Who To "Blame" For Afghanistan - SOME MORE NEWS
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00:00 - Intro
1:52 - Afghanistan: Where To Begin?
10:15 - Afghanistan: Who Do We Blame?
29:14 - Afghanistan: Let's Blame George W. Bush.
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46:18 - Afghanistan: Who Isn't To Blame?
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What happened??
Urg, I guess i will rewatch this, again.
No problem. Gives me an excuse to watch it again
I'm assuming it was to add the seizure warning
LOL, I was right in the middle of watching it when it vanished. I was afraid the boars go you.
Cody, I'm starting to think its never gonna be the "fun" episode.
@@TrunkyGurden Star Wars? Isn't that the franchise that makes me an SJW cuck if I don't harrass cast and crew?
Wild boars!
@@TrunkyGurden ....fair.
learning is fun, right?
I was a supporter of the war early on. George W. Bush had my full backing. I was there for 9/11 - I saw what happened and I knew something needed to be done. The war on terror made sense, and it just seemed like the right thing to do.
And then I turned 12 and started developing critical thinking skills.
Had me in the first half, gj
You wrote the best possible response.
Even G. Bush Jr eventually realized he was a puppet if his father. Now hes the equivalent of a person who was part of some war crimes trying to do any good he can, like doing paint therapy for military veterans. The war on terror was a joke, and it will always be.
I was 65 on 9/11. My immediate reaction: initiating war in Afghanistan is obviously, colossally stupid. Bombing will just rearrange the rubble there. But where were all the other sentient adults who could grasp the obvious? Very very few.
Yeah, most Americans supported the war at first. But somehow someway now every American claims to have always opposed the war.
@@rvantong some of us stood on the street and waved impotent signs twenty years ago.
Don't remember who tweeted it, but "If you occupy a country for 20 years and the government you put in place collapses within a month of you leaving, you weren't doing 'nation-building', you just had an imperial province".
As an Afghan vet, this was a fantastic and important episode. I can't even begin to wrap my head around what it would take to break the illusion that Americans have in their heads about the reasons we go to war. General Smedley Butler called this shit a long time ago and nobody fucking listened
There's a reason we never heard about General Butler in history class.
I try to convince many I talk to about this concept: don't listen to our words, but pay attention to our actions. We talk about supporting democracy/freedom, and opposing tyranny/oppression, but if you look at where we get involved in foreign powers' affairs, that reasoning doesn't hold water. We support tyrannical dictators when they are willing to work with us, and overthrow democracies when they won't. There are people in many parts of the world asking for help starting a democracy or opposing oppression, and we don't get involved. Again, if you try to apply the democracy/freedom thing to our actions, nothing we do makes sense.
If, however, you realize that our foreign policy is all about supporting our economic interests and checking our rivals (China and Russia), then everything we have done suddenly makes total sense.
I've been advocating that we do one of two things: be honest about our motivations, or actually try to live up to the ideals we espouse (for cover). The rest of the world sees through our bullsh*t from the last century, and doesn't buy that it is about democracy and freedom; so if the lie isn't working, why not try the truth? There is nothing wrong with our actual motivations; everyone is trying to further their own economic interests and check their rivals. It's an understandable motivation, and no one could challenge that reasoning without being a hypocrite.
Or we could actually try to live up to those ideals, and actually go into countries where there is a large populace trying to start a democracy and trying to overthrow a tyrant, even when it doesn't serve out economic interests to do so, or does nothing to check our rivals. We could stop supporting dictators that serve our economic interests, and stop overthrowing democracies that won't serve our interests. To be honest, this solution seems less likely, but might actually be the better plan in the long run.
Either way, we can't keep pretending that we are altruistic when playing realpolitik. No one is buying it, except for a few uninformed idiots in this country. We need to either tell the truth about our actual motivations, or start putting our "money where our mouth is" when it comes to the ideals that we espouse.
war is a racket is a great book everyone should read
@@quantumperception Thing is, the lie works _domestically._ The rest of the world sees through it, but plenty of Americans still buy it, making them much more compliant and co-operative than they might otherwise be. And since it doesn't cost the regime much to maintain the lie, why not?
Maybe cause his name is Smedley! Lol jk
Dick Cheney deserves way more blame than he received. Otherwise, great as always
Still can't believe Dick Cheney's shoot his friend in the face and made him apologize classic dick
Cheney belongs in front of the ICC at the Hague for the stuff he pulled.
This is not a very good comment. Try harder next time.
Dick Cheney is one of the most metaphorically (and now literally) heartless individuals on Earth. I mean, he has someone else's heart beating in his undeserving zombie chest... Fuck that guy.
@@keymianeal6117 with friends like that.....
"You get to be the President, and then you go to jail."
My brain: 'prison-dent'
I love this show specifically because Cody isn't trying to cover one asscheek while exposing the other asscheek. Four presidents from both sides fucked this up and should have some accountability.
I've been thinking to myself for a long time that we might never get a President without a questionable background and shady morals.
Things we could have done with $3 trillion:
"Solve" green energy
Water desalination
End homelessness
Improve education
Infrastructure
...etc
Yeah, but that'd require actual work and ingenuity. Buying useless shit for the military at a 500% markup and funnelling the profits into your political dynasty's bank account via a contractor company run by one of your failsons is much easier.
This really says a lot about America's priorities, doesn't it?
The oligarchs give us enough to be afraid of losing it but not enough to thrive... and this will continue in perpetuity as long as the same dynasts remain in positions of influence.
@@Jay32954 Is this really an America thing? Are other major countries putting that much money into those issues?
@@DriscolDevil Some are. Sadly, mine isn't one of them. We seem to have that in common.
You know what else has been blamed that shouldn’t be? CRT and LGBT+. People say we lost because these things made the military weak. Any excuse, am I right?
Ok, as a non-American looking in, this whole 'Bush rejected the Taliban’s offer to hand over Bin Laden' gave me a _lot_ of pause, double take and a 'am I reading this right?'
Like, how in the name of fuck wasn’t this a bigger thing?
Why am I just learning about this _now_ !?
I'm 30, I was alive when 9/11 happened. I remember watching the news back in my country and all.
To be fair you probably did not hear about it because the statement that the Taliban offered to hand Bin Laden over needs to be followed by some asterisks. 1. The Taliban government first offered to try him in Afgan court if the US could present significant evidence. 2. Once the US began its bombing campaign the Taliban government made offers to send Bin Laden to an unspecified neutral country that as they put it "could never fall under the influence of the United States". So this segment sort of omits the finer details and make it seem like the Taliban were offering a good faith offer of extradition for Bin Laden to stand trial in the US, which they were not.
I had a similar double take until I looked into it as well. The comment above has summarized the true nature of the “offer” perfectly
I should note that I am in agreement with Cody on the overall premise of the segment, just that this one statement oversimplified to the point of being bit misleading.
Also the leader of the Taliban said this: VOA: So you won't give Osama bin Laden up?
Omar: No. We cannot do that. If we did, it means we are not Muslims... that Islam is finished. If we were afraid of attack, we could have surrendered him the last time we were threatened and attacked. So America can hit us again, and this time we don't even have a friend.
The "offer" was duplicitous at best.
It is really not necessary to disingenuously lay this accusation at GWB‘s doorstep to make the point that he screwed up. I love watching Cody but do take the facts and factoids he presents with a grain of salt.
America is a tv show where we forget everything that happened 1 season before. We're a highly armed nation of Alzheimer's patients.
Basically every country these days. You drown people in mindless consumption and entertainment, you make them fight for survival literally everyday, there’s very little scope left for revolutionary ideas or change.
@@HussainSaahil Careful now. The word "revolution" is almost tantamount to treason this days. I wonder why "they" are sooo nervous.
@@HussainSaahil There's this thing called western europe.
@@ade-oluwaspov206 Only for the left. 1/6 is ok if you are powerful enough to sit in Congress , the White House, or Fox News.
We also have no sense of cause and effect. We feel entitled to fucking around in other countries then act surprised when people from those countries want to move here for safety.
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― George Orwell
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Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky, Orwell, Freud, Johnson, and Trump all come from Vienna Bavaria capital of the Holy Roman Empire. Pro life is a foundational Roman tenet.
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Dea Marica had a sacred grove and a temple at the mouth of the Liris near the city of Minturnae (modern Minturno). Her grove there was called the Lucus Maricae (which unsurprisingly translates to "the Grove of Marica"); evidently it was fairly large and thickly wooded (and I'm guessing pretty swampy too), for it served as a place of hiding and protection for Caius Marius, a general and six-time consul (kinda-sorta a co-president of Rome) who fled that city in 88 BCE after using the egregious tactic of bringing armed soldiers into the forum to force a vote his way. As he had once been a famous general, responsible for many victories, and as he was also at the time nearly 70 years old, the people of Minturnae took pity on him and helped him to escape to Africa. It was said that Dea Marica took him under Her protection while he was hiding out in Her grove, and that She helped to turn his fortunes for the better.
Marica lays with Vaticanus, Scion of Faunus and Grandson of Saturn, to birth Latinus, and Graecus meaning "Son". Vaticanus is himself the Son of Faunus, or Pan, being the Slavic word for Lord, and associated with Baal. It is a Temple and Grove to Pan that sits at the base of Mt Zion, aka Mt Hermon, where they are currently building a Temple to Trump.
The Bible itself is based on translations of the Vaticanus Graecus Manuscript, which was also used by Vettori Valentinus to create a 13 month Lunar Zodiac.
Turns out the Cross comes from a Rabbi drawing the Cross of Baal, it marks the East West line of the Sun, and the North and South are seen as cold and hot.
This is the basis for the name Yahweh, which is Yah, Forward, and Weh, Hook, because it is the crook and flail of Osiris.
Osiris was encoded as St John, a Setian who wore Goat cloth, just as they do during Lupercalia, a Roman holiday associated with the origins of Valentines day, which is a cross quarter day marking the border between seasons. The Phoenicians became the Celts, and their Sunset based religion was inverted by the Sun worshipping Greeks and Romans. While Jews celebrated September and the rise of Orion as their New Year, the Greeks saw it as the rise of Serpentis, 13th Sunsign of the Babylonian zodiac. Whereas for Canaanites and Egyptians before Arkenaten, they saw the rise of the Phoenix in Spring, hence Lucifer, Lord of the Air, light bringer. The same stone used to annoint Jewish Kings was used to Coronate the Queen, the Stone of Destiny traces back to Harran, birthplace of Abraham, the same stone was known as the Holy Grail, or Philosopher's Stone, which the Phoenix stepped onto to ignite after anointing in Frankinscense and Myrrh, the King is Dead, Long live the King.
Which is why Masons don't celebrate their birth, rather their death. It's Orpheus Worship, all the traditions are the same, because it was the death of Dionysus that marked his rebirth, just as they see their spark as being released from the earthy plane at death to live among the Gods of the Imperial Cult of Rome, much like the Valhalla of Vikings, in fact Valhalla and Freemason both mean "Hall of Light." Just as Pharoah means "Great House" hence the White House, and why the first name of the Templars was the Brotherhood of the Great White Snake, a reference to St John on Malta, and Osiris and his poisoned chalice (golden cup, hence Rosicrucians). Osiris also was worshipped with Communion of Wine and Bread, which were seen as his body. He was the intecessor for his people and Rey, and the ritual founder of Freemasonry Imhotep, built the first Pyramid in Egypt in 2750BC
The time of Shiva, Nimrod, Osiris, and Abraham.
Man I loved Orwell, so insightful. A wonderful author
@@uncannyvalley2350 Dear Uncanny Valley, thank you so much for the background, a veritable service to the community
@@uncannyvalley2350 tl;dr
I like this guy: he doesn't pull back any punches and he holds no prisoners. He calls it as it is.
Unlike the United States, which holds many, many, prisoners.
hes just a GUTFELD rip off imo
When you have a military budget like you're still at war, war is what you get.
when you have a hammer...
@@MrTaxiRob when you have **several** cabinets of hammers but they're actually contractors
Those bombs we pay billions of dollars for aren't going to drop themselves!
Great point.
Reminds me of the build up to WWI. And now.
Fun fact: even in 2006 post-9/11 nationalism was still so rampant that the terrible not-so-good film 'World Trade Centre' starring somehow famous actor Nicolas Cage almost earned three times its budget at the box office
People really liked seeing Cage playing a heroic firefighter risking his own life to save Americans from a burning World Trade Centre
These people were so patriotic they were willing to spend money to show their support for American firefighters and then continued not being patriotic enough to elect politicians that would be willing to pay for the medical bills actual firefighters had to pay for getting cancer for actually saving people from the actual World Trade Centre
This is what I think about when I think of right-wing populism
"Well, Baby-O, it's not exactly mai-thais and yatzee out here but... let's do it!"
I remember that movie. Still haven't seen it.
you misunderstand right wing populism if you think Bush is at all like them. Bush is like Obama to right wing populists.
@@MicahMicahel right-wing populism has been an important part of the Republican party ever since Goldwater and has been dominant at least since Ronald Reagan. Although they weren't as openly fascist as they are today we all know what they meant with 'inner-city crime' and 'welfare queens': surpress black people. They all got elected with the support of right-wing extremists including the soldiers waving Confederate flags in Vietnam in the 60s and 70s and the militias that fought proxy-wars against foreigners in Central America during the 80s (many of these people also joined the Klan, different borderwatch groups and other extremist right-wing organisations). Bush was also heavily supported by right-wing evangelicals who became increasingly active in politics ever since the succes of Franklin D. Roosevelt who many evangelicals saw as the antichrist because he supported welfare programs. This group was already a main ingredient of the Republican party by 2000. These are the same flag-waving idiots that now support QAnon.
These were the types of people Bush courted with his folksy Sarah Palin-like sayings which allowed him to win the primary against the more moderate Republican McCain.
Yes Bush was a neocon who flirted with fascist elements to gain their support instead of going full on Trump-style fascist but he was still a right-wing populist even if America collectively tends to forget how horrible he was and focus instead on the cute little paintings he makes now. Just because right-wing populists denounce Bush now and try to pretend they never supported the war in Afghanistan doesn't mean they didn't support him 20-10 years ago.
Listen... if I was in a thousand movies and spoke my lines at a random volume, I'd probably win an Oscar too...
for "who isn't to blame" I was expecting Warmbo to pop up and say, "MMMMWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!"
I wish the handful of conservatives in my life had the attention span that would make it worth my while to share your videos with them. You deserve all the millions of subscribers that you do not yet have. Keep up the amazing work, but take care of yourself Cody. ❤️
There will probably be a short of the Bush rejecting the offer soon.
They make goldfish look like geniuses and I hate dealing with it
Not just conservatives, everyone who participates in their government.
Magas have the attention span of a meme.
Haha 54min video? Even at 1.25x speed?
You crazy.
Why do you even care about them?
The “What Hell of a Way to Die” podcast had some very interesting observations from their experiences with the Afghan army while they were deployed. Something that’s important to recognize is that large portions of the Afghan military haven’t been paid in at least three months if not longer, the taliban didn’t take prisoners so if you were captured you were executed, and the taliban gave the people in the military the decision to either fight with no ammo, supplies, and in some instances shoes; or surrender, live, and have a job that will actually pay them.
That's a no brainer should have had the army
Don't be using Cody's sacred space to push other channels.
Maybe the afghan "president" should have paid the soldiers with the $150 million of our money he fled with.
@@midnightrambler8866 the officers commanding the troops were taking the money. The process to distributing pay was similar to the US’s before direct deposit where specific people in the chain of command would distribute pay directly to soldiers. You can see where there may have been some problems with this. I’m not the most well versed on this topic, but I would recommend the podcast episode. They have a lot more knowledge of the situation than I do.
That's not entirely true; the Taliban did take prisoners, and towards the end were giving Afghan prisoners $600 to leave and go home to their families, making fighting them even less appealing.
FACT CHECK: The smoking age was raise to 21 last year, so the war cannot legally purchase cigarettes.
"If a battle can not be won, do not fight it" - Sun Tzu
I'm from NYC. I was a college sophmore when 9/11 happened. When I went home in October, I walked around the trade center area. There was still ash on the ground, a month after 9/11. On one windshield, in the ash, someone wrote "bomb them all." That scared the heck out of me. Not as scared as I was on 9/11, but more scared than I had been aside from that day in a very long time.
And the irony is we did just that. We ran out of bombs last year, more than 20,000 in more than a dozen country's. No healthcare no affordable college no renewable infistructure revolution, no well no reinventing of a spoiling empire.
I was in elementary school when 9/11 happened. It probably wasn't until last year that I was able to actually realize that our response since then was so irresponsible and largely disconnected to what actually happened. Growing up in that environment I think really warped my world view; for most of my life, it just seemed natural that a terrorist attack somehow justified occupying another nation, ignoring civil liberties, drone strikes, and torture. I'm ashamed it took me so long to challenge that world view, and I'm sad there weren't more people in my life to help me challenge it.
@@stephenlewis3047 I think that is really what defines the Zoomer generation. Before they started settling on a name, I called them the terror generation, which I have come to think is best demarcated as from 2000 to 2020, basically from just before 9/11 up until the pandemic.
You're technically older than that, a young millenial. But I'm also technically a member of Gen X, but really, my experiences are much more like an older millennial than a gen xer.
I felt the same way when Biden said the "we will not forgive..." line...
@@Sam_on_UA-cam as part of gen Z, I was only a few months old when 9/11 happened and my entire childhood was framed by terror attacks - the Manchester bombing happened when i was doing my GCSEs. This is the first time in my lifetime (that I remember) that we haven’t been at war in Afghanistan. We used to get little warnings in school about how to react in a terror attack and these warnings/attacks became so commonplace that me and my friends became desensitised to hearing of terrorist attacks on the news.
The part about conservatives using this as a "victory lap" is perfect. These people are gleefully using this slam Biden, and they can't contain their excitement. Also, that Gutfeld bit was painful to watch. That was one of the worst attempts at comedy I've ever seen.
Conservatives are naturally bad at comedy. All they know is hate, which only makes other conservatives laugh.
@@VladiMatt I think Biden found his new ambassador to DPRK tho
Attempts at comedy is not comedy.
@@VladiMatt "Conservatives are naturally bad at comedy."
I don't think conservatives are the ones trying to shut down comedians because a 10 years old joke.
@@josephanglada4785 The twitter mob is about as good a representation of any political spectrum as "Which Power Ranger are you?" quizzes are of your personality.
I love that no matter what depths of insanity Cody falls into he still gets paid for sponsorships
McCarthy's "Those we've made promises to" is not referring to our Afghanistan allies and interpreters, he's talking about the Private Military Groups and weapons suppliers that want conflict to continue.
I really appreciate the timeline in reference to Ethan Hawke movies. Reminds me that I'm in my 30s and therefore almost dead.
Please don't remind me. I see 40 right around the corner...
Don’t worry, the world is also almost dead. We’re all on our way as a team
@@alexruddies1718 Have you picked out your coffin yet?
@@Usernameping Truuuth
46 and feel healthier and younger than I did in my 30s
Today I've been going through "It Could Happen Here" podcast episodes and decided to take a brief break to catch the latest Some More News! I've never been so well-informed and deeply depressed! And oily, for some reason?
Weird, I did the same today.
I know it feels like I have oil all over 😒
Plenty of oily goodness I could catch fire!
Check out the Revolution now podcast by Peter Joseph.
It could happen here is both depressing and motivating.
This show makes so much sense it’s got me paranoid about confirmation bias.
Keep calling this shit out. Keep up the good work.
Something I wanted to mention, especially for people of Cody's generation (older millennial?). I was 12 when 9/11 happened. Just because I was younger doesn't mean it impacted me any less. I came of political awareness during the Bush years in a conservative town with liberal parents. The twin towers falling scarred me and everyone else who saw it. It was even scarier because I was so young. So when teenagers were celebrating when Osama Bin Laden died, it's a testament to the fearmongering and the way it changed the political climate.
Though, to be clear, I was against both the Afghanistan and Iraq war, young as I was. Watching Bush's administration lie so openly and the media eat it up made me realize, "Oh, the U.S. government is corrupt and war mongering." I also didn't celebrate when Osama Bin Laden died because I thought it was weird to celebrate the death of a person. Reading the Afghanistan papers was shocking, especially for someone who once saw Obama's administration through rose colored glasses. Immoral, unethical, rascist, corrupt. It was a clusterfuck of death and corruption from the start.
Now take it a step further Grace and understand, the G.W.Bush administration formed a think tank in '97 called P.N.A.C that published a policy report in '99 titled "Rebuilding American Defenses" that called for invasive wars in 7 countries to maintain u.s. global hegemony but stated that outside of "another Pearl Harbor type attack on America" there would be no public support for these wars.
Then in 2000 there was a fake ballot scandal in Florida where G.W.s brother Jeb was the governor and G.W.s team claimed victory because when Congress asked the President of the Senate to make a ruling for an investigation he repeatedly rejected the proposal, the Senate President is the current Vice President of the u.s. so the man who rejected that investigation was Al Gore and 1 year, 9 months &, 11 days later that think tank who was now running the country got there attack on America but that was actually the second time people tried to blow the WTC while a Bush was president.
That whole incident was staged & executed by those people with the assistance of some Mossad agents (who were actually arrested for being across the river from the WTC having set up to professionally film the event, they set up before it happened and we're dancing & celebrating when the buildings collapsed which is why someone called the cops on them), many others were involved as well and the motive for it all is quite simple to understand-
These people and organizations made BILLIONS & BILLIONS of dollars in personal profits or were granted sweeping new political powers & authority so vast in scope the only thing that can be compared to it was the kind of power Eisenhower had as the Supreme Allied Commander in WWII.
You don't really think a guy in a cave in the Himalayan mountains was able to so perfectly negate NOR.A.D. that day you?
NORth american Aerospace Defense command the military unit that centralizes all radar & satellite defense of America, they are in the military base inside a mountain that you see in movies & tv shows, it's a real base and they maintain & control interceptor fighter-jets all of the country. They had 66 incidents that called for scramble in just 2000 with a 100% successful intercept rate, in fact they have only 4 failures and they all happened on the same day that all the pilots had been sent out on a training exercise about terrorists hijacking airplanes to fly into buildings and they had all been ordered to maintain radio silence...... Also, NORAD had a new commander for just that 1 day who wasn't even in the military, his name was Dick Cheney- 🤯, like ain't that some shit!
Generations (other than in the biological sense) are utter nonsense. No better than star signs. That said, the same events tend to affect people differently depending upon you age when they happen. Hence the term formative experience. But at the end of the day, there are other factors that will affect your experience, probably more so, such as race, social class, etc.
Would you cheer at trumps funeral
Sounds like Western society in general now.
It takes twice as long for a society to collapse as it does to rise.
The post-presidental prison sentence is an absolutely phenomenal idea! Call your congressmen. Let's make it happen.
I don't know if this is true or not but I heard in Greece back in the day civilians were randomly tapped to service in office. This way there could be no campaigning & corruption could be minimized due to Power not knowing whose palms to grease until _at least_ after they'd already been selected.
@@doktormcnasty Things like that have certainly been attempted, though I don't think anywhere near the scale of modern countries (populations in the millions).
Also, it has its own failure mode: You simply grease the palms of the people who are doing the selection. Make it not quite as "random" as its purported to be. Not quite as effective as just buying politicians directly, but effective enough to undermine the system.
Would never happen, as is not happening now, bush just go around saludating old friends
When you are a corrupt president you are in All the illegal dies, so WHO GONNA SEND YOU AND THEMSELVES TO PRISON!?
Thank you for the warning--I've already had one seizure today. I wish everyone was that thoughtful.
I remember vividly, the day after 9/11, George Bush jumping on TV and verbally writing a blank check of war on anyone and everyone they could label terrorists.
The responses by liberals has been just as disheartening, with an absolutely callous "the Afghans won't even fight for their own country, so why should we?" Like, yes, we should've absolutely pulled out of the country, but are you also going to pull out whatever shred of empathy you had for these people who have been occupied for 20 years, had their reconstruction completely mismanaged and falsely reported by the US military intelligence, and left with rotting potatoes and military training that doesn't work without the infrastructure they were trained in? You're wondering why they didn't feel like fighting?
Neither side cared about Afghanistan before 9/11. I can't imagine either side would care now.
I mean, these are the same liberals who can barely contain their giddy excitement at the Texas abortion ban. They have no actual values.
A political development that costs them nothing and puts their only value proposition ("we're somewhat less cruel domestically than the Republicans") in focus? Democratic loyalists are just as happy as Republican ones to watch the world burn if it scores them partisan hackery points.
@@HeadsFullOfEyeballs
Lol, trying to pull a both sides argument after insulting one side.
Hypocrite.
Think about it, the US is the toxic boyfriends who just salute the rapist will going out the door.
This much ineptitud isn't casual, but intentional, been 3 GOVERMENTS since people wanted out, NOW THEY WANT BACK IN!
You need to catch up on this things or live abuse and exploit all your life
Well, they clearly want the Taliban in charge, and we shouldn't have to send our young men to die for the rights of those who do not want them
Cody is brilliant in this episode and his team's method of communicating with the laymen is spot on. It's a roller coaster of serious topics dealt to us in entertaining ways
With ZERO solutions
@@uncannyvalley2350 because that's not the premise of the channel? It's called some more news, not some more solutions
Do you also watch news on TV of a fire for example then complained CNN don't tell you how to solve the fire?
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@@uncannyvalley2350 And also he did mention how you can help at the end of the video
@@MesaAufenhand omg, *LAME* stick to laughing at the people you bombed for 20 years and still can't say why
@@uncannyvalley2350 the episode is about the people responsible for the 20 years occupation
Any laughter contained is rightfully uncomfortable
Did you even watch the episode?
Also he did tell you how to help the Afghanistan refugees within your means as an individual
“This was supposed to be a fun one.” It is both ALWAYS a fun one and NEVER a fun one. Love it and those glasses Cody.
As someone who was born in 2003, and honestly had no idea what the Afganistan war was even about, I'm actually really thankful you properly and thoroughly explained it. God knows no school made such an attempt, like, even at all. Never. Not once. Even mentioned.
most of the way thru the video when it suddenly goes private... "the man" trying to shut down some more news. RIOT! Oh, its being re uploaded. YAY Thanks!
BUT WHAT WAS TAKEN OUT!
@@JaydragonM actually seems to be the flashing light thing...
@@andrewbenbow9257 yeah
Egg by egg
@@johnwilliams8433 love your music btw...
46:34 But what about Michael Moore? His antiwar acceptance speech was just as baller as Barbara Lee's attempted appeal to take a step back and think things through.
After the Afghanistan Papers came out, did the people and the press really expect the military to conduct a smooth exit? These are the same guys who've been putting their shoes on before their socks for two decades now. Also - rest in piss Rumsfeld.
For my money, the finest Some More News that has ever been newsed. Hilarious, sad, thoughtful, sobering, and it pulls no punches for any and everyone that deserves them.
Anyone else remember when the media was asking why mercenaries didn't get the GI Bill or services at the VA or survivors' benefits? Not in the sense of "oh hey we shouldn't have mercenaries there" but "oh no, look at all these poor hitmen's families who aren't getting paid"
Source please, I want a good kick in the chest to go down this rabbit hole
I don't.
Could you source that. Because the PMC's get paid really well and never need to worry about not having medical care
Remember when blacks didn't have access to the G.I. Bill, and whites ate everyone's lunches for a few decades as a direct result?
@@Virjunior01 Yeah I remember that, you guys get your GI bill yet or is it still just white veterans that get acknowledged
Only made it halfway before the video got taken down and now I'm only half informed and entertained.
Back up, in case youre interested
@@prishawarikoo7439 thanks - luckily I got to watch it last night before bed and now I'm just kind of sad
9:41-10:03: This part stood out to me because as things unfolded in Afghanistan I remember people using that "It fell apart in 3 weeks" but once I heard this part, I was also thinking to myself, "Well, it could fall apart in a flash after 20 years building something stable, was it really stable to begin with?"
Has to mention the collapse of the USSR
"God this sucks already"
Welcome to the club, comrade
Dam you're just what mainstream media is missing. This is how the "both sides" conversations should go. Thanks again for your honest unbiased reporting, keep up the good work bro!
Cody, unbiased reporting?
L. O. L.
@@BlazingOwnager Cody rips on both sides. It's not his fault the right is more repugnant and gets a verbal lashing because of it.
Fair and balanced TM, CR
@@BlazingOwnager unbiased doesn't mean pretending both sides are equally bad, where did this idea come from? Facts don't care about your feelings.
@@MrGamelover23 thanks ben
Mr. Cody: _points at pic of GWB_ Remember this guy?
Me: Oh, this is gonna be one of those ones where I yell at my computer monitor a lot isn't it?
While I've only seen clips of Gutfeld, he's very opaquely trying to do a Stephen Colbert.
And during that 20 year American literacy went down 30% and birth death rates went up.
"We spent 20 years building that bridge just for you to break it in the first day driving across it, so much wasted effort and it's all your fault!"
THE BOARS CANNOT PREVENT THE NEWSDUDE FROM PUTTING THIS VIDEO OUT
A master class in receipt keeping on a topic with virtually none. Thank you for heavy lifting.
When I was 7, I wrote a very short, very bad letter to this nice smiley man I'd seen on TV running for president telling him he had my vote. I asked my mom to mail it, and she almost hit me, she was so disappointed. I still remember the arguing in my Catholic family about whether or not Afghanistan could be considered a just/justifiable war, and I remember all of the massive (or at least, what felt massive to my smol world) protests against Afghanistan and, later, Iraq.
The utter failure of those protests to stop, end, or in any way alter the warmongering course of the US 1,000% has informed my view of politics and the government since. It was the first time the country felt like I was trapped in that burning, runaway train from the all-time best (non)Disney movie _Anastasia_ - that feeling hasn't changed one bit in the last 20 years.
I can't wait to see more of the News Babadook. Love that guy. Hope he's in every episode from now on, and that he and Warmbo have a rivalry/love triangle story arc that stretches through to at least the end of this year.
it the news babadook a nod to bobby duke, star of the channel from scaredy cats?
@@JuiciferPandoraRex That was my thought too! We know Cody watches Thought Slime from a brief clip in an earlier video
I remember protesting the US deployment to Afghsnistan it's worked out worse than even we thought it would when we were bright eyed optimists back then. Now you're seeing the effects of twenty years of "us and them" with some in the USA looking more like the people they claim to be at war with. So convoys of armed people in pickups with flags driving around imtidating people, street violence against their opposition, storming the elected government on urging of their leaders. It's heart breaking.
Don't forget taking away women's rights
This was an incredible piece of journalism. I'm genuinely impressed. Some of the best stuff I've ever seen on UA-cam
My mother refuses to believe the Taliban offered us Osama Bin Laden, because she didn't here about it. Despite many news things saying they the Taliban did
Well I mean makes sense someone wouldn’t hear abt it given the rabid way we were all acting. But just cuz u didn’t hear abt it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen hahaha that’s wild
The Taliban "enduring freedom" joke was truly top-notch.
Yeah, laughing at 20 years of systemic genocide and still refusing to talk about the hard truths is hilarious 🤣
@@uncannyvalley2350 I don't think the literal Nazi gets to complain about supposed "laughing at genocide."
@@uncannyvalley2350 do those “hard truths” involve reptilians, by any chance?
@@peterprime2140 nah bro, I support the free people of the Communist Nation of Palestine. But tell us again how a right wing apartheid ethnostate engaged in genocide is a legitimate basis for a country, seeing as you're the authority on fascism?
@@uncannyvalley2350 Go home, you're drunk.
Confirmed: Cody watches Thought Slime
Or, at least, Scaredy Cats
Excellent choice. I would be delighted by a crossover 😂
Bobby Duke spinning off into news punditry
Are you male or female?
Props to this showdy for continuing to point out the troubling nature of the phrase, "screw the pooch."
I love laughing maniacally while being blasted with truth-bombs that would otherwise make me cry.
Reporting such horrors and injustices while maintaining this level of humor is a marvelous talent, thanks for this!
Gotta love that forced partisan laughter at Gutfeld's "jokes"
Cody, as hilarious as you are, you can't make this stuff not depressing, its all very disheartening.
A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.
@@Purpleturtlehurtler Still tastes like shit tho
@@rusty__shackleford Still gotta take it...
I mean, if he made us feel fine about it that would be doing humanity a horrible disservice.
Sounds like somebody does not want to admit that our previous president wouldn’t have turned the whole thing into a complete failure. Instead he resorts to calling Trump a big dummy idiot. Great content you got here.
I appreciate your perspective! As a Iraq and Afghanistan veteran I saw the past 20 years as an opportunity to grow in my engineering skills, gain rank and experience and support a succeasful career in uniform. But at the same time I saw the waste in a lot of spending, I saw the struggles with the Afghan Army, and I also saw that we were just "maintaining" the battle and not working towards and end. It sucked then and I hate seeing work and money go to waste today. We just had the wrong people making big decisions for the wrong reasons.
Keep up the awesome work, Team SomeMoreNews!!
We love you, Cody and the Showdy Team! You keep us informed and you keep us sane!
Dude, I've been saying it all along, we're just reliving the 60s and 70s, only they're legalizing the weed and we have the *internet* now. Same stupid pointless war. Are we going to be like this when we're that age?
Probably not, the biggest problem is the fact that almost all of the people that were in charge then are still in charge now. Things will continue to suck untill all the old timers are out of office
@Aleks J More like the "Communism good, maybe China's not so bad" brain disease.
@Aleks J I will accept that there are some amongst my generation that are brainwashed but at least of the people my age that I know almost all of them do not believe in "American Exceptionalism" and most have a very negative view of America as a whole.
can't remember the government going fascist demanding virus passports and demanding people give up bodily autonomy.
@@BlazingOwnager I don't know many young people that like China especially after what they did in Hong Kong, I'm going to guess (correct me if I'm wrong) you are one of the people tricked into thinking that Communism and Socialism are the same thing.
Will be rewatching for homeschool times seriously great for my 12 year old to watch. You did a great job of contextualizing the national mood around 9/11. I was younger than my son is now when that happened.
Thanks for your work SMN team 💕
Great work. I remember being in high school and protesting the Afghanistan war after the Taliban offered to turn over Bin Laden. My homeroom teacher tried to get me suspended. It was the first time I learned about the ACLU. I told my principal that I got a number for them and my troubles vanished.
That's a crappy thing for the school to suspend a student for. Thank goodness for the ACLU. However, the Taliban were never going to turn over Bin Laden. Here is a quote from Mullah Omar on that very issue, I suggest you research it:
VOA: So you won't give Osama bin Laden up?
Omar: No. We cannot do that. If we did, it means we are not Muslims... that Islam is finished. If we were afraid of attack, we could have surrendered him the last time we were threatened and attacked. So America can hit us again, and this time we don't even have a friend.
Very informative. Thanks Cody and writers
Gutfeld does the worst Bill Maher impersonation I've ever seen.
Even the laugh track was kind of pitiful.
His Bill Maher impersonation is almost as bad as Bill Maher's Bill Maher impersonation
**comedian impersonation
@@xjdfghashzkj True. It's amazing how contradictory Maher can be, too.
@@akilo5091 I've never actually heard of him until now, to be honest.
Somehow he always manages to present news that would normally make me want to sob and he makes me laugh a little on the way
Thank you Cody. Sometimes I try to explain this to people, but it's way too much information for me to present coherently. I'm glad we have the CodyShowdy.
Cody mentions 'First Reformed'
Me: "I've never heard of this movie in my life"
Lol me too 😊
"It feels like my entire soul is bleeding" Well, it has been for at least 20 years.
Odd all them 9-1-1 truthers aren't all up on the waste of lives and money that was/is Afghanistan. Really odd.
SIGAR, anyone in politcal leadership? Nope? No one? That's odd too.
As a fan with epilepsy, thank you so much for the warning! For anyone else with photosensitivity the flashing lights at the beginning end at 1:42
The best news source out there... thanks Cody-Showdy
Great episode !!
The civilian Afghan death toll is SEVERELY undercounted
And the $2 Trillion number is way undercounted as well
Ball park
@@reed510 when you start having "ballpark" numbers with numbers that are so high, they're no longer really "ballpark" anymore. More like "airfield" or " an entire continental jurisdiction" 😂
Yeah it’s estimated to be around 160,000 people iirc
I believe its confirmed deaths. It's hard to count whether a body gets burnt to a crisp or dismembered from a bomb especially considering it's a developing nation they dont even have a proper census or detailed public health records.
Many more people died, like you said.
In situations like this there's always plenty of blame to go around.
Thank you for adding the warning at the start :)
Glorious recap of the last 4 decades. Bravo to the team for the work.
I feel like you're gaslighting me with this video. Keeping it just out of arms reach as I try to watch it.
He does present the answer to the question though. 46:06
Not to out myself as a Gen-Z, but I was born a month after 9/11 and as someone politically involved it's so wild and insane to look back at the 90s/early 2000s and see just how willing everyone at the time was to go into this war, while I've grown up knowing it as nothing but a failure.
My mom talks about watching the trials while she was 8 months pregnant with me, and couldn't believe that everyone around her supported us going to Iraq and Afghanistan, but that's just because she was one of the few people actually paying attention. Ugh
I flipping LOVE SMN! New find been watching all of them. All reasonable arguments. I've taught my son we live in an oligarchy years ago, finally found my channel
Thank you for making this video 👍
Yah, Ted Cruz is right, Trump would have never just pulled support out of a country and left US allies to die... Right Syria?
Bruh I think about those Kurdish fighters we just fucking abandoned all the time.
So do our allies I imagine.
@@piedpiper1172 it sickens me when I think about it.
30:45 dang props to Michael Moore it is unironically brave to be against the Afghanistan genocide sorry war right after 9/11 oh and props to all the other people clapping
Im assuming that privating the video is a bit like future or alternative time line Cody is sabotaging the channel
That’s what the boars want you to think.
Sliding Doors Cody, you say his name!
How do you guys do this and not fall apart? Video had me feeling hopeless. That said, always appreciate you guys and the vids!
amazing work, your humour mixed with informative commentary is top tier!
In all seriousness you help me to stay sane. I am not the only one seeing this! Ya know at this intensity. Based on viewer base we aren't alone even. Day to day experience begs to differ so it is nice to know
“Don’t we miss him…? BYE!”
Listening to that was painful…
I honestly don't know what I would do without you Cody. The research that goes into each show and the snide delivery is refreshing and comforting.
Around the 37 minute mark, Cody reminded me of the concept of the Aztec "Sun King," where someone gets to be king for a year, everything they say goes, but at the end of that year, the Sun King is brought to the top of a pyramid where his heart is cut out and offered to the gods
That sounds like New Vegas' Vault 11
We should of never been there in the first place so blame Regan
*have
As The Grand Archpriest of The Church of the Algorithm, I bless this video with a comment.
Cody imma be real with you. I appreciate all you do. This episode depresses me just a bit too much. I’ll come back to it tomorrow. Or maybe next week. I can’t do it all at once.
Thanks for the news and explanations
Ok so I literally always think about that fn SNL sketch whenever anyone mentions Kandahar. The strangeness of it burned into my my mind and has been there for over 20 years.
coincidentally, perpetual war - the war economy - is also a basic tenet of fascism
As is allying with the most reactionary and counter-revolutionary forces in the world to stop communism. Big thing for fascists
So that would make both parties fascist wouldn't it? I mean, try to question any of it outside the kosher bits and lefties still lose their damn minds. The hypocrisy is real, but the virtue signalling is strong
It's not fascism that does that. It's Authoritarianism. You can have a forever war with nazis or commies, or really, any political system even those that existed well before either of them.
@@uncannyvalley2350 Yup
@@BlazingOwnager nailed it, always said it was authoritarianism, we need a Direct Democracy without Politicians and Parties if we ever want to get anything done
Thanks for all the links. The best part of the video. Good job outlining the history. A friend posted your video. You’re not my style but good info.
Every single President and conservative American since Reagan
And liberal