3 Broken Stars that Developers Overlooked in Super Mario 64
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- These odd stars were placed in Super Mario 64 alongside an intended challenge, but in the end, they are broken and most players skipped them entirely. Why is this the case? These aren't even Mario 64 speedrun skips.
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So there's a few more besides just the three I mentioned in this video. Any others immediately come to mind?
In Jolly Roger Bay, whenever I'm doing the first star, as soon as I open the last chest, I immediately turn around and swim up to the platform that the block containing the star is floating above, while the water is still draining.
The haunted books in Big Boo's Haunt. You could just longjump to the star, but they fixed it in 64DS.
NOOOOOOOOOOO
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@@ShadowSora8491 CHEATER
LLL log rolling. My first time playing through the game, I was messing around with the wing cap, and grabbed the star that way
Oh yeah. And if not, there's also the Koopa Shell.
I just did that with lava boosts
YES. In fact I didn't even notice the log for the longest time so i was confused about the name.
Useing your srondings
I used wing cap too
"You can long jump past the arrow lift puzzle" I felt a 20 year old pain seize my heart. X(
You actually used those?
Same
Ye, its much harder to do the puzzle normally than to just long jump it. Even jumping to the last platform and then doubling is easier.
My 5 year old brother long jumped the first time really dude
@@silverreaps6803 I used them on my third playthrough, thinking, why are these even here? This is awful! Never used them again.
Blast to the lonely mushroom in TTM comes to mind. You're supposed to find a pink bob-omb who is very well hidden, then tip toe your way a narrow passage to get to the cannon and then have one shot at the star or else you're dead. Most people just long jump from the top of the mountain to the mushroom.
In my case i ended up reaching the mushroom by stomping on a shy guy.
Just use Luigi's backflip lol
@@davinchristino Thats only in the DS version
I agree with this star. I always long jump off that spinning log. First play through never found a cannon, so I just thought it was oddly named, and did that every subsequent playthrough. Even on Switch I did it that way. I found the bom-omb like a handful of times in my 50 some play-throughs?
Not sure why I never thought to do that move for the Shocking Arrow Lifts star. Mind blown. Always used the arrows like a simp.
@@davinchristino yeah I actually used Luigi's backflip to get it when I was new to 64 lol. I wish the remake was on Switch too.
When I first played the game, in Cool Cool Mountain, I never completed Wall Kick Will Work by shooting out of the cannon. I always bounced on the spindrifts
I just jumped down to the area from above. Yah *YEET*
Edit: I didn't even realize that the cannon was the intentional path until I stumbled upon the intended path in 3D All Stars when going for 100 coins
I always use Luigi instead
@@Lady_of_the_Land I mean that works, but I thought we were talking about SM64 not SM64DS
@@4Fluffin he is talking about sm64, you just missed the joke dude ......
Oh shit me too
...I honestly never thought to jump down to get the slide down the mountain star, lol 3:10. I've probably got this star the legit way 50 times
I never realized there was a slide to begin with.
The DS version blocks where the star is, so you have to go down the slide.
@@onijester56 I always wondered where the star I was missing was. I knew the slide existed, but not which level or where in one it was
@@MrGOOMBAGUY you could also use Vanish Luigi to go through the wall too
@@MrGOOMBAGUY this is probably why I never thought of it. I played the DS version first where there's a gate/fence in front of the star, so while playing 64 on Switch, I went down the slide by habit
"Shoot into the Wild Blue" should be renamed "Just do a big wall jump."
I know some stars that Mario can't collect, those when he bangs his head :)
Needed trick ":)"
Lol
_B O N K_
no, no, he got a point
Actual good comment.
Shoot into the Wild Blue. Anyone who tries the intended method and fails (which is most of them) will realize that the height of the platform with the Star is the same height of a Wall Jump or Triple Jump.
Big Boo's Haunt, you can triple jump and wall jump onto the second floor, then make it to the roof.
Yeah, but that is probably not going to be done by a newbie.
Lol ive done it a few times but i watched twitch streamers do ot and wasnt particularly used to the control style yet. Would that be considered novice?
@@Raceboy66.2 I'd consider it to be new
@OctagonalSM64 no, I mean they probably wouldn't think of doing it. I'm not at all saying they aren't capable of it, although the mario 64 wall kicks are hard enough on their own.
@OctagonalSM64 ok. I always found then hard, but my n64 copy is stuffed and runs in slomo for some reason, so that's probably it.
"Even amateurs skipped the arrows."
*Me who had no idea and would patiently wait on the arrow blocks* "...."
I kept hitting the amp with my jumps.
how did you not know you could long jump over it
@@matthew7519 How did you know you could?
@@geekygamergirl7259 I immediately did it as soon as I climbed up lol its mad simple I said I can make this so I did
Guess that means you aren't an amateur then :)
Interesting fact about the mountainside star, they blocked the hidden/secret path in DS remake/port forcing you to take the intended path. The only other star I can think of that had a slightly similar change is the caged star in Whomps Fortress where the design of the cage was changed slightly.
I'll probably update this comment or make a second one with a list of star changes between the original and the remake. Which will show that Nintendo didn't completely know which stars could be cheesed and which ones required you to obtain them legitimately.
I'll let all of you know once I do my research.
Well they did, except there's also a ? block in the level with a Power Flower, and Luigi's ability lets him go right through their wall and get the star early anyway. This plus Luigi's insane jumping abilities basically trivialised the entire level in the DS version anyway.
Which means the patch they tried to give can still be ignored if you know what you're doing.
But still, the changes to the DS version not only removed some stars but changed them to something completely different.
Although I didn't think to use Luigi in Tall Tall Mountain for that particular star, I didn't remember where the exclamation box was in that level so I forgot about Luigi's invisibility power. Kinda just did most of Tall Tall Mountain legitimately rather than use an exploit.
And I think my ego is trying to talk, so I'm just going to shut up now.
The Secret of the Haunted Books star in BBH (I think that’s what it’s called) is inaccessible in the DS remake unless you hit the books as intended. They put a semi-invisible wall around that mini balcony in the piano room. I don’t think Luigi can get through it with the invisibility power flower either.
Annoyingly, though, that means that you can't exit the slide after collecting the coins, to the 100 coin star either requires you to manage to collect it on the slide or to use the wing cap to collect a bunch of floating coins.
@Mysterious NuclearBirbs: you wrong it is still cheesable, how first you need Luigi, and the ? mark switch activated, then you used the owl in the tree to go to the very top, using the ? mark box to turn to vanish Luigi, and fall down to the top where the grid is, and after a luigi back flip you have the time to go through the grid as vanish Luigi.
When I was a kid, I never understood Stand Tall on the 4 Pillars. To get to Eyerock's place, I entered the pyramid the normal way and did either a well timed kick in midair or a ledge grab, I don't remember which, from the top of the structure in the pyramid to get into the hole. Also, I thought Eyerock's star was a Castle Secret Star instead of a Shifting Sand Land star.
I didn't play SM64 as a kid but I've been playing it mostly blind in 3D All Stars recently and getting to the top of the pyramid early has been the bane of my existence because of how precisely I thought you had to scale the sides...
I could never figure that star out. From the original to the DS remake to the Switch remake it was always too esoteric for me to figure out what to do. After around 20 years I finally broke down and decided to look it up online and managed to get the star. I legitimately had no idea about Eyerock until recently.
Shining atop the pyramid. I recently learned the super thin walkway on the side of the pyramid is the intended way to get the star
Wait, really? I thought that was just decoration! It never once occurred to me to do that! How does that even work?
@@bhull242 you walk across a walkway that gets thinner and thinner until you get to the top of the pyramid and get the Star
That doesn’t even feel like an intended path at all.
@@iantaakalla8180
IKR? It’s like, it’s not that hard to jump from near the entrance to the pyramid (where you would logically start to go for the Star) to the ledge with the Star without any power-ups, items, or special maneuvers, and there is nothing that tells the player to do so, even subconsciously. In fact, not even the official Nintendo Power Player’s Guide for SM64 ever mentions walking around the pyramid using those ledges as even an option, let alone as the intended method! It just says to jump up the ledges to reach the Star or use a Shell or Wing Cap to get up there.
Oh yeah, I forgot; there’s also a Shell and a Wing Cap _right there by the entrance to the pyramid_ that can both be used to scale the front of the pyramid to reach the Star easily without using any ledges at all! If anything, the game seems to be saying to use _those,_ not the ledges, to reach the Star!
And unlike some broken Stars (like Shocking Arrow-Lifts, Secret of the Haunted Bookshelf, Into the Wild Blue, or Get A Hand), where at least the _name_ indicates the intended way to get them, nothing about “Shining Atop the Pyramid” suggests using those walkways. Why would anyone even realize that you were supposed to do that?
I've never heard anyone say that was intended
I really loved that slide's star, as it really gives me surprise when I went to the dead end. And the design is unique too, give me a weirdcore vibes
3:06 in the DS version they added a cage around it making it impossible to jump kick from
EDIT: Still is cheesable with vanish luigi
@Ab A: you wrong it is still cheesable, how first you need Luigi, and the ? mark switch activated, then you used the owl in the tree to go to the very top, using the ? mark box to turn to vanish Luigi, and fall down to the top where the grid is, and after a luigi back flip you have the time to go through the grid as vanish Luigi.
@@SuperNickid Yeah but that would require decent cleverness.
Collect the Caps - nobody ever used the metal cap
Blast to the Lonely Mushroom - nobody uses the cannon
Fall onto the Caged Island - I always used the cannon, I never knew about the owl when I was younger.
Shining Atop the Pyramid - I always used the wing cap or shell instead of the thin path
Secret slide timed star - I always jumped down since I was never able to do it fast enough normally.
I can't help but imagine if it was odyssey with Cappy these stars would be eve more easy to reach, makes me think how amazing the level designing or Mario has evolved into what Odyssey is
There is a Mario Odyssey 64 Rom Hack out there.
@@MrGOOMBAGUY I actually completed my second playthrough of SM64 like that
Considering Mario's control is so good in odyssey that 64's platforming would be far, FAR too basic.
@@GordieKat still more complex than odyssey's basic and simple level design. Despite looking beautiful, it felt bland at times and extremely bored me.
Because you have the hat for that extra jump/control. Just like flood.
In M64, you just have to get good lol
The star on top of the snowman's head in that one snow level. They want you to walk behind the penguin to avoid the wind the snowman blows at you, but you can jump onto his head from that part with little effort.
I always shot the Cannon up there
@@Kosmicd12 I feel like that was what the cannon was for because what else would've been its use?
@@Luhvene yeah you're right! Also probably the main reason there's a tree on top of the snowman
Wait you weren’t supposed to use the cannon? Haha
I'm pretty sure they want you to jump on his head, basically everyone just follows the penguin
I'm actually playing through Mario 64 again for the first time in years, now that the 3D All Stars is on Switch. In Snowman's Land, I remember as a kid how frustrating Snowman's Big Head was. This time around, I ended up going into the igloo first, and unlocking the cannon, and was able to shoot to the top of the head, skipping the section where you have to walk next to the penguin entirely. It's entirely possible out of curiosity a new player might see the igloo and go exploring to get into it.
I did the same! I kept getting frustrated, but I loved the level so I just kept exploring. It's actually what I do everytime now lol
Or....you can backflip on top of the penguins head and you can just stand there while it walks you over the ice bridge. You won't be blown of using this method!
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Screw The Rules, I Have Money!
I was looking for this once he said third rate duelist. I am satisfied
Ultimate insult!
Dude you forgot about blast to the lonely mushroom who actually takes the cannon to it.
Sometimes, I do, but sometimes I use the Shy Guy to get to it.
...me
Seriously. The cannon feels like the scariest option. When I tried as a kid I was more likely to go a little too high and slide over the side.
Its even more broken in the DS remake
Me 😅
I think it was called "Collecting the caps" (I don't know i never played the original Mario 64). You can just collect the invisibility cap without the metal cap and you finish the level the same.
After I saw a friend do it that way, just a few years ago, that's how I do it, from now on.
This one is so easy to break that the DS remake literally made that the intended solution, since you couldn't stack powerups in that game.
Yeah, the invisible and metal powerups were character exclusive in SM64DS.
@@GamingReinvented Wasn't the hint changed to 'Luigi in the Cage'? Or is that 64 DS's version of TTC's 'Roll into the Cage'?
@@devonm042690 "Collect the Caps" was changed to "Inside the Cage" (Dire Dire Docks last star)
"Roll into the Cage" was changed to "Luigi in the Cage (TTC first star)
1:47 Nice to know I wasn't the only one who cheesed that one so hard
Does any sane person use the arrow lifts in a casual playthrough
@@trentoninnewjersey i hope not
@@trentoninnewjersey Unless it's a very specific challenge run.
@@trentoninnewjersey I always did, never thought to long jump :/
Meanwhile in DS half the stars can be obtained by abusing Luigi's backflip
The red coins in the lava level. You're supposed to run around on a slide puzzle of Bowser, being careful not to fall off a moving slide. But if you just ride the green shell across the lava, you have nothing to worry about.
yup exactly what i did as soon as i jumped into that level
I don't think you can do that your first time playing the level, since the shell doesn't show up until the last two stars (at least in the N64 version).
@@chrideedee Super mario 64 DS also shiny shell only appear when you start the star into the volcano, they might be a glitch in the DS version if you do one of the later star early that is past where the shiny shell is unlocked then if you select that star, you will have the shiny shell unlocked to cheese the red coins, and it may only work on the first version of the cartridge.
Hazy maze cave Amazing emergency exit just by jumping in the maze without a power up
Or walljump to the 1-up box platform from the area below and then grab the scaffolding or whatever it's called and grab the star
The star behind the bookshelf in Big Boo's Haunt comes to mind.
I remember being a rushing kid never read the hints so I jumped to the bookshelf star in big boo haunt . Its just their teasing out in the open
If the stars are broken... Mario shouldn't collect them. They'll wreck the castle... THERE WAS NO HAPPY ENDING.
I mean you can get a happy ending without collecting every star, you just need 70
I think that another broken star would be "Li'l lost penguin". The intended path is for you to grab the penguin and go down the slide, but what I see a lot of player (Including myself) doing is grabbing the penguin and jumping off the right side of the mountain top. If you jump correctly you'll land right around where the mama penguin is skipping the slide entirely.
I think the only reason that wasn't included is because it's a speedrun trick, like cannonless on Whomp's Fortress
@@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic But you can actually get this one accidentally because of the way the bottom is lined up with the starting area
@@ccheyenne True, very true. I would assume most beginners would be afraid of going that way and dying, though. At least, that was my thinking when I was younger
I don't think it's a speed run trick, because you are supposed to take this route for one of the red coins.
@@19Szabolcs91 Valid reasoning there, but I think most would do the Penguin star before the red coins
I cannoned into Fall onto the Caged Island playing Super Mario 64 in a Sears display back when the game was new.
That's just impressive.
Your comment should be pinned or hearted.
That might be harder than intended method.
@@Solibrae It is, but it's also more obvious than the intended method so a lot of people end up doing it the first time which in my opinion makes the star broken.
Hey, it's still owlless
I was a early 2000's kid, so I grew up playing SM64 DS with my Dad. I remember I could never beat tricky triangles, so I took the magic carpet all the way up to the airship and grabbed the balloon flower. I proceeded to float all the way down to the star and get it that way. Good memories.
The only one I can think off from the top of my head is “Shoot into to the Wild Blue.” You can use the cannon or you can just do a side somersault into a wall up to the platform the star is at.
@OctagonalSM64 Wall jump, you know what I meant.
I don't think I had even known about a lot of these skips when I first played the game. I discovered them over the internet, but these are all pretty good points to make. I hardly ever do the shocking arrow lifts one in it's intended method.
So I was this old when I found out there was a slide ride in Tall Tall Mountain. I always got that star with jump kicks when I was younger... this star is truly broken
Another example is Blast to the Lonely Mushroom.
Honestly, I doubt that Nintendo didn't intend for many of the Stars to be collectable in more than one way.
Oh, almost certainly. But for all of these stars, there's a very clear primary method. One that a lot of people just don't take.
They actually caged off the Mysterious Mountainside star in 64 DS, so they eventually caught on to that one. There were a lot they didn't fix though.
The wing cap one in Bombomb Battlefield is able to be done with the cannons. Used to do that as a kid, couldn't figure out how to unlock the blocks back then. At least, the DS version is doable.
When I was a kid I tried to complete all the stars in each level before moving on to the next, so I would always get Mario wings to the sky in bob-omb battlefield by just shooting the cannon over and over again until I went through all the rings. Since it's the first level I didn't have wing cap yet and it never occured to me that the star would be easier if I came back later with wing cap.
I've played and completed the game in the late 90s and honestly I obtained every star the intended way since I was using the official Nintendo guide book. Even this mentioned the warp and the long jump method for WDW. I honestly didn't even know that the arrowlifts move when stepped on them.
3:14 OK that's a Yu-Gi-Oh reference if i ever saw one.
* 2:14
@@_delta_music_ thanks
Log rolling in lethal lava land. As a kid I always rode a shell or used the wing cap for that section instead of running atop the logs.
You don't unlock the shell until after you collect that star.
Both "swimming through the jetstream" stars. Perfect swimming is a technique you develop in your first few minutes of swimming, and many players would see a star and try to just swim to it, and see that they make some progress against the current.
A lot of stars in Tick Tock Clock are broken in that you can just make simple jumps to get to them where you're expected to rely on moving platforms.
Jumping through whomp in whoops fortress was the first one that popped into my head.
@OctagonalSM64 that's the point of the video.
Shoot into the Wild Blue is fairly broken
Yeah you can just wall jump
even Nintendo themselves realized this when remaking Whomp's Fortress in SMG2.. The intended way up there is to wallkick
@DamnMerasmus The wall jump is the most well known way but yeah it is easy to get with every method
@@light_player07 except actually the intended method, aiming is really hard
My list of broken stars
1. Blast to the lonely mushroom
2. Shocking arrow lifts
3. Shining atop the pyramid
4. Shoot into the wild blue
5. Inside the ancient pyramid
6. Secret of the haunted books
7. A-maze-ing emergency exit
8. Collect the caps...
9. Red-hot log rolling
10. Elevator tour in the volcano
11. Snowman’s big head
12. Mysterious mountainside
13. Top top of the huge island
14. Get a hand
15. Cruiser crossing the rainbow
16. Somewhere over the rainbow
Everyone of these stars can be exploited in a fast or easier way to accomplish them
Instead of using the bird in whomps fortress I just shot myself up there with the cannon
Cool cool mountain, the wall kick star, I just jumped on top of the spinning flower enemy where the snowman body appears and slowly flew right into the star.
I honestly thought he was going to say Pit and the Pendulum. When I first played the game, I saw those pendulums going back and forth over small platforms and I was like "L O N G J U M P"
In Wet-Dry World, I didn't know much about the stage's layout, and I found myself wandering around for a while trying to find a Star. Couldn't find the Arrow Lifts the hint told me about. Eventually, I got on top of that pillar and found the Star, and was surprised to find it was Shocking Arrow Lifts! I saw the Arrow Lifts later, and was like, "oh, that's how you're supposed to get it!"
In Cool Cool Mountain, I had seen some gameplay of this stage before, and I seriously thought you get the Wall Kicks Will Work Star by falling off the mountain and doubling back. It wasn't until I searched for Red Coins that I found the normal way to get there.
In Jolly Roger Bay, I got Through the Jet Stream by the speedrunner method. I had seen gameplay of the Star being collected this way, and I didn't think it would be as frustrating to get as it was. I also got the one in Dire Dire Docks the same way. It wasn't until later I found out that you're supposed to use the Metal Cap!
I'm surprised he didn't talk about Wild Blue. I don't even know how you're supposed to do it, I just use a side flip.
*_Shoot_* into the Wild Blue
The title route is using the cannon.
The cannon is so finicky, though, sideflip / sideflip wallkick is a more consistent and safer strategy, I feel, and not a *_terribly_* difficult one to pull off, at that (still a bit tricky, though).
@@Cheerybelle The cannon is fine in my opinion
I remember being a kid, playing tall tall mountain, sliding down the secret slide, and getting got by the dead end :(
my preferred way of doing owlless is just long jumping off the whomp's fortress tower on star 2
When I played SM64DS, I got the mysterious mountainside by luigi backflipping with power flower from the top.
One star that nobody gets the intended way has to be the bowser's sub star in dire dire docks. You're supposed to use a button that makes blocks appear to reach the sub, but everyone just climbs the sub without it since it's more convenient.
I would consider the collect the caps star in dire dire docks to fall into this category. The devs expect you to use the metal and vanish caps to go through the cage, but the player will most likely grab just the vanish cap because metal mario is so slow that the star is significantly harder. (And they might have unlocked the vanish cap but not the metal cap)
@Waterwraith: they do not. Because it is imposible to do it the way you mention in Super mario 64DS.
The absolute worst star is the one in the Pyramid where you have to hit the 5 invisible checkpoints on top. Thr camera just doesnt work and you will fall down thousands of times.
I still find Tick Tock Clock's 100 Coin Star the worst.
There’s another one on Tall Tall Mountain, the one you’re supposed to use the cannon to get. You can just long jump from the rolling log pretty easily
3:00 A friend of mine, told me that back in the day he never found the secret slide to reach that star. So he atracted the flying shy guy close to that zone, and jumped on him to make the spinning thing and get inside the "cave" with the star and collect it
In the DS version they put a metal grate over the Mysterious Mountainside's ending, but then they made Luigi both able to go invisible and glide so it's still doable
This is a really cool concept. I've probably used the arrow lifts one time out of several playthroughs between the DS remake and Switch port.
Thinking about the pyramid opening early gives me a funny idea that Eyerok is still getting ready for the fight lol. Imagine you just see two hands putting on lotion or something, then Mario shows up. "Wait! I'm not ready!!"
Funny thing, when I first played Mario 64, I needed a guide book and several of them instructed you to cheese the level.
-Wall Kicks Will Work had you jump on a Spindrift and twirl down instead of riding the gondola to the Bob-omb, unlocking the cannon, and firing your way over.
-Red Hot Log Rolling had you use the Wing Cap to get to it instead of riding the metal platform.
-Shining Atop the Pyramid had you use the Wing Cap to get the Star instead of climbing around the narrow platforms.
-Collect the Caps had you just collect the Vanish Cap and swim down to the cage.
-For Into the Igloo they had you drop down to the igloo from the giant penguin when it seems like they wanted you to use the green shell to slide up the slope.
-Shocking Arrow Lifts they had you warp to the cannon.
Canon star in TTM. I've almost never done it the intended way, you can just long jump to it from the rolling log or any other slightly high up spot. Or use the bouncy box.
A video of this same topic covering mario 64 ds might be interesting, considering all the new stars and characters added. Luigi’s backflip immediately comes to mind
Shining Atop the Pyramid: I would always just ride the shell straight up. The intended mechanic was to walk along the outer edges all the way up, and I don't think I've ever done this.
Shoot Into the Wild Blue: Speaks for itself.
TTC Get A Hand: I would always go to Roll Into the Cage and just walk off the edge to get this star. Even as a kid when first playing the game
I know personally through my own video series on it that in Thwomp's Fortess I just use a kick to jump from the upper ledge to get the "Shoot into the Wild Blue" Star. I also just jump to "Secret of the Haunted Books" in Boo's Mansion because by then I can see the star and know that it's easy to reach. Another would be in Lethal Lava Land where I just use the wing cap and a triple jump to fly over the fence and get "Red-Hot Log Rolling" -> Never, not even when I was a kid, did I get that star the intended way. Those are all the ones I think of that you didn't mention. Hopefully y'all agree
I never thought about long-jumping past the arrow blocks. Learning that it was so easy all along is kinda painful.
However, I also never even knew there was a slide on Tal Tal Mountain. I thought you were just supposed to make that really awkward jump down off the ledge.
I definitely did cheese the pyramid. XD
I played this game A LOT but never used these arrow blocks. Even when I was a child.
Subbed! Thank you for these awesome videos!! It's interesting to see the odd challenges you do that wouldn't normally be possible in SM64
TTM Blast to the Lonely Mushroom is a star that even growing up I never did the intended way. I just jumped onto it from a high part of the map.
At least you have to do the slide in Tall, Tall Mountain for the 100 coin challenge.
"Fall onto the Caged Island" in Whomp's Fortress is a star that I found a pretty clever trick to complete (and it's not the traditional owl-less strategy). If you open the cannon and aim just above the red coin on the rotating platform, you might land in the cage.
It’s called Shocking Arrow Lifts because it’s shocking that anyone would use them
I also think the one from Whomp’s fortress where you are supposed to shoot into the Star or the nearby pole with the cannon but can just jump down near the Star should be here
I always used "Inside the Ancient Pyramid" to beat "Stand Tall on the Four Pillars", by just jumping down to where the platform would take you when inside the pyramid.
I never actually knew how to 'officially' beat "Stand Tall on the Four Pillars" until last year when I looked it up (after completing it my typical 'cheat' way), IIRC there's no feedback (e.g. 1,2,3,4, audio, etc.) so I always thought I was doing it wrong when I'd go on one of the pillars.
Shining Atop the Pyramid is another one where you're supposed to walk up round the sides of the pyramid, but it's so much easier to use the shell or the wing cap.
Some other broken stars:
-Shoot into the wild blue
-Red Hot Log Rolling
-*maybe* Through the Jet Stream (JRB not DDD)
-Shining atop the piramid
-Metal head mario can move
-In the deep freeze
-Get a hand
-*maybe* WF star 5 (using cannon. I heard some people did that their first playthrough)
You edit your videos PERFECTLY! I love when you do that thing where you show off different angles of the map!!! Amazing video as per usual
My first time around, I collected the Stars as intended to the best of my young abilities, and then as time moved on, I tried new things to play the game in a different way.
Just a few weeks ago, I was able to get the Fall into the Caged Island Star by using the cannon :D
I can play all of the game in my sleep, but I've never done the cannon shot before and I think it's cool that I made it :P
I think in this video, the only one that applies is actually the arrow lifts. For the others, it's much more organic to find the stars the intended way. The first is an open level design and your target is clear, plus you can raise the water level as a central mechanic of the level. You're very likely to get this star without even experiencing the lifts on the first try.
The latter two here assume the player already knows where that star is, and that's the only reason why the player would cheese to get there early. I know when I was a kid I wasn't abusing the air-kick to move Mario backward mid-air, especially when attempting it could've risked falling to my death.
The Pyramid side-entrance is very obvious, visible and accessible compared to popping the top, which is the result of an unintuitive sequence. The first thing you're gonna do when you get inside (from the side entrance) is explore it and climb to the star. You're not hunting for secrets to get in the pyramid early to cheese a star you don't know would be more easily accessible via an unknown puzzle.
Here's a suggestion - Snowman's Land Star 1 - Snowman's Big Head.
You're supposed to scale the giant snowman and use the penguin to avoid the wind to reach the star, but you can bypass all of this by using the cannon to shoot to the top of the snowman (by aiming for the tree on the top). Now, only problem is that with this being Star 1, the Cannon won't be open yet. But the interesting thing about the Cannon in Snowman's Land is that it is right next to the spot where Mario starts in the course. It would not be unreasonable for a new player realizing that they need to reach the top of the giant snowman top see the Cannon at the beginning of the course and assume that this is the way to get up there. The only difficulty is that you'd need to find the Bob-omb-buddy, who is tucked away inside the Igloo, which a New player might not even locate until Star 6 when you need to enter the Igloo. But if a player were to stumble upon it whilst perhaps looking for Bob-omb-buddy, they may enter for a look and find him. An experienced player who already knows B-O-B's location would have no difficulty in entering the Igloo, talking to him and then going back outside to use the Cannon.
I do find it odd that Snowman's land has this Cannon, but hides the B-O-B from you until Star 6, for which you don't even need him. Makes me wonder why a cannon was even included in this level since it is never actually needed, but it is a handy tool for achieving star 1 instead of using the path you are supposed to take.
I'm not really bothered about whether it is actually any easier or quicker to use the alternative path, but I just find it so interesting that this shortcut to Star 1 exists, when there is seemingly no other use for the Cannon.
Tick Tock Clock - the star "Get A Hand" normally requires the clock to be moving inside and you have to ride a hand. But you can enter the clock with its parts frozen and just drop it from above.
Lava log rolling easily lmao. I just wing capped over to it.
I remember struggling on the arrow lifts as a little kid before discovering I could just jump over them with no consequence.
I don't even think I ever found the slide on Tall Tall Mountain when I first played SM64.
Shining atop the pyramid is also a star that can easily obtained by not doing what is intended. Judging by the fact the out side of the pyramid is climbable, they must've wanted you to go all the way around the level, through the tox box quicksand pit, and climb up the pyramid, but you can easily just fly to the star or ride a shell up the side of the pyramid. This star always made me wonder why they made it so easy to obtain.
I like that there are multiple ways to get some stars. Grants the players more freedom and get that rush when they find an "unintended" shortcut.
The first console I ever owned was a DS, so the DS version of this game holds a very special place in my heart.
With that in mind, I never did stand atop the 4 pillars correctly. I would go in the pyramid the normal way and then use Mario’s ballon power up to fly into the boss area. When I learned about the intended way I was amazed. Seeing the pyramid explode long after I had finished the game was mind blowing. I thought the pillars that were being referred to was the hands somehow.
I also never did the cool cool mountain wall jumping star correctly either. I would use luigi’s backflip spin to get up there instead. It was just so much easier and I was usually playing as Luigi anyways.
I remember specifically not being able to long jump past the wet dry world arrow lifts and always found it annoying that it forced me to wait for them to move. Furthermore when you get zapped, you’d be locked in place while the arrow lift kept moving below you, often causing you to fall off.
You just showed one yourself without noticing it. The star at the top of the pyramid Is meant to be grabbed by walking on this path along the pyramid but most players jump there, or fly like you did.
Blast to the lonely mushroom in Tall Tall Mountain. If you head to the section with the Ukiki and the log there's a fly guy you can bounce off to float straight to the star. A million times easier.
I would argue that the "Wallkicks Will Work" in "Cool Cool Mountain" is a broken star! The intended way to get to that star area is to use the cannon, but even as a 7-year-old playing the game for the very first time, I was able to figure out how to simply jump down the mountain to that area or use a "Spin-Drift" to glide my way down there. Meaning, the intended method of opening the cannon for that star is probably rarely ever used even for beginners.
Granted, in my case in-particular, as a child playing Mario 64 for the first time, I didn't even know how to properly perform a "Wallkick" nor even what that was. I was unaware of that mechanic, so I ended up acquiring all 120 stars without ever wall-jumping. This includes areas like "Coins Amass In A Maze" within the "Rainbow Ride" stage. For that star, I would either use the cannon or carpets to get to the very top of the structure and simply fall down repeatedly from there to grab all the red coins rather than performing a walljump. I can attest that it is possible to acquire all 120 stars in the game without ever wall-kicking since I did so the very first time I played the game. Incidentally, the "Wallkicks Will Work" star, contrary to its name, doesn't require wallkicks nor the cannon to acquire even for noobs.
The baby penguin star in CCM. You’re supposed to walk/slide down the mountain the long way, but instead you can take a pretty easy slide down the side of the mountain straight to the bottom.
CCM also has Wall Kicks Will Work, which can be obtained without any Wall Kicks whatsoever and without using the cannon to blast you over to that area just by falling onto the icy platform from above. Even if you miss the platform with the Star, you’ll have still skipped the cannon.
There’s also one of the volcano Stars in LLL, which you can get by just long jumping from where the other Star is, making the elevators completely and utterly useless.
Speaking of LLL, the log-rolling Star can be obtained sans log just by using the Wing Cap or a Shell.
Then there’s Get a Hand in TTC, which you can reach even while the clock is stopped by just falling from above rather than using the hand.
In WF, there’s Shoot into the Wild Blue. You’re supposed to use the cannon to launch yourself to the pole and slide down to the Star, but a simple Wall Kick will get you there easily.
Finally, in BBH, you’re supposed to go through the library past some books literally flying off the shelves to hit Mario and then solve a puzzle by kicking three books on a shelf in a specific order… but once again, you can just Wall Kick to reach the platform with the Star.
Didn't expect shoot into the wild blue to not be mentioned. When I first played the game I found aiming cannons really hard and what I did was jumped and kicked from the top to the platform that's slightly lower, where the top of the pole is. Obviously took a few tries, but that's how I got that star for the first time ever.
0:40 I was actually watching a streamer play SM64 for the first time the other day and he did this completely by accident, it was hilarious. He had no idea what had just happened lol
for years, i thought the arrow lift was the flippy robot...
Video: broken stars in Mario 64
Me: even the "broken" stars in M64 are the most fun/genius gameplays in gaming history
Some other examples I can think of...
- Red hot log rolling in LLL: I don't think I ever atually used the log, itself, since the Wing Cap makes it trivial. Or even without the Wing cap, you can just long jump toward the star, fall in the lava and bounce out.
- Collect the caps in DDD: the text clearly implies that you're meant to use the vanish and metal cap at the same time which is cool and all, but you don't even need the metal cap at all. Just grab the vanish cap and swim into the cage. Most new players, however, WILL do it the intended way for the simple coolness factor or combining the vanish and metal caps.
- Into the igloo: Some peple told me that you're supposed to get to the ignoo entrance with the Koopa shell. I never ever did that, always just went halfway up the snowman and jumped there.
- Not a star, but the first carpet in Rainbow ride is completely and easily skippable by long jumping to the pole that leads up the exact same place.