#13 of 16: PAKISTAN: ORIGINS, IDENTITY, AND FUTURE
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- Опубліковано 31 сер 2023
- Pervez Hoodbhoy in conversation with Shaheryar Azhar
-- Why all nations are imagined quantities
-- Pakistan’s search for Arab origins
-- The glorification of Ertugrul Ghazi
-- Why do Punjabis not speak Punjabi?
-- Can Pakistan gel together as a nation?
-- What should be a Pakistani’s identity?
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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
o Front cover endorsement by Noam Chomsky
o Back cover endorsements
o Acknowledgments
o About the author
o Foreword by Christophe Jaffrelot
o Why this Book?
o Charting the Labyrinth
- Myths of a nation’s origin
- Exclusivism as philosophy
- Was Partition accidental?
- The book’s expeditionary map (Parts I-V)
o Part One: Long Before The Two Nation Idea
1. Identity formation in medieval India
- The herd instinct
- India without nations
- The Sanskrit controversy
- Muslim invasions
- Mughal era purifiers of Islam
- Conclusion
2. The British reinvent India
- Colonialism quietly sneaks in
- The Great Mutiny - a watershed
- Demoralized Muslim ashrafiyya
- Exception: the United Provinces
- The Muslim predicament
- Modernity impacts Muslims
- Modernity impacts Hindus
- Ways begin to part
o Part Two: A Closer Look At Pakistan’s Three Founder-Heroes
3. Founder I: the lonely modernizer
- Early years
- It’s okay to eat mangos
- Metamorphosis to modernity
- Siding with the British
- An unabashed elitist
- The non-communal Sir Syed
- Sir Syed communalizes
- Sir Syed’s mixed legacy
4. Founder II: premier poet-preacher-politician
- Everyone loves Iqbal
- Biographical sketch
- Philosopher or just philosophical?
- Iqbal uses languages selectively
- Iqbal on faith versus reason
- Iqbal’s physics/math criticisms
- Iqbal’s “higher” communalism
- Iqbal on women
- Iqbal on theocracy
- Iqbal on blasphemy
- Iqbal and Sir Syed compared
5. Founder III: liberal-secular-visionary?
- Did Jinnah have a plan?
- Anticipating dependence
- Did Jinnah not want Pakistan?
- Jinnah - the man
- Did Jinnah want secularism?
- Jinnah fuses politics with religion
- Jinnah and the Islamic state
- Jinnah’s Shia problem
- A master tactician not strategist
6. Jinnah trounces his Muslim opponents
- Maududi - Jinnah’s nemesis
- Azad - the prescient cleric
- Bacha Khan - the peaceful Pathan
- Who won, who lost?
o Part Three: Postnatal Blues
7. Stubborn angularities I: Bengal
- A snapshot of history
- Mocking Bangla
- The road to separation
- Punjab still doesn’t want to know why
- Bangladesh overtakes Pakistan
- Final reflections
8. Stubborn angularities II: Balochistan
- A shotgun wedding
- Baloch identity emerges
- Changes since 1947
- Too rich to be left alone
- CPEC and Balochistan
- The secession question
- The way forward
o Part Four: Five Big Questions
9. Was Partition worth the price?
- The no-Pakistan option
- Socialist utopia rejected
- Mobilizing the Muslim masses
- The winners
- The losers
- The cobra effect
10. What is the ideology of Pakistan - and why does it matter?
- Ideology defined
- Hindutva ideology
- Pakistan ka matlab kya?
- The weaponization of ideology
- Resolving the ideology conundrum
11. Why couldn’t Pakistan become an Islamic state?
- Warmup: a Christian state
- Who speaks for Islam?
- Qur’an and Islamic state
- Islamic scholars on the Islamic state
- Model I: The Medina state
- Model II: Maudoodi’s Islamic state
- Model III: The Taliban state
- The caliphate’s undying appeal
- The ummah and pan-Islamism
- What created political Islam?
- What if Pakistan becomes an Islamic sharia state?
- Is a liberal sharia state possible?
12. Why is Pakistan a praetorian state?
- The Establishment defined
- Bankrupt political class
- A once apolitical army
- America’s junior partner
- Strong men make weak countries
- Wars of choice
- Cross-border jihad - a failed experiment
- Courting the blasphemy-busters
- India under martial law?
13. Identity crisis: I’m Pakistani but what am I?
- Inventing an ancient Pakistan
- Telling Hindu from Muslim
- State imposed identity
- Cultural orphans
- The first Pakistani
- Arab Wannabe Syndrome
- My name is Ertugrul
- Citizens and subjects
- Price of prejudice
- The overseas Pakistani
- Folks: here’s what I really am!
o Part Five: Looking Ahead
14. Three imminent physical perils
- Climate change
- Population bomb
- Nuclear war
- Prognosis up to 2047
15. The paths travelled post-1971
- Experiment One - Vengeance
- Experiment Two - Nizam-e-Mustafa
- Experiment Three - Enlightened moderation
- Experiment Four - Hybrid regime
- Why the experiments failed
16. Replacing the Two Nation Theory
- End legalized discrimination
- Spread the wealth
- Pakistan not Punjabistan
- Uncage the women
- Give skills don’t brainwash
- Cool down Kashmir
- Send army to the barracks
- Epilogue
o Index
"Every Pakistani is from here, but I have Arab and central Asian roots."
~ Every Pakistani, including the host.
i cant imagine ppl trying to look outsider for their roots nd try to disown their ancsetor..😮
Two places that Pakistanis claim to be belonging from, central Asia and arab world , themselves were no comparison to the land they actually are originally from ..their own land India ....the worst form of inferiority complex ever witnessed on this planet ...or is it due to the choice of religion? Just imagine , if afganistanis were Buddhist and Hindus now !! How would that beautiful land be ?
Thought provoking discussion.
Thanks from India.
Nationalism and religion divides us and our common humanity unites us, beautifully expressed. Thank you
Awesome and amazing
That's why Maj.Gaurav Arya says if there is any body to be watched all the times, it's Dr.Hoodboy.😊
In india, muslims are not considered as people from outside, but the religion culture and traditions that they adopted or forced to take up is considered foreign.
I enjoyed this conversation. National identity of Pakistanis is being discussed comparing Indians. India is a very diverse and complex nation. People are different between the North and South, East and West still they are all Indians. There are more similarities between the Pakitanis and North Indians when compared to Noth Indians and South Indians. Most south indians do not speak Hindi and they are darker in complexion when compared to north, they are even racially different but theIr Indian identity is not questioned since they are all born on Indian soil. I have seen that Pakistanis and North Indians mingle easily outside their home lands. As a south indian I feel as a stranger..
An interesting discussion between Dr Hoodbhoy and Dr Sayyed.
Talking of hostels - it is mostly for the privileged and the elite.
You could touch upon how far the Madrassas are a unifying factor, based upon their common approach towards the society,
Influence of Mullahs churned out from Madrassas appears to be growing faster than school and college going students who have some semblance of secular approach.
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Have you read a book by Iqbal Chand Mehrotra, please do
Indian Muslims too have identity crisis, as explained by you for Pakistani Muslims
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27:04 The challenge with acceptance of "multiple identities" is that the same "multiple" concept can be extended to religion. "Multiple Gods" is definitely not acceptable to Islam.
Therein lies the dichotomy of logic in the expectations of the speakers.
If Muslims of British India were One Nation (basis of Two Nation Theory) then why did Bengali Muslims formed a separate nation of Bangladesh
Borders, identities, colors, races, religions are used as manipulative tactics for vested interests to divide humanity.. whatever we were it doesn't matter. All nations on earth has a past. What matters is what we are doing and where we are heading. We need to talk on economy, business, industry, welfare, education, technology and eradicating poverty, helping people, decent values, honesty, democracy and vision.
Sir, the problem of identity is not unique to Pakistan, it exists in all non-Arab Islamic countries across the globe to date.
I was born in United Pakistan but my Pakistani passport records my country of birth as Bangladesh.
If Islamic Republic of Pakistan ruled by Islamic rulers no problems
We INDIAN thank JINNAH SAAB a lot tah e dil se 😅😅😅😅
A nation formed on the basis of notion of hatred towards fellow son of soil just because he belongs to a different religion will never find its true identity and this hatred will one day consume this nation itself
No, Sir, for once you are NOT correct:
It's these Naye Mullas who are increasingly falling victim to the notions of hailing from Arabia, Syria, Turkey etc. despite everything in and about them cries its identity out.
Whether pure or somewhat pure, bottom line is the country is bankrupt. Now go analyze why.
Read some advait Vedant
Every Pakistani has origin in India - you wanted to have your origin from Arabia do you could have your own identity - but you Pakistani are not Arabs - accept your origin as from India -
Grand father of jinha n Iqbal were Hindu, they converted because of some reason , u can find out from your history