Are South Africa-U.S. Relations At A Turning Point? A Conversation With Naledi Pandor
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2024
- South Africa is the most industrialized country and the second-largest economy on the African continent. It is also the United States’ largest trade partner in Africa, even as it maintains strong relationships with both China and Russia. South Africa plays an important leadership role among African countries: it was the first African member of the BRICS group of emerging economies and is the sole African member state of G20. Recent developments have brought the complexities of South Africa’s relations with the United States to the fore-including discussions on the reauthorization of the U.S. African Growth and Opportunity Act, South Africa’s case against Israel at the International Court of Justice, and the recent U.S.-South Africa Bilateral Relations Review Act introduced in the U.S. Congress.
What factors within the country, the African continent and the U.S. are shaping South Africa’s relations with the rest of the world? What are the continuities and changes to expect in the U.S.-South Africa relationship? How is South Africa navigating an increasingly multipolar world?
Join the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace’s Africa Program for a fireside chat and audience Q&A with Naledi Pandor, the minister of international relations and cooperation of the Republic of South Africa.
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Thank you🙏 Mama Naledi Pandor. You make me proud to be South African.
How does it translate to food on our people's tables?
This is like insulting your boss to show your colleagues you fear nothing. 👀🤷
One of the best diplomats to come out of South Africa.. Dr Naledi Pandor
she has a degree in education and was absolutely useless as the minister of education
How is pitting your country against those who will thump it dest diplomacy?
Chinese economy is Cooling as the west is pulling out of China, now how is failing to take advantage of that and instead align with direct competitor best diplomacy?
We should be absorbing that manufacturing capacity, it could change our people's lives in your life time.
But no, all you want is to toyi-toyi Shoei g the west you are strong.👀
Her children are educated in the West and won't be affected by her tea storm.
46:34 he thought he had got her🤣🤣🤣 no buddy, don’t try that, you will be handed your arse.
Truly an inspiration in diplomacy
One of the best decisions Ramaphosa has ever made was to make Naledi south africa's foreign affairs minister. People with confidence in themselves do not miss opportunities like this. What i mean is he did not think about being challenged or found himself in competition with her. all he wanted was a person able to communicate south africa's interest to the world. ANC is full of brilliant intellectuals of different colours and backgrounds some of them ran away to business and private sector. And they are coming back under Ramaphosa, watch the space as they say.
😢Excellent discussion 😤✊🏿❤
starts at 24:20
The video can be seen from 24:24 onwards.
Thanks
As she said, countries have different issues along different variables.
If Iran is not great on women, that is one variable, one issue.
Another country may have an issue with mass surveillance, for example.
WHO makes the determination of what makes up a line of variables that makes one country an "authoritarian" regime and the other not?
True..one good example the United States itself in 2024 is still dealing with variables or issues of how their own citizens are treated,case in point Black Americans who post slavery post Jim Crow era still deal with suttle institutionalized racism from police departments to government in general and the American government turns a blind eye as if nothing is wrong..amongs many issues minorities face on a day to day basis
@@bluecouchpodcast24 exactly, the U.S is very paternalistic, self-righteous and has a complex when they don't have the moral authority to be arbiters of anything.
I love how this astute human being throws knock out punches with a smiling. Change is gonna come, the noise is going to get louder from here onwards!
Well spoken, thoughtful and quick thinker
How long until I can download
yeeeeeees she is one of the best I am proud of NALIDE PANDOR
💯👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Missed it by mistake - can I watch a rerun ? 1:30
Yes it’s still up
South Africa may be small compared to the US, the only things they have against us is their economy, military and influence in geopolitics but we have the moral fabric advantage.
Have you been to China and Russia, or are you just barking? @pleaseandthankyou4161
@@pleaseandthankyou4161moral fabric with partners like Israel, Saudi Arabia and Egypt ?
Like shielding Al Bashir from the ICC arrest warrant??😅
Also South Africa is the entry point for most Western countries wanting to dable into Africa,especially when it comes to stability...South africa has its problems,no doubt but its problems which are manageable and can be talked about diplomatically for the greater good of both nations..No love lost
exactly.. It is also the most human-right aligned country. (Woman's rights and Equality rights). It also houses a lot of western organizations that would be negatively impacted (mines&technology) and South Africa is a lot more food stable compared to other nations where sanctions were affective. If sanctions are applied it may very well have a completely opposite intended reaction. Also think about it domestically - with our politics. It would push people to the far left (EFF) which I don't think Western nations would prefer at all.
I think that they may look into personal sanctions on the exec and prominent tenderpreners. But other than that I would be scratching my head if I was a legislator yohh
@@morairskosana So true..thanks for that affirmation 👊🏾
Masimba. Plenty other entry points, plenty other takers for AGOA benefits.
@@Jouantiese obviously you replied without reading properly... No one said they weren't other AGOA beneficiaries or entry points into Africa.
We just listed the facts... South Ah is the most industrialized economy in Africa with the most American Business present. (Also the US's largest trade partner in Africa) From Oracle to McDonalds, you don't need to go far to determine that SA is a key feasiblity/introduction market on the continent.
School the World Mama.. Babonise and ungaboyoki.. Well done ❤
Minister Pandor is very stately. I think she has been a moral voice in the Globe and hope she continues her activism after she retires.
Quite generous comments about American democracy, given the pervasive gerrymandering, the absurd and foundationally, intentionally racist senate system, the congressional map that sees a wyoming voter worth more than fifty thousand Californians, the direct and sustained procedural and legal assaults on the act of voting, and the presence of literally billions in untraceable money funding most pf the advertising and ground game. Democracy, I guess, kind of.
calling the US a genuine democracy is a stretch..it is a kleptocracy with big corporates choosing politicians
@@lm_b5080 and more and more, becoming a Theocracy in all but name
Greetings. We were subject to sanctions during the apartheid era and it's nothing new so bring it on and just like Russia we will survive..
Naledi must take all of the west on....
Go to school bruh
Duuude...you can say that again..we not new to sanctions..life still went on..same like Russia..they sanctioned but life carries on
@@Amôpeacekgyou go to school it shows you know nothing about our history, your quick to write nonsense while you're the one who dearly need school
He asked questions with the notion that people around the world believes the mainstream media of the West.. He doesn't know
Dr Pandor is standing her ground for truth.
💯👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
The truth of a Marxist hypocrite.
Love amaXhosa akuthi fondin noba basezizweni babhul' izigcawu ngolweenkobe ngaphambi kotya kwelikabaas John😇
I'm so grateful she doesn't think like you. Noma it's about South Africa nifuna ukwenza engathi kungani. Nikhona bo.
The conversation was going so well until the host ruined it with his gotch statement on Iran. The evergy of the conversation tappered off after that his silliness. He starts scrambling after that point and Dr Pandor just lost interest🤷🏾
46:70 she lost me here. What a nutcase.
Naledi Pandor is a brilliant foreign minister. She should be first president of a unified Africa!
North African Arabs might have something to say about that
@@AlbertBormant She's Muslim herself.
Stupidity and ignorance..
1:24:19
Une usine a Laayoune.
The best Moroccan comment 😂
Please, Ma Naledi (Nadia), run for president.
You, she'll sink the country like the one across the Limpopo.
👀
😂😂 below 2 we we are going to sanctions list 😱
What a dead audience, they can't even clap hands.
The United States needs South Africa and South Africa needs the United States...its a need need relationship...United States and its entrepreneurs have invested way too much into South Africa especially it being the most Westernized,Industralized and most developed country on the continent...American interests in South Africa are stable and protected compared to many African states hence the reality of the fact is either country cant afford to jeorpidise (sp) the relationship..we come too far than to screw it up now...
South Africa doesn't need USA. Shut up with that nonsense. What Africa needs to do is unite and become one.
LOL! WTF does the US need SA for, nkwenkwe??
@@dannyarcher6370 our minerals kwekwe endala
The third largest political party in SA, the EFF, openly talks about eliminating the minority White population, like what they did in Zimbabwe.
False, give a link, because the one thing Malema has constantly re-iterated, he has nothing against White people, it's the privileged attitude that is founded on he belief that White is right and deserves special treatment that he's found himself at odds with.
I have issues with some of his attitudes and utterances, but I won't sit for lies being told about him.
share credible references.
Yes. The US relationship with the global majority is deteriorating. A multipolar world is forming. The bully won't be tolerated anymore.
Horsecrap. The US and EU are the world's biggest markets.
China's deteriorating and struggling to compete with India and other Asian democracies for Western business.
BRICs is talkshop at best😅
General scientific globally peace international court rules regulations law Islamic justice dr zaker naik available in world
Naledi!! ...does Putin knows where you are, that you are in the USS?????
Are they dating?
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Umbuzo usamile😂😂😂😂
@@TBC0208 Injalo
Why the hell did the a n c government send this woman to the united states
Lol why not?
you wanted to go boo?
It's her job
Who would u suggest and why?
May be to school them on state sovereignty, democracy and perhaps humanity and judging by the audience reaction the message was well received.
America america america what the F. k