Are South Africa-U.S. Relations At A Turning Point? A Conversation With Naledi Pandor

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  • South Africa is the most industrialized country and the second-largest economy on the African continent. It is also the United States’ largest trade partner in Africa, even as it maintains strong relationships with both China and Russia. South Africa plays an important leadership role among African countries: it was the first African member of the BRICS group of emerging economies and is the sole African member state of G20. Recent developments have brought the complexities of South Africa’s relations with the United States to the fore-including discussions on the reauthorization of the U.S. African Growth and Opportunity Act, South Africa’s case against Israel at the International Court of Justice, and the recent U.S.-South Africa Bilateral Relations Review Act introduced in the U.S. Congress.  
    What factors within the country, the African continent and the U.S. are shaping South Africa’s relations with the rest of the world? What are the continuities and changes to expect in the U.S.-South Africa relationship? How is South Africa navigating an increasingly multipolar world? 
    Join the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace’s Africa Program for a fireside chat and audience Q&A with Naledi Pandor, the minister of international relations and cooperation of the Republic of South Africa.   
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 96

  • @swazirebel7316
    @swazirebel7316 4 місяці тому +8

    Thank you🙏 Mama Naledi Pandor. You make me proud to be South African.

    • @kogaryu5558
      @kogaryu5558 3 місяці тому

      How does it translate to food on our people's tables?
      This is like insulting your boss to show your colleagues you fear nothing. 👀🤷

  • @bluecouchpodcast24
    @bluecouchpodcast24 4 місяці тому +39

    One of the best diplomats to come out of South Africa.. Dr Naledi Pandor

    • @lct9031
      @lct9031 4 місяці тому

      she has a degree in education and was absolutely useless as the minister of education

    • @kogaryu5558
      @kogaryu5558 3 місяці тому

      How is pitting your country against those who will thump it dest diplomacy?
      Chinese economy is Cooling as the west is pulling out of China, now how is failing to take advantage of that and instead align with direct competitor best diplomacy?
      We should be absorbing that manufacturing capacity, it could change our people's lives in your life time.
      But no, all you want is to toyi-toyi Shoei g the west you are strong.👀
      Her children are educated in the West and won't be affected by her tea storm.

  • @YongamaMdabula
    @YongamaMdabula 4 місяці тому +25

    46:34 he thought he had got her🤣🤣🤣 no buddy, don’t try that, you will be handed your arse.

  • @FarisAl-Said
    @FarisAl-Said 4 місяці тому +6

    Truly an inspiration in diplomacy

  • @dollarbrandyakoellis6526
    @dollarbrandyakoellis6526 4 місяці тому +4

    One of the best decisions Ramaphosa has ever made was to make Naledi south africa's foreign affairs minister. People with confidence in themselves do not miss opportunities like this. What i mean is he did not think about being challenged or found himself in competition with her. all he wanted was a person able to communicate south africa's interest to the world. ANC is full of brilliant intellectuals of different colours and backgrounds some of them ran away to business and private sector. And they are coming back under Ramaphosa, watch the space as they say.

  • @sharonjames2041
    @sharonjames2041 4 місяці тому +6

    😢Excellent discussion 😤✊🏿❤

  • @notnow_later
    @notnow_later 4 місяці тому +16

    starts at 24:20

  • @dineshdaya4984
    @dineshdaya4984 4 місяці тому +5

    The video can be seen from 24:24 onwards.

  • @agrid2608
    @agrid2608 4 місяці тому +15

    As she said, countries have different issues along different variables.
    If Iran is not great on women, that is one variable, one issue.
    Another country may have an issue with mass surveillance, for example.
    WHO makes the determination of what makes up a line of variables that makes one country an "authoritarian" regime and the other not?

    • @bluecouchpodcast24
      @bluecouchpodcast24 4 місяці тому +6

      True..one good example the United States itself in 2024 is still dealing with variables or issues of how their own citizens are treated,case in point Black Americans who post slavery post Jim Crow era still deal with suttle institutionalized racism from police departments to government in general and the American government turns a blind eye as if nothing is wrong..amongs many issues minorities face on a day to day basis

    • @palesamogorosi8939
      @palesamogorosi8939 4 місяці тому

      ​​@@bluecouchpodcast24 exactly, the U.S is very paternalistic, self-righteous and has a complex when they don't have the moral authority to be arbiters of anything.

  • @Boy2mello
    @Boy2mello 4 місяці тому

    I love how this astute human being throws knock out punches with a smiling. Change is gonna come, the noise is going to get louder from here onwards!

  • @olebileolebile4847
    @olebileolebile4847 4 місяці тому +3

    Well spoken, thoughtful and quick thinker

  • @malebomailula4950
    @malebomailula4950 4 місяці тому +4

    How long until I can download

  • @anor4505
    @anor4505 4 місяці тому +4

    yeeeeeees she is one of the best I am proud of NALIDE PANDOR

    • @lionchampion587
      @lionchampion587 4 місяці тому

      💯👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

  •  4 місяці тому

    Missed it by mistake - can I watch a rerun ? 1:30

  • @10sofHim
    @10sofHim 4 місяці тому +9

    South Africa may be small compared to the US, the only things they have against us is their economy, military and influence in geopolitics but we have the moral fabric advantage.

    • @Wyden_23
      @Wyden_23 4 місяці тому +1

      Have you been to China and Russia, or are you just barking? ​@pleaseandthankyou4161

    • @wpotgieter
      @wpotgieter 4 місяці тому +1

      @@pleaseandthankyou4161moral fabric with partners like Israel, Saudi Arabia and Egypt ?

    • @Jouantiese
      @Jouantiese 4 місяці тому +2

      Like shielding Al Bashir from the ICC arrest warrant??😅

  • @bluecouchpodcast24
    @bluecouchpodcast24 4 місяці тому +8

    Also South Africa is the entry point for most Western countries wanting to dable into Africa,especially when it comes to stability...South africa has its problems,no doubt but its problems which are manageable and can be talked about diplomatically for the greater good of both nations..No love lost

    • @morairskosana
      @morairskosana 4 місяці тому +1

      exactly.. It is also the most human-right aligned country. (Woman's rights and Equality rights). It also houses a lot of western organizations that would be negatively impacted (mines&technology) and South Africa is a lot more food stable compared to other nations where sanctions were affective. If sanctions are applied it may very well have a completely opposite intended reaction. Also think about it domestically - with our politics. It would push people to the far left (EFF) which I don't think Western nations would prefer at all.
      I think that they may look into personal sanctions on the exec and prominent tenderpreners. But other than that I would be scratching my head if I was a legislator yohh

    • @bluecouchpodcast24
      @bluecouchpodcast24 4 місяці тому +1

      @@morairskosana So true..thanks for that affirmation 👊🏾

    • @Jouantiese
      @Jouantiese 4 місяці тому

      Masimba. Plenty other entry points, plenty other takers for AGOA benefits.

    • @morairskosana
      @morairskosana 4 місяці тому

      @@Jouantiese obviously you replied without reading properly... No one said they weren't other AGOA beneficiaries or entry points into Africa.
      We just listed the facts... South Ah is the most industrialized economy in Africa with the most American Business present. (Also the US's largest trade partner in Africa) From Oracle to McDonalds, you don't need to go far to determine that SA is a key feasiblity/introduction market on the continent.

  • @jabukatshwa
    @jabukatshwa 4 місяці тому +3

    School the World Mama.. Babonise and ungaboyoki.. Well done ❤

  • @K_A86
    @K_A86 4 місяці тому +5

    Minister Pandor is very stately. I think she has been a moral voice in the Globe and hope she continues her activism after she retires.

  • @kennethhymes9734
    @kennethhymes9734 4 місяці тому +7

    Quite generous comments about American democracy, given the pervasive gerrymandering, the absurd and foundationally, intentionally racist senate system, the congressional map that sees a wyoming voter worth more than fifty thousand Californians, the direct and sustained procedural and legal assaults on the act of voting, and the presence of literally billions in untraceable money funding most pf the advertising and ground game. Democracy, I guess, kind of.

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 4 місяці тому +3

      calling the US a genuine democracy is a stretch..it is a kleptocracy with big corporates choosing politicians

    • @Ravens1300
      @Ravens1300 3 місяці тому

      @@lm_b5080 and more and more, becoming a Theocracy in all but name

  • @ramachandraramdewo5476
    @ramachandraramdewo5476 4 місяці тому +9

    Greetings. We were subject to sanctions during the apartheid era and it's nothing new so bring it on and just like Russia we will survive..
    Naledi must take all of the west on....

    • @Amôpeacekg
      @Amôpeacekg 4 місяці тому +2

      Go to school bruh

    • @bluecouchpodcast24
      @bluecouchpodcast24 4 місяці тому +2

      Duuude...you can say that again..we not new to sanctions..life still went on..same like Russia..they sanctioned but life carries on

    • @limpopoRiver
      @limpopoRiver 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Amôpeacekgyou go to school it shows you know nothing about our history, your quick to write nonsense while you're the one who dearly need school

    • @benjaminrougier8696
      @benjaminrougier8696 4 місяці тому +4

      He asked questions with the notion that people around the world believes the mainstream media of the West.. He doesn't know

  • @unathimichaelmxaku8105
    @unathimichaelmxaku8105 4 місяці тому +4

    Dr Pandor is standing her ground for truth.

    • @lionchampion587
      @lionchampion587 4 місяці тому

      💯👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿

    • @Jouantiese
      @Jouantiese 4 місяці тому

      The truth of a Marxist hypocrite.

  • @thekontuli2828
    @thekontuli2828 4 місяці тому +2

    Love amaXhosa akuthi fondin noba basezizweni babhul' izigcawu ngolweenkobe ngaphambi kotya kwelikabaas John😇

    • @zeenhlengcobo
      @zeenhlengcobo 3 місяці тому

      I'm so grateful she doesn't think like you. Noma it's about South Africa nifuna ukwenza engathi kungani. Nikhona bo.

  • @ole6945
    @ole6945 4 місяці тому

    The conversation was going so well until the host ruined it with his gotch statement on Iran. The evergy of the conversation tappered off after that his silliness. He starts scrambling after that point and Dr Pandor just lost interest🤷🏾

  • @amythomspon956
    @amythomspon956 3 місяці тому +1

    46:70 she lost me here. What a nutcase.

  • @lionchampion587
    @lionchampion587 4 місяці тому +4

    Naledi Pandor is a brilliant foreign minister. She should be first president of a unified Africa!

    • @AlbertBormant
      @AlbertBormant 4 місяці тому

      North African Arabs might have something to say about that

    • @mazibukomail
      @mazibukomail 4 місяці тому

      @@AlbertBormant She's Muslim herself.

    • @Jouantiese
      @Jouantiese 4 місяці тому

      Stupidity and ignorance..

  • @BihiBen
    @BihiBen 4 місяці тому

    1:24:19

  • @MrCurpy
    @MrCurpy 4 місяці тому +2

    Please, Ma Naledi (Nadia), run for president.

    • @kogaryu5558
      @kogaryu5558 3 місяці тому

      You, she'll sink the country like the one across the Limpopo.
      👀

  • @n02hbby16
    @n02hbby16 4 місяці тому

    😂😂 below 2 we we are going to sanctions list 😱

  • @musawenkosizulu9274
    @musawenkosizulu9274 4 місяці тому +6

    What a dead audience, they can't even clap hands.

  • @bluecouchpodcast24
    @bluecouchpodcast24 4 місяці тому +4

    The United States needs South Africa and South Africa needs the United States...its a need need relationship...United States and its entrepreneurs have invested way too much into South Africa especially it being the most Westernized,Industralized and most developed country on the continent...American interests in South Africa are stable and protected compared to many African states hence the reality of the fact is either country cant afford to jeorpidise (sp) the relationship..we come too far than to screw it up now...

    • @suezcontours6653
      @suezcontours6653 4 місяці тому

      South Africa doesn't need USA. Shut up with that nonsense. What Africa needs to do is unite and become one.

    • @dannyarcher6370
      @dannyarcher6370 4 місяці тому

      LOL! WTF does the US need SA for, nkwenkwe??

    • @aviweyantolo5023
      @aviweyantolo5023 3 місяці тому +1

      @@dannyarcher6370 our minerals kwekwe endala

  • @AlbertBormant
    @AlbertBormant 4 місяці тому +3

    The third largest political party in SA, the EFF, openly talks about eliminating the minority White population, like what they did in Zimbabwe.

    • @Ravens1300
      @Ravens1300 3 місяці тому

      False, give a link, because the one thing Malema has constantly re-iterated, he has nothing against White people, it's the privileged attitude that is founded on he belief that White is right and deserves special treatment that he's found himself at odds with.
      I have issues with some of his attitudes and utterances, but I won't sit for lies being told about him.

    • @zeenhlengcobo
      @zeenhlengcobo 3 місяці тому

      share credible references.

  • @peterroberts2952
    @peterroberts2952 4 місяці тому +6

    Yes. The US relationship with the global majority is deteriorating. A multipolar world is forming. The bully won't be tolerated anymore.

    • @Jouantiese
      @Jouantiese 4 місяці тому

      Horsecrap. The US and EU are the world's biggest markets.
      China's deteriorating and struggling to compete with India and other Asian democracies for Western business.
      BRICs is talkshop at best😅

  • @pubguc6771
    @pubguc6771 4 місяці тому

    General scientific globally peace international court rules regulations law Islamic justice dr zaker naik available in world

  • @pommie7
    @pommie7 4 місяці тому +2

    Naledi!! ...does Putin knows where you are, that you are in the USS?????

    • @unathimichaelmxaku8105
      @unathimichaelmxaku8105 4 місяці тому +12

      Are they dating?

    • @musa_khalil
      @musa_khalil 4 місяці тому

      @@unathimichaelmxaku8105😭😭😭🤣

    • @abs6754
      @abs6754 4 місяці тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Unathi marn ​@@unathimichaelmxaku8105

    • @TBC0208
      @TBC0208 4 місяці тому

      Umbuzo usamile😂😂😂😂

    • @unathimichaelmxaku8105
      @unathimichaelmxaku8105 4 місяці тому

      @@TBC0208 Injalo

  • @ds-kj8fq
    @ds-kj8fq 4 місяці тому

    Why the hell did the a n c government send this woman to the united states

    • @nhlanhla61
      @nhlanhla61 4 місяці тому +2

      Lol why not?

    • @jabukatshwa
      @jabukatshwa 4 місяці тому +5

      you wanted to go boo?

    • @mikey2348
      @mikey2348 4 місяці тому +1

      It's her job

    • @moeketsithakadi3574
      @moeketsithakadi3574 4 місяці тому +2

      Who would u suggest and why?

    • @dollarbrandyakoellis6526
      @dollarbrandyakoellis6526 4 місяці тому +2

      May be to school them on state sovereignty, democracy and perhaps humanity and judging by the audience reaction the message was well received.

  • @BoetHuman-pk8it
    @BoetHuman-pk8it 4 місяці тому

    America america america what the F. k