#7 of 16: PAKISTAN: ORIGINS, IDENTITY, AND FUTURE

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  • Опубліковано 20 лип 2023
  • Pervez Hoodbhoy in conversation with Shaheryar Azhar. #6 of 16 episodes.
    -- Jinnah trivializes East-West differences
    -- The roots of Bengali separatism
    -- What really happened in 1971?
    -- Punjab still doesn’t want to know why
    -- Final reflections
    The international edition (Routledge) of this book is available from: www.amazon.com/Pakistan-Perve... , and the local (Pakistani) version from:
    foliobooks.pk/book-author/per...
    TABLE OF CONTENTS:
    o Front cover endorsement by Noam Chomsky
    o Back cover endorsements
    o Acknowledgments
    o About the author
    o Foreword by Christophe Jaffrelot
    o Why this Book?
    o Charting the Labyrinth
    - Myths of a nation’s origin
    - Exclusivism as philosophy
    - Was Partition accidental?
    - The book’s expeditionary map (Parts I-V)
    o Part One: Long Before The Two Nation Idea
    1. Identity formation in medieval India
    - The herd instinct
    - India without nations
    - The Sanskrit controversy
    - Muslim invasions
    - Mughal era purifiers of Islam
    - Conclusion
    2. The British reinvent India
    - Colonialism quietly sneaks in
    - The Great Mutiny - a watershed
    - Demoralized Muslim ashrafiyya
    - Exception: the United Provinces
    - The Muslim predicament
    - Modernity impacts Muslims
    - Modernity impacts Hindus
    - Ways begin to part
    o Part Two: A Closer Look At Pakistan’s Three Founder-Heroes
    3. Founder I: the lonely modernizer
    - Early years
    - It’s okay to eat mangos
    - Metamorphosis to modernity
    - Siding with the British
    - An unabashed elitist
    - The non-communal Sir Syed
    - Sir Syed communalizes
    - Sir Syed’s mixed legacy
    4. Founder II: premier poet-preacher-politician
    - Everyone loves Iqbal
    - Biographical sketch
    - Philosopher or just philosophical?
    - Iqbal uses languages selectively
    - Iqbal on faith versus reason
    - Iqbal’s physics/math criticisms
    - Iqbal’s “higher” communalism
    - Iqbal on women
    - Iqbal on theocracy
    - Iqbal on blasphemy
    - Iqbal and Sir Syed compared
    5. Founder III: liberal-secular-visionary?
    - Did Jinnah have a plan?
    - Anticipating dependence
    - Did Jinnah not want Pakistan?
    - Jinnah - the man
    - Did Jinnah want secularism?
    - Jinnah fuses politics with religion
    - Jinnah and the Islamic state
    - Jinnah’s Shia problem
    - A master tactician not strategist
    6. Jinnah trounces his Muslim opponents
    - Maududi - Jinnah’s nemesis
    - Azad - the prescient cleric
    - Bacha Khan - the peaceful Pathan
    - Who won, who lost?
    o Part Three: Postnatal Blues
    7. Stubborn angularities I: Bengal
    - A snapshot of history
    - Mocking Bangla
    - The road to separation
    - Punjab still doesn’t want to know why
    - Bangladesh overtakes Pakistan
    - Final reflections
    8. Stubborn angularities II: Balochistan
    - A shotgun wedding
    - Baloch identity emerges
    - Changes since 1947
    - Too rich to be left alone
    - CPEC and Balochistan
    - The secession question
    - The way forward
    o Part Four: Five Big Questions
    9. Was Partition worth the price?
    - The no-Pakistan option
    - Socialist utopia rejected
    - Mobilizing the Muslim masses
    - The winners
    - The losers
    - The cobra effect
    10. What is the ideology of Pakistan - and why does it matter?
    - Ideology defined
    - Hindutva ideology
    - Pakistan ka matlab kya?
    - The weaponization of ideology
    - Resolving the ideology conundrum
    11. Why couldn’t Pakistan become an Islamic state?
    - Warmup: a Christian state
    - Who speaks for Islam?
    - Qur’an and Islamic state
    - Islamic scholars on the Islamic state
    - Model I: The Medina state
    - Model II: Maudoodi’s Islamic state
    - Model III: The Taliban state
    - The caliphate’s undying appeal
    - The ummah and pan-Islamism
    - What created political Islam?
    - What if Pakistan becomes an Islamic sharia state?
    - Is a liberal sharia state possible?
    12. Why is Pakistan a praetorian state?
    - The Establishment defined
    - Bankrupt political class
    - A once apolitical army
    - America’s junior partner
    - Strong men make weak countries
    - Wars of choice
    - Cross-border jihad - a failed experiment
    - Courting the blasphemy-busters
    - India under martial law?
    13. Identity crisis: I’m Pakistani but what am I?
    - Inventing an ancient Pakistan
    - Telling Hindu from Muslim
    - State imposed identity
    - Cultural orphans
    - The first Pakistani
    - Arab Wannabe Syndrome
    - My name is Ertugrul
    - Citizens and subjects
    - Price of prejudice
    - The overseas Pakistani
    - Folks: here’s what I really am!
    o Part Five: Looking Ahead
    14. Three imminent physical perils
    - Climate change
    - Population bomb
    - Nuclear war
    - Prognosis up to 2047
    15. The paths travelled post-1971
    - Experiment One - Vengeance
    - Experiment Two - Nizam-e-Mustafa
    - Experiment Three - Enlightened moderation
    - Experiment Four - Hybrid regime
    - Why the experiments failed
    16. Replacing the Two Nation Theory
    - End legalized discrimination
    - Spread the wealth
    - Pakistan not Punjabistan
    - Uncage the women
    - Give skills don’t brainwash
    - Cool down Kashmir
    - Send army to the barracks
    - Epilogue
    o Index

КОМЕНТАРІ • 23

  • @shameemqureshi2774
    @shameemqureshi2774 10 місяців тому +8

    Well done Dr Sahib. Someone needs to shake up the intoxicated nation fed on lies and hypocrisy. You have done exactly that. I salute our Bengali brethren for their long and bloody struggle (they lost more lives in getting freedom from West Pakistan in 1971 compared to 1947). What a shame for Pakistanis.😢

  • @virendraSingh-je3sx
    @virendraSingh-je3sx 10 місяців тому +1

    What a jem is Prof. Pervez. Wish him good health and long life. Respect to him from India.

  • @ChefbyMistake
    @ChefbyMistake 10 місяців тому +3

    Jimnah created Pakistan for his Gujarati Khoja businessmen.
    In order to protect the wealth of Gujurati Moslems who were married with Iranians and trading with Iran, Arabia and East Africa.
    It's not about Urdu even Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy is a Khoja Gujurati speaker himself he must expose Agha Khan and Ismaili faith for its role in the creation of Pakistan.

  • @somnathde8680
    @somnathde8680 10 місяців тому

    Thank you Hoodbhoy, Sir from India.
    Quality discussion.

  • @user-jy2zt2nz3l
    @user-jy2zt2nz3l 10 місяців тому

    What an insightful discussion. Thanks to both the scholars for your great work

  • @you_jay
    @you_jay 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for creating these breakdowns and bringing them to us viewers with a concise thought provoking discussion.

  • @theirvideo
    @theirvideo 10 місяців тому

    As per Sherlock Homes “ Crime is common but logic is rare”!

  • @srinathmitta661
    @srinathmitta661 10 місяців тому

    Prof, please read Rehman Sobhan's "Tranquil Recollections "if you have not read it . This is a recent book by Rehman who is among the most eminent social scientists of Bangladesh. This will give a refreshingly different perspective, distinct from Pakistani & Indian versions. .

  • @rahuketu2484
    @rahuketu2484 10 місяців тому

    People who know about creation of Pakistan have a very amusing saying about Jinnah - now we have a country but what should we do with it , I don’t know!

  • @ajitpalsinghatwal7931
    @ajitpalsinghatwal7931 10 місяців тому +1

    India took advantage of the situation in present day bangladesh?? yes may be, but what about 2-3 million bengali refugees in india.Thousands of more refugees were coming to india everyday.Secondly india had to pay back for OPERATION GIBRALTER

  • @raziagauhar9018
    @raziagauhar9018 10 місяців тому +1

    Is this book available on Amazon /

  • @omeradmani2656
    @omeradmani2656 10 місяців тому +1

    Unfortunately, not many people in Pakistan are watching this.

  • @SunilSharma-cw4qp
    @SunilSharma-cw4qp 10 місяців тому +1

    Pervez Houdbuoy is commander in chief of the rational sociy of South Asia 🌏.
    However Pervez Houdbuoy is partially right about crimes against Bengal muslims.
    Sir Hindu Bengali were treated the worst treated.

  • @khalidjunejo3436
    @khalidjunejo3436 10 місяців тому

    کتاب بھی انگلش میں اور جو آپ گفتگو کر رہے ہیں وہ بھی انگلش میں، تو پھر مجھ سے کیا سمجھیں گے۔ میری گذارش ہے کہ آپ اردو میں گفتگو کریں۔ بہت شکریہ

  • @jamshedfbc
    @jamshedfbc 10 місяців тому

  • @javaidkhan367
    @javaidkhan367 10 місяців тому +1

    …And the question is can we truthfully teach this to our children….and the answer is clear …NO!

  • @vipinmaithani1
    @vipinmaithani1 10 місяців тому

    Sir aap ek scincedan hain ilsiye ek bhartiya hone ke naate aapko sunta hun aur bhart me log aap kafi pasand karte hain.
    Aap ke Pkis tan me ek Tthakathit Daneshwar Hshan
    Nisar Sir Vigyan se aapka. Gehara nata hai to Hsan nisar sahab ke DNA pe bhi face to face dibet. Chahti hai kya pakistan ki awam kya bhart ki awam.

  • @shri13680
    @shri13680 10 місяців тому +1

    Pakistan was on wrong trajectory right from its existence. It cannot hope to be successful by hating its native civilization of Sanatan dharma its very roots.

  • @tarunyadav7026
    @tarunyadav7026 10 місяців тому

    thak gya hu bro life s ab bs pakistani ko apne aapko ko gali dete huye sunte hi thoda relax feel hota h

  • @durgaprasad-yh3wn
    @durgaprasad-yh3wn 10 місяців тому

    🎉😢😢😢

  • @abhishekinfra
    @abhishekinfra 10 місяців тому +1

    India bullied Bangladesh on immigration and borders ? As their freedom giver, we have a legitimate concern over illegal Bangladeshi immigrants just as many EU countries do. Bangladesh under Khaleda Zia hosted millitants that plotted attacks against the country that helped them get independence. So, some pressure is due WITHOUT sanctions, military threats, sneaking terrorists etc. Trade between India and Bangladesh never stopped. My dad visited Bangladesh for business too without any hitch. Thousands of Bangladeshi businessmen visit Kolkata (West Bengal) each year.
    The borders were settled under Modi without redrawing them. Modi has been a guest of honour under Shiekh Hasina. Our respective Army Chiefs have also been honoured in each other's nations and rightly so.
    The Punjabi-Pathan feudal Pakistan is the only cancer on the subcontinent.

  • @bhaveshpatel7042
    @bhaveshpatel7042 10 місяців тому

    Sorry pavrezbhai, your society is on dead end. Until education curriculum and constitution change nothing will happen. Will take minimum 30 years. No ZINAH’s children came to Pakistan to live, their grand children are doing well in India