The name translated "James" in English is the name "Jacob" in Hebrew, so many Sacred Names groups and some Messianics also will call the book of James the Book of Jacob. (Tree of Life Bible Version does this too)
Can you share about Syro Malabar Catholic Diocese of Great Britain and Wales. It seems that they are passionate practitioners of faith.
Oh boy
This heresy is getting out of hand.
I am (ethnically) Jewish, and in my studies, Jews NEVER say the name of God, they use an indirect way of referring to God, usually A'-Doh- nai. It is considered so holy there are about 100 names to indirectly refer to God, and only use Adonai in prayer.
The church followed with this practice. Nobody ever called Him by the Tetragrammaton until after the reformation, because ancient tradition held that you weren’t supposed to do that
Some do say the name, some don't.
There are over 100 names to use instead. Even in writing it is almost always to written as yy( in Hebrew) it is too holy to spell the indirect name. Anyone in who says otherwise is just making it up!
Karaite jews and Nazarene jews say his name. Not Orthodox Jews. ..
why turn yourself into another cult when the Lord Jesus said it was not by his name that we are saved, but by the fact that he would take our sin into his body and become like a serpent on the cross. John 3:14-15 If we believe this we have eternal life, not if we believe in a Jewish name, which by the way the man who wrote most of the New Testament was a Jewish Rabbi who refused to use this Jewish name that this cult is over emphasizing. .
When I read the first sentence in the mission statement, I had to roll my eyes. I heard the same patter from the Churches of Christ/Restoration Movement, which I grew up in. It's fun to take a step back and compare and contrast.
Oh, look, someone else vomited up a false religion because he wasn't as important in the church he left as he thought he should be. All of the differences from sound doctrine are carefully crafted to make congregants fear they're turning their back on the Lord if ever they leave.
Typical cult.
Sound a lot like the people trying to lead the Church of Galatia astray.
Endless splits. These folks sound like gnostics.
They look more like a Messianic/Hebrew form of the Jehovah's Witnesess to me.