I have been told that they stopped making this amp. I’ve never been able to afford one. On the lead channel you can set it fairly clean and still get sustain. No other amp I have ever found can give you that. I don’t play out any more so price is hard to justify. And from what I have found so far they cost more now than they did new. But one day if the good Lord allows I will have one.
Running a Lonestar Special 1x12 combo with a Celestion Alnico Ruby, fantastic on both channels. Key control is really the treble knob, and keeping the bass knob suited to the room/wattage setting. The Mesa manual of your 100watt version is worth a read of you haven't already, can be found online. 👍
That is fantastic advice, thanks for that. I have found I have to use the eq a fair bit depending on the situation, more than a lot of other amps. I think we will probably end up trying quite a few alnico speakers in this one.
I only saw this video today. I have a Lonestar Classic 2x12 with the same tolex cover as the one you have in Blue Bronco (I think it is called.) And I have a 1x12 Lonestar Special. One thing I do with both amps, and both channels, is I keep the Bass knob right around 9-10 o'clock. Another thing I do is I run the Master volumes pretty high, and then use the Output to control the volume. That way I can push the pre-amps and still have tolerable volumes. Doing it the other way, though, where the Master volumes are lower and you turn up the Output yields good tones, as well. Looking at pictures on my amp, the Masters are set at about 11 o'clock, and the Output is at about 9 o'clock on both channels. The Mesa manuals always talking about the Treble and how the higher up you turn it, the less the Mids and Bass knobs affect your tone. Turning up the treble also adds gain. My Lonestar Classic is the 100/50 watt original version. Later versions could also do 10 watts. I run mine like this from left to right on channel one: Gain 1:00, Treble 1:00, Mids 1:00, Bass 9:00 to 10:00, Presence 1:00, Master 11:00, Wattage Toggle 50 watts, Output 9:00, Power switch to Tweed. And on the back, Tube Rectifier and Effects Loop level at 11:00 (even if I'm not running any pedals through it.) I think for most people these would be a pretty good starting point.
Hey guys! My fav amp. Are you still going forward with this project? Cant wait to see what you gonna do with it. Please do some speaker swaps with it. Thanks!
Amazing amp. I use mine for almost every recording job I do and it always sounds amazing, just put a mic in front of the speaker and you're done. There is a simple mod that I've done to mine (referred on the forums as the "Reeder mod") which involved swapping two of the pots around on the second channel. As you know it's quite a dark sounding amp and the mod opens up the 2nd channel a bit as it makes them voiced the same.
Great video as usual. Another reason why I’ve just placed an order for a cab from you guys (did that yesterday, now waiting excitedely to hear from you). Am looking forward seeing the transformation you’ll do with the Lonestar. Splitting it into a head and cab would make it easier to haul around of course. Whatever you decide, it’ll be fun to see what the result will be. Cheers
Ah excellent, I literally just opened your email.... email responses are a bit slow on Fridays as we are usually booking parcels in for most of the day. Yeah they work great as heads, they are really heavy amps... going to be even heavier when we load EVs in there ;)
Firstly, I love your playing. Secondly, really nice video. I use one exclusively right now. I find the combinations of sound you can get out of it extraordinary because Mesa tone knobs are so powerful. I use a Reverend lead pedal on my clean channel when I wanna get that bite, when I want to have a really clean crystal clear sound for my rhythm and then when I want that crisp yet full bite for leads I use the Reverend pedal. The Reverend even works On the drive channel, though I use others too depending on application.
Thanks, Joe is a great player. I really do love the Lonestar. I've never sat down with it enough to fully utilize what it can do, but it sounds like you are giving it a proper good going over. Thanks for watching.
Perfect video! (Personally I love this amp, this « thick » tone on the lead Channel and the dynamic when you use the volume knob on the guitar..) Can't wait to see part two of the Video 😊🎸
A year ago i was in contact with paul and he was going to see how small a shell for the head and how light he could make the shell given the chassis is not small.... so watching with much interest in this series. Still interested in changing the head for a lighter she'll. ..
Hi Danny, we can get the shells down to about the width o the chassis plus the wood. But they are still pretty big shells as there is a lot to them. I prefer the slightly wider version which is what I think we will go for with this one, but I can send some pictures of the smallest head.
When I picked up my Mark IV head, I also picked up a quarter stack (2 speaker) cabinet in a Mesa road-ready configuration and it has a Celestion and an EV in it. At my skill level I don't push the thing hard enough to tell you whether it is good or bad, but apparently Mesa could not decide which speaker either.
I just got a Fillmore 25 that I'm playing through a Studio Pro vertical 2x12. Not exactly apples to apples, but it's similar enough that I'm really looking forward to seeing where this series goes!
Paul really looking forward to this series... an awesome amp that, as you say, there isn't alot of info that compares different speakers. With my LSS head I've run the following Mesa 1x12 EVM12L semi-open Mesa Recto V30 2x12 horizontal Vintage late 70's Peavey closed back, ported front 2x12 with Black Widows 70's 2x10 semi-open back with G10N-40s (a retrofitted combo cab) Custom 2x12 vertical split with semi-open back top, closed bottom with an EVM12L and Eminence Lil Texas Each cab is so different, at this point to my ears the vert 2x12 seems to be the best balanced single cab, but running the 1x12 EVM with the Recto is nice too. Two EVMLs may be too much EVM tone & weight wise for one to handle :)
Thanks Albert, it sounds like you've had a lot of fun trying all this out. I'm looking forward to the EVs but right now the combo weighs a ton, its going to be ridiculous with a pair of those!
Just bought an almost identical lonestar..(grill condition) here in America. Two questions, which overdrives were you using? Sounded transparent/awesome! My ews Brute drive just adds to much character. My Jhs AT+ sounds incredible but looking for additions. Also any sources on how to replace the grill cloth ? Mines pretty nasty like it was stored in a foot of spilled beer!Thanks for any info!
Disagree. I have both. They are quite different. t. CL80 more middy. C90 articulate and less mids.. I run 2 Dean Markley CD40;'s. simultaneously. 1 with the cl80 1 with the c90 . Sounds nice .
That's one of my favorite amps too. I'm thinking it is like 89 pounds though. I think the head version is about 50 pounds. And, it might be easier to drag around an 89-pound combo with wheels than a 50-pound head (then a second trip to the car for the cab). I'm just getting too old to drag around that much weight. But, for people playing out on the spur, most people are probably like me. Am I going to load up one of my heavy tube amps, or am I going to grab that twenty-pound solid-state amp and a pedal, and mic the thing when I get there? I usually end up taking one of the lighter amps. That really is a great sounding amp though!!! I wonder if the 50-watt version has all the features and reduces weight considerably?
Unfortunately we had some issues with it, which is a shame but we are restarting the series soon and making it better, so fingers crossed it'll be out before the end of the year.
In my opinion, the best amp ever made! Awesome tone!!!
Yeah they are a great amp... We should hopefully be doing some videos soon on the Lonestar, turning it into a 4x10, head and cab etc.
I have been told that they stopped making this amp. I’ve never been able to afford one. On the lead channel you can set it fairly clean and still get sustain. No other amp I have ever found can give you that. I don’t play out any more so price is hard to justify. And from what I have found so far they cost more now than they did new. But one day if the good Lord allows I will have one.
Running a Lonestar Special 1x12 combo with a Celestion Alnico Ruby, fantastic on both channels. Key control is really the treble knob, and keeping the bass knob suited to the room/wattage setting. The Mesa manual of your 100watt version is worth a read of you haven't already, can be found online. 👍
That is fantastic advice, thanks for that. I have found I have to use the eq a fair bit depending on the situation, more than a lot of other amps. I think we will probably end up trying quite a few alnico speakers in this one.
I only saw this video today. I have a Lonestar Classic 2x12 with the same tolex cover as the one you have in Blue Bronco (I think it is called.) And I have a 1x12 Lonestar Special. One thing I do with both amps, and both channels, is I keep the Bass knob right around 9-10 o'clock. Another thing I do is I run the Master volumes pretty high, and then use the Output to control the volume. That way I can push the pre-amps and still have tolerable volumes. Doing it the other way, though, where the Master volumes are lower and you turn up the Output yields good tones, as well. Looking at pictures on my amp, the Masters are set at about 11 o'clock, and the Output is at about 9 o'clock on both channels. The Mesa manuals always talking about the Treble and how the higher up you turn it, the less the Mids and Bass knobs affect your tone. Turning up the treble also adds gain. My Lonestar Classic is the 100/50 watt original version. Later versions could also do 10 watts. I run mine like this from left to right on channel one: Gain 1:00, Treble 1:00, Mids 1:00, Bass 9:00 to 10:00, Presence 1:00, Master 11:00, Wattage Toggle 50 watts, Output 9:00, Power switch to Tweed. And on the back, Tube Rectifier and Effects Loop level at 11:00 (even if I'm not running any pedals through it.) I think for most people these would be a pretty good starting point.
Hey guys! My fav amp. Are you still going forward with this project? Cant wait to see what you gonna do with it. Please do some speaker swaps with it. Thanks!
Amazing amp. I use mine for almost every recording job I do and it always sounds amazing, just put a mic in front of the speaker and you're done. There is a simple mod that I've done to mine (referred on the forums as the "Reeder mod") which involved swapping two of the pots around on the second channel. As you know it's quite a dark sounding amp and the mod opens up the 2nd channel a bit as it makes them voiced the same.
What do you mean by swapping the pots , which pots are you referring to
@@frankquinn1296 You swap the gain and master volume pots for channel 2. Google search "Reeder mod" and you'll get everything you need.
Great video as usual.
Another reason why I’ve just placed an order for a cab from you guys (did that yesterday, now waiting excitedely to hear from you).
Am looking forward seeing the transformation you’ll do with the Lonestar. Splitting it into a head and cab would make it easier to haul around of course.
Whatever you decide, it’ll be fun to see what the result will be.
Cheers
Ah excellent, I literally just opened your email.... email responses are a bit slow on Fridays as we are usually booking parcels in for most of the day. Yeah they work great as heads, they are really heavy amps... going to be even heavier when we load EVs in there ;)
Was there a part 2 of this?
Firstly, I love your playing. Secondly, really nice video.
I use one exclusively right now. I find the combinations of sound you can get out of it extraordinary because Mesa tone knobs are so powerful. I use a Reverend lead pedal on my clean channel when I wanna get that bite, when I want to have a really clean crystal clear sound for my rhythm and then when I want that crisp yet full bite for leads I use the Reverend pedal. The Reverend even works On the drive channel, though I use others too depending on application.
Thanks, Joe is a great player. I really do love the Lonestar. I've never sat down with it enough to fully utilize what it can do, but it sounds like you are giving it a proper good going over. Thanks for watching.
Perfect video! (Personally I love this amp, this « thick » tone on the lead Channel and the dynamic when you use the volume knob on the guitar..)
Can't wait to see part two of the Video 😊🎸
Thanks Kevin, I do think this is a real players amp. Thanks for watching.
I'd leave this amp AS IS!!
I think this tone is just right. VERY NICE!
GREAT VIDEO
CHEERS!
A year ago i was in contact with paul and he was going to see how small a shell for the head and how light he could make the shell given the chassis is not small.... so watching with much interest in this series. Still interested in changing the head for a lighter she'll. ..
Hi Danny, we can get the shells down to about the width o the chassis plus the wood. But they are still pretty big shells as there is a lot to them. I prefer the slightly wider version which is what I think we will go for with this one, but I can send some pictures of the smallest head.
@@ZillaCabs thanks guys, as a matter of interest is this still accommodating the reverb tank or does taking that change things much?
When I picked up my Mark IV head, I also picked up a quarter stack (2 speaker) cabinet in a Mesa road-ready configuration and it has a Celestion and an EV in it. At my skill level I don't push the thing hard enough to tell you whether it is good or bad, but apparently Mesa could not decide which speaker either.
I just got a Fillmore 25 that I'm playing through a Studio Pro vertical 2x12. Not exactly apples to apples, but it's similar enough that I'm really looking forward to seeing where this series goes!
Hi Adam, I've heard the Fillmore amps are great, I don't think I've tried one yet but Im looking forward to it for sure.
Paul really looking forward to this series... an awesome amp that, as you say, there isn't alot of info that compares different speakers. With my LSS head I've run the following
Mesa 1x12 EVM12L semi-open
Mesa Recto V30 2x12 horizontal
Vintage late 70's Peavey closed back, ported front 2x12 with Black Widows
70's 2x10 semi-open back with G10N-40s (a retrofitted combo cab)
Custom 2x12 vertical split with semi-open back top, closed bottom with an EVM12L and Eminence Lil Texas
Each cab is so different, at this point to my ears the vert 2x12 seems to be the best balanced single cab, but running the 1x12 EVM with the Recto is nice too. Two EVMLs may be too much EVM tone & weight wise for one to handle :)
Thanks Albert, it sounds like you've had a lot of fun trying all this out. I'm looking forward to the EVs but right now the combo weighs a ton, its going to be ridiculous with a pair of those!
Just bought an almost identical lonestar..(grill condition) here in America. Two questions, which overdrives were you using? Sounded transparent/awesome! My ews Brute drive just adds to much character. My Jhs AT+ sounds incredible but looking for additions. Also any sources on how to replace the grill cloth ? Mines pretty nasty like it was stored in a foot of spilled beer!Thanks for any info!
Lovely sounding amp.
I think it is one of my favourite combos. Thanks as always for watching Patrick.
Anxiously waiting!
410 please😎
We had a few setbacks but those videos are coming soon.
I think the Celestion C90 black shadow is basically a slightly modified Celestion CL 80 with a slightly higher power rating.
Yeah that is what I have always expected, from how they play and react. I think we'll do a video on that at some point too.
@@ZillaCabs please do the video:-)
Disagree. I have both. They are quite different. t. CL80 more middy. C90 articulate and less mids.. I run 2 Dean Markley CD40;'s. simultaneously. 1 with the cl80 1 with the c90 . Sounds nice .
Epic playing !
love this amp, I will one day be able to afford one.
They are great amps. Thanks for watching.
If you get one it’ll be worth every penny. :)
That's one of my favorite amps too. I'm thinking it is like 89 pounds though. I think the head version is about 50 pounds. And, it might be easier to drag around an 89-pound combo with wheels than a 50-pound head (then a second trip to the car for the cab). I'm just getting too old to drag around that much weight. But, for people playing out on the spur, most people are probably like me. Am I going to load up one of my heavy tube amps, or am I going to grab that twenty-pound solid-state amp and a pedal, and mic the thing when I get there? I usually end up taking one of the lighter amps. That really is a great sounding amp though!!! I wonder if the 50-watt version has all the features and reduces weight considerably?
I’ve been trying to find a empty head for my LS combo for some time. An amazing amp but ungigable based on the weight. Any advice?
hi, we make them. Send us an email and I'll get the info over to you.
What about testing the Celestion G12-65 in that Lonestar?
It's a great speaker in the lonestar. We've got some more videos coming out soon.
great amp, try using jenson black birds speakers
Great, I'm trying to sort a few Jensens out at the moment.
That must’ve been loud sitting that close to it at those levels. Zowza.
stick a couple dv-77s in it and give it a roll cage!
We've got a bunch of DV77s heading over from the States. I'll be giving them a good testing for sure.
hi there, where is part two. LOL!
Where's part 2?
Unfortunately we had some issues with it, which is a shame but we are restarting the series soon and making it better, so fingers crossed it'll be out before the end of the year.
Awesome, thanks
Too bad you are playing a shitty PRS. Sounds terrible.
I take it that's a joke right. The guitar sounds great.
@@ZillaCabs uh no. Sounds thin….looks like plastic.
Ah, we’ve found the “annoying, pretentious music guy.” Hopefully you don’t work in the industry, you probably do though.
Jesus Fuckin Christ that PRS sounds like a toy.