Great product compares. Would love to see more when you get different systems. It would also be good to get a running tracker sheet showing the component listing for each model along with MSRP... to see what's the same, and what's different.
Me and my girlfriend Shanna love installing the Armstrong air brand. Its the same identical thing as the Lennox Elite series, but for a way more cheaper price than lennox, and is a very high quality unit. We also install either Ducane or the Airflo brand which is also identical to the lennox merrit series which is what you have here in your video. The merrit seties is basically the builders grade unit. You are right about ADP coils. They are used with many manufactores, and are just rebadged with a different name. However Trane does design and make their own evap coiks. Also ICP owns carrier, and bryant now. It amazes me how a company can make one unit, and put a brand name on it like lennox or carrier, and now you have a unit that costs 5 times more, and many consumers are not aware of that. Same goes for goodman, they make Amana and the amana is simply a rebadged goodman now worth 3 times as much as the original goodman. Shame on these companies for doing this.
The amana furnaces have stainless steel primary hxt instead of aluminized. they also have different compressor in the entry 13 and 14 units. goodman is using some rotaries in their gsx13/14 instead of scroll.
The Lenox louvers are oriented horizontally the correct way. Allied louvers are oriented vertically, not good. Having adjusted hail claims for years, I can attest that the horizontal louvers protect the coil, while the vertical louvers provide hardly no protection from hail.
fun fact. actually TRUE AHRI efficiency is higher for ALLIED complete systems - 16SEER because they equip their systems with larger evaporator coils. we had customer who wanted Lennox badge but got 15SEER true AHRI efficiency, not 16SEER he could get with ALLIED.
@@airbluehvac its a numbers game. what happens in the real world on crap duct systems in attics, charging to beer can cold, 1 ton per 500 sq ft is totally different. seer rating goes out the windows.
@@Jon-hx7pe you are absolutely correct that you can ruin unit efficiency with bad installation but with all the same variables higher seer(efficiency) unit will be more efficient. actually 2 stage unit will be so much more efficient in case if ductwork is undersized/restricted/original, because 90% of the time it will run in low stage what is great for restricted ductwork applications etc.
It does not matter what manufacture ,you will never get the rated seer or efficiency from the equipment. You are putting the equipment in real life situations and not the manufacture test centers.
hello you are absolutely correct. installation matters the most. and higher seer rated equipment will be more efficient in same conditions. so if you can get great quality higher seer equipment by choosing right manufacturer then its the way to go.
Great product compares. Would love to see more when you get different systems. It would also be good to get a running tracker sheet showing the component listing for each model along with MSRP... to see what's the same, and what's different.
They are really the same thing with different price point. Both will last a long time if properly installed and maintained.
Me and my girlfriend Shanna love installing the Armstrong air brand. Its the same identical thing as the Lennox Elite series, but for a way more cheaper price than lennox, and is a very high quality unit. We also install either Ducane or the Airflo brand which is also identical to the lennox merrit series which is what you have here in your video. The merrit seties is basically the builders grade unit. You are right about ADP coils. They are used with many manufactores, and are just rebadged with a different name. However Trane does design and make their own evap coiks. Also ICP owns carrier, and bryant now. It amazes me how a company can make one unit, and put a brand name on it like lennox or carrier, and now you have a unit that costs 5 times more, and many consumers are not aware of that. Same goes for goodman, they make Amana and the amana is simply a rebadged goodman now worth 3 times as much as the original goodman. Shame on these companies for doing this.
The amana furnaces have stainless steel primary hxt instead of aluminized. they also have different compressor in the entry 13 and 14 units. goodman is using some rotaries in their gsx13/14 instead of scroll.
Would expect anything different, allied has been making lennox for years, also ducane furnaces are owned by allied, which is used by multiple brands
The Lenox louvers are oriented horizontally the correct way. Allied louvers are oriented vertically, not good.
Having adjusted hail claims for years, I can attest that the horizontal louvers protect the coil, while the vertical louvers provide hardly no protection from hail.
We are in California))))
2 stage ALLIED have horizontal louvers.
would liked to have heard about the compressors.
Great comparison!
Didn’t realized Lennox made by Allied
well, it's better to go with two smaller units than a singl5 large unit, don't you think?
i would go with single unit true variable stage
Assuming they both have the same compressor part number, the Lennox has a larger condenser, so it might be more efficient
fun fact. actually TRUE AHRI efficiency is higher for ALLIED complete systems - 16SEER because they equip their systems with larger evaporator coils.
we had customer who wanted Lennox badge but got 15SEER true AHRI efficiency, not 16SEER he could get with ALLIED.
@@airbluehvac its a numbers game. what happens in the real world on crap duct systems in attics, charging to beer can cold, 1 ton per 500 sq ft is totally different. seer rating goes out the windows.
@@Jon-hx7pe you are absolutely correct that you can ruin unit efficiency with bad installation but with all the same variables higher seer(efficiency) unit will be more efficient. actually 2 stage unit will be so much more efficient in case if ductwork is undersized/restricted/original, because 90% of the time it will run in low stage what is great for restricted ductwork applications etc.
The difference is how both identical units are tested.
Hey Just subscribed Like your comparison and overviews.
It does not matter what manufacture ,you will never get the rated seer or efficiency from the equipment. You are putting the equipment in real life situations and not the manufacture test centers.
hello you are absolutely correct. installation matters the most. and higher seer rated equipment will be more efficient in same conditions. so if you can get great quality higher seer equipment by choosing right manufacturer then its the way to go.
define a supposed right manufacturer