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  • Reacting to Yes' song Machine Messiah!
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  • @markdrechsler5660
    @markdrechsler5660 2 роки тому +41

    It’s the other way around, Yes influenced Rush. By the time (1974) that Rush was releasing their debut album, Yes were releasing “Relayer,” their seventh studio album, and playing packed stadiums. Geddy Lee has recounted the story of hearing Yes’ second album, “Time and a Word,” and the deep impact that Chris Squire’s bass playing had on him.
    All of the Drama album is worth a listen.

    • @stantheman9072
      @stantheman9072 2 роки тому +3

      True, Yes came first. Geddy clearly acknowledged the influence and inspiration they had on him. By the time of this album however, Rush had been blazing its trails so this new Yes lineup no doubt had heard Toronto’s greatest and maybe that did influence them in some ways. Who knows? Everyone learns from everyone else anyhow. As Isaac Newtown is reported to have said, “If I see further than others, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.”

  • @stantheman9072
    @stantheman9072 2 роки тому +26

    One of their unique lineups and more underrated albums. Tempus Fugit is phenomenal!

    • @russell-eliot-dale
      @russell-eliot-dale Рік тому +1

      :) I could live without "Man in a White Car", but "Tempus Fugit" is amazing!!!

  • @DavidJacobsvo
    @DavidJacobsvo 2 роки тому +18

    Drama is by far the most overlooked Yes album and while I do love Jon Anderson this whole album is great.

    • @kevinlese633
      @kevinlese633 2 роки тому +2

      I think The Ladder is overlooked

  • @leddygee1896
    @leddygee1896 2 роки тому +24

    I've been a Yes fan for 50 of my 61 years on earth, and this is my favorite album! go figure...

    • @ginamarandino6451
      @ginamarandino6451 2 роки тому +3

      I have to listen to more of this album I never knew it existed and it's really groovy

    • @TheRKae
      @TheRKae Рік тому +1

      When I bought it (way back as a kid) I had no idea that Jon and Rick weren't in the band anymore. (It was back before the age of hype.) So I was disappointed when I opened it up. I played it... thought it was OK, but still sad there was no Jon and Rick. By the end of the week I was listening to the whole album twice a day. It's still underrated to this day. It's utterly brilliant.

    • @haywardweaver9669
      @haywardweaver9669 Рік тому +1

      I've been a fan for equally as long and this album defiantly goes in the top 3. It is too difficult for me to pick a favorite from this band, so many different incarnations and sounds, and most all of them awesome... but YES go figure ;)

    • @howie5th
      @howie5th 6 місяців тому

      I love Drama too!! It's my 2nd favorite behind Close to the Edge. I was in high school when this album came out. Always loved it.

  • @michaelbriefs9764
    @michaelbriefs9764 2 роки тому +11

    John, this whole album is great and unique in the cannon of Yes music! I saw this tour and it was WILD!! I have such fond memories of when this album first came out. Great stuff!

  • @croydonmassive
    @croydonmassive 2 роки тому +11

    Trevor Horn did well on this album. Ended up being one of the most famous producers of all time..awesome tune.

  • @mattleppard1964
    @mattleppard1964 Рік тому +3

    One of their best 🎉❤

  • @lferlan
    @lferlan Рік тому +2

    This is my favorite yes album, I wish they would have made another album with this line-up.

  • @a.k.1740
    @a.k.1740 2 роки тому +9

    The whole Drama album is awesome !

  • @fernandotor3266
    @fernandotor3266 11 місяців тому +1

    Well i remember when i got the lp.. initially i was shock and rejected because Anderson was not there..now i see it was a glass of fresh water for the band..and its a master piece of music

  • @Harromuso
    @Harromuso 2 роки тому +4

    Good stuff mate! Finding Yes is a massive rabbit hole. Two huge trip songs from their earlier days are "Close To The Edge" and "Awaken" although the trips are endless and beautiful. Keep up the great work
    Cheers
    Harro 😁🤘

  • @johncase2408
    @johncase2408 Рік тому +1

    This song in particular, really runs the gamut of human emotions. Great enthusiastic review!

  • @sixbladeknife44
    @sixbladeknife44 Рік тому +3

    The whole album is a masterpiece…some Yes fans hate it, some love it. I bought it when it came out, still love it to death.

  • @IanHillan
    @IanHillan 2 роки тому +2

    Dude. Go back in time with these guys (who were a MASSIVE influence on Rush. I would start in 1971 at The Yes Album and work my way forward to Going For the One in 1977.

  • @markwitherspoon1416
    @markwitherspoon1416 2 роки тому +6

    This is a great song. The songs you have listened to so far are from 90125, which was more a commercial sound. The earlier Yes will blow you away.

  • @timjones8377
    @timjones8377 2 роки тому +5

    Awesome! My favorite from DRAMA. 😎

  • @shimwooley
    @shimwooley Рік тому +1

    Seen these guys so many times. So good ! This is from the "Drama" LP. One of my favs !

  • @SpuddySpud
    @SpuddySpud Рік тому +4

    It might not have been seen as "proper" Yes at the time, but I think this album has stood up really well. Trevor Horn gives his signature production sheen, and him and Downes dragged the Yes sound into the 80s. The old guard of the band are really on fire too: I don't think Squire, Howe and White ever played as hard and heavy as they did on this album.

    • @lesblatnyak5947
      @lesblatnyak5947 Рік тому +1

      Steve Howe said he really enjoyed constantly jammin it out with Chris during Drama.

  • @Alanb_69
    @Alanb_69 Рік тому +3

    This album should have been so much bigger than it was. Machine Messiah is a masterpiece. Also, Rush were influenced by Yes. Geddy inducted them into the RRHOF.

  • @wfamdaxj
    @wfamdaxj 5 місяців тому

    Hi John, I just stumbled upon your channel. I love it when musicians listen to Yes because musicians know how to listen to things like, creative writing, arranging,exceptional playing and singing. Great production too. It amazes me that today people's attention to music lasts for a couple of minutes at best and it's mainly a loop to someone talking or ranting. I'm probably old enough to be your dad and Yes is my favourite band ever. I've seen their whole career and seen them live too. Believe me they are as tight as they are in the studio. I loved your reaction in so many ways so I have subscribed and will watch all your Yes stuff. There is a great live version of this with Benoit David on vocals with Chris Squire. Beautiful. Thank you for your great work. 😂🎼🎵🎶🖖

  • @micknordstrom2591
    @micknordstrom2591 Рік тому +1

    This is my favorite YES album!

  • @papalaz4444244
    @papalaz4444244 2 роки тому +1

    One of my fave songs and not many have reacted to it. New subscriber. :)

  • @herb6677
    @herb6677 Рік тому +2

    Upon your reading the lyrics I came to the conclusion, that his is one of the few yes songs, that has a clear message, although the lyrics remind me of King Crimson. As for the music, what else would you expect from a bunch of crayz guys when john anderson is for once not in the fold. They reach out with all their might. I too love this piece of music and it alwys gives me the thrills (of it all)

  • @TigerMtnKing
    @TigerMtnKing 2 роки тому +4

    Rush was inspired by YES.

  • @GTO4now
    @GTO4now 5 місяців тому +1

    YES! 😊

  • @warrenbutson349
    @warrenbutson349 7 місяців тому

    Great reaction and much as I felt when I heard it first time around 1988. Why isn’t this track praised as a Yes monster classic. It’s such an impressive piece and just a brilliant production

  • @stuartdmt
    @stuartdmt 2 роки тому +6

    Definitely - Mark Drechsler said it! If you like the darker sound of YES review the entire album Relayer - you won't be disappointed. And then go for the gold of true progressive music and check out "The Ancient: Giants Under the Sun" from 1973's Tales from Topographic Oceans album. -- Also, Drama isn't a concept album. Why anyone would describe Drama as a children's album didn't listen to the record. That's an algorithm malfunction.

    • @cybore213
      @cybore213 2 роки тому +1

      I was thinking perhaps "White Car" may have triggered the children's music description.

    • @stuartdmt
      @stuartdmt 2 роки тому

      @@cybore213 That's probably the best explanation . . . and if that's true, somebody better look at those algorithms... they need some work!

  • @yeshayahuhomberger2079
    @yeshayahuhomberger2079 2 роки тому +2

    Yes, always the best 👍💪🤙

  • @fernandotor3266
    @fernandotor3266 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks my friend

  • @gazza8127
    @gazza8127 2 роки тому +4

    It's not a concept album but I certainly understand why listening to Machine Messiah would give you that impression, an incredible piece. With the addition of Trevor Horn and Geoff Downes the writing changed and the band adopted a more hard edge sound. It's a phenomenal album, many of us Yes fans wish this line-up could have stayed together for a follow up, however Trevor Horn turned his attention to production and actually produced "90125" with Jon Anderson and new guitarist Trevor Rabin sharing the lead vocals. He also produced their 2008 album "Fly from here" with Geoff Downes returning on keyboards. Geoff and Steve Howe also left after Drama and found their way into the newly formed band "Asia". Some other great tracks from Drama are "Does it really happen" , "Into the Lens" and "Tempus Fugit" Cheers

    • @keithf_
      @keithf_ 2 роки тому +1

      'Man In A White Car' ... a fantastic little song

    • @gazza8127
      @gazza8127 2 роки тому +1

      @@keithf_ It certainly is Keith, majestic keyboards and just love Trevor's vocals, short track but excellent!

    • @KilroyWasHere83
      @KilroyWasHere83 Рік тому

      Fly From Here was 2011.

  • @heterophony2
    @heterophony2 Рік тому +1

    The singular eye is the red eye of HAL from 2001, so it’s a mythological conflation of science fiction, the idea of a panopticon, and the dialectic between the Satanic mills and beings escaping into systems of chance. Less a story and more a lyric poem that starts from artifice rather than nature.
    By the way, Chris Squire built Yes on the idea of integrating classical music with rock-specifically polyphony. And the nature of polyphony and contrapuntal music-such as the fugue form-is the interplay between rule-based harmony and wild improvisation. Which is reflexively written into this mythic poem with its Hegelian “drama” of freedom and law.

  • @LordAnthonyKagan
    @LordAnthonyKagan 2 роки тому +2

    Oh you should totally dive into Close to the Edge! It's going to change your brain and make you question if these guys are even from this world. Might even be the best song you'll ever hear. I'm not saying that lightly. It's beyond...

  • @jimmywhetton1141
    @jimmywhetton1141 Рік тому +1

    The best drumming by Alan White

  • @patricknicolucci5073
    @patricknicolucci5073 2 роки тому +4

    John , Drama is one of my favorite Yes albums listen to Tempus Fugit Chris Squire is a Beast on his Bass.

  • @nottotallysane3572
    @nottotallysane3572 10 місяців тому

    Fun fact, Video Killed the Radio Star was the very first song played on MTV.

  • @hustonbop
    @hustonbop Рік тому +1

    This whole album is fire 🔥!!!

  • @johnfoster5295
    @johnfoster5295 2 роки тому +2

    I recommend you check out The Gates Of Delerium from the Relayer album. It is an epic track, taking up the entire first side of the album.

  • @russell-eliot-dale
    @russell-eliot-dale Рік тому +2

    Your thoughts here are interesting and good. You speak of the interplay of nature and machine (at around 12:45), but you leave out society. In the lyric they mention the "satanic mill". This is a reference to William Blake's 1804 poem "And did those feet in ancient time" (which is the lyric used in the 1916 hymn "Jerusalem" which Emerson, Lake, and Palmer do in "Brain Salad Surgery", which I see you have a reaction video for part of). The "satanic mill" Blake was talking about was the Albion Mill in London which started flour production in 1786 (only to burn down in 1791, probably because the workers exploited and abused in it hated it so). So, the issue is not just nature and machines in this song, but human, and really capitalist (not human generally) exploitation of humans. Not only does the song seem to reference Blake, but I wonder whether it is alluding as well to Rilke's 10th poem in Book II of "The Sonnets to Orpheus": "The machine threatens all we have gained / Only so long as it is imagined, rather than obedient. / It no longer flaunts magnificent gestures of exquisite hesitation / But resolutely works the mine, and polishes the gem more precisely" (translated by Robert Temple; www.sonnetstoorpheus.com/book2_10.html). Humans, not machines, build machines and it is humans through machines who threaten everything. I think that is a big part of "Machine Messiah": we have to "alter our stance". That is how I read it, at any rate! :) Keep up your great and fun work! (Also, I think Yes were the inspiration for Rush, not really the other way around. :) Oh, I just saw that Mark Drechsler made the same point below.) (Also, if you want a really radio-unfriendly Yes song, try "Sound Chaser" from the "Relayer" album! It is gorgeous and mind-boggling, but somehow many people don't like it, or that album generally, but it is truly one of Yes' greatest albums.)

  • @won8135
    @won8135 Рік тому +1

    Odd how the younger musicians find Rush before YES, to attribute ANY RUSH influence on YES is the equivalent of getting a zero on a test. You couldn't be any more wrong.

  • @jmpsthrufyre
    @jmpsthrufyre 2 роки тому +3

    If you venture into the fragile album I suggest you listen to the whole thing

  • @keithwatkins7908
    @keithwatkins7908 2 роки тому +1

    Yes, the prog dinosaurs, overcame the threat of punk rock, and brought their music alive and kicking into the 80's. And then they broke up! What a magnificent album Drama is, for me, it was still the amazing Yes I had loved in the 70's.

  • @Rowenband
    @Rowenband 2 роки тому +2

    Strange that you go into Yes, with less famous albums. Interesting, but it's certainly time you go to the great songs now (Close to the Edge, Heart of the Sunrise, Sound Chaser, Ritual…)

  • @skunkworksu7638
    @skunkworksu7638 Рік тому +1

    Geddy Lee was inspired by Chris squire.

  • @markalyea3976
    @markalyea3976 9 місяців тому

    I absolutely think this is children's music. They need to learn at a young age when they're still developing what good music sounds like.

  • @flomalheur7467
    @flomalheur7467 2 роки тому +1

    Glad you like the song (I like it too), but a lot of old Yes fans didn't like the song and the whole album at all. Jon Anderson and Rick Wakeman had left the band and were replaced by the "Buggles" (Video Killed The Radio Star). That was Trevor Horn (vocals) and Geoff Downes (keyboards). This had a significant impact on the band's stylistic direction.

  • @markjohnson4217
    @markjohnson4217 2 роки тому +1

    Actually Rush were inspired by YES. But I think during the 80s they were listening to each other, Lol..
    This whole album is terrific. It was meant to be their last, but 90125, released a few years after ended up turning into YES by default, Lol...

  • @jimhardiman3836
    @jimhardiman3836 2 роки тому +1

    Prog isn't dead it just smells funny

    • @cybore213
      @cybore213 2 роки тому

      I see what you did there. 😏

  • @Darkalen
    @Darkalen 2 роки тому +1

    Love this entire album 🤙

  • @daveford12
    @daveford12 2 роки тому +1

    Have you listened to YES music from the 70’s Fragile, the yes album, Relayer and probably the best prog rock album of all time close to the edge

  • @mattleppard1964
    @mattleppard1964 Рік тому +1

    Have you done more Yes? I subscribed so hope to find Close to the Edge, Gates of Delirium, and Awaken. If not done, do them!❤❤❤

  • @jamiedimond9419
    @jamiedimond9419 2 роки тому

    entire album🔥

  • @yes_head
    @yes_head Рік тому +1

    The reason you probably think this is from a concept album is the Pink Floyd-ian sound to the dark, acoustic sections. But no, very much not a concept album. And not inspired by Rush (other way around.)

  • @leddygee1896
    @leddygee1896 2 роки тому +5

    Technology kidnapping Humanity. Kinda like what's happening today.

  • @keithf_
    @keithf_ 2 роки тому +1

    Just love this track. Definitely in my top 10 of all Yes tracks. And of course the Drama album is controversial because Jon Anderson and Rick Wakeman have departed. But it's still a terrific Yes album.
    ... and you should check out the track that immediately follows this one on the album ... 'Man In A White Car' ... a glorious little half-song, leaving you wanting more !

  • @delllittle5692
    @delllittle5692 2 роки тому

    My favorite Yes album. still....I like many Yes albums. what a unique combination of talents at just the right moment. Chris and Trevor blend as well as Chris and Jon do. I hope you continue on through the album.

  • @daveford12
    @daveford12 2 роки тому +1

    Bad bad me I forget to say Going for the one and Tales from Topographic Oceans. The album is good but the others are classics

  • @Eclectic-ey1di
    @Eclectic-ey1di Рік тому

    When you read out the lyrics, and break it down, you find that this song is ultimately about The Beast. None of the explanations I’ve found online that were given by the band include this important, fundamental detail. And moreover, when I attempted to explain it before in other reactions to this song, YT’s algorithms would ghost my posts and replies...interestingly enough.

  • @VespoLiveGaming
    @VespoLiveGaming 9 місяців тому

    The heavy intro reminds me of Black Sabbath in the last few albums before they split with Ozzy

  • @Azabaxe80
    @Azabaxe80 2 роки тому +9

    12:32 "I'm sure they were inspired by Rush". This is when I realized where you stand on Yes.
    A quick look at the Yes songs that you have reacted to indicates that you are familiar with 80's Yes. Unfortunately, THAT Yes is not the norm, but rather, the exception. Classic Yes goes from 1971 through 1977. So no, Rush did not influence Yes. It was very definitely the other way around. Chris Squire was the reason Geddy Lee played a Rickenbacker bass all those years ago.
    Do yourself a favor and listen, in this order, to The Yes Album (1971), Fragile (1971), and Close to the Edge (1972). CTTE is widely considered as the best progressive record ever made, in competition only with King Crimson's In The Court of the Crimson King (1969) for that title. Listen to it only after hearing those other two. Genesis, as good as they were, were not in this league.
    Drama, the album, was "this" Yes' attempt to continue making the music that proper Yes produced in the early to mid 70s. There is one song in this album that almost reaches that level. It's called "Tempus Fugit".

  • @bazeye
    @bazeye 2 роки тому +1

    If you think this is art, then you will love the studio version of Heart of the Sunrise.
    At the moment you are going backwards through their catalogue, so try going, carry on and and you will be increasingly amazed.

  • @reneelyons6836
    @reneelyons6836 2 роки тому +2

    Prog rock killed the video star!!!!!!!!

  • @33ordie
    @33ordie 2 роки тому

    A Prayer to the New World Order ? :) Drama is a great album, even if they didn't have the classic Yes lead singer (replaced by the singer of Buggles). I absolutely love the following; Into the Lens, and specially Tempus Fugit !!! Check them out ! Awesome. I really love this album.

  • @bazeye
    @bazeye 2 роки тому +1

    This sounds like Tormato should of sounded.

  • @RZoneFitnessForWomen
    @RZoneFitnessForWomen Рік тому

    Wild trip? Listen to close to the edge and relayer album 😃

  • @williamweiss6128
    @williamweiss6128 Рік тому

    Like the Drama lp.

  • @tomfabozzi6309
    @tomfabozzi6309 2 роки тому

    You should listen to all of "Drama", John
    I think you'd like it. It almost sounds like a parent of Dream Theater. There's a real production "sheen" on it (which shouldn't be surprising, as Trevor Horn and Hugh Padgham were involved on this album). "Did it Really Happen?", "Tempus Fugit" and "Into the Lens" are all great tracks

  • @nickmastro6870
    @nickmastro6870 Рік тому

    Solid song and album. Trevor Horn certainly not as good a singer as Anderson, but he's OK and was pretty good in the studio. The boggles brought some cool stuff to Yes

  • @jamiedimond9419
    @jamiedimond9419 2 роки тому

    bro we are avatars in a VR...concave

  • @katskillz
    @katskillz 2 роки тому

    What a sleeper when I stumbled across the CD for this in the early 90s. Seemed like it was mostly ignored by Yes fan online discussions in those days, black sheep I guess. But yeah its the most re-listenable album for me, my favorite version of their sound experimentation. Didn't mind Trevor Horn's vocals at all ... it sort of let new wave meet prog in a rare crossover. And I didn't miss Wakeman's synths, as talented as he is there was just too much jazz and classical noodling that contradicted the atmosphere of the rest of the band. Just my .02

  • @fernandotor3266
    @fernandotor3266 11 місяців тому

    Rush nop

  • @bliastreb6466
    @bliastreb6466 2 роки тому

    " Like listening to a Genesis song!?" Insulting!!!

  • @fernandotor3266
    @fernandotor3266 11 місяців тому

    New wavw infkuence?

  • @skunkworksu7638
    @skunkworksu7638 Рік тому

    This is the last great yes album. If the keys were dirty sounding would have been even better.

  • @vinylsolution2522
    @vinylsolution2522 Рік тому

    YES Drama increases in Reputation every year... overlooked and damned by a vocal minority in 1980...
    In America it was loved... the tour was sold out.. it was in the UK that shithead fans would not accept a new singer.. no matter how great the new lineup was.