They are both great for all around the tree. I love the RRP and Akimbo for pruning and removals. The only downfall is that the RRP is not the best on the spar. by the time you get to the spar its better to switch to the akimbo or to a rope wrench. Side loading is a big issue for both of them since they are both responsible for your life. However, the Akimbo is less prone to side loading during spar work. The downfall of the Akimbo is that it is tempera-MENTAL. Its almost bipolar because in the summer I can work fine on it during the morning but as the day becomes hotter it has a change in dynamic. Akimbo sucks for its volatile nature but shines on the spar compared to the RRP. The RRP sucks for its questionably thin metal but is absolutely silky smooth compared to the Akimbo which one will you buy?
For what it’s worth, anytime you are climbing SRS, you need to make sure your system is in working mode before you begin working. Even on a rope wrench and tether, you need to descend slightly to introduce the proper 180 degree bend via the two 90 degree bends of the rope wrench, to attain a proper setup for working g and descending. That goes for the Rope Runner Pro, as well. The entire purpose of the top sheave and slic pin is to add friction to reduce the load on the lower friction device.
I watched the RRP break test vids and I knew I wanted it. All 3 sections didn’t break under 2500lbs and some held up to 5000lbs. I’ll be a rope runner guy for life I can’t wait to see what they do with it in the future.
Man, that was the best comparison between the two that I have seen. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone talk about the possibility of freefall with the akimbo. And that fact, alone helped me make my decision between the two for SRT. Thanks for sharing. Great video.
I have heard ton of bird issues leading to free fall, with the rope runner. Don't hear to much of bad or good publicity with the akimbo. I got the akimbo now and love it. I do also wanna get my hands on a roperunner. And try it out
I have the rrp and it’s my daily with drt and srt! Tried the akimbo did not like it but the pro is much better in my opinion! - use the Samson Mercury 11mm - climbed in huge cottonwood in the cold rainy and some icy weather!! And the RRP was a champ, did not slide on me at all!! I’m impressed!!
Can You side load these devises? I think not. Sometimes out on big wide Eucalyptus or tropical trees you need to get in odd positions . ( or Stone pines for example. So I like the old rope wrench. But straight up trees I can see the advantage.
For a long time I climbed with vtt and micro pulley and then slowly open my mind to SRT devices and for may many reasons the rrp is ahead by a few milles ! I respect thé machine and it’s capabilities and limits but I feel way more in the zone using the Rrp and at the end of the day, that’s what matters to me 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Dude seriously, you will not be disappointed. The akimbo forces you to like it. If it was my only multicender I would fall in love with it. Because it sucks sometimes but works perfectly most of the time.
Been using hitchhiker x as first device. Its pretty damn good especially, once you get your hitch cord to climbing rope dialed in. Ive been eyeballing the rrp for quite some time now and I think Im gonna go for it for doing mostly srt! I just want to try one of the mechanicals and see if its any fun!
I'm a new recreational tree climber and I love the RRP - I use it in combination with the tachyon rope and it is a sweet system. it took a little bit of time at the beginning to dial in the screw adjustment but then it's all good. fun and safe! I'm still trying to learn how to use in DRT config, and it doesn't feel smooth at all. if you guys have any tips please let me know. your vid is posted Jul 25th and there is no leaves in sight on any of the trees.. I'm in the north east as well and I know there are leaves now LOL (0:
I was loving the Akimbo but its pretty much worn through in 10 months climbing, not possible to replace parts. This took the akimbo from 5 stars to 2 stars, plus the tending point is a pain always whips out when you dont want it too, nice when your ascending straight up but mostly a pain
What rigging plate are you using on your bridge? I’ve been curious as to which ones would have a large enough hole to go over the new sequoia rope bridge design. Thanks
Hello. I'm going to move from drt to srt. I'm torn between the chicane/zigzag combo and the pro runner. Any advice or info is appreciated . I'm leaving toward the pro runner. Why do you prefer it to the zig.
Min 2:34 Your Akimbo slipped cause you set it up way to loose for that rope, I have the exact same rope And I've never had an issue with it before try it @ my set up; G6. Let me know how it go. 😎👍🏼
I love the akimbo. Gotta say I never had a issue with it. It always bit down while I sat back. With any device if your sitting back without adjusting rope tension it will let you fall until it bites. But.... my coworker is selling me his roperunner pro he only climbed on like 5 times for a good price lol. Can't wait to try it. At this point it's like Pokémon to me lol started on a Blake's hitch, then then went to the zz and chicane. Then picked up a unicender. And just recently got the akimbo and love it! Gona try them all out! The only one is still have mixed emotions about is the unicender.
What rope are you using in this video? I’m also looking a buying a new pair of shoes for pruning. What shoes are you wearing. Love your videos! Also if you were to ever give a advance climbers course and I could attend I would!
I have both. I like the akimbo because it’s nice and small. The rope runner pro is too long in your face. The akimbo takes some play time fine running and adjusting. As your rope breaks in you have to redial it in again but once you understand how it works it’s not hard at all. I really like 👍 the akimbo best. Just act like it’s a women and it’s great at time and a pain at times. If the akimbo drops on you. You need to add more friction. Another helpful tip is too record your settings for each ropes your use. Hope this helps.
@@tylrpearson3165 like any device, Lil sticky but it will handle it really well. Use ours in big firs, spruce and pines. But I agree you have to dial in the friction but once you get it set to where it is there's no bleed or slippage even when tending. Pretty solid device highly recommend for SRT scenario and especially nice for a quick attachment as a rescue device!
If you dedicate an Adrenaline or Xstatic rope to the Akimbo, dont get it wet or sapp on it, its amazing. Thats pretty much bottom line. Once you start jumping ropes with it, don't bother. Probably the only thing i dont like about my RRP is how hard it is to push down on the bird when you start to descend. I donno if i don't have it adjusted right yet, not broken in yet, (got it 1 month ago, 3 or 4 climbs so far) or if its always like that. It actually hurts my fingers its so hard that i have to wear gloves. Only good thing about that is if a branch hits it probably won't engage it accidentaly. I still like my zig & chic combo best but buying uniscender next...God bless
Adjust it more. I had mine way to tight at first. Mines set for a really smooth pull on the samson poison ivy. Same setting is just a lil tight on my drenaline but its a happy middle switching ropes.
I’ve been debating the rrp vs. the ak . Always been a zz and hhx climber. This video has helped to clear the decision. I think I’ll go with the rrp. Really didn’t like that tumble you had with the ak.
I'll bash the Akimbo... when your up in the air like up up, I don't have enough confidence in it..I love my rrp. I gave my Akimbo any way for free true story
They are both really good. The one thing I love about the akimbo is that I can attach to the rope quickly. I love the rope runner because of how incomparably smooth it is.
That rope is garbage, they don’t make it anymore, I have one too and i retired it after the 2nd day of use too much slip, it’s a light rigging line now
Speaking of spar work, the fact that the akimbo is so small makes it easy to sit into which helps you stay comfortable in the tree. especially when you're packing the big saws.
I’ve been debating the rrp vs. the ak . Always been a zz and hhx climber. This video has helped to clear the decision. I think I’ll go with the rrp. Really didn’t like that tumble you had with the ak.
I just went from a zz to a rrp and theres nuances I like about each. The rrp is great for srt no contest but when I switch to drt the zig zag is more desirable with it's ability to self feed with one hand. They are minor differences that require getting used to but nothing that makes one vastly superior then the other. How do you like the rrp?(i'm assuming you ended up going that route haha)
They are both great for all around the tree. I love the RRP and Akimbo for pruning and removals. The only downfall is that the RRP is not the best on the spar. by the time you get to the spar its better to switch to the akimbo or to a rope wrench. Side loading is a big issue for both of them since they are both responsible for your life. However, the Akimbo is less prone to side loading during spar work. The downfall of the Akimbo is that it is tempera-MENTAL. Its almost bipolar because in the summer I can work fine on it during the morning but as the day becomes hotter it has a change in dynamic. Akimbo sucks for its volatile nature but shines on the spar compared to the RRP. The RRP sucks for its questionably thin metal but is absolutely silky smooth compared to the Akimbo which one will you buy?
For what it’s worth, anytime you are climbing SRS, you need to make sure your system is in working mode before you begin working. Even on a rope wrench and tether, you need to descend slightly to introduce the proper 180 degree bend via the two 90 degree bends of the rope wrench, to attain a proper setup for working g and descending. That goes for the Rope Runner Pro, as well. The entire purpose of the top sheave and slic pin is to add friction to reduce the load on the lower friction device.
The akimbo is a thicking time bomb, i've never felt safe around it. RRP is a true masterpiece
I watched the RRP break test vids and I knew I wanted it. All 3 sections didn’t break under 2500lbs and some held up to 5000lbs. I’ll be a rope runner guy for life I can’t wait to see what they do with it in the future.
Man, that was the best comparison between the two that I have seen. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone talk about the possibility of freefall with the akimbo. And that fact, alone helped me make my decision between the two for SRT. Thanks for sharing. Great video.
I Appreciate your feedback, thanks!!
I have heard ton of bird issues leading to free fall, with the rope runner. Don't hear to much of bad or good publicity with the akimbo. I got the akimbo now and love it. I do also wanna get my hands on a roperunner. And try it out
I have the rrp and it’s my daily with drt and srt! Tried the akimbo did not like it but the pro is much better in my opinion!
- use the Samson Mercury 11mm
- climbed in huge cottonwood in the cold rainy and some icy weather!! And the RRP was a champ, did not slide on me at all!! I’m impressed!!
Can You side load these devises?
I think not. Sometimes out on big wide Eucalyptus or tropical trees you need to get in odd positions . ( or Stone pines for example.
So I like the old rope wrench.
But straight up trees I can see the advantage.
@@popeyedog perhaps side loading carabiners?
Is your rope one of the approved ropes for the akimbo? With it not catching the rope it looks like you just need to adjust the bollards differently.
For a long time I climbed with vtt and micro pulley and then slowly open my mind to SRT devices and for may many reasons the rrp is ahead by a few milles !
I respect thé machine and it’s capabilities and limits but I feel way more in the zone using the Rrp and at the end of the day, that’s what matters to me 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Yeah that’s what matters. Being comfortable with your gear or lack thereof makes or breaks your whole day.
🤘 drifter
I’ve been debating the rrp vs. the ak . Always been a zz and hhx climber. This video has helped to clear the decision. I think I’ll go with the rrp.
Dude seriously, you will not be disappointed. The akimbo forces you to like it. If it was my only multicender I would fall in love with it. Because it sucks sometimes but works perfectly most of the time.
Been using hitchhiker x as first device. Its pretty damn good especially, once you get your hitch cord to climbing rope dialed in. Ive been eyeballing the rrp for quite some time now and I think Im gonna go for it for doing mostly srt! I just want to try one of the mechanicals and see if its any fun!
Dude :D u can open the rrp with Slic Pins (Self Locking Implanted Cotter Pin) it has 3 of them, which alows u to install it mid line
I love my wrench ! And it comes in purple 💜
I'm a new recreational tree climber and I love the RRP - I use it in combination with the tachyon rope and it is a sweet system. it took a little bit of time at the beginning to dial in the screw adjustment but then it's all good. fun and safe! I'm still trying to learn how to use in DRT config, and it doesn't feel smooth at all. if you guys have any tips please let me know. your vid is posted Jul 25th and there is no leaves in sight on any of the trees.. I'm in the north east as well and I know there are leaves now LOL (0:
I was loving the Akimbo but its pretty much worn through in 10 months climbing, not possible to replace parts. This took the akimbo from 5 stars to 2 stars, plus the tending point is a pain always whips out when you dont want it too, nice when your ascending straight up but mostly a pain
Rock Exotica will "rebuild" it for you. Send in the old one, they send you a new one for much less than buying new.
What rigging plate are you using on your bridge? I’ve been curious as to which ones would have a large enough hole to go over the new sequoia rope bridge design. Thanks
Great video. I have the zigzag, but want something that's mid line attachable. This video sold me on the RRP. The Akimbo looks sketch! 😬
I have a zigzag and chicane and a rope runner pro, I love the rope runner pro. And I love Srt, jsut started srt, love it.
Hello. I'm going to move from drt to srt. I'm torn between the chicane/zigzag combo and the pro runner. Any advice or info is appreciated . I'm leaving toward the pro runner. Why do you prefer it to the zig.
Min 2:34 Your Akimbo slipped cause you set it up way to loose for that rope, I have the exact same rope And I've never had an issue with it before try it @ my set up; G6. Let me know how it go. 😎👍🏼
Just so you know, kernmaster is not an approved rope for the Akimbo.
I love the akimbo. Gotta say I never had a issue with it. It always bit down while I sat back. With any device if your sitting back without adjusting rope tension it will let you fall until it bites. But.... my coworker is selling me his roperunner pro he only climbed on like 5 times for a good price lol. Can't wait to try it. At this point it's like Pokémon to me lol started on a Blake's hitch, then then went to the zz and chicane. Then picked up a unicender. And just recently got the akimbo and love it! Gona try them all out! The only one is still have mixed emotions about is the unicender.
I would love to try that uni out! It looks so sketchy but am curious to know the way it’s beneficial.
What rope are you using in this video? I’m also looking a buying a new pair of shoes for pruning. What shoes are you wearing. Love your videos!
Also if you were to ever give a advance climbers course and I could attend I would!
The rope it yale safari 11mm
I use the Akimbo for spar work, nice and tight setup. Apart from that, it sits.
Thanks for the review...
Are you going to try to uni sender?
Thanks on my bucket list.
Nice video. I wish you would cut that post off there at the base of the tree. I worry about coming down fast on something like that. I care. George.
it takes a bit to get use to the Akimbo but once you are its awesome to work with im loving it
I use an akimbo and love it. So I bought a rope runner pro with my petzl zig zag recall return money. And I haven’t used it yet. But I love it
They are both great tools in the tree and highly recommend them both.
Great review.
I have both. I like the akimbo because it’s nice and small. The rope runner pro is too long in your face. The akimbo takes some play time fine running and adjusting. As your rope breaks in you have to redial it in again but once you understand how it works it’s not hard at all. I really like 👍 the akimbo best. Just act like it’s a women and it’s great at time and a pain at times. If the akimbo drops on you. You need to add more friction. Another helpful tip is too record your settings for each ropes your use. Hope this helps.
Helps a lot. How does it hold up against sap?
@@tylrpearson3165 like any device, Lil sticky but it will handle it really well. Use ours in big firs, spruce and pines. But I agree you have to dial in the friction but once you get it set to where it is there's no bleed or slippage even when tending. Pretty solid device highly recommend for SRT scenario and especially nice for a quick attachment as a rescue device!
I'm a new akimbo user and so far love it in every way. Srt specifically
If you dedicate an Adrenaline or Xstatic rope to the Akimbo, dont get it wet or sapp on it, its amazing. Thats pretty much bottom line. Once you start jumping ropes with it, don't bother.
Probably the only thing i dont like about my RRP is how hard it is to push down on the bird when you start to descend. I donno if i don't have it adjusted right yet, not broken in yet, (got it 1 month ago, 3 or 4 climbs so far) or if its always like that. It actually hurts my fingers its so hard that i have to wear gloves. Only good thing about that is if a branch hits it probably won't engage it accidentaly. I still like my zig & chic combo best but buying uniscender next...God bless
Adjust it more. I had mine way to tight at first. Mines set for a really smooth pull on the samson poison ivy. Same setting is just a lil tight on my drenaline but its a happy middle switching ropes.
@@davidgeary3654 ok thanks i will...i started using it on the Drenaline but now I'm using Petzl Control 12.5 rope so i have to mess with it more
I use it on petzl flow and its nice, I also have petzl control and had the same problem.
I actually dont like petzl control at all not even with my zigzag.
What is your RRP friction set at?
like 3.5
Depends on your own personal weight. Climb low and slow to get it dialed in. Be safe
I'd love to see you try the Hitch Hiker X.
What kind of camera did you use to record this video? Super clear!
This video was filmed using a GoPro hero 9 black on 2.7k 60fps.
I’ve been debating the rrp vs. the ak . Always been a zz and hhx climber. This video has helped to clear the decision. I think I’ll go with the rrp. Really didn’t like that tumble you had with the ak.
Dude I have never seen heard or experienced my akimbo disengaging at all not a bit
Yeah, he needs to adjust more friction into it.
You also have to set it for the rope ur using mine don't fall like that
I'll bash the Akimbo... when your up in the air like up up, I don't have enough confidence in it..I love my rrp. I gave my Akimbo any way for free true story
Both devices are really helpful. Rope runner or Akimbo also easily control ascending and descending. But I prefer ZigZag than them.
Fuuuuck that. The akimbo “self-unlocks!”? I’m not spending $400 quid on that!!! I’d rather stick with the good’ol rope wrench!
Even so the akimbo is probably my favorite to climb on.
@@chtclimbing hey, to each their own. I ain’t got the balls 😂. Like your content. Be safe. Have fun.
Not one word about descending
when the akimbo just slid down to your knees, that was a very dangerous situation!
I would never trust this one.
It’s weird but turned out to be my favorite device.
@@chtclimbing so you recommend ak over rrp? im still tossing between what one to buy i havent tried either
They are both really good. The one thing I love about the akimbo is that I can attach to the rope quickly. I love the rope runner because of how incomparably smooth it is.
Seeing the device instead of hands and grass would have been much more helpful
zig zag is better overall
I was just using it the other day.
That rope is garbage, they don’t make it anymore, I have one too and i retired it after the 2nd day of use too much slip, it’s a light rigging line now
👋👍🦊🇲🇫
Akimbo is great spar work tool. RRP is clunky in your face
Speaking of spar work, the fact that the akimbo is so small makes it easy to sit into which helps you stay comfortable in the tree. especially when you're packing the big saws.
какой то дурак.
ничего по делу так и не сказал
одни только "свои додумки"
НАДО ДЕТАЛИ И ФАКТЫ
а не мямлить
I’ve been debating the rrp vs. the ak . Always been a zz and hhx climber. This video has helped to clear the decision. I think I’ll go with the rrp. Really didn’t like that tumble you had with the ak.
I just went from a zz to a rrp and theres nuances I like about each. The rrp is great for srt no contest but when I switch to drt the zig zag is more desirable with it's ability to self feed with one hand. They are minor differences that require getting used to but nothing that makes one vastly superior then the other. How do you like the rrp?(i'm assuming you ended up going that route haha)