This Once Beloved Tool Brand is coming back with a ton of new tools, but is it a RYOBI Killer?
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- A well known tool brand that is still loved and missed by many was slowly but surely disappearing. Now they have been rejuvenated and set to release a ton of new power tools. The question is, will they have what it takes to be a Ryobi killer?
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I’ve been using Porter Cable tools since I was a kid helping my dad build stuff. That been 40 years. I’ve never had a problem with any of their tools.
Porter is owned by Stanley/B&D
Who also owns craftsman.
This drill is literally made 3 times over but branded as Stanley, Porter Cable and Craftsman.
Straight facts ain't that the truth Stanley's version of sold overseas and South America we get the Craftsman here and the regular Porter Cable it would be nice if they did they made it all black and the writing and red
Actual what you are looking at is a re-branded Black & Decker that uses the exact same battery and charger! I know, I have a B&D Matrix system and the batteries from what I have been told are interchangeable!
@@FunAtDisney you just have to shave off a tab to use them.
I bought their 9 piece set 4 years ago, only thing different battery indicator. Saw craftsman line, was recolored porter cable. It's ok for like work.
@@kurt1522 I am wondering if the batteries will work if I flip the + and - pins in the craftsman tool? I wonder if I just need to mod the tool to take a PC or B& D battery
Iv owned nothing but Porter Cable cordless tools for a few years now. I am very happy with this company and their performance.
I feel like that would compete with Harbor Freight, not Ryobi.
Yes, more like a Bauer competitor.
Craftsman is more comparable to Ryobi.
And the price is just a bit too rich for what you are getting, a Craftsman CMCD710 is $99 with a 1.5 Ah battery and faster charger. You can get another battery for $40 and end up with a more capable tool and a much better lineup.
Or just like I did: get a combo with drill /driver, an impact and 2 batteries for $150
The craftsman and the porter cable are the exact same tools. Look across the whole lineups, from brad nailer to this set. They’re just different colors and they’re more comparable to hart, in Walmart. Which is is owned by tti, just like ryobi, so they maybe the same thing as well.
Had Porter cable stuff. It was underpowered junk. I sold it and bought Hercules. Way more tool for around the same price
When I first started into Contracting I had a full lineup of Porter-Cable tools drill impact circular saw Sawzall multi tool and a fast-charging battery bag that Porter-Cable makes my experience was pretty good with them but eventually they were not strong enough and I sold all them and switch to Milwaukee I love the Milwaukee Tools my wallet hates them the Porter-Cable always holds a place in my heart because that was where I got my start using them
Take it easy on that wood bro 😎 remember that the wood is more expensive than that tool your holding.
Lmao, so true brother 😂
Right
@@jimmypham2487 I know that bro it was a joke due to the high price of wood 🪵.
@@kctyphoon just give it a few more weeks it’s on its way !!!!
Thanks for the overview!
My thoughts on that drill are that I paid $99 for the Ryobi HP brushless compact drill with two 1.5 AH batteries a few months ago. And Ryobi has the charge meter on the battery to boot!
Perfect gift for grandpa. Replaces his wired black and decker with a name he trusts. 👍
My first drywall screwdriver was a corded porter cable! Just doesn’t sound right, “CORDLESS PORTER CABLE?”
Shameful 😢
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They have a bunch already. I their kit years ago with the jig grinder skill flashlight impact and regular drill. Not bad but it’s definitely apprentice style. Vince got me on Milwaukee a year ago and I haven’t looked back since.
My shop is full of Ryobi not Ryobi tools and I love the color because they are easy to find even under sawdust. Real nice like.
I'm a construction worker. And I've always used DeWalts and Porter Cables. Never had an issue with porter cable..
I have been a porter cable fan for years. My 1st set of cordless I bought in early 2000 and still works great it is retired now for home use .my 2nd set I bought in 2019 I did upgrade the batteries and use them as a maintenance tech in apartment complex also on weekends in my handyman business building decks and other home repairs. PORTER CABLE power tools is all I use great products.
I was honestly hoping you'd say Porter Cable.
I grew up using all sorts of power tools from Porter Cable, Milwaukee (I'm from Milwaukee) Dewalt & Hitachi and I've literally never had a single issue with any of them.
Cool ass packaging!
Thanks for the awesome comment Ray. As mentioned, I think a lot of people are rooting for Porter Cable. Fingers crossed 🤞
My very first impact driver was a Porter Cable. Still have it to this day.. although it doesn’t see much use. Can’t say I’m a buyer for their new line up personally, but I do want to see them do well.
I bought that brushless drill with the brushless impact driver with two batteries and charger in a kit like new from a pawn shop for like $99 years ago. I have several Porter Cable tools I bought at really low prices. Lately Lowes/SBD it's doing the same with Craftsman. They sold the 3 speed impact bare tool for under $50 but threw in a 4AH battery and charger for free.
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Ryobi is great for both DIYers and residential construction workers. Milwaukee is great for commercial contractors, those who want to get projects done more quickly and ergonomically, or those who just want tools that are as good as the black and decker tools from the 1960s if not better.
Hi, when the fuel gauge is on the tool, it does let you quickly check any battery, maybe even older gen pre fuel gauge stuff.
I still have a Porter Cable router that I bought about 20 years ago and it’s still going strong now that’s real nasss like.
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I believe the performance of that drill would improve greatly if the battery was at least 3.0Ah when you used the flat bit.
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I can say Porter Cable does make great corded tools and I've had awesome experiences with the routers in the past, Porter Cable has a long way to go to catch up with the cordless tools, I think the battery if you ran the drill with the spade bit first before the twist bit on a full charged battery it would have bored through the 2X4 easier.
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I quit Rioby more than 20 years ago. I've been using Porter Cable for more than 15 years now. Porter Cable, to me, is the best Harry Homeowner cordless tools out there !
There was a time when Porter Cable cordless tools were far advanced beyond DeWalt and Milwaukee. Then the black and decker buyout. Now compared to Ryobi. Crazy what 20 years and bad brand management can do to.
YESTERDAY I got a brushless driver with ( 2) 1.5 AH batteries for $59 GREAT PROMOTION . Started to search for extra batteries to go with my old PC tools and found this great deal !!
Been using 20 volt Max Porter Cable tools for over 5 years 7 days a week 365 days a year and they do have a big lineup never had a problem and that little battery charger is portable they do make a larger faster charger
"Is it worth that price?" yeah ... nope. 2x 1.5aH batteries and a charger they borrowed from their Black and Decker line? $89 kit all day.
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My first impact driver was a corded Porter-cable. I will be looking for these, just hope they come out with a better charger.
As a homeowner, used their products for years and loved them, never had any issues.
Thanks for the feedback j mert 👊
As A DIY had it for a few years the old ones that aren't brushless and it's been pretty good . Might not be pro grade but verry handy as a DIY tools . I've got the sawzall , circular saw , drill and driver for a few years . My old one came with much bigger charger that charges real fast , Even charges my 4.0 Ah battery quickly . Yes the small charger with this particular set is slow which as I've said I just bought yesterday . It was a spectacular deal $59 driver with two 1.5 Ah batteries
I find that paper packing stuff is nice for starting fires
I mentioned that tractor supply Got the porter Cable Line on a video I made a few days after my truck accident I am glad to see they may be gone from lowes but others like TSC and other small companies have Porter Cable now which is real Nasss Like great update and more information Clint @ToolReviewZone
Clint I found out the specs on that particular drill The 370 UWO motor delivers high output and the RPM is 1800 hope that helps
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@@ToolReviewZone tractor supply messed up on their website Stanley Black and Decker uses unit Watts out not mwo that makes no logical sense anyway if you check Amazon this deal going on right now on this exact drill check my channel I did a video on it I'm not trying to promote nothing on this channel you're my friend and I respect you
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This update is way better then mine Great work Clint as Always @ToolReviewZone
Lowe’s used to carry Porter Cable and then they picked up craftsman and dropped it.
Seems a bit pricey! You can get 2 (1.5Ah) batteries, the "brushed" version of that drill and the crappy charger for 69.99. My guess is head to head it wouldn't preform that much differently other than a "bit" more efficiency with battery life. Sure brushes wear out, but how many people in a non professional environment do you know wears the brushes out on their drills?
I wore my brushes out as a DIYer on 2 at the same time just recently. The Craftsman sander just burned out too, and the cord on my Craftsman 3/8 drill is fraying too. The blade lock went bad on my Craftsman circular saw too so I had to replace that too. Stuff seem to happen all at once while doing a garage. They only lasted 51 years. Cheap junk. Now I replaced it with cordless everything. I was going to bring them back to Sears and ask if they still took S&H green stamps but they weren't there. I haven't owned a sawzall yet but am looking and I've used one once before.
I've been using Porter Cable cordless tools since spring of '21, so a few months before this video was released.
I've got a couple of drills, the big impact driver (great for lug nuts), a couple of smaller impact drivers, a sawzall, a sander, and an angle grinder.
Most of these things came with at least one battery, as well as chargers, so I've got no problem with keeping fresh batteries on hand. Oh, and one of those chargers is a Rapid Charge.
I will say this; I bought a multi tooled set that included a circular saw and a sawzall. The circular saw died after I'd had it about a year, but it was only the 2nd or 3rd time I'd used it. The sawzall died shortly thereafter, but it had seen much more use. I purchased a new sawzall, but it was just that saw. The individual sawzall seems to be a much higher quality than the one that came in the kit. Time will tell if that assessment is accurate. I've not replaced the circular saw, yet, but I get the impression that the individual saw will be better than the set version here, as well.
On the angle grinder, I note that this thing sucks juice like a frat boy at a keg. So, you'll want plenty of fresh batteries before you start a project with that.
I use the smaller impacts the most; practically every day. One of them is brushless, the other is not. I think that I may like the brushful better than the brushless- it seems to have a tad more oomph for breaking stubborn bolts.
In my own experience, these Porter Cable tools seem quite sufficient for the Homeowner DIY demographic. Mine get used at a PWC/Boat/ATV/UTV dealership, in the course of assembly, service, and repair, on a regular basis. I also use them for a variety of projects at home, and I tend to do more than the average DIY homeowner. For the most part, they have served me well.
I bought into the Porter Cable line for a couple of reasons. One, they are affordable, so I was able to build a collection of cordless power tools very quickly, without breaking the bank. 2nd, I live in the middle of nowhere. Lowes and Home Despot are an hour drive from me, as is Harbor Freight. Tractor Supply, on the other hand, is right in town, right by everywhere I go. I pass them, every time I have to go somewhere. So, that's convenient. If I buy a tool that's DOA, I'm not losing another couple of hours, and burning a lot of gas, to go replace it. When my 1st sawzall died, I made a quick stop on the way to work to replace it, and already had charged batteries to power it. The inconvenience was minor.
In summary, these tools are sufficient tools, and they perform well for their price point. Again, my use is more than average homeowner and light/mid duty professional. On a professional level, I'd say that these are decent starter tools, a great way to get you working and making money, but you will definitely want to prepare to upgrade to a more heavy duty line by saving a bit from each job or check to drop in a tool fund. For the homeowner, I'd say that Porter Cable is a reasonable option for home repair, vehicle maintenance and repair, and most projects that you may tackle for personal enjoyment in your garage.
These tools aren't junk, but at the price, don't expect them to be Snap-On or Milwaukee. Understand your needs and your budget, research your reasonable options, and make your purchases accordingly.
I agree with your statement on buying the tools individually over the kit combo. The individual tools are of better quality. I bought all the tools separately rather than in the kit. And they have performed very well. I suggest up grading the batteries straight outta the gate. 4-5 ah batteries are a must.
Have an old porter cable half inch hammer drill corded of course but it still works and it's at least 1970s. Good tools last a lifetime
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At $139 I can probably get a Milwaukee starter kit for the same price or a few more. If this thing is struggling drilling holes I think it needs to be in the $79 or $69 dollar range…..they should focus on their jointer, planer, dove tail jig. That stuff is solid
"Literally shaved twice while it's charging" LMAO feel ya bro.
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Being a DIYer I use Ryobi not Ryobi because I find the power of these tools to be more than adequate for my needs. Over here in Australia we appear to pay more tax on items the you do in America.
Also being a DIYer I cannot justify the outlay for the more expensive brands.
I would buy this drill for the little jobs around the house that do not need a lot of grunt, especially over the head drilling projects because of it,s light weight. If you work within the device's limitations I feel it would come in very handy. 👍
Sorry I got nothing about Porter Cable drilling it's way to the HD DIYer group. I have used the generation before this and it did great.
Let me route my way to the routers. I used them for many years while I was a glazer. Plenty of power and easy to use
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They have better chargers
The Black and Decker, Boatich batteries and chargers can also be used with a quick modification
These are basically a skinned Black & Decker. The batteries are swappable with a slight modification. I'm not saying this is a bad tool I'm saying it's probably just a little bit worse than Ryobi still.
Ryobi killer?
Not a chance.
50 million Ryobi batteries already in homeowners garages.
I have a couple of PorterCable 20v lithium tools, drill and impact driver. Will the batteries still work?
Looks like the Black and Decker battery and charger. Love the vids
Thanks Paul!
I bought a 8 piece set like 2 years ago had all the tools u need
Sold at both Lowes and Home Depot... In stores in stock or online...
I’ve had Brushless porter cable drill and impact driver for about four years and they worked great they still work today and they do have a speed charger that comes in a bag for battery storage I don’t know if they still make it though I got that like three years ago
The real issue I have diy is one person is proud he hung a picture and a light. One is building a deck doing kitchen and bathroom remodels. The other big one with me porter cable used to be great for big heavy use stuff. If your a pro or industrial brand and step way down a few things happen. One the heavy use guys consider you trash if your learning or taking on a new project and asked them hey im doing x I'm looking at this tool and they say it's junk you trust their experience. Then it's tractor supply no one doing a bath a kitchen or deck or even insulation is going there.
you could buy the brushed ryobi drill, and the brushed impact p238 with two 1.5 ah batts and a charger with bag for 99.00 and I bet that cheap ryobi drill would smack that PC crap all day long, plus that p238 is a beast of an impact especially for an older brushed tool.
I got the drill and impact driver with two batteries and a big battery charger for 99$ on father's day sale about 4years ago
Been using porter cable cordless tools for years got the fast charger and several tools. eBay can be your friend when you are looking for some tools.
But their name is already trashed and looks the same to me. The batteries look exactly the same...cheap
I have the compact driver and I actually have a big charger so I'm looking at this review to see should I buy the package for the eight tools I think I'm in
IMO it def has way more power with the 4amp hour battery. Why they never sold the drills with the 4 is beyond me, guess they figured their target DIYers wouldn’t need that combo
The drill performs awesome with the 4amp battery. What bone head at Porter cable gave you the 2amp and that dinky charger.
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On self feeding bits i always have to put them on the first speed setting
Agree that PC is attempting to make a comeback. Should be interesting to see how they do at TSC. Clint - I think you should model for Maybelline with those long extensions and be their first male model 🤣. “Maybe he’s born with it, maybe it’s Maybelline”. 😂👊
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Will never touch another new Porter Cable tool until they bring back their routers.
They probably will. I would be surprised if they didn't sell them at TS as they are probably their most popular tool 🤷
I have had that same drill for years and the battery charger took a shit already
Sometimes my glasses do that goofy shit and I don’t realize until I finish a long face to face conversation with someone else.
So Porter Cable may not be as extinct as previously thought
I have use Porter Cable for years and upgraded to the newer cordless they have. I have had ZERO issues and trust these tools on any job.
The 1.5A battery is not a heavy duty battery for any line of tools.. throw the 4A on there and those tools EAT
Porter Cable has their work cut out for them if they want to take on Ryobi. Most farmers I know have at least one Ryobi tool and its 85% of the time the one blue and yellow drill those things seem to never die, but the batteries are the new lithium ones. TSC is going to have to have some major sales to get them in peoples hands cause right now I can get a Ryobi impact driver with a 1.5ah battery and charger for $39. I think really this Porter Cable is Stanley black and deckers way of fighting back against Hart not Ryobi.
It's possible they could be trying to compete with both 🤔 Thanks for the feedback
This tools been out for a while. I have a few of them that are 5 + years of use. Good quality and definitely a DYI tool. I did purchased them at Lowes and i have a big charger that fully charges in 15 minutes.
The Porter Cable Charger is Not Real Nass Like at all you can use craftsman batteries on these porter cable tools @ToolReviewZone
My little rule of thumb for power when buying a drill if it can’t go threw a 2x4 with a 1inch spade bit with one effortless go I don’t want it. Just takes to much time to re press the trigger and then possibly wait for the overheating to go away. Porter Cable is really trying tho!
Can't disagree 402. Thanks for the feedback 👊
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First thing it you are a professional use red or yellow even blue but if you like quality and dont want to spend a lot of money go green if you are a tool collector go gray and red
This looks like it comes from the same factory as Lidl’s Pakside. Nothing wrong with them for light DIY use. Cheap as chips I imagine, wait a second $189? Lille one is €60 plus €20 per battery. Plus the Lidl’s one looks like metabo
I was gifted a six piece set. And yes for a home owner they do the job.
I had some of the older tools they had years ago and thought they were very good ill have to give these a go thanks for the great review
Yep that’s the game changer right there! That charger sucks, that’s a black and decker charger. It’s so sad to see a once a great tool go down like a Playschool toy
Never look better Clint
Hahahaha, thanks Eddie 🤣👊
Those batteries looks straight like Stanley batteries from 20V series but got different colors :/
P.S Whole drill looks like a stanley, just compared it to mine :D
For anyone that does not want spend a ton of money I would suggest Skil . You will be surprised at their performance for the price.
i bought these two years ago and you couldn't find brushless vrsions anywhere. Mine have besically worn out and I am just a diyer, I was excited about PC coming back. They batteries are also stupid expensive and if you don't have the 4 hour on these you're going to charging up ever half hour our so.
I got on to Craftsman when they came out with the 20v stick vac. Also, Ryobi (and others) were slow to get a decent 7.25” miter out.
I try to shop ACE instead of Lowe’s so that removes the other aggravating aspect.
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I miss the old Porter Cable from the Norm Abraham Days. I have a 7 1/4 corded saw that is over 20 years old and still cuts like an animal. They had great tools.
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You should use the Dewalt batteries on the porter cable.
Yeah that tiny little sloooow charger and no battery indicator on the battery itself. Not cool! Even Worx batteries have indicators. As far as the build, it looks cheap, which is sad since it's carrying such a legendary name.
Will the older 18v fit the new 20v
Not sure, but doubt it
I officially gave up on them. Ever since the purchase of craftsman and literally pushing porter cable out the door and trashing their name. I feel that they kicked below the belt their customers who were vetted to that platform.
Yeah, I think many feel the same way Michael
Aaannndd porter cable is still garbage, thanks for the video
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I like porter cable I have there floor drill press I use it for metal and it’s great
I've been buying a lot of their smaller odds and ends like discs and things. They have been pretty good
I go to tractor supply the most for there amazing pricing on bulk hardware and other things great video Clint @ToolReviewZone
Porter Cable use to rock in the 90's to early 2000's all the specs use to beat out Dewalt. Back with the Nicad batteries. They a neat variable angle Sawzall it was a beast!
They do have their quick table charger, but it's $40 additional.
Back when porter cable was carried by Lowe’s I picked up a Brad nailer thing works great wasn’t crazy about the other tools but nice to see they got picked up by tractor supply
Porter cable , And Dewalt are OWNED by the same comany, sister company to Rigid, sound pretty good , but would it be the same as the other 2?,, Owe and craftsman is also the same comapny
Clints got that jheri curl look I do like the logo change so looks like Porter-Cable it's going to attempt to be a house brand for tractor supply that's ness like at least it's a battery indicator on a tool the older ones didn't even have it unless you bought the higher amp battery and then it came on the battery kind of like hart
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Looked to me like you were going in reverse during a couple of those tests but maybe optical illusion. Still based on the extreme difference in bit speed with the spade bit something seemed off. Even the difference between how it worked on high on the pine vrs treated
Seems a little modified from the set I bought four years ago, wasn't finding a set I liked and was affordable. Six months later everyone came out with brushless. For light use fine, but housing is cheap and when it torks out housing seams open.
Should have turned the chuck to the max it goes before using the spade bit. May have gotten a bit better performance. However if I'm able to do partial side then switch to other side I do as when it goes to the bust through, I have noticed bog down. But for the purposes of testing, I completely got it. If they can make them quality and bring the name back to what it was known for, definitely would be a good line depending on your needs. That battery and charger looks to be a direct clone of the black and decker of similar products.
I have the drill and impact for a year use them every work great I try destroying them before my warrant end in November damn there still going strong great buy 💪
I've been using Porter-Cable for about 2 years now doing general construction and these tools can hang. Their drills are their weak point though, I say if you're trying to drill a hole bigger than half an inch the drill is going to struggle, even with their so-called hammer drill, however I would not render them completely useless. This has been my experience with them, so I find it funny that they would send you the weakest product in their line.