Titan was a great surprise villain and a great foil for Megamind. Megamind himself is a showing for how anyone can be a hero while Hal is a reminder that anyone can be a villain. Very rare to have a movie show both of those ideas and do them this well.
I like the distinction that Hal doesn’t actually like Roxane, he likes with the idea of her. Because that feels like a good way to discern the incel that he is, from an awkward guy who’s just unlucky in dating (proper definition or not, Incel as a slang term feels more like an entitled attitude towards dating/romantic interests rather than simply a virgin guy). because no one who actually likes someone would act like this. If you like someone you can be bummed sure, but you should want them to be happy. (It’s more nuanced from this and I’m no expert, but you shouldn’t be angry at them for it, basically) All and all, cool analysis. I thought it was nice. 👍🏽
I totally agree! I think that when you get sad, it's because you didn't get something you wanted, whereas when you get mad, it's because you didn't get something you feel owed. Like, disappointment versus outrage, I guess
This was a great video-- I'd like to add that another obstacle to the idea of Hal having any redeemability is his lack of self-awareness or empathy, putting everyone in so much risk and danger. I could maybe kind of get the sense that his choice to play games in his apartment could be seen as an attempt to return to the only life he knew how to lead as a means of self-soothing, but the way he stole that stuff and it was just sitting there as though he was bored with it showed that it was kind of like he took it like a trophy to show that he could get away with it. The only way he'd have had an off-ramp is if he'd chosen to lead a simpler lifestyle like Metro Man until he wrapped his head around it all, put a lot of self-reflection in and done the mental work, and done no harm in the meantime. I'm trying to work together a villain that has a reason to focus on a particular person for her own reasons after another project of hers fails. I'm learning that making a villain is surprisingly challenging because they have to start relatively normal and then find a seemingly 'natural' progression to God knows where by thinking/doing stuff that runs so counter to what any average person would consider, but without becoming Snydly Whiplash and oversimplified. These video essays really are very helpful to analyze these characters and situations and add context.
A sense of hopelessness is a great motivator to slowly break down one's rationalization and turn it into a weapon against one's self without even becoming aware that it has happened.
I didn't particularly expect much from a video about a fictional villain other than learning about said villain, but I was so excited to learn about David Hawkin's chart of emotion! I had never heard of it before and it's so cool! It's like a different take on Maslow's hierarchy of needs. I'll definitely be using this in my further research.
@@helixsol7171 While that is the text book definition, the term has devolved into also meaning someone who believes they are entitled to sex, romance, and the status it would bring. The usage of words change over time.
@@helixsol7171 Also, even the classic definition supports the entitled viewpoint as the “involuntary” half of full phrase shifts blame away from the individual and onto some nebulous outside party.
I don't know if it's just me, but Eddie Brock from Spider-Man 3 and Hal Stewart have very similar personalities, as they are both outright vile, perverted, psychopathic, devious, spiteful, dishonorable, heartless, dishonest, and outright sadistic scumbags who are already horrible people even long before getting their powers.
Honestly Hals the interesting character between the two. Spiderman 3 seems to think that Eddie was actually done wrong in the movie and actually had a reason to hate Peter when really he didn't. Just another reason that movie was a disappointment.
That's why you have to shut down simps fast and hard, but respectfully, otherwise they start imagining things, or just stay there with hope they will eventually wear them down. Sadly, I know a lot of couples that's how it went down.
Just because you mention it, I like the fact that Metro-man is horrible at music, cause I enjoyed the thought of Metro-man reopening a personal aspect in his life and its struggles. Because you can see him playing a ukulele in the school at the beginning, so I’d think he enjoys that as a hobby of his as a kid, which probably means he dropped the hobby once he got older and/or started working as a hero. And after a tiring life that’s probably full of hollow victories, to things served to him on a silver platter because he’s superhuman, he found enjoyment in learning how to play guitar-whether it’s relearning or something new to him. He likes how challenging it is because it gives him a sense of purpose and normalcy, and once he perfects it, he’ll finally feel what true victory feels like.
This is one of my favorite movies of all time AND I NEVER NOTICED THAT!!! And your interpretation managed to improved the character even more for me, which is insane. Honestly, you made my week dude 🙌
Hal’s the type of guy who believes that the world should owe him when he’s done nothing to deserve it. Look at Roxanne, Hal is in love with him, but she wants there relationship should just be professional. Hal thinks that if he was like Metro Man than Roxy would go out with him.
My Idea of Creating a Truly Wrathful and Enraged Character is to Establish a Society that refuses to accept the Talents of the Character who feels Entitled to Praise of their Exceptional Abilities and Qualities and so afterwards the Character turns their Resentment towards Society into Pure Wrath specifically towards those who get Acknowledgement and Respect yet he Doesn’t.
It's odd, but I'd consider Hal here to be a great example of what happens when you give an incel too much power. The difference between someone who's just unlucky in dating and/or having a hard time because of their appearance and an incel is very distinct. The former doesn't think they're owed anything. Sure, there's frustration, but they understand that people can make choices. They're not entitled to affection, love, or anything else. They're a normal person at their core. An incel on the other hand, believes they are deserving of love because of some nebulous "hardship" or "difficulty" and they are resentful of the society and world at large, simply because they can't get what they believe they're owed. Give one too much power, and they'll tear everything apart out of some vindictive desire for unfounded revenge.
I just realized his name is just a combination of the two main green lanterns in DC, Hal Jordan and John Stewart. I wonder what the idea was about the choice. I don't even thini Metroman and Megamind HAD names outside of their "gig" names.
It's wild that Hal is such a perfect mirror to podcast bro/incel culture despite Megamind coming out WELL BEFORE that type of manipulative content became so mainstream. There is a SCARY amount of men that would absolutely empathize with Hal in the modern day.
Hey! Step in the right direction that you recognize this. Start working on yourself and find some true passions! Writing, art, running, anything. It’s good for you and having something you’re passionate about makes you a better person and gives you a sense of pride about somethingz
Guys... Well you are right I guess it would be the easiest to go back to some dropped ones like volleyball Damm.. Still It is hard to get into something one ure past school
@ yeah, it can be hard, but I think a lot of people go through isolation when out of school as it’s harder to socialize. Try finding your local YMCA and doing community events! You can also find a brand new hobby.
There's one thing about Tighten that I think people go overboard with. They always say he's a "nice guy". There's a video by the channel "Movie Madness" that talks about how he is a guy living in his parents' basement type character. All that said, he is great.
@@CordeliaWagner1999yeah it i keep thinking about the fact people agreed to the deal of having stable resources, safety and a CHANCE of getting your deepest desire granted so long as it couldn't end wrong but nooo for some reason stealing someone's life's work is fine so long as it benefits the most vocal lol
Hot-take but Hal may be a surprisingly sad villain if we had more of his backstory. Much like syndrome in the Incredibles he was probably bullied as a kid. To those who have never been bullied before it can permanently affect your passive or active emotional states. Things like apathy or sociopathic tendencies can become quite common to the bullied depending on the level of torment and development after the fact. At the very least it can leave people feeling lonely and disconnected.
The second they said they needed a certain type of person to give the powers to, I knew Hal was it. He was the only other character other than the mayor/chief. Imagine if the chief had that power... no more crime and he'd be sweeping the grime off the streets himself every day I also just realized Titan was so lacking in brains and wanting to do things the lazy or difficult way then complain that it went wrong, that he spelled Titan the DIFFICULT way
That’s how he spell his name because that’s how his name is Tighten y’know cuz the suit is tight that’s why it’s goes by Tighten but the way they pronounce it sounds like they’re saying Titan
OKAY I HAVVE TO ASK im writting my own show my own animated show and i'm really confused on whatt type of villain i should have i don't wannna be cliche
How about a villain who feels betrayed by the hero who was supposed to be his friend when in reality he was just a horrible person that's why he was "betrayed"
wam, the part where he lazers titan onto the city that I know remember different, he actually spelled it "TITANVILLE" is the tightenville thing real or an edit?
No, no, no, no. I'm like 30 seconds in and you already got the lesson wrong. The entire point is that your crush does realize you exist, she just thinks you're a creepy d0uchebag. That being a 'little guy' doesn't make you a GOOD guy. That you cannot make your dreams come true with power alone.
This characters just straight up sucks. Cringiest villain ever made. All he does is just perpetuating a negative High School Bully stereotype. No characters progression whatsoever, just shoving down a bunch of shit down our throats.....
Why is people calling "Titan" as "Tighten"? I think the title is miswrote, is there any other dub that calls him Tighten?? Do people not know his name is TITAN and not TIGHTEN?? Edit: it seems like i am a dumbass and i have been wrong this entire time, sorry guys.
read Titan and Tighten again and then think about why people call him that even TIGHTEN himself calls himself Tighten, as seen by the laser vision writing on the city.
Lol I was actually liking through the comments because I KNEW someone would say this but it is actually 'tighten', because when megamind made hal a superhero he says he couldn't use 'titan' due to copyright issues, or something to that effect
There is no tooth fairy
There is no easter bunny
And there is no megamind 2
And there is no war in Ba Sing Se.
I mean we got Megamind from wish for a show
@@Transformersfan-o6i We don't talk about that.
There’s no sequel to Pacific rim
@@kyoyaootori1104 there is no war in ba sing se
Titan was a great surprise villain and a great foil for Megamind. Megamind himself is a showing for how anyone can be a hero while Hal is a reminder that anyone can be a villain.
Very rare to have a movie show both of those ideas and do them this well.
Tighten "There is no tooth fairy. There is no Easter Bunny. And there is no Queen of England."
2022:
He was right all along!
@@Piratewaffle43😔
Long live King Charles III
Bruh
It's been 2 years already? Man...
Tighten is what happens when you give powers to a spineless coward who has homicidal tendencies.
I like the distinction that Hal doesn’t actually like Roxane, he likes with the idea of her. Because that feels like a good way to discern the incel that he is, from an awkward guy who’s just unlucky in dating (proper definition or not, Incel as a slang term feels more like an entitled attitude towards dating/romantic interests rather than simply a virgin guy). because no one who actually likes someone would act like this. If you like someone you can be bummed sure, but you should want them to be happy. (It’s more nuanced from this and I’m no expert, but you shouldn’t be angry at them for it, basically)
All and all, cool analysis. I thought it was nice. 👍🏽
I totally agree! I think that when you get sad, it's because you didn't get something you wanted, whereas when you get mad, it's because you didn't get something you feel owed. Like, disappointment versus outrage, I guess
as the old saying goes: "power doesn't corrupt, it reveals"
This was a great video-- I'd like to add that another obstacle to the idea of Hal having any redeemability is his lack of self-awareness or empathy, putting everyone in so much risk and danger. I could maybe kind of get the sense that his choice to play games in his apartment could be seen as an attempt to return to the only life he knew how to lead as a means of self-soothing, but the way he stole that stuff and it was just sitting there as though he was bored with it showed that it was kind of like he took it like a trophy to show that he could get away with it. The only way he'd have had an off-ramp is if he'd chosen to lead a simpler lifestyle like Metro Man until he wrapped his head around it all, put a lot of self-reflection in and done the mental work, and done no harm in the meantime.
I'm trying to work together a villain that has a reason to focus on a particular person for her own reasons after another project of hers fails. I'm learning that making a villain is surprisingly challenging because they have to start relatively normal and then find a seemingly 'natural' progression to God knows where by thinking/doing stuff that runs so counter to what any average person would consider, but without becoming Snydly Whiplash and oversimplified. These video essays really are very helpful to analyze these characters and situations and add context.
A sense of hopelessness is a great motivator to slowly break down one's rationalization and turn it into a weapon against one's self without even becoming aware that it has happened.
I didn't particularly expect much from a video about a fictional villain other than learning about said villain, but I was so excited to learn about David Hawkin's chart of emotion! I had never heard of it before and it's so cool! It's like a different take on Maslow's hierarchy of needs. I'll definitely be using this in my further research.
Tighten is what happens when you give power to an incel.
Not all incels are horrible, rageful people. Incel just means involuntarily celibate, that's all.
The Incel community changed the meaning to agressively ha tin g women. With their behaviour towards women.
@@helixsol7171
While that is the text book definition, the term has devolved into also meaning someone who believes they are entitled to sex, romance, and the status it would bring. The usage of words change over time.
@@helixsol7171
Also, even the classic definition supports the entitled viewpoint as the “involuntary” half of full phrase shifts blame away from the individual and onto some nebulous outside party.
I don't know if it's just me, but Eddie Brock from Spider-Man 3 and Hal Stewart have very similar personalities, as they are both outright vile, perverted, psychopathic, devious, spiteful, dishonorable, heartless, dishonest, and outright sadistic scumbags who are already horrible people even long before getting their powers.
Hal isn't really that more he's just an incel
Honestly Hals the interesting character between the two. Spiderman 3 seems to think that Eddie was actually done wrong in the movie and actually had a reason to hate Peter when really he didn't.
Just another reason that movie was a disappointment.
That's why you have to shut down simps fast and hard, but respectfully, otherwise they start imagining things, or just stay there with hope they will eventually wear them down. Sadly, I know a lot of couples that's how it went down.
Just because you mention it, I like the fact that Metro-man is horrible at music, cause I enjoyed the thought of Metro-man reopening a personal aspect in his life and its struggles.
Because you can see him playing a ukulele in the school at the beginning, so I’d think he enjoys that as a hobby of his as a kid, which probably means he dropped the hobby once he got older and/or started working as a hero.
And after a tiring life that’s probably full of hollow victories, to things served to him on a silver platter because he’s superhuman, he found enjoyment in learning how to play guitar-whether it’s relearning or something new to him. He likes how challenging it is because it gives him a sense of purpose and normalcy, and once he perfects it, he’ll finally feel what true victory feels like.
This is one of my favorite movies of all time AND I NEVER NOTICED THAT!!!
And your interpretation managed to improved the character even more for me, which is insane. Honestly, you made my week dude 🙌
Hal’s the type of guy who believes that the world should owe him when he’s done nothing to deserve it. Look at Roxanne, Hal is in love with him, but she wants there relationship should just be professional. Hal thinks that if he was like Metro Man than Roxy would go out with him.
the funny thing is Roxanne probably isn't into Metroman. there was no implication for her to do so except be the representation of Lois Lane
4:16 "I wanna brake it down for you..."
*starts showing Benson dancing gif
Idc what the haters say. *Megamind* deserves a sequel.
Technically he got one, but it was awful.
I feel like titan is such a perfect example of the fact that being a loser is a choice that you actively make
But l am a loser even though l didn't even choice like l actively have a real life
@@ZachLn-oo4muI think they meant a different kind of loser: an obsessed creep
@@ZachLn-oo4mu same here
@@ZachLn-oo4mu you choose to call yourself a loser in this comment
You chose to do nothing about it@@ZachLn-oo4mu
My Idea of Creating a Truly Wrathful and Enraged Character is to Establish a Society that refuses to accept the Talents of the Character who feels Entitled to Praise of their Exceptional Abilities and Qualities and so afterwards the Character turns their Resentment towards Society into Pure Wrath specifically towards those who get Acknowledgement and Respect yet he Doesn’t.
So, no one's gonna talk about how Roxanne's head is bigger than the rest of her body?
It's odd, but I'd consider Hal here to be a great example of what happens when you give an incel too much power.
The difference between someone who's just unlucky in dating and/or having a hard time because of their appearance and an incel is very distinct.
The former doesn't think they're owed anything. Sure, there's frustration, but they understand that people can make choices. They're not entitled to affection, love, or anything else. They're a normal person at their core.
An incel on the other hand, believes they are deserving of love because of some nebulous "hardship" or "difficulty" and they are resentful of the society and world at large, simply because they can't get what they believe they're owed.
Give one too much power, and they'll tear everything apart out of some vindictive desire for unfounded revenge.
His name is what I do to my wheel bolts when it gets loosened.
Gotta turn that to the right
I wouldn't so much say that Tighten was a wrathful villain as much as he was an envious villain
I just realized his name is just a combination of the two main green lanterns in DC, Hal Jordan and John Stewart.
I wonder what the idea was about the choice. I don't even thini Metroman and Megamind HAD names outside of their "gig" names.
By metro city of course you mean metrocity
finally, videos that give super villains some attention.
when the video insults the villain, that's when you know he's misreable
It's wild that Hal is such a perfect mirror to podcast bro/incel culture despite Megamind coming out WELL BEFORE that type of manipulative content became so mainstream. There is a SCARY amount of men that would absolutely empathize with Hal in the modern day.
Andrew Tighten, for example.
Love your videos man
I mean Titan DOES have some revelance today, more so in memes though
I wouldn't mind seeing you cover Doctor Octopus. From Spider-Man 2.
Im beginging to have some daubts about myslef now, due to having a lot of symphaty for the guy
I just hope i dont get powers anytime soon
take up a hobby and self-development, no superpowers will give you
Hey! Step in the right direction that you recognize this. Start working on yourself and find some true passions! Writing, art, running, anything. It’s good for you and having something you’re passionate about makes you a better person and gives you a sense of pride about somethingz
Guys...
Well you are right
I guess it would be the easiest to go back to some dropped ones like volleyball
Damm..
Still It is hard to get into something one ure past school
@ yeah, it can be hard, but I think a lot of people go through isolation when out of school as it’s harder to socialize.
Try finding your local YMCA and doing community events! You can also find a brand new hobby.
I always hated how Hal couldn't spell Titan.
There's one thing about Tighten that I think people go overboard with. They always say he's a "nice guy". There's a video by the channel "Movie Madness" that talks about how he is a guy living in his parents' basement type character. All that said, he is great.
also when we see Hal knocked out we see him reading a book of evil and a poster of rocksan in his apartment.
i can't understand how you still didn't crack the 1000k
can you make a video on how NOT to write a twist villain with Zootpoia's: Asst. Mayor Belleweather?
Can you make a video about Magnifico from Disney's "Wish"? Everything about that stupid movie sucks, and it has the WORST villain i've ever seen. 😓💔💢
He isn't the Villain. He is the good guy till the story goes from ____ to even ________.
@@CordeliaWagner1999yeah it i keep thinking about the fact people agreed to the deal of having stable resources, safety and a CHANCE of getting your deepest desire granted so long as it couldn't end wrong but nooo for some reason stealing someone's life's work is fine so long as it benefits the most vocal lol
Hot-take but Hal may be a surprisingly sad villain if we had more of his backstory. Much like syndrome in the Incredibles he was probably bullied as a kid. To those who have never been bullied before it can permanently affect your passive or active emotional states. Things like apathy or sociopathic tendencies can become quite common to the bullied depending on the level of torment and development after the fact. At the very least it can leave people feeling lonely and disconnected.
The second they said they needed a certain type of person to give the powers to, I knew Hal was it. He was the only other character other than the mayor/chief. Imagine if the chief had that power... no more crime and he'd be sweeping the grime off the streets himself every day
I also just realized Titan was so lacking in brains and wanting to do things the lazy or difficult way then complain that it went wrong, that he spelled Titan the DIFFICULT way
Hal is the average incel given superpowers. Think about the ramifications of that.
Guess now we need Cornhead Killer, the best real villain.
That’s how he spell his name because that’s how his name is Tighten y’know cuz the suit is tight that’s why it’s goes by Tighten but the way they pronounce it sounds like they’re saying Titan
OKAY I HAVVE TO ASK im writting my own show my own animated show and i'm really confused on whatt type of villain i should have i don't wannna be cliche
How about a villain who feels betrayed by the hero who was supposed to be his friend when in reality he was just a horrible person that's why he was "betrayed"
@ hasn't that been done a whole lot before
Who could forget tighten
How To Write a Wrathful Villain - Tighten (Megamind) uh im sorry "titan"
Can you make a video about sir axle rod from cars 2
wam, the part where he lazers titan onto the city that I know remember different, he actually spelled it "TITANVILLE" is the tightenville thing real or an edit?
Holy shit, you managed to extend this video as much as possible...
Can you do one about the villain from turbo pleeeeeeease.
Imagine hal & manny switching places?
No, no, no, no. I'm like 30 seconds in and you already got the lesson wrong.
The entire point is that your crush does realize you exist, she just thinks you're a creepy d0uchebag. That being a 'little guy' doesn't make you a GOOD guy. That you cannot make your dreams come true with power alone.
Sooo he’s an incel… got it.
How is Megamind getting new reviews
Fuck that's me
I thought his name was Titan
This characters just straight up sucks. Cringiest villain ever made. All he does is just perpetuating a negative High School Bully stereotype. No characters progression whatsoever, just shoving down a bunch of shit down our throats.....
Really hope major animation companies do more superhero films!
Oh god please no
No more superheros PLEASE we need a break
@Brex10 I'm down for some original ones--ESPRCIALLY if Disney did a musical (in a noncomedic, nonironic way).
Why is people calling "Titan" as "Tighten"? I think the title is miswrote, is there any other dub that calls him Tighten?? Do people not know his name is TITAN and not TIGHTEN??
Edit: it seems like i am a dumbass and i have been wrong this entire time, sorry guys.
read Titan and Tighten again and then think about why people call him that
even TIGHTEN himself calls himself Tighten, as seen by the laser vision writing on the city.
7:55
@@Geheimnis-c2e i am so confused, I have been wrong all this time??? dayum
He calls HIMSELF Tighten 🤣
I... can't believe his name is spelled "Tighten" TF man, at least make it cool.
Tighten is an S rank Simp crashout.
Damn 2 minutes and only 4 views. Bro fell off
This joke is old
Dude, shut up.
This joke is even more ancient that ancient Egypt at this point. Please, for the love of God, stop!
That joke is more ancient than the dinosaurs, just stop already!
Please just stop this joke This joke is Over used and unfunny
titan* what is a tighten?
Lol I was actually liking through the comments because I KNEW someone would say this but it is actually 'tighten', because when megamind made hal a superhero he says he couldn't use 'titan' due to copyright issues, or something to that effect
Awooooooga. That’s all I got, get me to the top team. Also good video