Listening to YES: Big Generator, Side 1
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All Trevor Robin albums with Yes are good. I'm really partial to Talk album, which is their follow-up to Big Generator.
Rabin. Actually Union followed BG which led to Talk and ABWH.😎
Shoot high, Aim low is actually a great lil tune!
Can't help but think of "I get high I get low" from closer to the edge
@@richardm6985 I get up, I get down.
@@shyshift true, sorry, got my wires crossed lol I've listened through that album like 4 times in the last two days
it's a top 5 Yes song for me
Love this album takes me to a certain place in time. Those who don't, I don't think see the value of it or how hard it was in the 80s to do something that was distinct sounding .
I was really curious how you were going to react to this one JIm. Glad you enjoyed it. I love this album! I couldn't get enough of 'Shoot High Aim Low'. Must have listened to it hundreds of times. YES is the greatest band ever no matter what decade. In my ever so humble opinion.
This was my first Yes album, back in '87. The tour opened me up to their older stuff. I think this album was more of a cohesive collaboration of the band with Jon which gives it an edge over 90125...though I love both albums.
Trevor Rabin has some of the juiciest variety of little solos too.
Welcome home, Jim!
Glad you enjoyed side 1 of Big Generator. My favorite track from the album is Shoot High, Aim Low. 💖
Everyone seems to like that one!
I've been recommending *I'm Running* (on the 2nd side) for a while. I consider it to be one of YES' Top Ten masterpieces. It starts off with an iconic Chris Squire opening riff that the band develops throughout. It also features what I consider to be one of Alan White's best drumming performances on a studio album. (I think he plays steel drums on it?) I'll admit that the first time I listened to it I wasn't thinking it was _all that,_ but after repeated listenings to what they had accomplished with it, I now celebrate it as _truly special._
A good song, I admit, but one Yes's best ? I have to relisten it !!
And that will come next!
I've been recommending it too. One of my favorite Yes songs. Easily one of the most dynamic modern Yes songs.
Yea it's my favorite on the album along with "Rhythm of Love" and "Shoot High, Aim Low".
I dedicate Shoot High Aim Low to my loving sister Judy who I lost a year ago today on 7-11-21. You are so missed.⚘⚘⚘
Oh my goodness, that makes this video quite poignant. I don’t realise it was so recent Jeff. I’m sorry.
@@JimNewstead Thank you my friend.😎
I've liked this one from the release date. One of my old bands used to cover "Love Will Find A Way". It's an interesting Trevor Rabin studio experience. He went nuts with the production on this one and it can be heard with a critical listen.
The ironic thing is so many fans panned the 80s works because it wasn't that 70s sound scape that was the Yes signature. Reality, its the musicianship of Yes, the sounds and textures they create. This is an awesome album, from song to song. Only Yes can do what your hearing here. Copied by many but never duplicated.
Seeing someone listen to this with fresh ears is a lot of fun.
Hey Jim! I always liked this album. The Big Tour was incredible. I saw several shows in the Midwest. The album should have been released a year sooner to follow up 90125. The band toured 90125 for almost 2 years. By the time BG was recorded so much time had passed in-between albums. By now Jon and Trevor were used to singing together and sharing the stage. Several good songs on BG and some did get ample air play. So thank you Jim, the journey continues ❗😎
214, do you think we should tell Jim that it's nine thousand and twelve-five, 😃 ✌️
@@lesblatnyak5947 No.😎
The journey continues!!! Yes 😁
@@JimNewstead
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As a massive fan of 70s Yes, I have consistently underrated this album, without giving it a fighting chance, so it's been fantastic to give it a real listen with you. Can't wait for side 2 now. Oh, and Infected by The The! Yes. Though, Dusk is my favorite. Love Is Stronger Than Death gets me in the feels every time.
Trevor Rabin had the difficult task to replace Steve Howe on guitar, well, he got the job done. What a class guitar player, he truly shines 🎸🤘
"Aim High, Shoot Low"...played that song to death!
Jim you make the best videos, I hope you know that. Your relaxing vibe, but great energy throughout, nothing like relaxing and just enjoying musical journeys with you. Thank you for the high quality content and being you! Also a little recommendation album, Spelling-The Turning Wheel, a reaction of that would be amazing but check it out if you want some modern pop esque orchestral amazingness with some beautiful female vocals!
Wow, thank you
I have always liked this album quite a bit. Shoot High, Aim Low is probably my most favorite song from them of all time. Yes, Genesis, Asia, and the other prog musicians that decided to participate in the 80s, at least in my opinion, did the 80s sound much better than anyone else ever did. Rush and Yes both showed that progressive rock could have exquisite short song writing as well as large sweeping epic compositions. Talk is also a great album, but I also like the album that comes in between Talk and Big Generator, the Union album; that makes me a bit of an anomaly in the Yes fan world.
Aim high.....shoot low. That's very good. Now I get the title of this album. Grooooovy.😎✌️
I don't agree with the comments stating that Big Generator is better than 90125, but hey, everybody has got to have their own opinion, right ? Still a good album, and I do have my own vinyl copy since 1987 🤘. Can't wait for the second side reaction, Jim, cause it has "Final Eyes" and "Holy Lamb" on it, both gorgeous
2 great songs. Jon at his best.😎
Big Generator is far superior to 90125...not even close.
Great job as usual Jim! Probably on the top 3 of my Yes favorites. So many memories the summer this came out! Bravo!
Ladies and gentlemen Chris Squire and Yes the greatest show on earth. Enlightening reaction.
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Expanding my YES horizons…soooooo many great albums and great tunes yet to be discovered. Absolutely love it!!
My favorite of all Yes albums. I especially love Chris Squire's bass and the vocals.
Awesome live!!!
One of their best albums in my opinion - it was a shame that Jon had left after this one... thy never found this vibe again!
Late 1980s
Seen YES a few times LIVE in 1987
Great Album
Awesome stuff....i will get this fantastic album asap!! --- I a 58 year old recently re-discovering vinyl - Yes are my favourite - all time in fact...and here is something so wonderful about listening to vinyl again after a long time. So much so i have not touched a mp3 or cd since my modest at lp3 turntable purchase a few months ago. You channel is wonderful...love you enthusiasm - I look forward to the next video....all the best....cheers
Awww, thank you Scott! Isn't vinyl wonderful? Side two coming soon!
@@JimNewstead thats great news...and yes - vinyl has made me fall back in love with music - cd and especially mp3 made it too easy and boring. Also I am so happy with how the old format sounds - better than i can remember (i must have had a rubbish system back in the day) cheers
Big Generator (the song) is absolutely hilarious. Only Yes could write a song as demented as that.
YES - Outstanding, Beverly Hills 90210 was a 1990's Drama Series that spawned many fortunate, and some unfortunate, careers. 90125 was the band Yes' 11th Studio Album, and I'd be lyin' if-in I said I never got them mixed up.
Gets me nearly every time!
Absolutely one of YESs best. So different from their incredible early days. Shoot High is fab!
Listening to this brings me back to my senior year in High School - playing games on my Commodore 128 and listening to this and the Fixx's Walkabout on repeat! Good times
The very first CD I ever bought. I still have it. I also bought it on vinyl probably 10 years ago. Very underrated album that gets a lot of grief from the Rabin Haters. I'm so happy that my musical tastes are diverse enough to appreciate what both Howe and Rabin had to offer as I enjoy both eras of the band equally. Glad to see the love for this album in the comments and the vlog. The stand out track on Side 1 for me is Shoot High Aim Low. Disappointed ARW didn't break this song out during their touring run. I did see Yes perform it in 1988 on the Big Tour which was also the first time I saw Yes.
As for the history of the making this album, it was tough album for them to make. Rabin and Anderson clashed in the songwriting. Anderson wasn't around for the songwriting on 90125. His songwriting contributions on that album was more in the vain of clean-up. Big Generator took around a year longer than expected to make due to some these conflicts.
Glad to see you getting back to the Yes catalog. Good 3 album run with Trevor Rabin. Looking forward to your getting to the last one, Talk. The final song will blow you away. Enjoying Big Generator though. Some people believe that Marillion was responsible for bringing prog back in the 80s but it's my opinion that Yes got the movement going strong with these 3 albums. Not the Yes of the 70s but thanks to the genius of Rabin, they set the course for prog to grow. Evidence of his overwhelming influence can be heard in his sole album, Can't Look Back.
Too bad this was almost the end of the the great releases. After Steve Howe came back, the only albums of positive note were Keys to Ascension. . Just my opinion.
I really really liked this record!
To be fair to Marillion, their first EPs and albums were a good 4-5 years before this came out. In fact, the first wave of neo-prog was starting to die out when this album arrived. This helped bridge the gap during what is considered the dark ages for prog, which is about 1983-1993.
"Talk" is amazing, their return to conceptual prog with Rabin.
My favourite song from the album is aim high shoot low
Can't wait to hear your "Union" listening"
Hi Jim!
90125 was the first Yes album I bought new, being about 15 years old, and I loved it. But, Yes being Yes,. This follow up took 4 years to come out. Can you imagine the anticipation!!
Anyway, I can still remember my very first thought when I dropped the needle into the groove.
"This sounds like the Beach Boys meets The Moody Blues 'Long Distance Voyager '"".
35 years later you have the same thought 🤣🤣
Hilarious.
This I think is yes's best album ever .
I wouldn't go as far as that, but I certainly enjoyed it!
Personally, I think this album is a few steps above 90125. It’s more progressive and more cohesive to my ears. It also showcases Trevor Rabin’s chops, influences, and his penchant for fusion jazz-rock playing, especially in places like the I’m Running solo. That’s pure Al DiMeola territory. What Steve Howe was to classical Baroque style melody, Trevor Rabin was to fusion. Completely different styles, but no less important to the band’s sound. This is probably my favorite of the three Rabin era Yes releases. Glad you liked it!
I have to second your comment re: Chris Squire's _less dominant_ bass playing role in most YES songs following the Drama album. It was honestly the #1 thing I looked forward to in YES creations since the first time I heard them: how he intended early on that his contributions would heavily colour their overall presentation. I L O V E D I T. As his contributions receded more into the background, I began to lose more and more of my fascination with YES. The talent was there, but it began to lack that big smile component for me. Just saying... :/
I was going to post the same adding there are few genius tracks. And a few disjointed tracks.
Welcome Back !
Walt
And I the second side is very good as well. Holy Lamb is a great song. I'm Running , unique song. Love will find a way, cool pop rock tune.
I was introduced to Yes during the 80s and at the concert tour for this album which was great. That led to me getting all the back catalogue and going to all the rest of their tours until 2018, actually. That included ABWH, ARW, and many Jon A off projects. I remember really liking the "Talk," album too so that's next!
Union?
@@jeffschielka7845 The Union tour was fantastic. I don't remember listening to the record more than once.
@@susangonsalves9636 What I meant was Union came before Talk. And yes, The Union Tour was phenomenal. Saw several shows. The Onion album was pitiful.😭😎
Almost Like Love = Yes goes Motown in spectacular fashion
I also agree that Big Generator is better than 90125. It didn't sell as well because it didn't have that one pop single hit that 90125 had, but for long time YES fans it had more of the experimental element that earlier YES had in abundance. And of course, it had *I'm Running* on it :)
Love Will Find A Way and Rhythm of Love were pretty popular singles that received a lot of air play. BG would of done much better had it been released sooner.😎
@@jeffschielka7845 I completely agree with you on both points.
A YES rocker!!
I've never listened to this album in its entirety. Looking forward to this. That is, I never listened to it straight through like this. I've heard every song on the album, but don't remember at least half of them.
What a great summer 1987 was. This, Crest of a Knave, Sign o the Times. The only three albums I listened to for a month lol
About time lol
Thank you
Welcome back! Hope you enjoyed your time away. 🙂
Cheers pal! Yup, though I’m glad to be back…. Prefer my own bed and the routine for the little fella is easier to maintain here!
I agree with you Jim it’s way more Progressive than 90125. It’s a 4 year span since that album but I never really warmed to it like Big Generator.
Much better than 90125. i am sooo looking forward to "I'm Running' on side two which is their best track since "Drama"
Ah one of the few Yea albums I've yet to digest....in this case at all!! Looking forwards to my first listen with the Jimster....I certainly hope it generates a big viewer uptake for you sir after your well deserved time off!🙏👨🎤😎
Awww, cheers bud!
loved it back then. just not one I visit much, anymore...
agree...this is better than the one before...
Talk is even better.
glad you're digging it, though...it is a fine album.
All of Trevor's contributions are great to the Yes catalogue. Certainly light years ahead of the crap coming out of the Steve Howe cover band currently calling themselves "Yes". While this album, 90125 and Talk aren't in the same league as Fragile, Close to the Edge or Relayer, they are really solid additions.
I could not agree more...vehemently?! 🙂 You speak truth.
Talk resonated with me as equally as the albums you mentioned, plus the Yes Album. Same league? IMHO, yes. I have yet to find a reason to not listen to it and enjoy it completely.
Good to have you back! Always liked this album. Trevor Rabin is an amazing guitar player 😀
Indeed he is!
YES! 😊
For me, this is the last really good Yes album. Also liked ABWH. Glad you like it.
This is 1987 and in 1988 It Bites released Once Around the World. That was to my mind a real progressive rock record.
Yeah that opening is like Beach Boys as you say then the opening verse.....that's gotta be The Cult or Def Leopard 👨🎤😅
Probably genuine Beach Boys influence too, they had a big UK following, Yes were fans and people were beginning to trade around bootlegs of the abandoned Beach Boys Smile sessions during this time.
The guitar strut is like Every Breath You Take...then crazy Cult is back🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
Lots of The Cult in this!
Produced by Trevor Rabin 😉
Hello Jim been a while I'm glad to hear you go through this album and It suffers from a couple of things first of all side one basically is the Trevor Rabin album featuring yes side two is more complete in my humble opinion. But the biggest problem with big generator is that it came out two or three years too late Trevor Rabin decided to use a very early type of digital mixing and he used it from beginning to end on this record it may be the first album totally recorded in digital. It took forever to mix and there was too much time lag between the success that they rode from 90125 to this album also by the time it came out Diane Warren was the sound everybody was dying to have on their records
Jim, found it...awesome album....Rabin driven, took a long time to produce...Yes agree better than 90125.....said previously underrated album, but apparently under constraint from the record company to follow up from 90125...Beautifully ironic that Jon Anderson sacked Tony Kaye for Rick Wakeman, and on this he is superb.... Spear of Destiny was Kirk Brandon...rock n roll
Glad you're enjoying it. One quick thing...I think you're getting your timelines mixed up since Teardrop Explodes had their big hits in the early 80s whereas this album came out in 87 so the influence could have been the other way around !
That's...... SUPER interesting!!!!!
I recall buying this when it came out back in 1987 and being quite blown away by it. For me it was a step ahead from 90125 and the guitar/drums in particular were really prominent with Trevor Rabin in particular shredding it. Jon Anderson had some really aggressive tones in his voice and sang his heart out. Almost Like Love has shades of the Time and A Word era in it for me, updated and re-vamped for the 1980s. Listening to it now is hard because it's so 'of its time' with a harsh and trebly production that is rather shrill to my ears. Big Generator took forever to make and a variety of producers came and went as Yes fractured and couldn't agree on a recording venue. Early demos have a completely different feel to the finished album. The delays ensured that the momentum 90125 gave them in 1983/4 was lost. It was a comparatively poor seller compared to 90125 and many of the new fans hooked on 90125 had moved away from the band. Had it come out in 1985 as planned it could easily have been as big, but once again Yes failed to capitalise on success - which has been a common theme throughout their career. Still a really good album though.
Good comments. I agree with you very much. I hadn't heard this album in awhile and as "Almost Like Love" was playing I was thinking this kind of reminds me of the early Yes era. I hadn't thought of that before when I used to listen to this album.
I like most Yes fans dismissed the Rabin albums but 30 years on I appreciate them much more. Music was changing and took a while to like it
Great reaction Jim, got to agree with you I've always preferred this to 90125, I think the band were more confident on this one than the previous one and also the songs are better
Thanks Graham, my thoughts exactly!
Maybe not their best album ,but still well worth a listen to ,nice to see you again Jim .
I love the stereo shift of the word 'moving' on the title track. I'm Running is probably the track that most calls back to 70s yes and is my favourite, but I really like this album as a whole. As for the jump on the record - wasn't that the most perfectly timed vinyl skip you've ever heard? It was exactly one bar and one line of lyrics!
Uncanny!
"Almost Like Love" sounds Like "Slow Train to Dawn" by The The and "Let Them Talk" by Elvis Costello combine with little Julian Cope thrown in. I agree that the writing on this album seems more settled than the previous. Alan White was an underrated beast.
I overall prefer 90125 but Big Generator has some highlights on both sides imo. The big highlight on side one for me is Shoot High Aim Low cause it's constructed like a Yes version of The Beatles' I Got a Feeling and shows that they can do minimalist playing as well as the more complex stuff. Rhythm of Love is pretty good too but I prefer the twelve inch Dance to the Rhythm remix where it sounds like Sheila E and Tito Puente and his band are sitting in with Yes. On the title track Chris is using a custom four string bass that was made so he could have the qualities of a five string bass on a four string. Trevor Rabin says Almost Like Love is Chris' riff but he thinks the song built around it isn't good enough. At some points Alan's drum sound reminds me of Lars' on St. Anger. He does sound great on Shoot High... though. The backing track for that was done at a historic castle in Italy.
If you like this, then you'll definitely enjoy Talk!
Can't wait!
Forgot how good this is. Aim High probably the best track.
When this came out, I enjoyed it more than 90125. It was a great cruisin' album. As the years have passed, I think 90125 is the better of the two, but Big Generator has its moments.
When I think about it, quite easily my favourite album of the '80s. Shame it went through such a tortuous birth and they couldn't keep the momentum going.
it would be cool to compare again with the album from ABWH, 2 years later
Talk about classic bands ott 🎹 80s phases....there was King Crimson, also Rush....and then there was also this craziness by Yes!🤯
Welcome back champ:)
I'm gonna give this a good listen to help your channel but it's occasionally being a bit too 80s for me.. that.. jazz hands starburst hyper intense keyboard blast they chuck into the chorus of "big generator" made me want to hunt down the nearest person with a mullet haha
Ha! You’re way more dedicated than you need to be!!! Thank you
And I want....
And I need....
Yesyesyes!😆🤷♂️
The big generator riff is very similar to owner
This is the record where I became disinterested in YES, too off the farm for me. I was the BIGGEST FAN from the Yes Album to Drama. The first two records are good, I'll take them over BG anytime, and 90210 is OK. ABWH is the only release after BG that I have heard in it's entirety, it is also OK. But, nothing lasts forever, even cold November rain.
Not a classic album
But a pleasant album thats got a commercial poppy sound and certainly a dated 80s sound
I got into Yes big time in the summer of 1985 between this album and the previous one. I would go to PDQ Records in Tucson and buy Yes and other prog lps for $3-6 dollars used. I remember waiting and waiting for this album to come out and I saw them on this tour in 1987 or 88. In hindsight I still love this album but 90215 is still better I think
Bit of a challenge getting a decent priced cd of BG....just snagged one. I knew I should've bought the 5cd classic albums cd box set with BG in it last year.....have all the albums in that set now....except Tormato 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Do you ever try eBay? CDs on there are usually very cheap. Like £1.50 cheap!
@@JimNewstead the cheapest decent looking cd I found on ebay was about £5 for this album....so got it because all the others including on Amazon were craaazy prices ....💸
But to answer....yes I do!! I've got quite a few from eBay. Books are even better I find on eBay...bargain wise. I do prefer on whole buying cd new for about 5/6 quid but some titles like BG are surprisingly out of print....unless, like I said in other comment, id just bought that nice price classic album 5cd set with BG in it last year.....hindsight is wonderful thingy ma jig!!😅👨🎤
Is it just me, or does the pre-chorus in Rhythm Of Love seem to reference back to Siberian Khatru?
On Yes' '97 - '98 tour they played those two songs back to back.
Back in the day, I was so obsessed with the Yes of the 70s that it was difficult to hear them putting out more commercial music. I never really gave these albums (90125, Big Generator, etc.) the fair listens they should have gotten, as I was so upset that the Yes I had known was all but gone. These days I can listen to these albums with a less prejudiced ear and can admit that they are pretty good rock albums. Still can't come close to 70s Yes, though.
Hi Jim, You need to react to "TALK' the last YES album with this same line up. If you think this is good wait till you here TALK. Have a great day!! Oh, by the way it is available on vinyl.
Have you seen the prices???
@@JimNewstead Yes, Check around some more. You still might find one at a reasonable price. I bought my vinyl copy a couple years ago, brand new on Amazon for about $26.00 U.S. Money. I know you deal in Pounds in the U.K. Have a great day!!
As a big 90125 apologist, I thought Big Generator was a mediocre follow-up, trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice. I like it fine and there are some fun songs, but only "Shoot Hight, Aim Low" really gets my juices flowing. Better than Union; not as good as Talk.
Big Generator doesn't necessarily provide the current needed to provide a bright light. They aimed high but just missed. Maybe it was me but I was just listening to AOR. It Bites was knocking them for six at this point.
The yes album
Fragile
Close to the edge
Relayer
Goin for the one
Questi sono gli YES, che ho amato. Gli altri? ......
I actually prefer side 2 of this album more than side 1. Of course, at this point I had abandoned vinyl for CDs's so maybe I should say the last half of the album. But it's all good.
Not my favorite lineup, not my favorite LP, but a lot of great memories of seeing this Yes on the “Big Generator” tour in Atlanta 😎
I personally find this record much much much better than ABWH. I have a feeling that most people don't, and it's one of those musical mysteries...
Yes had something special to say and they said it .. But then came Relayer and Yes lost it. The earlier stuff was far more original and Ok yes was still special.. but no they never re-captured that spiritual magic that only YES could express.
Always liked this album! Jim, you should react to Rush; Power Windows, so much this sound of the 80’s!😎
Love Rush!
YES...once again started feeling the vibration around them and streams of music....and decided to gives us music relevant to our environment that was Hard Hitting Dance/Funk groove with a twist.....Using the influences of The Beatles....The Beach Boys.....The Cult.....and Deep Purple.....and come up with this Amazing music. I really Love this album....and another one I really Love and I want you Jim to react to is their 1994 album entitled, "Talk." Check it out Bro....It is DOPE!!!!
I'll get to it!
This is sort of a controversial album (but then again, everything from 90125 onward has that tag). After the success of 90125 the band couldn't agree on a cohesive direction and this record languished in development hell far longer than it should have (where the hell was the management?) As a result it was about a year or so behind the curve and never achieved the success it might have. I personally like Big Generator a bit more than 90125. The low points ("Love Will Find a Way") are a bit lower, but the high points ("I'm Running", "Shoot High Aim Low", "Final Eyes") are more of a return to classic form than anything on 90125 (save perhaps "Cinema", which was such an outlier.)
And I had LOL at your "I'd like to hear Chris Squire's bass more forward in the mix," comment Jim. Think back to when you first heard early Yes and I'll bet you were thinking "That bass is too forward in the mix!" 😄
Did I ever say it was TOO forward? I loved his bass sound, and couldn't ever want it less obvious in the mix. To that end, Drama is perfect!!!
@@JimNewstead What's interesting about Big Generator is that it marks the beginning of Chris' "minimalist" phase, where he seemed to be going out of his way to avoid any of the flashy playing he was famous for (save a few exceptions like "I'm Running".) "Shoot High Aim Low" is a good example of this.
OMG! Anyone that thinks Big Gen isn't better than 90125 is nuts....same to Talk....much superior to 90125.
Interesting if you listen to this and then 'In No Sense Nonsense' by Art of Noise... to hear the Trevor Horn touches.
An interesting and proficiant record (better than 90215), but its not why I would buy Yes. Attempts to be more commercial with some rock and more than a drop of Art of Noise... so, it didn't satisfy traditional Yes expectations. Other listeners tho frightened themselves off, fearing the original Yes sound.
I don't seem to like anything nowadays. Bah humbug. Shuffles away, planning to take umbridge.
//looking forward to Side 2, too! :)
Oh man!!! Perhaps I should play some more Porcupine Tree for you :)
@@JimNewstead Hrumph (I had to practice that). Hm. Some TPT perhaps? What's Gavin H getting up to with them nowadays?
Not forgetting Animals as Leaders - Weightless. Or some long soleful synth / Echos inspired material from Radio Massacre International - Bett'r Days? :)