@@danielmaher964 SAD and JW do not disagree about everything. What they have in common is that both believe in the soul sleep and that Michael the archangel and Jesus Christ are the same person.
@@SGOV86 No, SDA don’t believe Jesus is a created being, while JW do. SDA believe that Micheal is just another name for Jesus the Eternal God, because archangel means : who is above all angels.
@Azyo62 JW indeed do believe that Jesus is a created being but that that being is Michael the archangel. To them Michael is just another name for Jesus but that He is a created being.
My boss is a JW; we have discussed the differences in our religions and all I can do is pray for her to truly turn to the Lord Jesus Christ before it’s too late.
“If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed." James 1:5-6
I grew up in the Seventh-Day Adventist denomination- Attending church on Saturday, attending private Adventist schools from K-12, and even the hospital system in the south- AdventHealth is run by the SDA church. My mother's side of the family is Adventist and she raised my brother and I as such. I really want to stress that there is a WIDE spectrum of SDA followers. When you are immersed in the denomination as I was, you will see both- hardcore, "Ellen White believing, no alcohol, vegitarian/vegan, you must observe the Sabbath by doing absolutely nothing and attend church or it is a sin" type SDAs. But those individuals have become quite far and few in between. Most will look upon those individuals as "old fashioned". Most realistic Adventists will tell you that the lifestyle choices (abstaining from alcohol/(unclean) meat) are exactly that- lifestyle choices. The health and wellness ideas in Adventist communities can also be attributed to the association with the AdventHealth medical system and Loma Linda University in California Ellen White was one of the founders- yes. But many of her writings and opinions get the side-eye from a lot of Adventists these days. She is not as heavily emphasized as she might once have been. In Adventist private schools from K-12, the majority of other students around me ate meat (usually "clean" meats- but I digress.) In religion classes, we learned about Ellen White as our founder who was inspired by God, but she usually wasn't all that emphasized here either. Most of the time emphasis was placed on teachings of the bible. We did routinely learn about the history behind how the Sababth was changed from Saturday to Sunday and we covered a lot of church history. But the majority of the things we were taught and learned about align with what many other Christian denominations believe today. I personally had no issues walking into a Baptist or NonDenominational church in my adult life and adapting nicely. There are a few of my beliefs from being SDA that I hold onto, but most things are irrelevant compared to the "core" things Christian denominations believe in. I was always appalled at SDA's being compared to the JW organization when really they are nothing alike! Thank you for making these comparison videos to shed light on the details.
my big issue with SDA is the Sabbath day worship only. Where I studied with SDA, they were hardcore, you worship the beast and go to hell if you attend church on Sunday. I've gone to several seminaries since then and read the bible from cover to cover for Nth number of times, and no where does it say what they claim. Paul says that keeping the law does NOT save. To me, keeping the Sabbath is the same is keeping the law. Second is that Jesus re-enforced all the laws except for the Sabbath. Third, is that no where does it say by Paul or anyone else that going to church on Sunday (or any other day) was a sin. What is your perspective of that? why do they teach that? I have noticed that White is not seen as she had been in the past. I learned that her writings were above the bible. SDA does teach truth, but it's the false prophecies, and the false teachings (Sabbath worship, hell not eternal) that turned me off to SDA. Not sure if they still believe that way. (just to note: I have no issue with SDA people or anyone else. I have JW friends, Islam friends, atheist friends. It's the beliefs itself that I question to why they teach in relation to what the bible states.)
@@BiblicalTeachings Yes, the Saturday worship is one of the big things they do focus on quite a bit as it is one of the things Adventists are most known for. Often Adventist feel the need to defend Saturday worship because of their contrasting view from most Christian denominations. In our studies in school, I remember diving in quite deep into the why and how the Sabbath was changed from Saturday to Sunday throughout church history. Adventists view keeping the Sabbath as one of the 10 commandments which is still highly regarded and followed by most Christians today. If you asked an Adventist- that would probably be one of the first things they'd tell you hence why many consider it a sin. As for Sunday worship being considered "mark of the beast" it seems to be a difference of opinion regardless of what the church may/may not teach. So while Sabbath keeping is emphasized quite a bit, at it's very core, Adventists do teach that it is ONLY the belief and acceptance of Jesus Christ as the way to salvation.
@@9447mma maybe because of the history where they started thats why some are confused but I agree both are different and few of teachings are almost the same intrepretation. The difference JW emphasized there leader is Jesus not the founder unlike some SDA worshiped or idolized Ellen White.
@@9447mma do SDA uphold moral values im in doubt unlike with JW i seen them how they really live a righteous life. I only knew 2 SDA and they helped understand some of its teachings but im not totally convinced yet. Thats why im searching for the truest church.
@@honeyyu1474 You are absolutely correct. The SDA church had a wild beginning to say the least. The denomination was literally born from church leaders being incorrect about the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. Even when the bible says "the day and hour are unknown". But when you sit down and analyze similarities and differences of core Christian beliefs and what the SDA church teaches TODAY- Salvation, Jesus Christ, the Trinity, baptism.... many of these essential things are exactly the same as other denominations.
Definitely a lot of doctrines of man with the church leadership trying hard to impose them onto the Bible. The JWs organization went as far as mistranslating their Bible to force the name Jehovah into the New Testament where it didn't appear in the Greek.
If you keep watching more of this channel's (apparently very well researched) videos, you'll see a huge variety of beliefs and practices among various branches of Christianity. These two groups are just more of it.
My late brother in law left that cult and was shunned. His daughter cut him from her life and did not speak to him for years. She finally went to the hospital to see him when he was on his deathbed unconscious.
I remember reading the Seventh Day Adventist's book and while the first half was fine, the moment they got to William Miller it totally fell off. He predicted Christ's return 3 times and after all of them failed, he just changed the meaning to say that Christ was spritually returning and it happened invisibly so that is why nobody knew. A total joke of a religion
We are different in many ways, but somewhat similar in other ways, especially when it comes to believing in prophetic time itself. Still, we were there first 😁
A very speedy but quite accurate analysis of Jehovah's Witnesses. I might clarify; The New World Translation is a favored translation JWs use, but we readily use other translations as can be seen in JWs literature and even the JW ap, which offers other translations than the NWT. Plus many of the 200 plus lands JWs are in speak languages where the NWT doesn't exist, and thus will use translations common in those languages.
I love these facts of the faith, as an Adventist would agree, I can't say all but most of the facts but it really fails to comprehend why we understand this Bible what we believe. In saying this, it is important to investigate for themselves, study the Bible and find the church that closely represent the Bible truths.
Would you consider covering the Apostolic Johannite Church? It’s kind of an interesting neo-gnostic/primitive gnostic Christian denomination I think. Could use your informative investigating! Thank you.
7th Day Adventist organization seems to have refined some of their doctrinal stances [ to become more “mainstream “]. (( Assistant Chaplain at a prison I was at , was “7th Day Adventist- very strictly. Head Chaplain was Southern Baptist. I also went through the 5 volume set commentary that Assistant Chaplain provided.)) Seems much has changed. ✝️🙏
@@devinbuettgenbach2941 I am continually disappointed at how many people are willing to not only speak but also condemn when they don't understand. "Mormonism" isn't much of anything. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is unrelated to anything you mentioned.
Very good and objective analysis. My main takeaway here is that some "authoritative" human individual came up with the specific theological positions of both of these groups. I personally believe that no Christian should regard anyone other than Christ as truly an "authoritative teacher" (Mathew 23:10). All believers should be diligent students of Scripture on their own and they should be slow to conclude what is the correct interpretation of Scripture on all controversial matters.
But one could argue that rejection of the original Church and the breaking away to form Protestantism is exactly what led to these vast multitude of these " authoratative" individuals in all the kinds of churches that evolved...everyone being "led by the Spirit" when they read Scripture, believing what they want...is the Holy Spirit telling everyone something different?
Check out “Answering Adventism” he talks about how the Adventism has a very different world view. Also their word definitions have different meaning like Godpel, Trinity and so on.
They really got everything down to a science. And which one is right? Er, both of them are... about everything! If Matthew and Luke can both be true (just one example), no amount of disagreement matters.
So many different denominations, including a significant number that claim to be the one, true church and the only faithful descendent of Jesus's ministry.
In the past i watched 3 Angels Broadcasting Network which is a SDA channel. It was on broadcast TV near me (meaning i didn't need cable to watch it). Almost every time i tuned in either a vegetarian cooking show or some prophesy conference was playing. There were at least 4 different guys who preached the separate prophesy conferences. I remember one of them asking what if Jesus gets it wrong during the particular judgment, that a person could be sent to hell when they should have gone to heaven. "Sorry Joe!" I think that the guy was arguing against the idea of a particular judgment and in favor of the general judgment. That seems like a faulty view of Jesus Christ. If Jesus is both God and human, how could his judgment of a person's soul be inaccurate?
And another thing I did was get some SDA literature in the mail from 3ABN TV shows. The longest chapter by far in one of the books I got taught the idea that there's a temple in heaven just like Solomon's temple in the Old Testament. They taught that in 1844 Jesus went into the holy of holies in the heavenly temple to atone for the sins of the world. I'm pretty sure it taught the typology of the whole Old Testament Jewish animal sacrifice system as being symbolic of Jesus. I think that was the SDA way of explaining why their 1844 return of Christ prophesy failed. I ended up donating the SDA literature to a local St Vincent de Paul charity in the late 1990s. I kind of wish I could find the name of the SDA org that wrote and distributed it, though. Also the name of the guy I mentioned in the previous comment.
@@rhondawhite1396 I studied at a SDA school years ago. Some of the things they taught didn't seem right. I looked up scriptures and compared to what they taught. Doesn't match up. I got into a debate with one of the SDA members regarding the Greek word for 'eternal'. I had just finished my 2nd year of Greek at another school. They were twisting things to fit their theology. SDA believes that people who worship on Sunday are of the beast and will go to hell (which is, according to them, not eternal). But Paul teaches that keeping the law does not save. We are saved through Jesus and not by keeping the law. I ended up leaving the school. The only thing that I learned was how heretical SDA was.
The commenter misquoted the evangelist. What the commenter's motive for doing this might be, I could only guess. No SDA, least of all a seminary-trained pastor, believes that the one true and righteous judge could "get it wrong". See: 2 Timothy 4:8: Jesus Christ is known as "the righteous judge" John 5:30: Jesus states that he judges fairly and justly because he seeks the will of God John 5:22-23: Jesus has been given the authority to judge and will enact judgment according to his wisdom and righteousness. Truth is found in the Bible, not online! :@@danielmaher964
SDA have a pre history of creation written by ellen white. They believe in three immortals and one is stronger than the other two. This is “the godhead”.
SDA is not a religion you can superficially examine; its definitions, using the same words as mainline Christianity, are skewed, twisted, and stretched so as to be completely different. Two resources would be useful if you have not used them--the most recent edition of "Seventh-Day Adventists Believe" (2018), and content from both Academy Apolgia and Former Adventist (both on YT). Without hearing them out, you have not done your homework.
@BiblicalTeachings I believe in One God because Judaism dont believe in Trinity. I do agree The Bible shoudnt be altered. And whats confusing we need to be baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and of the Holy Spirit Mt28:18-20 I dont believe in speaking tongue and I believe there be no prophet after Jesus because he represents the fullness of God's divine revelation. My background is a JW and I do agree in some of SDA teachings. So im really searching for truest church.
@@honeyyu1474 why do you think so many denominations with history, academics theologians and philosophers, and scholars still dogmatically teach the Trinity explicitly?
@@thomasthellamas9886 if theres a 1God and 3 headship why Jesus just seated in the right hand of God? And after the millineum rulership of Jesus why does he needs to return all the authority to God the Father?
I'll attend a Seventh-day Adventist Service before a Jehovah's Witnesses Service. Not fond of Ellen White veneration and she received her original ideas from another - a male. I found only NKJV in SDA. Sunday Worship was instituted by the Roman Church. Also, the removal the Jewish Traditional Observances - starting with the Passover and the Lunar Calander. I personally like SDA, even though they focus on Vegetarianism & Saturday Sabbath. Always enjoy Ready to Harvest. God Bless. Thank you.
False. You can read the Bible and writings of the early Christians. St. Matthew 22:37-40. Romans 7:7-9; 10:4. Galatians 3:23-25; 6:2. Ephesians 2:15. St. Ignatius to Magnesians 8:1. St. Justin Martyr's Dialogue with Trypho 11; 18. St. Irenaeus Against Heresies 4:13. Tertullian Against Marcion 4:1. Origen's Homily 12 on Genesis. Christians worshipped on Sunday. Acts 20:7. 1 Corinthians 16:2. Didache 14:1. St. Ignatius to Magnesians 9. Barnabas 15:9. St. Justin Martyr's First Apology 67. Tertullian's Apology 16.
Since the "Roman Church" is actually the Catholic Church and was established by Jesus you are correct. The Catholic Church worships on the Lord's day. Jesus was the "Lamb of God" who rose on the third day. Saturday remains the Sabbath
@theKnightsofGod no, that isnt what a cult is. That is just a difference of opinion. You will find that all christian denominations would fit the definition of a cult, especially roman catholicism.
@astutik8909 difference of opinion... your answer seems to be steeped with a sense of relativism that is common in Western culture. If the sky is blue and we affirm it, someone later comes along and say the sky is green and he claims we said it some odd years ago, that by definition isn't an opinion but a claim to a historic truth. And we can examine whether that is so. If, for example, the Bible teaches Jesus is God, the writings of the early church also affirms this and someone denies it, then it's their word vs what is in scripture. It's more than an opinion. And we can find out more about it. We are talking a out core essentials of the faith. And I wouldn't disagree with you on the RCC lol
@@rdalbright1Christians who made up their own religions need to find the true faith. These denominations are just divisive and sad. Christians should be united, not separated. 🙏
This video is normal for the channel, but with the religions mentioned we're sure to see a bunch of people jump in to tell others that they're "not Christian" or part of a "cult". Ironically, it will come from people who profess to be Christians themselves.
The war movie, Hacksaw Ridge, is a true story (a story about which I had done some study before the movie was made). The movie not only makes a powerful statement about war in general and WWII specifically, it coronicles the role of one Seventh-day Adventist in WWII.
@@SGOV86 Every church that is not ecumenical and not like the others, but grows too big they call them cult... But literally every church has problematic doctrines according to someone else... So everyone can be cult in the eyes of someone else who doesn't think the same way... But when it comes about which day to observe, I do think SDA is right!
Here a non trinitarian Seventh Day adventist👋. I'm still waiting for your video about non trinitarian adventism :D. Now I'm gonna watch this video, it looks interesting :).
Unfortulanely you most probably won't get a video on non-Trinitarian SDAs for one simple reason: they have not produced truly rivaling churches, and are simply disorganized on the outskirts of the SDA Church itself. You have only independent ministries and local offshoot churches. The only church worthy of mentioning at all would be the Creation Seventh-day Adventist Church, which is non-Trinitarian, "sacred name" and keeping Jewish feasts and new moons, and operates in North America, Australia, and some countries in Africa. I didn't find their membership numbers though.
whilst i disagree with them on most things, i do have to respect both of these groups for their emphasis on pacifism and JWs especially for their objections to nationalism. especially in the modern age, it’s very important to be on guard against any attempts to artificially separate us from each other.
I don't think I can consider myself Adventist anymore. There are problematic doctrines that I don't see in the Bible at all. E. Orthodoxy seems to be the true Church.
How boring is it to study all this nonsense? I appreciate that you do it but damn this seems really not that interesting. I mean for real are you like a PHD student in religious denominations??? Why would you do this if not for that. All these crazy differences between denominations and whether a denomination is growing or shrinking is interesting but wildly dry. Lol. All that being said, I still watch a lot of your videos so I do appreciate all the hard work your doing. I'd say bless your heart but I'm not from the south and I'm mostly an Athiest. Lol.
Satan is the greatest deceiver masquerading at times as an angel of light, 2 Corinthians 11:14. So being aware of what a particular denomination believes and teaches is important. My question to you is, "Do you fear God, and if not what waits for you after the death of the physical body? Jesus Christ bless you all!
what? that's literally the purpose of this channel. I'm agnostic but watch it cuz i'm curious and want to know what people believe. You are aware that this guy is also a christian himself.
SDA and JW: disagree about everything
World: "so you're the same"
@@danielmaher964 SAD and JW do not disagree about everything. What they have in common is that both believe in the soul sleep and that Michael the archangel and Jesus Christ are the same person.
@@SGOV86
No, SDA don’t believe Jesus is a created being, while JW do.
SDA believe that Micheal is just another name for Jesus the Eternal God, because archangel means : who is above all angels.
@Azyo62 JW indeed do believe that Jesus is a created being but that that being is Michael the archangel. To them Michael is just another name for Jesus but that He is a created being.
@@SGOV86
Yes, but SDA’s don’t believe he is a created being. He is the eternal God.
@Azyo62 of that I am aware. I am a former SDA. I've got baptized in a SDA church many years ago.
The JW found that many of their positions were contradicted by the Bible. So they wrote their own version of the Bible.
Do you have a verse we can compare?
@@macdavid9986 Check out Jn1:1 "the Word was God" vs "the Word as a god".
@@macdavid9986Genesis 1:1-2, Zechariah 12:10, John 1:1, John 14:10, Colossians 1:15-17, Hebrews 1:6, Hebrews 1:8 these are a few
@@macdavid9986John 1 is the easiest answer to this
@@macdavid9986John 1:1 for example. Adding an “a” at the very end to distinguish Christ from God.
My boss is a JW; we have discussed the differences in our religions and all I can do is pray for her to truly turn to the Lord Jesus Christ before it’s too late.
Really biting my tongue. Lol. Thanks for delivering this information in a straightforward, unbiased way. As always
"Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you" 🙏
Ephesians 4 : 32
@@adlad75
If any man or angel preaches a gospel contrary to the one we have taught, then let him be anathema.
“If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed." James 1:5-6
This is one of the most influential scriptural passages of all time for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Day Saints
Thank you for another great video filled with so much information on the SDA and JW denominations.
I really, really enjoyed the compare/contrast video on these two organizations. Thank you.
I grew up in the Seventh-Day Adventist denomination- Attending church on Saturday, attending private Adventist schools from K-12, and even the hospital system in the south- AdventHealth is run by the SDA church. My mother's side of the family is Adventist and she raised my brother and I as such.
I really want to stress that there is a WIDE spectrum of SDA followers. When you are immersed in the denomination as I was, you will see both- hardcore, "Ellen White believing, no alcohol, vegitarian/vegan, you must observe the Sabbath by doing absolutely nothing and attend church or it is a sin" type SDAs. But those individuals have become quite far and few in between. Most will look upon those individuals as "old fashioned".
Most realistic Adventists will tell you that the lifestyle choices (abstaining from alcohol/(unclean) meat) are exactly that- lifestyle choices. The health and wellness ideas in Adventist communities can also be attributed to the association with the AdventHealth medical system and Loma Linda University in California
Ellen White was one of the founders- yes. But many of her writings and opinions get the side-eye from a lot of Adventists these days. She is not as heavily emphasized as she might once have been.
In Adventist private schools from K-12, the majority of other students around me ate meat (usually "clean" meats- but I digress.) In religion classes, we learned about Ellen White as our founder who was inspired by God, but she usually wasn't all that emphasized here either. Most of the time emphasis was placed on teachings of the bible. We did routinely learn about the history behind how the Sababth was changed from Saturday to Sunday and we covered a lot of church history. But the majority of the things we were taught and learned about align with what many other Christian denominations believe today.
I personally had no issues walking into a Baptist or NonDenominational church in my adult life and adapting nicely. There are a few of my beliefs from being SDA that I hold onto, but most things are irrelevant compared to the "core" things Christian denominations believe in. I was always appalled at SDA's being compared to the JW organization when really they are nothing alike!
Thank you for making these comparison videos to shed light on the details.
my big issue with SDA is the Sabbath day worship only. Where I studied with SDA, they were hardcore, you worship the beast and go to hell if you attend church on Sunday. I've gone to several seminaries since then and read the bible from cover to cover for Nth number of times, and no where does it say what they claim. Paul says that keeping the law does NOT save. To me, keeping the Sabbath is the same is keeping the law. Second is that Jesus re-enforced all the laws except for the Sabbath. Third, is that no where does it say by Paul or anyone else that going to church on Sunday (or any other day) was a sin. What is your perspective of that? why do they teach that? I have noticed that White is not seen as she had been in the past. I learned that her writings were above the bible. SDA does teach truth, but it's the false prophecies, and the false teachings (Sabbath worship, hell not eternal) that turned me off to SDA. Not sure if they still believe that way.
(just to note: I have no issue with SDA people or anyone else. I have JW friends, Islam friends, atheist friends. It's the beliefs itself that I question to why they teach in relation to what the bible states.)
@@BiblicalTeachings Yes, the Saturday worship is one of the big things they do focus on quite a bit as it is one of the things Adventists are most known for. Often Adventist feel the need to defend Saturday worship because of their contrasting view from most Christian denominations. In our studies in school, I remember diving in quite deep into the why and how the Sabbath was changed from Saturday to Sunday throughout church history. Adventists view keeping the Sabbath as one of the 10 commandments which is still highly regarded and followed by most Christians today. If you asked an Adventist- that would probably be one of the first things they'd tell you hence why many consider it a sin.
As for Sunday worship being considered "mark of the beast" it seems to be a difference of opinion regardless of what the church may/may not teach.
So while Sabbath keeping is emphasized quite a bit, at it's very core, Adventists do teach that it is ONLY the belief and acceptance of Jesus Christ as the way to salvation.
@@9447mma maybe because of the history where they started thats why some are confused but I agree both are different and few of teachings are almost the same intrepretation. The difference JW emphasized there leader is Jesus not the founder unlike some SDA worshiped or idolized Ellen White.
@@9447mma do SDA uphold moral values im in doubt unlike with JW i seen them how they really live a righteous life. I only knew 2 SDA and they helped understand some of its teachings but im not totally convinced yet. Thats why im searching for the truest church.
@@honeyyu1474 You are absolutely correct. The SDA church had a wild beginning to say the least. The denomination was literally born from church leaders being incorrect about the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. Even when the bible says "the day and hour are unknown".
But when you sit down and analyze similarities and differences of core Christian beliefs and what the SDA church teaches TODAY- Salvation, Jesus Christ, the Trinity, baptism.... many of these essential things are exactly the same as other denominations.
Wow, no idea some denominations could be so confused.
Right keeping the commandments out of love is cult worship.just Google who changed Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday.
Definitely a lot of doctrines of man with the church leadership trying hard to impose them onto the Bible. The JWs organization went as far as mistranslating their Bible to force the name Jehovah into the New Testament where it didn't appear in the Greek.
@@Phillip-n3g what day did Jesus rise from the dead?
@@thomasthellamas9886what scripture tells us we must celebrate this day ?
If you keep watching more of this channel's (apparently very well researched) videos, you'll see a huge variety of beliefs and practices among various branches of Christianity. These two groups are just more of it.
The Jehovah's Witness was the cause of the end of my brother's marriage.
So sad.
My late brother in law left that cult and was shunned. His daughter cut him from her life and did not speak to him for years. She finally went to the hospital to see him when he was on his deathbed unconscious.
Ditto.
@@rogermetzger7335 so sad , SDA people are not half as fanitical as the JW.
Finally, the updated SDA logo Kudos! Love your videos :D
I didn't even know it was updated
@Jfernandez02 in the video about the SDA, you can see the old logo (golden? And green). The new one is either black or white.
Even some SDA doctrines sound strange, Half of the once of JW are both Weird and even bad! On 95% of the time I am on the SDA side...
Bro u feeding my interest in cults/destructive groups I love it 🎉
Thanks for a very clear and concise commentary on the similarities and differences between these two groups (denominations).
I remember reading the Seventh Day Adventist's book and while the first half was fine, the moment they got to William Miller it totally fell off. He predicted Christ's return 3 times and after all of them failed, he just changed the meaning to say that Christ was spritually returning and it happened invisibly so that is why nobody knew. A total joke of a religion
"(...) test everything; hold fast what is good."
(1 Thess 5:21)
You can find some good things and some wrong / bad things in every denomination.
@@ZuerstJesus the fact that these guys objectively failed to predict jesus' return is reason enough to not follow them
@@thetraditionalist That's right but you can although listen to their statements and think about it.
@@ZuerstJesus I read their book and as I said it just can not be right in my eyes
@ OK, I understand 👍
Seems like people get confused between the two... But they are Very Very different... As an SDA i feel like we are closer to Nazarene
@@jordangrussling801 Nazarenes don't follow the teaching of a cultic false prophetess.
We are different in many ways, but somewhat similar in other ways, especially when it comes to believing in prophetic time itself. Still, we were there first 😁
A very speedy but quite accurate analysis of Jehovah's Witnesses. I might clarify; The New World Translation is a favored translation JWs use, but we readily use other translations as can be seen in JWs literature and even the JW ap, which offers other translations than the NWT. Plus many of the 200 plus lands JWs are in speak languages where the NWT doesn't exist, and thus will use translations common in those languages.
I love these facts of the faith, as an Adventist would agree, I can't say all but most of the facts but it really fails to comprehend why we understand this Bible what we believe. In saying this, it is important to investigate for themselves, study the Bible and find the church that closely represent the Bible truths.
Thank you for these videos!
Would you consider covering the Apostolic Johannite Church? It’s kind of an interesting neo-gnostic/primitive gnostic Christian denomination I think. Could use your informative investigating! Thank you.
7th Day Adventist organization seems to have refined some of their doctrinal stances [ to become more “mainstream “].
(( Assistant Chaplain at a prison I was at , was “7th Day Adventist- very strictly. Head Chaplain was Southern Baptist.
I also went through the 5 volume set commentary that Assistant Chaplain provided.))
Seems much has changed.
✝️🙏
Mormon vs Iglesia Ni Christo
The same lie just repackaged in a new wrapping, mormonism of course being the original wrapping of an ancient lie.
@@devinbuettgenbach2941 I like to call Islam is the original Mormonism
@@thomasthellamas9886so islam for hwite people?
@@devinbuettgenbach2941 I am continually disappointed at how many people are willing to not only speak but also condemn when they don't understand. "Mormonism" isn't much of anything. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is unrelated to anything you mentioned.
@@thomasthellamas9886 Islam is unconnected to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Very good and objective analysis. My main takeaway here is that some "authoritative" human individual came up with the specific theological positions of both of these groups. I personally believe that no Christian should regard anyone other than Christ as truly an "authoritative teacher" (Mathew 23:10). All believers should be diligent students of Scripture on their own and they should be slow to conclude what is the correct interpretation of Scripture on all controversial matters.
But one could argue that rejection of the original Church and the breaking away to form Protestantism is exactly what led to these vast multitude of these
" authoratative" individuals in all the kinds of churches that evolved...everyone being "led by the Spirit" when they read Scripture, believing what they want...is the Holy Spirit telling everyone something different?
JW’s always get the little digs in on other groups.
Check out “Answering Adventism” he talks about how the Adventism has a very different world view. Also their word definitions have different meaning like Godpel, Trinity and so on.
They really got everything down to a science.
And which one is right?
Er, both of them are... about everything!
If Matthew and Luke can both be true (just one example), no amount of disagreement matters.
At this point, I think most of us all agree JWs are not Christian.
So many different denominations, including a significant number that claim to be the one, true church and the only faithful descendent of Jesus's ministry.
Just as Catholics say they are the 'one true church'😂
Modernist Ahhh comment 💀
Is it really fair to compare any type of Christian to a Jehovah's Witness? Id rather have a Mormon knock on my door.
@@benjaminerickson225 Sure, they come from the same movement and did the same things...false prophecies and all.
@marcodesalud7034 Mormons aren't killjoys
They came out of the same movement. It's like comparing the Mormons and the "community of Christ"
In the past i watched 3 Angels Broadcasting Network which is a SDA channel. It was on broadcast TV near me (meaning i didn't need cable to watch it). Almost every time i tuned in either a vegetarian cooking show or some prophesy conference was playing. There were at least 4 different guys who preached the separate prophesy conferences. I remember one of them asking what if Jesus gets it wrong during the particular judgment, that a person could be sent to hell when they should have gone to heaven. "Sorry Joe!" I think that the guy was arguing against the idea of a particular judgment and in favor of the general judgment. That seems like a faulty view of Jesus Christ. If Jesus is both God and human, how could his judgment of a person's soul be inaccurate?
And another thing I did was get some SDA literature in the mail from 3ABN TV shows. The longest chapter by far in one of the books I got taught the idea that there's a temple in heaven just like Solomon's temple in the Old Testament. They taught that in 1844 Jesus went into the holy of holies in the heavenly temple to atone for the sins of the world. I'm pretty sure it taught the typology of the whole Old Testament Jewish animal sacrifice system as being symbolic of Jesus. I think that was the SDA way of explaining why their 1844 return of Christ prophesy failed.
I ended up donating the SDA literature to a local St Vincent de Paul charity in the late 1990s. I kind of wish I could find the name of the SDA org that wrote and distributed it, though. Also the name of the guy I mentioned in the previous comment.
So he thought Jesus might actually be wrong in the judgment?
@@rhondawhite1396 I studied at a SDA school years ago. Some of the things they taught didn't seem right. I looked up scriptures and compared to what they taught. Doesn't match up. I got into a debate with one of the SDA members regarding the Greek word for 'eternal'. I had just finished my 2nd year of Greek at another school. They were twisting things to fit their theology. SDA believes that people who worship on Sunday are of the beast and will go to hell (which is, according to them, not eternal). But Paul teaches that keeping the law does not save. We are saved through Jesus and not by keeping the law. I ended up leaving the school. The only thing that I learned was how heretical SDA was.
The commenter misquoted the evangelist. What the commenter's motive for doing this might be, I could only guess. No SDA, least of all a seminary-trained pastor, believes that the one true and righteous judge could "get it wrong".
See:
2 Timothy 4:8: Jesus Christ is known as "the righteous judge"
John 5:30: Jesus states that he judges fairly and justly because he seeks the will of God
John 5:22-23: Jesus has been given the authority to judge and will enact judgment according to his wisdom and righteousness.
Truth is found in the Bible, not online!
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Two sides of the same Dispensationalist coin.
They are both riding on the theological short bus.
SDA have a pre history of creation written by ellen white. They believe in three immortals and one is stronger than the other two. This is “the godhead”.
The SDA is just the JW, but it's less annoying and more biblically sound
Cult-lite and MegaCult
SDA is not a religion you can superficially examine; its definitions, using the same words as mainline Christianity, are skewed, twisted, and stretched so as to be completely different. Two resources would be useful if you have not used them--the most recent edition of "Seventh-Day Adventists Believe" (2018), and content from both Academy Apolgia and Former Adventist (both on YT). Without hearing them out, you have not done your homework.
Jesus is the Lord of Sabbath, it means he has the authority to abolished it, he is not the lord of Sabbath keepers,
Watchtower name and symbol is a nod to the Adventist Movement
Is there a religion better than SDA and JW?
the teachings of Jesus. Don't need a label in order to believe and follow Jesus.
@BiblicalTeachings I believe in One God because Judaism dont believe in Trinity.
I do agree The Bible shoudnt be altered.
And whats confusing we need to be baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and of the Holy Spirit Mt28:18-20
I dont believe in speaking tongue and I believe there be no prophet after Jesus because he represents the fullness of God's divine revelation.
My background is a JW and I do agree in some of SDA teachings. So im really searching for truest church.
@@honeyyu1474 why do you think so many denominations with history, academics theologians and philosophers, and scholars still dogmatically teach the Trinity explicitly?
@thomasthellamas9886 because in history in order to convert pagans to Christianity they need to incorporate it.
@@thomasthellamas9886 if theres a 1God and 3 headship why Jesus just seated in the right hand of God? And after the millineum rulership of Jesus why does he needs to return all the authority to God the Father?
I'll attend a Seventh-day Adventist Service before a Jehovah's Witnesses Service. Not fond of Ellen White veneration and she received her original ideas from another - a male. I found only NKJV in SDA. Sunday Worship was instituted by the Roman Church. Also, the removal the Jewish Traditional Observances - starting with the Passover and the Lunar Calander. I personally like SDA, even though they focus on Vegetarianism & Saturday Sabbath. Always enjoy Ready to Harvest. God Bless. Thank you.
@@benjaminrush4443 Sunday worship was not instituted by the Roman Church.
False. You can read the Bible and writings of the early Christians. St. Matthew 22:37-40. Romans 7:7-9; 10:4. Galatians 3:23-25; 6:2. Ephesians 2:15. St. Ignatius to Magnesians 8:1. St. Justin Martyr's Dialogue with Trypho 11; 18. St. Irenaeus Against Heresies 4:13. Tertullian Against Marcion 4:1. Origen's Homily 12 on Genesis.
Christians worshipped on Sunday. Acts 20:7. 1 Corinthians 16:2. Didache 14:1. St. Ignatius to Magnesians 9. Barnabas 15:9. St. Justin Martyr's First Apology 67. Tertullian's Apology 16.
@@GreatTrollgerI second this. Paul did worship service on the first day of the week in the New Testament! Amen!
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Since the "Roman Church" is actually the Catholic Church and was established by Jesus you are correct. The Catholic Church worships on the Lord's day. Jesus was the "Lamb of God" who rose on the third day. Saturday remains the Sabbath
You should do one between LDS & JW
These two are actually cults not denominations but good information nonetheless.
What is your definition of a cult?
@astutik8909 one definition would be a group of people that teach against historic Christian beliefs
@theKnightsofGod no, that isnt what a cult is. That is just a difference of opinion.
You will find that all christian denominations would fit the definition of a cult, especially roman catholicism.
@astutik8909 difference of opinion... your answer seems to be steeped with a sense of relativism that is common in Western culture.
If the sky is blue and we affirm it, someone later comes along and say the sky is green and he claims we said it some odd years ago, that by definition isn't an opinion but a claim to a historic truth. And we can examine whether that is so.
If, for example, the Bible teaches Jesus is God, the writings of the early church also affirms this and someone denies it, then it's their word vs what is in scripture.
It's more than an opinion. And we can find out more about it. We are talking a out core essentials of the faith.
And I wouldn't disagree with you on the RCC lol
Both are heretical. However, JW's take the heretical to the next level and beyond.
Neither are Christian per se. But the SDA is less not Christian than the JWs are
You are not to judge who is Christian and who is not.
@@rdalbright1Christians who made up their own religions need to find the true faith. These denominations are just divisive and sad.
Christians should be united, not separated. 🙏
This video is normal for the channel, but with the religions mentioned we're sure to see a bunch of people jump in to tell others that they're "not Christian" or part of a "cult". Ironically, it will come from people who profess to be Christians themselves.
The war movie, Hacksaw Ridge, is a true story (a story about which I had done some study before the movie was made). The movie not only makes a powerful statement about war in general and WWII specifically, it coronicles the role of one Seventh-day Adventist in WWII.
I have to study this again like at least seven More times and take notes
One cult vs another cult.
I do not understand why the SDA church is considered a cult.
@@SGOV86because Sunday worshipers don't follow the 4th commandant and hate anyone who does.
@@SGOV86because they keep Saturday Sabbath like JESUS.google who changed Saturday from sat to Sunday.
@@SGOV86 because its origin is in 19th century millennialism that was prone heretical teachings and false predictions of Christ's Second Coming.
@@SGOV86 Every church that is not ecumenical and not like the others, but grows too big they call them cult... But literally every church has problematic doctrines according to someone else... So everyone can be cult in the eyes of someone else who doesn't think the same way... But when it comes about which day to observe, I do think SDA is right!
Here a non trinitarian Seventh Day adventist👋. I'm still waiting for your video about non trinitarian adventism :D.
Now I'm gonna watch this video, it looks interesting :).
Non-Trinitarian SDA are not true SDAs.
Whatever your view on the trinity doctrine, Jesus created you and loves you
Unfortulanely you most probably won't get a video on non-Trinitarian SDAs for one simple reason: they have not produced truly rivaling churches, and are simply disorganized on the outskirts of the SDA Church itself. You have only independent ministries and local offshoot churches. The only church worthy of mentioning at all would be the Creation Seventh-day Adventist Church, which is non-Trinitarian, "sacred name" and keeping Jewish feasts and new moons, and operates in North America, Australia, and some countries in Africa. I didn't find their membership numbers though.
You’re NOT an SDA if you don’t believe in the trinity.
@@rdalbright1 If you say..
whilst i disagree with them on most things, i do have to respect both of these groups for their emphasis on pacifism and JWs especially for their objections to nationalism. especially in the modern age, it’s very important to be on guard against any attempts to artificially separate us from each other.
We are better off without organizations and religions
Huh, jesus being Michael honestly makes sense. Nice
Many people and denominations believe\teach Jesus and Michael are one and the same; ua-cam.com/video/EHqhmJPT9k8/v-deo.htmlsi=xJS_mRZ8O8sSIixM
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As much as I enjoy old UA-cam, I have no idea how this 'tradition' still endures. 😲🤷😂
@@CptCascadia you know what the bible says. The first will be the last....
I don't think I can consider myself Adventist anymore. There are problematic doctrines that I don't see in the Bible at all. E. Orthodoxy seems to be the true Church.
@@Tai182 I am currious; what are the problematic doctrines of the SDA you did not see in the bible?
How boring is it to study all this nonsense? I appreciate that you do it but damn this seems really not that interesting. I mean for real are you like a PHD student in religious denominations??? Why would you do this if not for that. All these crazy differences between denominations and whether a denomination is growing or shrinking is interesting but wildly dry. Lol.
All that being said, I still watch a lot of your videos so I do appreciate all the hard work your doing. I'd say bless your heart but I'm not from the south and I'm mostly an Athiest. Lol.
If you find this boring, nonsensical, and dry, then why do you watch it?
All his videos are similar...I find them interesting even if my beliefs are really different than the ones being discussed
Satan is the greatest deceiver masquerading at times as an angel of light, 2 Corinthians 11:14. So being aware of what a particular denomination believes and teaches is important.
My question to you is, "Do you fear God, and if not what waits for you after the death of the physical body?
Jesus Christ bless you all!
@@joeylo73 Atheism is an act of intellectual suicide...so your confession that this content bores you comes to no surprise.
what? that's literally the purpose of this channel. I'm agnostic but watch it cuz i'm curious and want to know what people believe. You are aware that this guy is also a christian himself.