Cohabitating & Group Breeding | Leopard Gecko Care (2023)

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  • @Solaxer
    @Solaxer Рік тому +21

    Cohab is a complex and nuanced topic, but because it’s so controversial and even blacklisted on numerous online forums and groups, it’s almost impossible to discuss and learn about
    The scientific literature shows they can live in groups in the wild and their brains undergo change when exposed to conspecifics, but overall there isn’t enough data to form a definitive conclusion on cohab, so it’s up to us, the keepers, to experiment, observe, and share our own experiences to gain a better understanding of leopard geckos and husbandry

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +4

      Yeh ty, very well put, sharing experiences even on controversial topics I think is always the way to grow and learn. That's interesting the studies they did on cohabiting in the wild. Thanks for sharing!

    • @rdnkenki
      @rdnkenki Рік тому

      I love that patterned black night baby

    • @LoFiAxolotl
      @LoFiAxolotl 29 днів тому

      it's really not on amateurs to experiment... that is literally on the experts... like real experts with degrees not people who think they know... being an electrician doesn't make you a physicist... you should not endanger your animals for your perverse pleasure or curiosity

    • @Solaxer
      @Solaxer 27 днів тому

      @ I mean I partially agree with you. I don’t think novice keepers should be cohabbing; most struggle to keep 1 leopard gecko alive, let alone two in the same enclosure. In that regard yea leave it to people who know a lot more.
      That being said, there are no scientists with degrees studying leopard geckos period, let alone in captivity. We have like, TWO scientific papers in existence about leopard geckos and they’re sparse at best. They’re just not a common animal. We will likely never get a paper researching cohabbed geckos in captivity.

    • @LoFiAxolotl
      @LoFiAxolotl 27 днів тому

      @@Solaxer What? There's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of papers studying Leopard geckos... it's an easily accessible reptile... like all easily accessible animals they're well studied...

  • @TheCritterCorner620
    @TheCritterCorner620 6 днів тому +1

    So cool. I might try it

  • @TheDroneDad
    @TheDroneDad Рік тому +12

    I just had to separate my 2 adult females. They had been in their own space but thought it would be good to put them back into a larger tank. Witnessed lots of nipping and pushing anytime one would see the other. So had to split them up again. I think you're spot on that she got used to having her own space and wasn't willing to go back to sharing. Great video!

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +2

      Thanks, Drone Dad and thanks for sharing your experiences as well, we all learn and grow together so appreciate it!

    • @Mothobius
      @Mothobius Рік тому

      @@user-lz5yv6vj2u well it slowly because of the risk of keeping them together. They could be fine depends g on the gecko and enclosure type, space etc. But the reason people say not to cohabitate them is because of the chance. Even if it's a 10% chance they fight or kill it's better to not try that chance in the first place.

  • @gateway-d6f
    @gateway-d6f 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video

  • @404EncrytedError
    @404EncrytedError 9 місяців тому +2

    My 10 yr old leopard gecko wasnt doing well, i was moving and had to temperarily put my other female in with my older one. Well, shes gained over 12 grams back and is the healthiest shes been. No nipping and they're doing great.

  • @darrellhunt4246
    @darrellhunt4246 Рік тому +21

    My son has six geckos. He keeps the two males in individual cages. He keeps the four females in a 4×2×18" pvc enclosure. There are 8 different hides in the enclosure. Never has a problem with them.

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +5

      Nice! Thanks for the info!

    • @IsraelTrevino-to9tf
      @IsraelTrevino-to9tf Рік тому

      How do you know Mel Geico and female gecko?

    • @jenjen0383
      @jenjen0383 10 місяців тому +1

      @@IsraelTrevino-to9tf On the base of the tail, you will see bumps, and a V bumps mean it’s a boy

    • @Your_local_werdio-d5i
      @Your_local_werdio-d5i 8 місяців тому +1

      @@jenjen0383. No a v means a boy. A invisible or slightly hard to see bumps means it is a girl I have a leopard gecko myself

  • @JJCReptiles
    @JJCReptiles Рік тому +2

    Great video frank! I'm happy your uploading more videos they are very educational. :D

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +2

      Thanks brooo, Same, good to see the content you are putting out as well! 🥳🥳

  • @desertdragonworksaz
    @desertdragonworksaz Рік тому +5

    This was very helpful :) I've had my best luck breeding in trios of 1:2. I keep them together in 20 gallon long aquariums that have been turned on their sides, with a conversion kit door that is situated horizontally. I put coco core on the bottom, and three moist nest boxes. I also separate the nest boxes with a little faux greenery, so there are places to hide. Doing this method, I've not had a problem with territoriality or aggression - but there's always a chance. This year, when I decided to try to just take males into female boxes, my very first try has ended up with the female being pretty significantly injured. :( Could be a fluke, could be it's just that pair, but - it makes me wonder! Just goes to show, that not everything is going to work for everybody OR every gecko. Thank you for doing this video!

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +1

      That's awesome too, thanks for sharing Lisa! That's how we all learn different tips and tricks and grow together 🥳🥳 Sorry for the injury, yes that can happen in almost any scenario but good job noticing and taking action 😊😊🦎🦎

  • @allexoticz0189
    @allexoticz0189 Рік тому +2

    Great video Frank! I'm happy you're doing better and posting again. I hope you are back to full health soon.

  • @ReefAndReptileAutomation
    @ReefAndReptileAutomation Рік тому +2

    Great to see you back and healthy! We gotta get together soon man!

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +1

      Yes for sure, you're on my catch-up list, wanna shoot a video with ya!

  • @RodriguezReptiles
    @RodriguezReptiles Рік тому +3

    Great info!!

  • @abalt3019
    @abalt3019 Рік тому +1

    She’s aggressively gorgeous! :) ❤

  • @rdnkenki
    @rdnkenki Рік тому +1

    Excellent. Both sides explained well.

  • @nicholashosmer2144
    @nicholashosmer2144 Рік тому +2

    Right now I have a group together a BN Fascio with a pure black night and a melanistic all grouped I’ll have to get a male in there soon

  • @knowwon3391
    @knowwon3391 7 місяців тому

    Im loving this. Lots of beautiful geckos. I actually have a gecko living with a lil blue tailed skink in a 10 gallon ..and two curly haired tarantulas with a tree frog in a 20 gallon long tank. 🤔 Just got my 1st scorpion...looking for one or two more to make that a community also.
    Edit: ALL my terrariums are bio active.

  • @LoFiAxolotl
    @LoFiAxolotl 29 днів тому

    i do not have extensive experience with breeding or cohabitating geckos so this can only be considered anecdotal... but i have 2 female Chahoua from the same clutch... they get along perfectly fine cohabing they show absolutely no sign of aggressive, being territorial or stress and they live in a large 8"x3"x6" enclosure (was originally meant for a retic that i didn't end up getting)... while i have 2 lady leopards who could not hate each other more.... one of the would charge the side of her enclosure when i had them next to each other and i literally needed to physically separate the enclosures to keep them safe...
    So my anecdotal experience is that it very much also depends on the temperament and how they grew up... my Chewies are same clutch came out of the egg on the same day and were kept in the same tub by the breeder until i adopted them while the Leos are from different breeders etc

  • @DomesticDinos
    @DomesticDinos Рік тому +7

    The problem I have with group breeding is you no longer can track the specific geckos any longer. Some breeders are also not putting the exact same lineage together which then muddies the genetics of the hobby because they don't truly know who is the mother of any eggs laid in that group.
    Even using pure groupings you still can't track the females if something crazy pops out.
    The animals care should be 100% priority

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +4

      Yes, very very good points. As far as tracking, one tip I can give is if someone really wants to track potential new genes or interesting patterns popping up from a specific female, they could document which group specifically each baby came from, I used to do that so if something pops up at least you know its 1 of the 3 females in that group plus the male that created the oddity. But I totally understand why someone wouldn't prefer this style of breeding, it just works really well for larger operations if someone is going down that road.

  • @seanecus33
    @seanecus33 Рік тому +2

    We have done crested gecko breeding for a while now, and decided to try out leo breeding.
    How do you go about heating several baby bins without a rack system?
    Right now I just stack up our crested bins. But seeing leos need the heat, wasnt sure if it was possible

  • @MrsJosephCorica
    @MrsJosephCorica Рік тому +4

    I am currently keeping 2 females, 1 male together in a 70 gal with a PetCube camera to study their behavior. I’m more worried about the girls being mean, than my male since he’s an AFG his personality is exceptionally laid back and sweet. So far I’ve seen him scoot over to make room near the heat source to let one of the females in on it. He’s done that with both of them though. Thankfully 3 out of 4 of my geckos are fairly laid back. But my AFG is the most laid back and my absolute favorite ever. I’m obsessed with him. So I really want to keep a close eye on them.

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +2

      yeh thats awesome! Some leos really do well together and get along for sure :D

  • @cakorosssepulveda
    @cakorosssepulveda Рік тому +5

    All the 3 people I have known to try and keep males together has Been a disaster , 2 males of said people killed and 1 that almost died

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +2

      Thanks, Joako, I appreciate you sharing, I'm always looking to collect data and compile it all together for documentative purposes so I appreciate you taking the time to share!

  • @TBJretiles
    @TBJretiles Рік тому

    How do you make your humidity hide? Do you use under heat for your tubes?

  • @chrisharris658
    @chrisharris658 Рік тому

    I have to make geckos in a very large enclosure they have been together since birth and are at least 7 months old. They have 2 different hides and eat together every other day and they have not shown each other any aggression unless going for food and accidental nipping occurred. Imo adequate spacing and enough places to bide determines how well geckos do together. I’d never have more than 2 together. His are probably aggressive due to lack of space in those plastic bins

  • @starbyray7828
    @starbyray7828 Рік тому +2

    From my own personal experience of keeping Leopard Geckos for 5 years. Males WILL fight. In fact much to my cost, even if your hand smells of another male the one you let near your hand WILL bite it quite aggressively. I forgot to wash my hands before picking up one of my males having held one of his sons. He immediately latched onto my hand biting deep into my flesh and WOULD NOT LET GO. Very painful and drew blood. Fortunately it was on a thicker area on the side of my hand. Had He bitten into the webbed areas between my fingers He would have gone through. Up to that point non of my collection have ever bitten me. I have not made that mistake again. Also when its breeding season I have had my males trying to mate with my hand after holding a female. Very embarrassing lol.
    I have also had one incident where a temporary set up of one vivarium divided with mesh had a male on either side while moving their homes to a new rack. Within minutes they were hell bent on getting through the mesh to reach each other.
    Young males up to the point where they start to become sexually mature cohabit perfectly fine together in a mixed group 99.9% of the time. (ALL from the same Mum and Dad). I have had two that were aggressive from hatch day but calmed down after they reached 2yrs old.
    I do have one exceptional exception. I have a male who I believed was a female. He was often in the company of his male siblings. I did not see him make an attempt to mate or have any aggressive interaction with his male siblings. However early one morning before the lights came on I discovered him getting jiggy with a female cohabitee 😮 much to my surprise. He had to be renamed from Jessica to Jesse James. He is the most placid and friendly little soul. My very first hatchling and My smallest male too. His younger Brothers are all bigger than him. BUT He is definitely a boy who hid it VERY well. His hemipene bulges are almost invisible. ALL the girls love him lol.
    I also have a family group. This happened by accident NOT design. One of my females laid 3 eggs VERY late after the season ended unknown to me. They were hidden somewhere in the vivarium in a nook out of sight and hatched out successfully. I did not know they were there until the vivarium camera caught them climbing around the vivarium around 2 to 3am. They remained freely in with the parents despite me trying to catch them. As they grew I would see them laying side by side with their Parents. The Dad was very protective towards them. If I opened the doors to feed or clean the water bowls etc He would come forward and position himself between me and them. Always watching over them. Not aggressive toward me but watchful. The biggest baby grew up almost to the same size as Dad and I have just removed Him as Dad had decided it was time His Son needed to "leave the nest". The other 2 are still smaller but growing and still watched over. It was an interesting experience seeing how they all lived quite happily together and the Father was very Paternal. Observing their behavior was quite an informative experience. It was not a situation I would have created by design as I had been led to believe from all the information available that the babies were at risk. Possibly I was just lucky and the fact that they all came from the same family had a big influence on the situation.
    Also interestingly I have 3 males that the females prefer the company of above any other. Those males are the most friendly and most eager to be handled of my collection. All are handle able even the two who are most aggressive and skittish have started to mellow as they have aged.

  • @wheezyvettech8781
    @wheezyvettech8781 Рік тому

    How do you provide heat in the baby bins?

  • @vinzg4167
    @vinzg4167 Рік тому

    very infomative sir! Question, what if I put 3 adult females in a big enclosure. Is it better for me to provide them hides? or no hides?

  • @wechoosenature-offgrid8168
    @wechoosenature-offgrid8168 Рік тому +1

    Hi
    Love your video's 😁
    How do I see what Leo's you have for sale?
    When would the babies be available?

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +1

      Hello! www.geekygeckocreations.com has a few adults for sale right now but I'm getting ready to do a big website update for maybe 40-50 more geckos to add over the next couple weeks! :D TY for your support!

    • @wechoosenature-offgrid8168
      @wechoosenature-offgrid8168 Рік тому +1

      @@GeekyGeckoCreations ok.
      Thank you very much.

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +1

      @@wechoosenature-offgrid8168 Anytime, hope to talk more with you soon! :D

  • @REPTILES_4_LIFE.
    @REPTILES_4_LIFE. 9 місяців тому

    How do you keep the babies warm

  • @charliecurtis8852
    @charliecurtis8852 Рік тому

    What does the public (and if I’m lucky enough you frank) think about keeping 3-6 females in the same 75gal bioactive tank🤷‍♂️

  • @Nmz678
    @Nmz678 Рік тому +1

    What about a male and female around the same size in a 4x2x2? i’ve heard mostly negative things and I was wondering if anyone has ever done that

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +3

      Sophie has kept a male and female in that size enclosure well. Maybe listen to our podcast with her listed in this video in the top right corner. I believe you should be ok, however, males will always chase females around to breed even if the females don't want to breed. Unless the male is lazy, which can happen, but if he's a good breeder he'll keep bugging her to breed even if she doesn't want to and that could stress her out and cause her to lose weight or in the worst-case die over time. I'm talking extremes here, but possibilities :)

  • @ItsJustYouTube
    @ItsJustYouTube Рік тому +4

    Where do I buy some of the geckos you show in this video? You’re links have like 3-5 geckos and that’s it.

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +3

      I need to update my websites, I have black nights, tangerines, and some more stuff coming very soon, within the next week or two. Please feel free to text me 480-299-7657 and I can always let you know when I update my website :)

    • @ItsJustYouTube
      @ItsJustYouTube Рік тому +1

      @@GeekyGeckoCreations thanks

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +1

      @@ItsJustUA-cam anytime 😊

    • @ACJ.Reptiles
      @ACJ.Reptiles Рік тому +1

      Love the vid

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +1

      @@ACJ.Reptiles Thanksssssss ACJ

  • @samanthadone2406
    @samanthadone2406 10 місяців тому

    I've been wanting to buy 3 baby lepord geckos 1 male 2 females and eventually breed them when they get older I have 30 gallon tank but after watching your video I'm thinking of getting 1 more female just incase I'm new to lepord geckos so trying to do research before I get one

  • @Leafyxi
    @Leafyxi 10 місяців тому

    no heating for them ?

  • @willowsmutt8313
    @willowsmutt8313 Рік тому +1

    RedLine shipping company uses fed ex as a delivery service. Second time in a month my live animals are at risk, due to delays. I'm so upset that my gecko is going through such a traumatic situation. None should and 24 hrs should mean just that.

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations  Рік тому +1

      For sure, I totally understand. Unfortunately, since COVID Fed Ex just hasn't been quite as reliable as before. This is however a nationwide shipping issue, and fed ex still does offer the most reliable standards we can get in reptile shipping that I'm aware of. Thankfully I haven't had any delays recently but there are 1000s of packages that go out each week, and unfortunately, some people just get unlucky and are the ones that experience the delays that do happen :( But I hope for a better experience for you moving forward, maybe ill do a video on the different shipping options but fed ex is still the most reliable of the options despite the apparent issues over the last 2 years compared to the other options :(

    • @willowsmutt8313
      @willowsmutt8313 Рік тому

      Ya, now shipment is delayed until Monday the 30th. I won't and can't support anyone who affiliates with a company that lies and ships through fed ex. Unsubbing because of your affiliation to them.

  • @sxnrisita
    @sxnrisita Рік тому

    Huge question! I have two new baby leopard geckos coming soon. I have absolutely no idea what their genders are. Can i cohabit them as babies and hopefully have them get used to each-other as they grow up safely?I have asked/looked up this exact question every where and i havent found anything!! So please helpppp!! Tyy

  • @axlbulanhagui
    @axlbulanhagui 2 дні тому

    It is possible in 1:1?

    • @axlbulanhagui
      @axlbulanhagui 2 дні тому

      I have fem ovulating but its refuse to breed

  • @ericvarnadore2623
    @ericvarnadore2623 7 місяців тому

    Is a fancy geckos the same as leopard geckos

  • @NathansWildLife
    @NathansWildLife Рік тому

    How big is the baby tub

  • @AntsVentures
    @AntsVentures Рік тому

    Lmk about any available males

  • @DanteRosel
    @DanteRosel Рік тому

    Idol what pair tangarine male

  • @POLISHCRAYON507
    @POLISHCRAYON507 3 місяці тому

    Mine used to live with a female. He acts kinda weird but when I rescued him the person only wanted the female. I’m looking for a female but can’t find any that aren’t expensive

    • @XxAXELxXYT
      @XxAXELxXYT 2 місяці тому

      Try Atlantis in Roseburg oregon, or in any other place. They have ones under 100$. That's where I got mine.

  • @falcolf
    @falcolf 8 місяців тому

    I feel like there aren't any females in the building then multiple males together might theoretically be fine. No ladies to fight over? Bromance time! (This is what is seen in feral/wild horses at least. The males live in groups together until they hit maturity, then they leave the bromance (batchelor herd.) Later, when a stallion gets ousted from his band of mares as an old guy he'll often join a batchelor herd and become a role model for the young studs who've been chased out of their natal herds by their dads.

  • @shax3437
    @shax3437 11 місяців тому +1

    Idk how you think this is ok.

  • @Emrick17
    @Emrick17 Рік тому

    My female gecko as her own tank since the moment i got her but i wanna try getting a bigger tank and introduce a male but im kinda scared that they are gonna fight

  • @chequitagreen1160
    @chequitagreen1160 2 місяці тому

    I want to see a female spider. breed

  • @3Torts
    @3Torts Рік тому +6

    These rack systems are horrid.

  • @Tommygun993-cv9vt
    @Tommygun993-cv9vt 8 місяців тому

    Bro these tubs you keep them in pairs in just cruel no room totally unnatural

  • @loanyt4368
    @loanyt4368 Рік тому +4

    disgusting keeping those guys in tiny little containers smh

    • @XxAXELxXYT
      @XxAXELxXYT 2 місяці тому

      @lanyt4368
      No, its not. That container is an inkybaiter. Baby's cannot handle heat lamps very quick.
      He also probably takes them out for fresh air every day. He's a professional, are you?
      *No*