@@monomono then they shouldn't present it as a review from a 3rd party, he says 'they' not 'we' when referring to Antelope, despite having worked for them and sounds like he's reading a press release. From the comments and likes I'm not the only one that thinks a review should be independent and transparent. I occasionally do product reviews myself but I think you have to be very clear about your relationship with the company.
@Wayne Brown I'm well aware, I often review products from audio companies myself. My objection is that the 'reviewer' here was employed by Antelope, so the review is unlikely to be balanced.
@Wayne Brown I'm not screaming anything, the title was edited from review to overview, (likely after mine and others comments). He also says 'my review' in the opening line. Sometimes when I review a product the company who makes it will feature it on thier own channels or social media but I always state where a product was given for free or if I have any involvement with that company.
@Wayne Brown it seems you've not read my comment properly so I don't think we can go any further on this. I'm sure there are lots of other cases like this one of reviews being presented the wrong way or without transparency, I've said the same thing about RME when they did it. If you don't mind being mislead then that's fine but myself and everyone who has agreed with my comments prefer things to be more transparent.
This would be more believable if you gave out the device to someone not affiliated with the company. This is just an advertising, the marketing material read from the monitor. Give it to Sonicstate or someone who would actually put it through its paces and has an actual reputation as a reviewer.
The Discrete 4 SC is AMAZING. Coming from a MOTU I’ve had for a while the 4Pre it is totally worth the investment. I was surprised. There is a learning curve when it comes to routing on PC but I like learning 😉The raw sound quality is totally noticeable instantaneously. I couldn’t believe it man great great interface. I was stuck trying to choose between this the Audient ID44 and the Arturia Audiofuse. Totally glad I pulled the trigger on this bad boy. Many thx!!!
Nice review. This interface seems to be very good. You presented it most professionally. I really like how solidly built and good looking Antelopes interfaces are and the spec's of course. Just still concerned regarding what I've been hearing for a while regarding their Product Support. I really hope they have changed in that aspect. Customers want and expect many years of Updates and Support for their chosen Interface's. Antelope, I've read and heard Great reviews and opinions on how good and great your interfaces sound.
I see this examples are shown on Mac OS and seems to work perfect. As it should. Its a pity on Windows with usb connection sometimes there are problems like pops and cracklings. With Thunderbolt in Windows you need to workaround with a virtual mixer in order to detect the interface... All in all I think this device is more recommended for Apple users.
I've been going crazy for days trying to send the click on the headphones to the drummer to play live sequences, I have synergy core 4 interface and I use logic pro x. I have a mono audio click for example on logic track 3, I select output 3 I put the headphones on the analogue outputs and nothing is heard !!!! I have tried them all, I'm not very practical, surely I'm doing something wrong, could you make a video about it or please give me an explanation here on the comments too?
it's there now and free for another day or two with bundle they've been running the last month or 2. they have a sick deal including free 695$ modeling mic and extra plugins until the end of the 31st i believe.
So, in 2021, does this still hold up to the new zen go or zen tour or even beat them in certain areas? Also, mixing in post. I know you have real time plugins, but what about when you record dry, and mix in the box after recording post production mixing. Are the plug ins on your computer like any other plug in, so you can tweak and mix, or do you have to use like a hardware insert and print to track, meaning no tweaking after the fact.
The Discrete and Zen devices are separate lines with a different form factor and different features. The Discrete 4 SC has 4 combo mic pres, 4 line outs and 4 headphone outs, as well as ADAT, S/PDIF and word clock connectivity. They also differ slightly in terms of conversion - all of this information is available on our website. In terms of effects workflow, they do differ only in the design of the control panel. The technology is the same and yes, as the processing takes place in real-time in the actual interface, you do need to print the audio into your DAW. Hope this helps! Please don't hesitate to reach out to our technical support team if you have any further questions. Our support is available 21 hours a day during the business week and would be more than happy to assist - support.antelopeaudio.com
So you can't use the premium pack and the included AFX2DAW plug=in with this new Synergy core? I just bought this 40 days ago. This is kinda disappointing
I found this overview thorough, despite the complaints of others. But, is it true the AFX2DAW is only for Mac? I'm a Windows user. Has this been added yet?
The drivers are usually finicky with windows. You can still use the AFX like a hardware insert though as long as you use whatever the I/O plugin is in your DAW and use the routing matrix for that
@HaveMercyMissPercy they're probably tired of that particular question! Lol I got the unit anyway. Great sound. But I sent it back. The apollo just had better specs, and less routing to deal with.
To the Top left of the mixer window power button there to cut off Unit or three buttons on front Hold down the bottom button and you’ll see the power on screen Push big Nob will cut it off On the unit is off just push the big knob and it will come on🎤🥁🎸🎶👍🏾
Seriously, USB 2.0 and thunderbolt 2 on 2019? Why not USB 3.1 Gen 2 and Thunderbolt 3 or only USB 3.1 Gen 2 type C? USB 3.1 Gen 2 type C is fully compatible with thunderbolt 3 and is more than enough for every audio interface! Antelope philosophy... 🤔That is keep me away from Discrete 4 and Zen Tour. Maybe on zen tour 2!
Usb 2 and 3.1 C gen2 have no latency difference thats why they dont bother , and thunderbolt 2 is the same speed as gen 2 but then again not the same operation . The thunderbolt 2 port offers more bandwitdth and allows to use afx2daw on mac
@@Jbmkzx wtf are you smocking ? USB 2 is to old and to slow (outdated) and thunderbolt is not a standard (only accepted by intel and apple). USB C 3.x is a standard accepted by all the companies of hardware and software. USB 2.0 - 480 Mbit/s USB 3.0 - 5 Gbit/s USB 3.1 - 10 Gbit/s USB 3.2 - 20 Gbit/s
@@FlorinMC those speed transfer rates do not apply to your audio card latency via your pc bro only media and charging look it up usb 3.1 gen 2 and above has a bigger funnel therefore the bandwith will be better but the speed at which it processes midi and audio card latency is nothing new as if it was thunderbolt therefore doesn't offer any thing without it
@@FlorinMC Even audio cards that have integrated usb c type ports dont offer better latency its more a question of what type of hardware it is even rme babyface pro, claret, and Apollo use usb 2 even if its candy coated
so yeah, you say usb 2 is old? well that's what my claret is running with my laptop the roundtrip latency is 00 ms already so yeah just to get myself clear those transfer rates have fuckall to do with the cardz performance smh
@@AntelopeAudio Except he says "this is my unboxing and review" in the first line. Don't worry though RME do it as well and it feels just as underhanded when they do it.
Please don't call this a review, it's an advert. To pretend otherwise is deceptive.
i mean, its made by antelope lol. I dont think they meant otherwise
@@monomono then they shouldn't present it as a review from a 3rd party, he says 'they' not 'we' when referring to Antelope, despite having worked for them and sounds like he's reading a press release. From the comments and likes I'm not the only one that thinks a review should be independent and transparent. I occasionally do product reviews myself but I think you have to be very clear about your relationship with the company.
@Wayne Brown I'm well aware, I often review products from audio companies myself. My objection is that the 'reviewer' here was employed by Antelope, so the review is unlikely to be balanced.
@Wayne Brown I'm not screaming anything, the title was edited from review to overview, (likely after mine and others comments). He also says 'my review' in the opening line.
Sometimes when I review a product the company who makes it will feature it on thier own channels or social media but I always state where a product was given for free or if I have any involvement with that company.
@Wayne Brown it seems you've not read my comment properly so I don't think we can go any further on this.
I'm sure there are lots of other cases like this one of reviews being presented the wrong way or without transparency, I've said the same thing about RME when they did it.
If you don't mind being mislead then that's fine but myself and everyone who has agreed with my comments prefer things to be more transparent.
This would be more believable if you gave out the device to someone not affiliated with the company. This is just an advertising, the marketing material read from the monitor. Give it to Sonicstate or someone who would actually put it through its paces and has an actual reputation as a reviewer.
It's the Antelope Audio youtube channel, so, what's wrong?
The Discrete 4 SC is AMAZING. Coming from a MOTU I’ve had for a while the 4Pre it is totally worth the investment. I was surprised. There is a learning curve when it comes to routing on PC but I like learning 😉The raw sound quality is totally noticeable instantaneously. I couldn’t believe it man great great interface. I was stuck trying to choose between this the Audient ID44 and the Arturia Audiofuse. Totally glad I pulled the trigger on this bad boy. Many thx!!!
@Wayne Brown yep I sure did indeed lol
I agree. I had an Audient ID14..the output converters on my Discrete 4 are next level in comparison.
not a review if the guy works for you....
Actually, truth be told, I no longer am an employee for Antelope. But, I still like the products and agreed to review it.
Nice review. This interface seems to be very good. You presented it most professionally. I really like how solidly built and good looking Antelopes interfaces are and the spec's of course. Just still concerned regarding what I've been hearing for a while regarding their Product Support. I really hope they have changed in that aspect. Customers want and expect many years of Updates and Support for their chosen Interface's. Antelope, I've read and heard Great reviews and opinions on how good and great your interfaces sound.
I see this examples are shown on Mac OS and seems to work perfect. As it should.
Its a pity on Windows with usb connection sometimes there are problems like pops and cracklings.
With Thunderbolt in Windows you need to workaround with a virtual mixer in order to detect the interface...
All in all I think this device is more recommended for Apple users.
I've been going crazy for days trying to send the click on the headphones to the drummer to play live sequences, I have synergy core 4 interface and I use logic pro x. I have a mono audio click for example on logic track 3, I select output 3 I put the headphones on the analogue outputs and nothing is heard !!!! I have tried them all, I'm not very practical, surely I'm doing something wrong, could you make a video about it or please give me an explanation here on the comments too?
Nice presentation, hows the headphone amp? even M50x almost hit the ceiling, what about plug a hi-z like 770 or 800s
That Orion Studio SC look very intriguing! Too bad I'm a Windows guy and can't use AFX2DAW
does the volume on apple tastature keyboard work as a volume knob
I‘m praying for them to incorporate autotune real time with the added dsp
Heartbeatzofficial I thought of exactly the same!!
it's there now and free for another day or two with bundle they've been running the last month or 2. they have a sick deal including free 695$ modeling mic and extra plugins until the end of the 31st i believe.
So, in 2021, does this still hold up to the new zen go or zen tour or even beat them in certain areas? Also, mixing in post. I know you have real time plugins, but what about when you record dry, and mix in the box after recording post production mixing. Are the plug ins on your computer like any other plug in, so you can tweak and mix, or do you have to use like a hardware insert and print to track, meaning no tweaking after the fact.
The Discrete and Zen devices are separate lines with a different form factor and different features. The Discrete 4 SC has 4 combo mic pres, 4 line outs and 4 headphone outs, as well as ADAT, S/PDIF and word clock connectivity. They also differ slightly in terms of conversion - all of this information is available on our website.
In terms of effects workflow, they do differ only in the design of the control panel. The technology is the same and yes, as the processing takes place in real-time in the actual interface, you do need to print the audio into your DAW.
Hope this helps! Please don't hesitate to reach out to our technical support team if you have any further questions. Our support is available 21 hours a day during the business week and would be more than happy to assist - support.antelopeaudio.com
Can I get a new power supply from you guys for my discreet 4 ? Lost mine
How i can open the filters of my Antelope discrete 4 audio interface in cubase 10.5 environment
Hello Ali,
Please don't hesitate to reach out to our support team via the link: support.antelopeaudio.com
Our colleagues would be happy to assist you!
So you can't use the premium pack and the included AFX2DAW plug=in with this new Synergy core? I just bought this 40 days ago. This is kinda disappointing
Hi, all those fx comes with the unit?
I found this overview thorough, despite the complaints of others.
But, is it true the AFX2DAW is only for Mac? I'm a Windows user. Has this been added yet?
The drivers are usually finicky with windows. You can still use the AFX like a hardware insert though as long as you use whatever the I/O plugin is in your DAW and use the routing matrix for that
can you use fabfilter ,thanks
Can you confirm that this interface is compatible with OSX macOS Mojave 10.14.6 and macOS Catalina 10.5? Thank you so much for your reply
Is there a way to use this as an 5.1 mixing-monitoring system?
Hi!
It is only possible to do so with a surround monitoring controller, but yes, you can use the Discrete 4 Synergy Core for that purpose! :)
@@AntelopeAudio Somewhere deep inside I hoped for a hack with the 4 line out + 2 monitor out :D
@@RustyRRaven did you end up getting one and for the purpose of 5.1? I'm in the same boat.
@@benking8610 I did not really find anything on the topic, so I ended up with the UAD x6. Which is exactly what I need for 5.1
Hello! Super device! What is the total cost of Descrete synergy core4 with delivery to Ukraine in Kharkov region?
Is AFX2DAW available for Windows 10? I'm in the market to purchase this unit with the edge mic.
@HaveMercyMissPercy they're probably tired of that particular question! Lol
I got the unit anyway. Great sound. But I sent it back.
The apollo just had better specs, and less routing to deal with.
Gear for Sound would like to test this one.... independently ;-)
Antelope 😤😤😤
👀... #SoundUpAndTakeMyMoney! 💳 💰 💵 💯
Hymn
This is just so awkward. This guy pretends he bought this? And that he isn’t an employee? Seems like a solid unit though
He used to be a few years ago, when he did shoot the video he wasn't employed by us anymore. :)
To the Top left of the mixer window power button there to cut off Unit or three buttons on front Hold down the bottom button and you’ll see the power on screen Push big Nob will cut it off On the unit is off just push the big knob and it will come on🎤🥁🎸🎶👍🏾
Seriously, USB 2.0 and thunderbolt 2 on 2019?
Why not USB 3.1 Gen 2 and Thunderbolt 3 or only USB 3.1 Gen 2 type C?
USB 3.1 Gen 2 type C is fully compatible with thunderbolt 3 and is more than enough for every audio interface!
Antelope philosophy... 🤔That is keep me away from Discrete 4 and Zen Tour. Maybe on zen tour 2!
Usb 2 and 3.1 C gen2 have no latency difference thats why they dont bother , and thunderbolt 2 is the same speed as gen 2 but then again not the same operation . The thunderbolt 2 port offers more bandwitdth and allows to use afx2daw on mac
@@Jbmkzx wtf are you smocking ? USB 2 is to old and to slow (outdated) and thunderbolt is not a standard (only accepted by intel and apple). USB C 3.x is a standard accepted by all the companies of hardware and software.
USB 2.0 - 480 Mbit/s
USB 3.0 - 5 Gbit/s
USB 3.1 - 10 Gbit/s
USB 3.2 - 20 Gbit/s
@@FlorinMC those speed transfer rates do not apply to your audio card latency via your pc bro only media and charging look it up usb 3.1 gen 2 and above has a bigger funnel therefore the bandwith will be better but the speed at which it processes midi and audio card latency is nothing new as if it was thunderbolt therefore doesn't offer any thing without it
@@FlorinMC Even audio cards that have integrated usb c type ports dont offer better latency its more a question of what type of hardware it is even rme babyface pro, claret, and Apollo use usb 2 even if its candy coated
so yeah, you say usb 2 is old? well that's what my claret is running with my laptop the roundtrip latency is 00 ms already so yeah just to get myself clear those transfer rates have fuckall to do with the cardz performance smh
Antares auto tune 🤤🤤🤤
Don't get me wrong, I have this interface and it's great. But this 'review' sounds like when a new kid that just joined the 7th-grade speech team lol
That's why it is titled as an overview, just an overlook of the main features! :)
@@AntelopeAudio Except he says "this is my unboxing and review" in the first line. Don't worry though RME do it as well and it feels just as underhanded when they do it.
You read like an advertisement. Are you 3rd party?
unboxing here again? hahahahaha, no thanks!