Hey Dan, I just wanted to express how much we all appreciate your efforts. You have been working really hard to put out content lately on almost a daily basis, and it's really great!! Many of us find ourselves sitting at home, so watching your videos makes this whole social distancing thing easier to take. Cheers. ;)
Split unions on the F1 actuator pipes are a known thing with these cars. Usually once they're fixed they stay fixed which suggests to me that the torque setting originally used at the factory may have been wrong, or the materials were over-stressed for this application.
Pushing out loads of entertaining vids at the moment, almost as if you were stuck at home or something........!!!!!. Very clean underneath the project car I must say, great vid very interesting. 👍👍🇺🇲🇬🇧
Just changed my F-1 fluid and flushed the system replaced w/ Royal Purple Max EZ PS fluid and it does shift faster and smoother now ! I asked my Ferrari tech about what you said and he says he disconects the return hose at the reservoir and by using the factory Leonardo ( or other as you did ) ,computer program , it is possible to get like 90% of the fluid changed w/ out removing the actuator , opening the bleeders . so , I said "It sounds similar to an oil change where we do not routinely drain the oil cooler(s) etc ." He agreed , said it is about 1.5 hrs labor to change fluid .he says you will waste a liter +or so of fluid cycling thru the system .Ferrari tech says the filter in the reservoir @ the bottom is NOT replaceable you just get a new reservoir if bad / dirty ! Spoke w/ a petroleum engineer he said we should use Royal Purple Max EZ PS fluid ( similar to CHF11s ) in lieu of ATF . ( Both are hydraulic fluids and not that far different ! ) The petroleum engineer said he recommended it due to the synterlec proprietary additives, ( A friction reducer ) .and it has a good balance between type 4 and 5 hydraulic fluid ( one type shrinks seals and the other swells them !) so will not harm seals .or the hydraulic accumulator! BTW our Indie Ferrari tech says you need to CK the fluid level after the fluid has drained back out of the hydraulic accumulator and that takes all night ! ( and do it before you turn on the pump ! so leave the back hatch open so you do not need to open the door to trip the motor compartment latch ! AND recall, the door opening cycles the pump too so DON'T open the door ! ) it should be about 10mm below the top of the bottom of the opening ( base of the filler neck ) DO NOT overfill or you will make a horrible mess Tech says ! Royal Purple ! Good Ol' USA American Texas oil Co. technology! LOL 🙂🙂 Warning sounds like an ad ! LOL " Royal Purple's Max EZ is created to improve the life and performance of all power steering units. This innovative power steering fluid = ( equivalent to ATF , BTW ! ) is made as a perfect combination of selected synthetic base oils plus Royal Purple's proprietary Synerlec additive technology. Royal Purple's Max EZ significantly increases both pump life and fluid life. Superior wear and corrosion protection is guaranteed as well. Max EZ is non-foaming and features high temperature service capability."
Dan, you bled the clutch circuit only. To do this properly you need to bleed the selector actuator as well. That’s where most of the fluid sits (unfortunately harder to do as you need to remove the actuator from the transaxle to open the bleeders). Also, you should be changing the filter on the output of the reservoir. Finally that ATF isn’t the best choice of fluid. I recommend using CHF11S.
I asked my tech about that, what you said and he says he disconects the return hose at the reservoir and by using the computer program , it is possible to get like 90% of the fluid changed w/ out removing the actuator , opening the bleeders . so , I said it sounds similar to an oil change where we do not routinely drain the oil cooler(s) etc . he agreed , said it is about 1.5 hrs labor to change fluid .he says you will waste a liter or so of fluid cycling thru the system . comment ? thx PS is CHF 11s synthetic ? ( yes i found out ) it sounds familiar to some fluid used in the Saab cars I own . and the tech says the filter in the reservoir @ the bottom is NOT replaceable you just get a new reservoir if bad / dirty ? if whats indicated is ATF ? we like mobile 1 and our fav is royal purple brand . in fact spoke w/ a petroleum engineer @ royal Purple, IN Texas today and he said we should use Royal Purple Max EZ PS fluid ( similar to CHF11s ) in lieu of ATF . ( Both are hydraulic fluids and not that far different ! ) special transmission oils were not made until 1948 ! Warning sounds like an ad ! LOL " Royal Purple's Max EZ is created to improve the life and performance of all power steering units. This innovative power steering fluid is made as a perfect combination of selected synthetic base oils plus Royal Purple's proprietary Synerlec additive technology. Royal Purple's Max EZ significantly increases both pump life and fluid life. Superior wear and corrosion protection is guaranteed as well. Max EZ is non-foaming and features high temperature service capability."
Just did my smg motor in my 07 M6, such a similar system but I’m looking to see the mechanical differences, before I did my motor it would come on every time I opened the door, 1st time for about 7 secs and once about every 3 mins or so after fairly quickly, now it doesn’t come on even after hrs of sitting, the new fluid helped as well. Interesting F1 doesn’t require a super specific fluid as smg needs Ch11s. Also cool how you have a reservoir accessible, mine is near the tranny 😕 great video!
Dan thanks for keeping us entertained with your great vids. Is there a fill line or mark so you know when the F1 reservoir is full or do you just fill it to the top?
Bravo from Italy! Great video, as always. Very interesting to see how far you have come working and wrenching on these Ferraris, very similar to #ratarossa in the UK. I did the same on our Ferrari 612 Scaglietti F1 I use for business and for guests on our Italian holiday adventures not long ago and it was fun. Would have been nice to see you run through all the gears and measure the clutch like you did some time ago with your friend Mr. Josh Hill and his laptop running the Texa software. Good luck on the sale and I am sure you will make the buyer a happy guy or girl! Leonardo
Hey Dan, I have some Shell Donax TA fluid left over from when I changed the F1 fluid in my 360. Do you have any idea if I can use it in my 430 to top off the reservoir? My F1 fluid is bottomed out after I run a prime cycle just by turning the key on and a few weeks ago it would not shift into gear till I turned the car off and back on. Its just low.
@@normalguysupercar Is 550 and 355 possible with your Launch with the Fiat adapters, because no OBD II? I have a 550 and F355 rebuilt with 512tr engine and can only work with a Foxwell scanner and only Live Data OBD. No ABS noch Chassis, Airbag....All this is very important for all Ferrari owners which repair byself. So some good video ideas...
puo' verificarsi che la spia del cambio lampaggia perchè c'è presenza di aria ? si è verificato dopo che ho cambiato pompa f1 cambio e non ho effettuato alcuno spurgo.
Dan, my actuator had to be removed and rebuilt. Just got it back and my mechanic says we will bleed from the ports on the rear of the actuator body. Is there more than 1 way to bleed the F1 system? Ofcourse i had to remove all the f1 hoses to the actuator to ship it off.
@@normalguysupercar darn thanks for the reply at least! I figured out other reasons why my car won’t go into gear anyway. The clutch actuator is leaking a lot 😳😳😳
Dan, how is it in the 599 GTB or is there a fluid replacement procedure? How with access can you tell me how to go about it and what kind of liquid do you recommend? The manual includes the Shell DONAX TX 1l. Regards
@@normalguysupercar I do not have one in the matter of the F1 system you have any experience, suggestions, I will be grateful. Maybe this is a good topic for another movie: D
Hey Dan, I just wanted to express how much we all appreciate your efforts. You have been working really hard to put out content lately on almost a daily basis, and it's really great!! Many of us find ourselves sitting at home, so watching your videos makes this whole social distancing thing easier to take. Cheers. ;)
I appreciate that!
Split unions on the F1 actuator pipes are a known thing with these cars. Usually once they're fixed they stay fixed which suggests to me that the torque setting originally used at the factory may have been wrong, or the materials were over-stressed for this application.
Dan you need to offer Red personalized coveralls
Pushing out loads of entertaining vids at the moment, almost as if you were stuck at home or something........!!!!!. Very clean underneath the project car I must say, great vid very interesting. 👍👍🇺🇲🇬🇧
THX for doin' F430 DIY again !
You're welcome
Dan, great instructional vid.
Great info !! I always thought the initial pump noise was from the fuel pump, and not the F1 transmission pump....thanks for clarifying this...
Just changed my F-1 fluid and flushed the system replaced w/ Royal Purple Max EZ PS fluid and it does shift faster and smoother now !
I asked my Ferrari tech about what you said and he says he disconects the return hose at the reservoir and by using the factory Leonardo ( or other as you did ) ,computer program , it is possible to get like 90% of the fluid changed w/ out removing the actuator , opening the bleeders . so , I said "It sounds similar to an oil change where we do not routinely drain the oil cooler(s) etc ." He agreed ,
said it is about 1.5 hrs labor to change fluid .he says you will waste a liter +or so of fluid cycling thru the system .Ferrari tech says the filter in the reservoir @ the bottom is NOT replaceable you just get a new reservoir if bad / dirty !
Spoke w/ a petroleum engineer he said we should use Royal Purple Max EZ PS fluid ( similar to CHF11s ) in lieu of ATF . ( Both are hydraulic fluids and not that far different ! )
The petroleum engineer said he recommended it due to the synterlec proprietary additives, ( A friction reducer ) .and it has a good balance between type 4 and 5 hydraulic fluid ( one type shrinks seals and the other swells them !)
so will not harm seals .or the hydraulic accumulator!
BTW our Indie Ferrari tech says you need to CK the fluid level after the fluid has drained back out of the hydraulic accumulator and that takes all night ! ( and do it before you turn on the pump ! so leave the back hatch open so you do not need to open the door to trip the motor compartment latch ! AND recall, the door opening cycles the pump too so DON'T open the door ! ) it should be about 10mm below the top of the bottom of the opening ( base of the filler neck )
DO NOT overfill or you will make a horrible mess Tech says !
Royal Purple ! Good Ol' USA American Texas oil Co. technology! LOL 🙂🙂
Warning sounds like an ad ! LOL
" Royal Purple's Max EZ is created to improve the life and performance of all power steering units. This innovative power steering fluid = ( equivalent to ATF , BTW ! ) is made as a perfect combination of selected synthetic base oils plus Royal Purple's proprietary Synerlec additive technology. Royal Purple's Max EZ significantly increases both pump life and fluid life. Superior wear and corrosion protection is guaranteed as well. Max EZ is non-foaming and features high temperature service capability."
Awesome!
@@normalguysupercar thx !
Actually did this on my 360, very simple job if done right.
Did you use the Launch? If so, what steps. I cannot get my Launch to activate the F1 pump
@@craigmac9455 which Launch you have?
Dan, you bled the clutch circuit only. To do this properly you need to bleed the selector actuator as well. That’s where most of the fluid sits (unfortunately harder to do as you need to remove the actuator from the transaxle to open the bleeders). Also, you should be changing the filter on the output of the reservoir. Finally that ATF isn’t the best choice of fluid. I recommend using CHF11S.
I asked my tech about that, what you said and he says he disconects the return hose at the reservoir and by using the computer program , it is possible to get like 90% of the fluid changed w/ out removing the actuator , opening the bleeders . so , I said it sounds similar to an oil change where we do not routinely drain the oil cooler(s) etc . he agreed , said it is about 1.5 hrs labor to change fluid .he says you will waste a liter or so of fluid cycling thru the system . comment ? thx PS is CHF 11s synthetic ? ( yes i found out ) it sounds familiar to some fluid used in the Saab cars I own . and the tech says the filter in the reservoir @ the bottom is NOT replaceable you just get a new reservoir if bad / dirty ? if whats indicated is ATF ? we like mobile 1 and our fav is royal purple brand .
in fact spoke w/ a petroleum engineer @ royal Purple, IN Texas today and he said we should use Royal Purple Max EZ PS fluid ( similar to CHF11s ) in lieu of ATF . ( Both are hydraulic fluids and not that far different ! ) special transmission oils were not made until 1948 !
Warning sounds like an ad ! LOL
" Royal Purple's Max EZ is created to improve the life and performance of all power steering units. This innovative power steering fluid is made as a perfect combination of selected synthetic base oils plus Royal Purple's proprietary Synerlec additive technology. Royal Purple's Max EZ significantly increases both pump life and fluid life. Superior wear and corrosion protection is guaranteed as well. Max EZ is non-foaming and features high temperature service capability."
Finally bought the new Launch 431. Thanks for the advice Dan. LOVE IT!
You bet!
Nice Job Dan! Man, you might as well open up a garage for fixing F430's. You made that last video on removing the headers look easy.
Dan I always look forward to your videos. They are the absolute best. 😁😁😁
OMG superb video!!! very helpful and well documented
Good job Dan.....
Just did my smg motor in my 07 M6, such a similar system but I’m looking to see the mechanical differences, before I did my motor it would come on every time I opened the door, 1st time for about 7 secs and once about every 3 mins or so after fairly quickly, now it doesn’t come on even after hrs of sitting, the new fluid helped as well. Interesting F1 doesn’t require a super specific fluid as smg needs Ch11s. Also cool how you have a reservoir accessible, mine is near the tranny 😕 great video!
I have the Alfa GT selespeed that runs on the same system
You're getting pretty handy around these cars!
Where was Mo?
Hi,Dan, you and your car work it is amazing. I come from Slovenia and love watching your work on Ferrari cars.
Where is Mo? Have a free workday
Same procedure for the maserati 4200 f1 system?
I wondered what you kept talking about when you guys would say “Hear the F1 pump running”
Hi Dan.
Quick question?
If you bleed the whole system? Is there a filter for the F1 system that needs to be changed?
Dan thanks for keeping us entertained with your great vids. Is there a fill line or mark so you know when the F1 reservoir is full or do you just fill it to the top?
There is a baffle inside the reservoir. Fill it to 3/8” above that baffle.
Great vid Dan, thank you!!
Bravo from Italy! Great video, as always. Very interesting to see how far you have come working and wrenching on these Ferraris, very similar to #ratarossa in the UK. I did the same on our Ferrari 612 Scaglietti F1 I use for business and for guests on our Italian holiday adventures not long ago and it was fun. Would have been nice to see you run through all the gears and measure the clutch like you did some time ago with your friend Mr. Josh Hill and his laptop running the Texa software. Good luck on the sale and I am sure you will make the buyer a happy guy or girl! Leonardo
Great info and how to do!
Does the fluid recirculate at all? So in theory if you replaced the reservoir fluid several times, would it refresh the fluid?
Yes it moves through
Hey Dan, I have some Shell Donax TA fluid left over from when I changed the F1 fluid in my 360. Do you have any idea if I can use it in my 430 to top off the reservoir? My F1 fluid is bottomed out after I run a prime cycle just by turning the key on and a few weeks ago it would not shift into gear till I turned the car off and back on. Its just low.
I believe that's the same stuff it wants
hello my friend, I have the same ferrari trying to bleed, the pump turns on but no oil comes out of the screw. do you know what it could be?
The oil is not supposed to come out of the screws. It will recirculate the oil back into the reservoir
In ferrarichat they wrote that the f1 fluid change affects the shifting lag .Is this fluid affects the shifting lag and fixes the issue ?
The fluid shouldn't, but if there's air in the system that would for certain
Hey Dan, the link to the X461 isn't working anymore. Any recos on which model to buy in 2024?
This is what we have amzn.to/4g85fsL
@@normalguysupercar Good to know. Will still replace all fluid to start (just got car) but will replace reservoir fill often after.
Does the Launch X31 do any diagnostics on the Ferrari 360/430 engine?
Dan, that Launch pooter is really handy, I gotta get one of those!
Yeah it's really impressive for the cost. I should have gotten the bigger one. Lol
@@normalguysupercar which Launch you have now and which bigger Launch would be better?
@@timeckart I have the mini I think. I just think the bigger ones are faster and may have a few more options.
@@normalguysupercar Did your Launch show the camshaft position 360?
@@normalguysupercar Is 550 and 355 possible with your Launch with the Fiat adapters, because no OBD II? I have a 550 and F355 rebuilt with 512tr engine and can only work with a Foxwell scanner and only Live Data OBD. No ABS noch Chassis, Airbag....All this is very important for all Ferrari owners which repair byself. So some good video ideas...
Wish I had enough money to buy the car. Ferrari's are in my future.
Will this launch tool reset the clutch or do the realignment of the clutch
Hey Dan I need to do this on my new to me, 2009 F430. Any other advice, it seems too simple.
puo' verificarsi che la spia del cambio lampaggia perchè c'è presenza di aria ? si è verificato dopo che ho cambiato pompa f1 cambio
e non ho effettuato alcuno spurgo.
I don't think so
Dan, my actuator had to be removed and rebuilt. Just got it back and my mechanic says we will bleed from the ports on the rear of the actuator body. Is there more than 1 way to bleed the F1 system? Ofcourse i had to remove all the f1 hoses to the actuator to ship it off.
Yes there's 2 ports
good afternoon, can you tell me what the oil specification is for the F1 system? Thank you
Shell Spirax S4 ATF HDX or Petornas Tutela CS speed.
Will the 2006 quattroporte with an F1 go into gear when the trunk is ajar?
I don't know
@@normalguysupercar darn thanks for the reply at least! I figured out other reasons why my car won’t go into gear anyway. The clutch actuator is leaking a lot 😳😳😳
Dan, how is it in the 599 GTB or is there a fluid replacement procedure? How with access can you tell me how to go about it and what kind of liquid do you recommend? The manual includes the Shell DONAX TX 1l. Regards
I would check the service manual
@@normalguysupercar I do not have one in the matter of the F1 system you have any experience, suggestions, I will be grateful. Maybe this is a good topic for another movie: D
Can you bleed the actuator by simply cycling opening and closing the door or ignition?
No sir unfortunately not.
Is Launch X431 the only tool you need for the 458 to reset service interval and diagnose other functions?
Well it can do those things and more but it's not fully featured to do all things
Wondering where you got your SD3 and how much, looking for a cheap one. Just trying to install an accumulator then bleed it
I don't have a sd3. I have a launch x431
oh ok, thanks for the quick response. Any suggestions where to buy?
Do you know where it is located on 09 granturismo f1? Thanks
Where what is located?
@@normalguysupercar the f1 resevoir
@@normalguysupercar do you have any independant mechanics you can recommend in central or western Florida to work on my f1 system?
What fluid does it use??
It's basically atf
I will never not giggle at 'dongle'
HELLO CAN I USE LAUNCH X431 ON A FERRARI 458
Yes
Great I have 2 days to win the lotto
Bliederhosen!
Why does your car only show 15,900 miles?
Cause that's what was on it?
where's Mo???