7 ANT COLONIES in 1 ARENA (Part 2) - ANT MURDER, KIDNAPPING, & SAD NEWS
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2024
- I took seven pet ant colonies and placed them into a single arena to discover if the ant colonies would band together to form a polygynous colony. The initial interaction was a bit concerning, however after my subscribers voted to keep the colonies together and follow through with the experiment, the aftermath was truly devastating! Please remember to vote at the end of the video to help me and the ant colonies out. Ant love forever! This video was shot in 4K Ultra HD resolution.
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Colony 1 (14 workers + lots of brood)
Colony 2 (12 workers + lots of brood)
Colony 3 (9 workers + lots of brood)
Colony 4 (9 workers + lots of brood)
Colony 6 (9 workers + lots of brood)
I vote for colony 8 “LIKE” they sustained the most loss so they deserve to have that mansion.
I think they won't be ready for it bc of the loss of workers. Colony 8 is just the queen rn and she can't make tunnels by herself yet bc she doesn't need to so it will probably be a waste
I don’t think that’s how nature works? Ever heard the saying “survival of the fittest”?
@@minikuiyosei5098 This isn't nature at all, though.
Yes!! They won’t need all the space for a while yet but they deserve it!
I think after some recovery time for sure
I think the fact that colony 8 had corpses in multiple different other nests shows that colonies 1-6 must be cooperating to some degree.
That's what I was thinking. Maybe 8 is a different species and he couldn't tell. Why did only 8 get torn up.
@@someguy9301 maybe c8 try to form an alliance in every colony, but c1-6 refuse and killed c8 messenger, some escape and return to c8 tube but die after.. this instance happened also to human world, in time of king and queen, where weak nation ignore by powerful one
@tristan wienen I believe it was colony 7 which was different and so he did not connected that colony to big box and put cotton over their planned test tube socket
@@mahmutyordamli4912 it was because the baby's where all male
@tristan wienen it was colony 7, not 8
I agree with the people saying the first colony had an advantage. Colony #1 walked in alone and already got to the food by the time #2 came, and the very first interaction #2 had outside of their tube was touching a foreign ant. Every other colony afterward could probably smell the other tubes of ants instantly
That's what i noticed, #1 had way too much time to mark the sterile biome as their territory. The other colonies got added too late so they more than likely thought the area they found was owned by #1 for a long time. Seeing as how most of them didn't leave their nests at all on video.
#1
I don’t know if it’s possible for ants to feel emotional but the way the 8th queen was standing over the bodies of her children was honestly kind of sad. It was like she was mourning them, her antennas were drooping over them like she was in disbelief that they were gone like that. I’m new to the insect world so I don’t know much about ants but it’s surprising that she seemed emotional in that moment, very human emotions.
Some humans don’t even have those kinds of emotions
Its actually very common, its called anthropomorphism
@@bottlethrower1544 whaahwhat “
@@bottlethrower1544 don’t you mean personification
I believe EVERYTHING that is “life” can feel emotion it’s only “Human Ego” that makes us think WE are the only species of life on earth who can do anything decent x
My vote goes to Colony 1. Daring explorers, courageous defenders, wonderful workers and great warriors. Deserve a home upgrade. But I also agree with some of the comments that vote to keep the unmated queen as a pet to see how long she and her lazy sons can carry on with help from you. I also have a thought... If you release the queen ant to another colony's nuptial flight, will she have a chance again? Or will she be killed for being a stranger? Theories... Theories....
I agree
i agree to
How can she join a nuptial flight with no wings?
I agree with what you said completely. Now, to try and answer your question with my (very limited) knowledge on ants: I doubt that if let into another nuptial flight, she will mate again. Just a theory, but maybe queens that don't successfully mate, as in never engage in the act with the male of the species, keep their wings to re-join in the next nuptial flight. My guess is that this queen did mate, but it was unsuccessful in some manner and she didn't know because there is no way to know, hence her ripping her wings off and laying eggs. I don't know enough about ants to further my theory, but it seems sound, as many in the original batch never ripped off their wings.
I agree
I think your experimental design was also flawed. You should of attached all the tubes simultaneously. The first tube had an advantage and released pheromones that the tubes detected, thus they did not leave their tubes as quickly. Tube 1 was allowed to essentially claim the territory. It might have been different if they all had the same initial exposure to the arena. Likely would still result in deaths, but it would be an interesting long term experiment to flesh out your hypothesis.
This is what I was thinking too
@@wrath2008 Me too. It seems 1 was most successful and 8 was least.
I agree as well with all of that. I didn't like the fact that he didn't run the experiment out. It's basically similar to any major city. Tribes will unite
@The 143 Pacer You know much more than me. I just have a master's degree in Biology so I know experimental design is very important. If you formulate your hypothesis, it needs to be exact. You have to make sure everything is the same between the control and the treatment groups, all other variables have to be exactly the same. It is really tricky in biology, but not following this can lead to false conclusions. If you are testing if these groups will somewhat coexist, they have to exposed to the variables simultaneously. Starting with releasing one colony gives that colony an advantage. I like your ant experiments and I encourage them. If it may seem cruel, you need to follow a strict regimen to test your hypothesis. Furthermore, I encourage that you write about your scientific findings to an open source publisher like plus one, you can try higher for peer review, but not likely without being accredited. There are not a lot of ant labs, you have a good set up. I would also recommend going to conferences like the entomological society of America. They will appreciate your work I think.
I vote #7 because first we don't know if they are carpenter ants or fire ants because of that if we let them stay there for a bit we will get to see if they get their full color 🎨and also their soldiers are kinda red the carpenters soldiers or majors are fully black and we could learn something from it
I know I am a bit late to the party, but I think you did pull the plug on the experiment prematurely.
All the casualties being from one colony while multiple colonies were engaging in hostilities against it might have indicated that this colony 8 - just like colony 7 you mentioned previously - was from a different species. So while removing this victimised colony from the experiment while it could still recover was the right call, you should've kept the others together for a bit longer. Maybe this would give the Queen 5 a chance at surviving.
I feel it would've been smarter to block off the test tubes before continuing the experiment, so you can keep an eye on them when they're out. I thought this was why you had the arena bare in the first place. I was surprised on your decision to leave them overnight. Keeping an eye on them would've helped the educational part a whole lot as well, because now we don't know what happened. We can just assume what's happened from the aftermath.
It looks like most of the colonies targeted that single colony. And you don't know if the others showed any aggression. This could've very well been clarified through observing, as stated before.
I wish you could've continued the experiment and kept a closer eye on them, but I can't complain, as there's no way I'd pressure someone into risking animals' lives for my own knowledge. Not everything is as important as life and death.
From watching these last two videos I think 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 all might be the same species. They actually might be polygynous. With 8 being the only one raided and losing eggs and workers from 3 others, without any other violence among the rest. I think you should get them tested to see what species you actually have. You might be able to create that massive colony.
Why has nobody else proposed this?? It was my first thought
Exactly because there was one carcass per tube. Makes me think they were aggressive and all the other ones defended their queen. The queen of 8 was literally chilling, their tube didn't get raided. Jonathon you on it my boy.
Up up up upppp
Ohh yeahh lets goo!!!
I agree, 8 could have been the odd one out and the others might possibly Co exist or join together.... I'd say go one more night minus 8 and see what happens, if they attack another end it but I would also add a small nest site to the mix to see if they would band together to make 1 nest
But honestly this was disappointing. You need to learn to record at night and also not stop an experiment. I understand the pain of the loss but really colony 8 is shown to be weak and it lost it's ants unlike the others so something had to of happened. BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP BLUE BALLING US WITH THIS
Right
No doubt... biggest cawk tease ever
Yep
Ikr
Survival of the fittest
Man just wasted 2.7 million people’s time that’s gotta be a record
I feel colony 1 is the strongest to survive in the wild, my vote goes to colony 8 once they become strong again as we honor their losses.
That's not how survival of the fittest works, unfortunately they are the weakest link. Colony 1 is the one that deserves the mansion
@@etho7351 actually 8 is the strongest due to the fast growing eggs 1 just got an advantage by getting released first
RE: The unmated queen. Is there a possibility of moving some fertile eggs into her chamber to adopt and have some workers, or will she not take care of them? Also, if she'd take them, would the presence of workers eggs and males encourage any eggs to develop into a new queen that could pair with one of the males?
I think she would eat them :/
there is a possibility that ants CAN commit incest like The Black Knights
i not sure if that species is able to do it tho
Incest is not very common in the ant world and I don’t believe any camponatus sp. do so. Also, the queen is capable of producing only male drones, she cannot produce queens.
The only way to get new females to mate with the males are during nuptial flight when females grow wings. thats a year off or so. So this is a no go. But i like the idea of fusing the unmated queen with another colony as she is gonna die anyways.
The offspring are all male because that's how ant genetics work out. Males have one set of chromosomes, while females have two. This queen never found a mate to pass on its genetic material and provide the second set of chromosomes needed for female offspring, so she can only make haploid males. A change in environmental conditions unfortunately isn't going to fix that.
The video starts at 4:00, you're welcome.
Each tube had their own half a carcass. Yet only tube 8 was raided. I feel like something was missed in his realizations the next morning. Tube 8 definitely deserved to be taken out and nursed back to health. However, I really think there was more behind the rest; and another day of observations may had really gone the distance.
I never, ever, thought in my 35 years on this planet would have thought I’d be so invested in an ant colony and voting on which one gets the new condo. I voted for colony #1 btw I’m perplexed……. But good content is good content no matter the topic. Great videos and I love your enthusiasm and passion.
yes!
1
I calling me one
I am voting for number one
I just wish all the carnage would have been caught on camera
Definitely colony 8, if you were to release them into the wild now, they would have a decreased chance of surviving due to their lower numbers. Therefore, it makes the most sense for you to take them in and protect them.
yeah i think he/she is rigth. .they need the new house for them. .
I remembered in part 1 he had this assumption that no.8 is another species so maybe that's why it's the only colony had obvious casualty
@@reifk8807 That makes sense to me. If they were the only ones raided and the evidence was with two other colonies. At some point, the culprit colonies had to cross paths with at least a nuetral stance right?
Yea I agree the other colonies are more likely to start a war so if you protect the 8th colony of workers. Make them mass in numbers and thrive with work. Then at the same time make the other tubes smaller every day to push the other colonies closer and see what happens. Rather than let nature take it’s course and allow the more dominante races kill other colonies, I think you should step in and separate the colonies and make them aware that you are there, forcing them to live with each other. Then re introduce the 8th colony with the big mansion full of working ants to the other groups who have been forced to live together and watch them figure something out. This is the only way you can make them all work with each other and maybe overthrow the big colony.
@@reifk8807 i believe he said that was colony 7. you cant see the red and difference in the video
I was slightly surprised to see you kept trying after the first incident in part 1, but understood the knowledge that could be gained to keep going. I first thought the colony that got ransacked was the queen who didn't mate and was like, "wow that's awful they went for the weakest". Glad to see all survived except a few casualties.
Honestly, I think even if they were to merge and create a massive colony there would be some dead workers at the beginning. They need to know each other, test their "strenght" before merging. Also they were all new, small colonies, hungry and feeling the smell of colony #1 everywhere. Their best option was to raid a weak colony.
Also someone suggested #8 might be a different species, that might be what lead to it being raided
The survivors of colony 8 should get the AC ant tower to give them a head start at overcoming their more ruthless cousins, who are more likely to be able to survive being released.
I agree very good point and it can be like an apology to them editing to say after seeing other comments and pinned comment it looks like its not really a good idea it feels like right thing to do when we think about it in a human way but in actuality it could hurt them more
But the colony is smaller so wouldn’t it be a detriment?
The problem with this idea is that they're small, especially now, so they wouldn't use the extra space even if given to them until later when they outgrow their current space. If anything, the more "ruthless" cousins are more ready to move out to a bigger space, but I can see why from a human perspective, rewarding them for murder may seem sour. Best alternative I guess would be to vote for a colony that didn't do the murder on colony 8, if you feel that strongly about it
@@gastonborda5607 Except, that isn't even remotely a problem. Are you so impatient that you can't wait a couple of weeks for their colony to grow? Jesus. I can see from a "human perspective" how little you think of your fellow humans.
@@mikaylaguiang2458 you would put a small colony with barely any numbers left inside a bigger space that they can't even use now over a bigger colony that needs the space now, just because later down the line small colony will have more members? You do you man, I casted my vote. The professional ant keeper event said he doesn't recommend giving colony 8 the space, but no, I'm sure you know better.
My question is, what if colony 1 had the advantage of being released first in the gulag. Maybe the others were hesitant because of colony 1's pheromones. Lets say for instance colony 2 was released first I hypothize that they would have performed as good as colony 1.
I feel like he should have introduced 2 colonies to start, but at opposite ends. Then slowly zero in towards the middle as he added new colonies.
I would have favored a simultaneous release of all of them to even the odds! 😁
I also think this too n u should try the two at a time of the 8 on opposite sides n any who may join together should be added to another project to mix all who joined to see.if they make mass alliance
Love the choice of the word “gulag” haha
I love how you described it as a gulag
I am probably too late, but I think colony 8 and 5 mixed should be mixed together in a nice and beautifu area, as they would most likely cooperate quite well. Then again, I am really new to antkeeping. Keep up the cool videos by the way!
RIP colony 8's late workers.
Neil DeGrass Tyson: Aliens wouldn’t be interested in humans, they’d find us trivial. They’d be no more interested in us than we are ants.
The Aliens:
I would keep queen 6. That’s the one where we got an up close and rare look at her feeding her brood. That’s such a special moment
Same
Yeah I agree 😶🌫️
Same :D
Half way through the vid and your still doing the introduction. Nice dude
27 000 people: let em fight!
Ants: Are you not entertained!
It's not "let them fight".. after the outcome, colony 1s ant surviving, theres a chance that these colonies might acutally work together.. cause if colony 3 really were hostile, they wouldve killed colony 1s ant at the spot.. so most of us voted to let the project continue, With a better approach: supervising them, put them in a smaller gathering spot, opening the tubes all at once so that its a new enviorment not filled with colony 1 pheromones... but instead he left them unsupervised for a nightlong. Like what do u expect? :/ i dont blame him though, let us all just learn from the process.
Just because i voted for keep them together it doesnt mean i want to see them fight
LOOP
I was but it ended as soon as it got good
4:18 “but carlos was a minority” 💀
Mfs when you tell them minority can have multiple meanings
the editing on this video is on point. props to you mate.
Although we can only allow one of the ant colonies to have a home upgrade, I dearly hope colony 8 at least gets an upgrade, minor or major doesn't matter. As long as colony 8 can have a home which they can reproduce and thrive peacefully, it's enough to make up for their lost ant worker's.
Leave it in the wild once there are enough members.
Cool
I think both colony 8 and 5 need an upgrade and the might unite since the both need help and later since they aren’t related they can have more queens come after them
I agree
Yeah but I hope your not saying it should be the only one to keep
I feel sad for what happened to colony 8, watching the queen backed up against the tube protecting the bodies of her kin and the new eggs was heart breaking after the long night, they deserve an upgrade.
this is hilarious bro it’s nature stuff like this happens to all animals, how do you think ya house or apartment is where it is?
it is sad :c but in their situation it might not be good to rehouse them just yet 🤷🏻♂️ I think a colony with more workers is better for this choice
Agreed
@@Galaxy-rj1kj We all know it's nature but some people adore ants and would do alot for them.
@@h0neekl0k you’re right I’m sure AC will give them extra rations to help build them along.
This was very sad but educational thankyou 💜
There’s no antwar, you can leave now
With this we can consider that when only 1 colony in a mix up is foraging, very likely it's a monogynous species. The other colonies stayed back in order to avoid interaction.
I wonder what would happen if he had them in one tube that separates them with "mesh" so that since birth all of them would be familiar with the scents and pheromones of the other ant colonies? They may not even be able to distinguish one from the other after long and only acknowledge all 8 together as "normal".
@jacco koet Or maybe it was the unlucky one when the other colonies decided to be slightly more adventurous. Can't stay stuck at home base forever when you have a colony to feed.
@jacco koet could be it was the weakest which made them attack her first.
Maybe they all smelled colony 1 so stayed back?
Guy comes up with the interesting idea to record ant interactions but forgets to record the interesting parts of their interactions
Excellent quality and content keep up the amazing work.
I know I don't have much experience in all of this but maybe it will work if you put one random worker ant in colony 5 and maybe they will mate it to an empire 👑
You should have let the experiment continue just without 8. It was the only colony that was clearly attacked so maybe the other ants saw that colony as too weak.
I don’t think he had the stomach for it lol.
@@glengaines4286 they just ants bruv
@@ilikemilk7462 You and your family are also just humans, bruh
@@ilikemilk7462 Believe me I know. I wanted him to keep going with it not pull out.
@@glengaines4286 But you don't want to sacrifice your loved ones so we can have some entertainment right? If you have no compassion, at least respect him for having.
I voted colony 8. Even though it’ll take longer to establish themselves again, it would be so great to see them bounce back and have a large army in the future.
Looks like you don't know much abt ants. Giving a small ant colony a big area can actually make them die.
@@fatpotato3512 yeah i speak from experience i put the first ever colony i had in a massive nest and although they did not die the queen didnt lay eggs anymore and the ants were super stressful
@@daanzoomer2997 yup
I don’t mean to give the colony a larger home now. I mean to give them an open space once they’re ready. I thought he was only keeping one and in MY opinion, I vote for colony 8.
Maybe keep 8 those for a little while before releasing them if you do release them.
GREAT Channel. 110% awesome video. Pt 1 & 2. So glad this popped up in recommended. Subbed.
I feel like it's good to still continue this because it seems colony 1,4, and 6 made an alliance for the slaughter of colony 8
I was gonna say colony 8 deserves the space and new home of their own, but yeah. They just suffered massive losses and staying in a small tube may be a comfort for them. Perhaps instead, a special treat for them? Maybe a different type of jelly that they haven't had before, just for some variety!
If you give them a bigger home for a small colony they can actually die.
If you give them a bigger home while they are low in population it will have a negative impact
Yeah, I figured something like that would happen, that's why my vote's for giving 8 just a nice treat instead
Doing 8 will not let them hydro regulate nor thermo regulate which will slow or prevent growth and might cause death hence the small ant population
@@6Vex they can get lost of die of exhaustion.
I'd love to see colony 1! they seem to be really curious during this experiment and were really the only ones to explore new lands and absolutely hit the jackpot for food indeed. although exploring that much almost got one of them killed, that's really one colony that can thrive.
I suspect Colony 8 was either a slightly different subspecies or somehow the odd-one out, all the other colonies only raided them.
Perhaps 1-7 WERE successfully in the process of merging and 8 was the only one they were preying upon. Even polygamous species occasionally brawl, 8 colonies is a lot of risk.
It's sad that you didn't stick to what the AC family voted.
I hope that we keep colony 7 as well as colony 1. I feel like we can learn more about these two potentially different species of carpenter ants by observing their behavior in a more natural environment. Perhaps they would exhibit different nesting behavior or different levels of aggression towards prey?
Yeah I also want 1 and 7 to be kept
1 over 7?
@@mp5952 oh I want both. I just feel like its a given that we'll keep 1 at this point
You made me feel sad about ants... I never thought I would ever feel any emotion towards such tiny little insects... probably the best video by far about ants... my son he’s 8 yo and I thought he was acting a bit weird for always telling me not to squish the ants but after watching this video with him has made me closer to him as we now share the same views on ants, thank you kind sir!
Exept cocroaches those things do not deserve to live
@@Hitokiri1912 or bedbugs. Had them once and I've done EVERYTHING to make sure I don't get those Satan spawn again. 💯
@@vlmxst784 wow unsanitary did you get more sanitary so bedbugs dont bite
Ants got a mention in the Bible haha. They are quite amazing and very human like in terms of civilization. Some species even shepherd other bugs for sugar!! They build bridges and rafts out of their bodies.
It's been discovered the way they interact and communicate on a macro level is similar to how our neurons and electrons in our brains operate and interact
Lol true
well this was a waste of time
You should have let the experiment go on I was waiting for a war to happen and or for a colony to come out on top but know you had to stop the experiment for no reason
I vote colonie one. it looks like they have already learned how to scavenge, so they would be perfect.
Me too I vote colony 1
Dude for me colony8 poor them and u guys want the best one shoulved been the poor colony that got raided who know they might be better than the other colonies
SAMEEEEEEEE
Me too they seem to really know how to scavenge and it is perfect to give their very first new home
Yes
I truly believe that the fact that the experiment was cancelled made all of the ants deaths pointless. We basically learned nothing from this experiment except carpenter ants of "Probably" the same species "Could" or "Could not" attack each other. Which was exactly our starting point.
It was a waste of ants lives, resources, and of course, everyone's time since no certainty nor new hypothesis was achieved.
I burn ants for fun
Agreed
We have to send support to ants canada
No, it's quite obvious they don't like each other. Even the very first meeting it's clear the scout from nest #1 didn't want to be there at all, even though she didn't get immediately killed. Combined with what appears to be at least repeats of the same situation the next day but this time occurring in the deaths of the lost scouts, it's really quite obvious what the result is.
I am an ant lover and felt terrible when seeing the death of the ants, especially The one torn in half, he was right to call off the experiment, I think you just wanna see an ant war not experiment, all thatd happen would be more raids and deaths just to learn what we just learned, these carpenter ants aren't going to mix.
And it wasn't a waste of anything, we got our answer so it wasn't a waste of the lives, those resources were there to feed the ants to keep them alive for the next vid so not waste of those, and it ain't like your time is prescious, you're watching videos about ants.
They’re just ants. “I nearly cried” “my heart dropped”. Big UA-camrs are so fake and put on a weird act
I wanted to see what happened. It's a shame you separated them. It would have been interesting to see if any would have made alliances
PS: re the unmated female, it would be interesting to see if there is a change in behaviour if you keep putting food into their home. Except for when you need to change their water supply, so (I assume) you will "encourage" them to go into an identical, clean tube, they're unlikely to ever need a larger home than the one you've given them (perhaps the larger Ants Canada test tube to give them room to stretch their wings? There - got a plug in for your store!). But hunger might compel the queen and the males to actively get the food you'd supply in their tube. Whether that would encourage them to share is unlikely (though maybe not impossible? Evolution has occurred in part by selection due to behavioural adaptation as well as natural selection on physical grounds, after all). If they could keep themselves alive this way, they might live until the next nuptial flight. It would be great to see if the queen could at least fulfill her destiny.
It would be cool to see a kind of pet ant queen! Like a cat.
Yeah good idea but I dont know if the queen will grow new wings for nuptile fligth or if she even needs those for this event
hm
@@clashpat9874 they mean for the male ants to reproduce
it would be just wasting the setup because we know it will die :( .
I can't believe you didn't have it recording 24/7 would have been nice too see exactly how this all happened
The views your seeing of specific ants are from him getting close with a separate camera and filming them. If it was unmanned, you would never be able to tell what's happening
@@secretgirlnow I'm sure we could have figured something out through the small black specks travelling across the white pebbles from a birds view. Wouldn't have the level of detail he had going into each tube, sure. But; we'd atleast have an idea of how the night went down.
Yeah who cares about some ants dying - I can't believe this guy is pretending to get emotional about a bunch of ants. If he's that 'concerned' he wouldn't be experimenting at all. Ants have a very short lifespan and have no ethical problem with killing other ants, insects or animals. What a wind up this video is.
Honestly I am disapponted the experiment failed, would've loved to see the ants work together and create a mega colony, but I'm also happy they were seperated before things got completely out of hand.
I’m just saying, since multiple ant colonies have ant carcasses, the rest of the colonies might have formed a team and took out colony 8. It would explain why their are carcasses in different colonies.
that sounds interesting
I agree with you, leaving it overnight will result in much more death if they didn't team-up. It makes sense that those colonies with ant carcasses might have a neutral pact or something.
I was thinking something along these lines as well when watching the video. The thing is that if they were all warring with one another, then there wouldn't be only one victim, let alone that one colony's dead being spread across multiple colonies. It seemed like the other colonies simply rejected this one.
“Formed a team” no they wouldn’t of lol.
@Malik Baraki That's some pretty rigid thinking. Ants aren't really "1 or 2 option" creatures and it was definitely clear that only one colony was attacked by multiple other colonies. They might still have attacked other colonies later on, but this example definitely showed that multiple colonies participated in ant war with one colony and not multiple.
For viewers: Part 2 Starts at 5:39
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or it would start there, if he bothered to record any of it
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And ends at 7:39
cant imagine your heart was broken to see few ants dieing, as you knew this would be the case, i m gonna call you a drama-queen, but still a good solid ant documentary
so with colony 5... Mother-son mating (oedipal mating), as queens typically avoid inbreeding, mate only early in life and do not mate again after having begun to lay eggs. In the ant genus Cardiocondyla mating occurs among sib in the natal nests. Sex ratios are extremely female-biased and young queens face the risk of remaining without mating partners. Here, we show that virgin queens produce sons from their own unfertilized eggs and later mate with them to produce female offspring from fertilized eggs. Oedipal mating may allow queens to found new colonies when no mating partners are available and thus maintains their unusual life history combining monogyny, mating in the nest, and low male production.
I never once thought I would be so entertained watching ants.
And I have to say it was mostly due to your enthusiastic narration of the experiment.
Don't know why episode 1 popped in on my autoplay, but YOU had me hooked before I could skip and couldn't wait to see part 2.
Great production value, very informative and pretty entertaining.
10/10 will watch more!
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Seriously. I laughed so many times but it was interesting
This is exactly how I came across both videos !!!
Right?! It’s so well narrated!
Truer words have never been said
As a fellow keeper of the family Hymenoptera, (bees) maybe it would have worked if they had been allowed to blend scents first? The same way that when you introduce a new queen to a hive, you put her in a queen cage and let the bees acclimate to her scent in their own time?
How long does that take with bees? I've successfully had a colony of Pseudomyrmex Gracilis ants, that lost their queen, adopt a new queen I caught. I probably got lucky because I just put her in with the colony and they treated her like family. But I tried it again with a different colony recently and it didn't work. I kept her in a test tube with a metal screen blocking the entrance and placed it in the colony's outworld for 2 weeks. But when I released her she roamed around for a few hours, it was during the night, and when I woke up she had been killed. Is there general time limit for them to acclimate to the scent?
@@antsi2931 for bees? A matter of days.
it was/is very sweet how he felt the loss of those ants. people dont think twice about snuffing out a ant usually, life is life in my book, just thought i would share,, thanks for sharing AC,, never STOP Loving,,bobble&Mr Tao,xx
3:51 the only problem with taking votes is the human inclination to “follow the crowd”….this definitely doesn’t apply to everyone, many are leaders and have strong opinions uninfluenced by others, but many are heavily biased by popular opinion.
Also, many of us are by no means ant experts, myself included. If I held a vote, I would ask the audience to note if they had experience raising ants.
Finally, plenty of casual viewers and fans have asked to see ant fights and chaos, so would their votes have been made in good faith?
Better to have consulted an ant expert first or encyclopedia to see if this species was inclined to integrate with other colonies or not.
I love your channel. I am hooked on your newer Vivarium series, and really enjoying some of your older content!
I'm not necessarily well informed on the behaviour of ants, but when I saw most of Colony 8's workers huddling under their Queen, and somehow it ended up looking like the Queen was protecting the rest of her nanitics just hurt my soul. That poor colony.
It was very sad
This is why i think 8 should get the new setup
it was kinda funny
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@@dewgleog5239 Having a small colony in a Huge set-up is bad, im guessin they might die.
Colony 1, for sure! They have been through so much and were featured on the channel so much. They were like the “star colony” on this journey so far. I think they really deserve a new and better home. And since they have grown to a larger size, I feel like that they should really deserve a new home. But, I also have a feeling that it’s still too early for an AC ant tower. Like you mentioned in a video a while ago, when giving a starting ant colony a huge home too early may result in huge stress of the colony. Maybe an AC test tube portal with a second test tube for some more brood and worker space, perhaps? You can decide, AntsCanada.
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I think so to you are right
you are seriously great sir ! I am speechless ,,, to me it seemed like a great story
Ahhh that’s weak!!!! Colony 1 said “THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!”
You should have left them, and bread from the survivors...only the strong survive...
To anyone with Entomophobia here: yea we’re sweating watching his vids but you can’t deny his passion for the ants. Rly cool to learn and watch.
What?
I feel the same way
Wished to see progression of events, felt like there is some hate for 8th colony from all other.
Shame that we did not see the night events.
totally agree
Why TF would they be here and watch in the first place? And his passion got nothing to do with their phobia, what a dumb post
As a long time watcher of this channel I would recommend to keep colony 7 regardless of how the votes turn out. They seem different in nature then the rest so they should be kept so we can see if there are any differences between them and the other colonies. Ant Education to the max!
i support this suggestion!
Carlos said not risk ant lives? bro ants die everyday 😂💀
To separate the ants due to an emotional response is a slap in the face to science. From the moment you placed those ants in a test tube, took away from the naturality of the situation and you should have been prepared for any negative consequences, which is often the case in unnatural scientific study. I appreciate your work and thank you for your contributions to science.
Most of his videos are clickbaited lol
@@chillthefckout2582 Forbidding human experiments is a full haymaker to the face of science. Yet, she's a tough girl and surely can take it.
Seriously. I was so interested to see what would happened but now I’m just uninterested.
100% agree, it's sad he is smotional about this... I wanted to see why the Queen was not killed in test tube8...
I really enjoy this Chanel until now, abit childish to remove and stop the experiment
He mentioned early on that the goal was not to have war. Albeit it is clickbaity. Its kinda not the point of what is going on here.
Recap ends and video starts at 5:37
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Thank you so much !
Yeah but then nothing happens....
Dude likes the sound of his voice
its so sad that colony 8 lost all of its worker but i hope you keep making videos like this. i really wish i can meet you in real life
I feel like the experiement could have worked, if it was done on a much smaller scale. 7 newly forming colonies in such a tiny space, during their most vulnerable time of development... it would have been a huge cross over of unfamiliar scents and might have created a hostile environment just from the conflicting signatures alone. The feeling of 'it's not safe' and '1 food source' to compete over.
But, with that worker from colony 1 that they had taken to the queen in 3... They didn't kill her. Those two colonies (alone) might have been able to mix under supervision, since there wasn't outright hostility, and via that, they had the most exposure to each other.
I think with most animals, it's better to start small and slow, not big and rushed.
I agree. He got impatient with the experiment and decided to rush things instead of taking it slow and seeing what would happen. As a result, the ants probably felt like they all were in competition with each other and probably felt the need to defend themselves instead of helping each other.
Yeah, he had the right idea in the last video when he said he was going to introduce them one at a time, but then he got really impatient for some reason, so instead of doing that he pretty much added them all at once.if he would have waited till they actually had aligned or fought to the death, he might have been able to avoid what happened to 8. It just may have happened on a smaller scale to a different colony.
He did a lot wrong. It’s kinda offensive (as a researcher) to see him calling this research. I’d fail the protocol so fast it might set a return to sender record. 🤷♀️ He needs to either acknowledge he’s an entertainment channel and he chose the path of violence to ants for views, or he needs to partner with someone experienced in designing ethical animal research experiments, and no longer do this half-baked and rushed projects.
@@khills Bullshit, ive been watching his vlogs for YEARS, and i can tell you one thing. He would never chose violence for views.
@@blackshadow-_-c9441 Congratulations, you have a different opinion that you cannot support other than “my feels!” Since you obviously aren’t changing your opinion based on the literal evidence in front of you, you can surely understand why “my feels” isn’t going to convince me I’m wrong. 🙄
Ok i might get backlash for this, but i have a theory.
You know the red-ish carpenter ant colony? Well i was thinking, if that was a different species, so could the others. I recommend you send a worker to an ant biologist for a proper ID. On all the ant colonies. Whilst you wait, make theories about the results if you want. Im mainly focused on the fact that only a single colony was attacked, the others were fine (except when the worker was dragged, and it wasn't killed) Im not saying you should, i just say its my theory. I believe you should check species. You could place the other colonies in a similar area to see if they merge, It might cause a war tho idk 'w'
I guess what I'm tryna say is
Only one colony was harmed, that could mean it was a different species to the others, send worker ants to an ant biologist for them to ID it and determine if its polygenous or not
I'm also curious as to why there was a head in three other test tubes. Did 8 send them out and they got the bad end of 1's wandering ant story?
I shared these thoughts as well. Very strange that all other colonies had the same, mutual aggression towards colony 8... as if pre-existing alliances were in place.
My first thought when I heard the idea was "Part of merging is fighting for hierarchy and i doubt they have the stomach for it." Even if they are all the same species with shared linage or whatever I think you could have some queens purged and still end up with a super hive. You won't know for sure until there is one queen left and I know antscanada does not have the stomach for that...
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No 1 video on ants.
I vote colony 1
7:37 they’re ants
For what it is worth. These deaths were not in vain as we gained more information about ant behaviour. These moments are critical for the identification of other potential poly colonies.
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This was old information. Seriously this has been performed by thousands of ant keepers before, even AC knew that before and he did it anyway.
@@Jartran72 Dude, don't even start on that.
We still have no idea what species of ant these colonies actually are, so you can't actually say that when different species act differently.
For all we know, this might even be another species that is currently completely unclassified/unnamed/unresearched.
Experiments like this are necessary when dealing with the unknown, because how else are we supposed to learn?
@@Jartran72 Are you stupid, He can't identify the exact species so he didn't know if they were poly or not.
@@RugaQwarrcall Makes sense
"do you want ants to brutally murder each other?"
"no"
"would you like to see them to?"
"yes"
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I vote for either colony 5 or colony 8 as they had the most amount if loss
Imagine getting kidnapped by stranger ants and forced to feed them. Geniuene ant nightmare.
Sad to say I knew this was gonna happen, saw it coming from a mile away. A good number of us warned they were monogynous and best separated, and it looks like the outspoken minority who voted for that were right. Most carpenters are monogynous, so the chance they were mono was relatively high. But I thank you for conducting this experiment, because now we know a bit more about this species of ant
As for a colony to move into the new home, definitely Colony 1. Their dominance prevailed and remains a thriving colony. They deserve it for being the clear victors of this experiment
We did warn but we were ignored. This was not an ethical experiment. I am very disappointed in AntsCanada.
Agree. This should have been aborted and not been left up to a vote. Squid game trends for a reason. Those voting "keep them together" didnt hope the'd live together happily. They were hoping to see another episode of squid game with ants. I don't think it's ok to do this for views. I'm disappointed too.
Oh grow up, that wasn't his intent, stop with the shaming
On the contrary that was exactly the intent. Everyone voted knowing that it could end in disaster with many ant lives lost. Luckily it didn't happen that way and the experiment was stopped in time, which is the only reason that people are acting calm about it now. Just listen to how upset he was when he found just a couple of ant deaths and one nest plundered with the queen able to recover. That was literally the best case scenario and we knew that, but everybody wanted to see them kept together anyway. How do you think he would feel if it had been a lot worse? What if many of those queens had died instead? There are ethical experiments, and then there are things like this. Ethical it was not.
I wouldn't be surprised if he HAD the footage of the bloodshed and DID NOT to show it and passed it off as "happened overnight". Had AntsCanada wanted an "ant war" for views, he could easily have had one, but he didn't!
This channel is for educational and entertainment purposes, the voting goes in part with that entertainment portion.
AC isn't sadistic and he's not trying to pander to the bloodlust of some of the community, so get off your high horse.
I'm not an ant enthusiast, is it bad that I want a version of this with no holds barred?
I want the same thing. I can get the moral aspect but ants are pests and most don't do anything for nature. Plus ants don't have morals in the wild and will destroy other colonies for personal gain.
@@jacobb17 you guys wanna make an anti-ant video?? Ants vs ants?
I feel bad but i also want an ant war series
Not at all. Disappointed he didn’t go Gladiator style. So lame.
@@jacobb17 - Did you really just ants don’t do anything for nature ? I’m no ant enthusiasts but you have your mindset on ants wrong - just because they aren’t portrayed as adorable as bees - they do almost close to the same thing with different niche - that’s why you find them globally
Let colony 5 go in the wild but keep them next to your house so they are not forgotten
These videos would make a super great novel or movie
For the male colony, since the queen is 'doomed' anyway, no sense in releasing her to the wild. Make her a new pet.
create a customized terrarium where you can easily feed her with minimal waste and what not. See how long you can keep her alive, and release the males outside as needed, ideally when another nuptial flight comes about. Who knows, you may learn some things previously undocumented
This means she would have to scavenge lay eggs and take care of them
She would still lay eggs if feed they would just be useless and therefore require more food sp this is not a good idea.
The Queen won’t last even as a pet. She would have to scavenge the food for herself which wouldn’t be good cuz queens are supposed to save up their energy to just lay eggs. She would have to live in a small enclosure and have food placed next to her. Not worth keeping.
Imagine keeping her as a pet without any workers, like the tarantulas.
Seconding the sentiment that keeping her would be inhumane. Without workers to feed her, clean the nest, care for the larvae, and stand watch, she would essentially be doing dozens of jobs all at once, with no rest, her entire life. And she doesn't have the mental capacity to understand that she's not in the wild and that there's a human out there taking care of her, so she doesn't have to constantly panic about all these survival necessities seemingly not being met. It's sad, but she just wouldn't have a good quality of life.
Im fairly new to this channel but I've been binge watching and just recently caught up to here, but I do have to say shout-out to ant colony 1 they got their lick back for their worker being kidnapped
I know you might think Ant wars are very disappointing and cruel, but the reality is that nature isn't always just love and happiness. No matter what, ant wars are common thing to happen. In fact, if at least kept the ant colonies to go to war. It could have been possible for some colonies to join together on the war. And it's possible. So you shouldn't be worrying about ants being murdered, taken, and feasted alive since we all know bugs in nature are just as barbaric as you can imagine.
10:32 to me I did not vote for keeping them all together just to see an ant war. I wanted to see if in the right circumstances that they could become one colony
I wish Colony 8 will be chosen since they had been through something horriable, so is good to have something for them to feel nicer and might bring the Colony back to life faster
More space isn’t needed for a colony with 2-4 workers. A test tube is ideal for now.
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Crying over ants while eating chicken nuggets is wild
Just as it was getting interesting the experiment ends... really?
My original vote was colony 1, as they were the ones we'd seen growing up, but after seeing what Colony 8 went through...
I vote Colony 8 to receive the Ant Tower (once they've recovered enough.)
Me too. I feel they should get a shot after what happened as well.
Number 2
I wonder what caused 3 diff colonies to attack colony 8, if those 3 colonies first joined together and then raided the other one, or if they got raided once and word just spread that theres a weak colony. Based on how they left their homes one at a time earlier, I'm wondering how it is that the other colony was able to get over run to begin with, the home team would seem to be at such a natural advantage. This all happened while there was plenty of available food in the cage, makes it even stranger to wonder what exactly happened and why.
I wish we had caught more of those interactions on camera, its really interesting to see how ant behave.
the youtuber should have recorded it. he sucks
Wasn't it mentioned in part 1 that colony 8 may have been a separate species?
@@dramaticreaper No, it was colony 7.
you should lay colony 5 in the fridge, they will pass out and eventually die in peace
Why did the colonies all choose to raid and attack the same colony? Had they formed an alliance? Could have been super interesting to see this unfold...
I remember when this guy had 500k bro his growth has been amazing over the years
Quality will always win out!
I voted colony 1 because they adventurous, energetic and every ants have their "lunchbox" 😆full.
Lol :p