I essentially typed out your video since I skipped around so much that I got impatient and frustrated. I hope this is helpful to other people who, like me, mess up at totally different parts each attempt lol. I still haven't cleared it, but I know I will because your guides have hard carried me through so much already. You're the best. Build (0:44): Gear > Rune Blade, Cetran Bracer, Genji Gloves Materia row 1 > Magic Focus - Lightning and Wind, HP Absorb - Wind, Enemy Skill, ATB Boost, Phoenix Materia row 2 > Elemental - Fire and Ice, MP Absorb - Wind, Swiftcast - Wind, Magic Up, First Strike Weapon Skills > Magic Attack Power +20, ATB Charge Rate Up, Full-Power Magic, Enemy Parts Damage * Make sure your stats are maxed in the folios. Remove synergy abilities to free up SP. Notes: When I say "[x] ATB," build to that number by attacking. Build ATB for Zack: hold square until he's in the air after 3 strikes, quickly release square, then hold square again for 3 strikes coming down. Build ATB for Cloud: spam square in Punisher mode, hold square in Prime mode. Berserk: hold square for 2 hits in Punisher mode, 3 in Prime. Fury: hold square for 4 hits in Prime mode. I will note when you NEED it to do enough damage. It's otherwise recommended but not required. If I put a name in parentheses, don't switch, just give them the command. Assume you need to be QUICK at the start of each round. Titan (3:10): 1. Spam buttons to enter Tactical Mode ASAP 2. Zack > Stop 3. Cloud > ATB Boost > get close to Titan > Prime Mode > 2 ATB > Wind 3 5. Zack > 1 ATB during Wind > Stop 6. Cloud > 2 ATB > Wind 3 7. Zack > 1 ATB while Cloud casts 8. STAGGERED 9. Zack > Stop 10. Cloud > 2 ATB > Wind 3 Hueyacoatl (4:47): 1. Cloud > dodge > ATB Boost > Prime Mode > 2 ATB > Wind 3 2. Zack > 1 ATB > dodge Supercharged > Stop once Hueyacoatl lands 3. Cloud > 2 ATB > Wind 3 4. Zack > 2 ATB > dash away > Stop > Faith on Cloud 5. Cloud > 2 ATB > Wind 3 Phoenix (6:37): 1. Zack > Faith on Cloud 2. Cloud > Prime Mode > build ATB > Wind 2 on Flan when Phoenix uses Breath of Creation 3. Cloud > Build ATB > Wind 2 on Bomb 4. Cloud > 2 ATB (activate Fury) > Wind 2 on Grandhorn 5. Cloud > ATB Boost > Ice 3 6. Zack > 2 ATB while Cloud casts > Ice 3 7. STAGGERED 8. Cloud > 2 ATB > Ice 3 * Must beat before Staggered ends Brineborn Demon (9:24): 1. QUICKLY switch to Cloud > dash towards 2 o'clock > ATB boost > Fire 3 2. (Zack) > Stop 3. Cloud > Punisher Mode > Berserk > 2 ATB > Fire 3 4. Zack > 1 ATB 5. Switch to Cloud 6. (Zack) > Faith on Cloud 7. STAGGERED 8. Cloud > Punisher Mode > Berserk > 2 ATB > Fire 3 Kujata (10:50): 1. Zack > Faith on Cloud 2. Cloud > dodge > ATB Boost > Prime Mode > build ATB (block attacks, dodge Ferocious Lion to avoid paralysis, dodge Thunderous Stomp) 3. Cloud > Wind 3 when Kujata tries to summon element 4. Cloud > continue 2 ATB > Wind 3 loop * If Kujata changes element, use lv 3 spells of the element it's weak to 2x. Ironclad (14:00): 1. Zack > Faith on Cloud 2. Cloud > ATB Boost > Prime Mode > circle behind Ironclad's right leg > 2 ATB > Wind 3 * Thunder is more effective, but Wind is better for its speed, healing, and MP neutrality. * Dash behind and far away when he uses Condemned or Thanatosian Blade. Alexander (15:53): 1. Zack > Faith on Cloud 2. Cloud > approach one arm > ATB Boost > Prime Mode > Fury > 2 ATB > Thunder 2 on each arm 3. Cloud > get behind Alexander > 2 ATB (Fury) > Wind 3 > repeat * If he recovers from Staggered, he will recreate his arms. Beat him before that. * Use R1 + X or O to use Counterfire on projectiles as Cloud. Mindflayer (17:40): 1. Zack > Faith on Cloud 2. Cloud > ATB Boost > Prime Mode > Wind 3 * When Zack builds an ATB on his own, cast Manawall on Cloud to be safe. * Dodge away from Astral Apprehension and Sinister Seizure. * After Telekinesis, either interrupt Psychotic Break with Wind 3 or hide behind a rock. Bahamut Arisen (20:30): 1. Zack > Faith on Cloud 2. Cloud > dash away > ATB Boost > Prime Mode > Counterfire (R1 + X or O) on projectiles > 2 ATB 3. Cloud (during Particle Charge) > Wind 2 on each wing > 2 ATB (Fury) > Wind 3 4. Cloud (after Transform) > hold block until Particle Charge > Wind 2 on each wing > 2 ATB (Fury) > Wind 3 5. Cloud > try to stagger with Wind 3 right before Neodrive's attacks begin 6. STAGGERED 7. Cloud > Wind 3 > 1 ATB > ATB Boost > Wind 3 * When he's holding 2 blades, Bahamut will focus on physical attacks. * OPTIONAL: you can allow Crush Grip to catch Cloud use that time to build ATB on Zack so he can cast Manawall and Haste on Cloud. * Make sure Faith is always up on Cloud. Odin (24:31): 1. Zack > Faith on Cloud 2. Cloud > dodge away > ATB Boost > Prime Mode > 2 ATB > Wind 3 3. (Zack) > Manawall on Cloud 4. Cloud (during Sleipnir's Furor) > dodge away and then back in > Prime Mode > 2 ATB (earned mostly by blocking) > Wind 3 > 2 ATB > Wind 3 > build ATB until staggered 5. STAGGERED 6. Cloud > Wind 3 > 2 ATB > Wind 3 7. (Zack) > Manawall on Cloud when he builds up ATB 8. Cloud > 2 ATB > Wind 3 > 2 ATB > Wind 3 9. Zack (during Spatial Distortion) > attack until Temporal Imprisonment 10. Cloud > 2 ATB > Wind 3 * Try to complete step 4 before Pressured wears off. * Dash away during Ring of Helheim. * The only attack that won't be interrupted by Reprisal is a lv 3 spell. GOOD LUCK!! ETA: I DID IT within an hour or two of posting this hell yeah
Dawg you aren’t gonna believe this. But I was having SEVERE trouble with this. More so than rulers ngl. And I followed BOTH optinoob’s guides. Yet this one I couldn’t crack. But using your comment with the strategy spelled out for me to read along as I played……..I did it after 3 more attempts. This comment is the reason I’m getting platinum. THANK YOU!! (And to you too Optinoob, if you’re reading this!!)
Your comment save me dude! For a inexplicable reason, read instead of watching the vídeo work better for me. One thing or two got out of control, but i managed to get past it. Thanks optinoob and your comment.
THANK YOU FOR THISSSSS Odin kept kicking my ASS right at the finish line, but this comment along with the video really helped me through it, so thank you thank you
An extra tip you can add for the odin fight is to use a limit to avoid imprisonment. Otherwise, your typed out summary helped me with the other 9 fights.
This challenge utterly BROKE me, if it wasn't for you posting these, I'd still be stuck on the first Brutal challenge. You have been an absolute saviour in helping a lot of people obtain platinum and I am one of those - finally after 179 hours and literal tears. Seriously. Thank you so much Opti - may your steel foreskin guide you
I never comment on videos. This man's guides are so f****n' amazing. THANK YOU! I've platinumed games like Demon's Souls (PS3 & PS5), Dark Souls 3, Sekiro, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring. I've beaten every boss in the Soulsborne series, and I can unequivocally say I would NOT have be able to beat these challenges as quickly as I did without your guides, Opti. That being said these guides will give you the HOW of the challenges, but you have to fabricate the WHO. Pausing the game and following the guide got me through to about 15% on Odin on my first run. It then took me another 8 hours of retrying to finally beat it. 1) Be patient with yourself. Understand it will take time. Don't give up, but give yourself a break if you find yourself getting worse (it will happen and its okay.) 2) Learn and commit the first 9 fights to memory as soon as you can. It will help you with subsequent retries. 3) Use the Odin (Full Might) 1v1 with Cloud Combat Sim to practice the final phase without having to spend 11 mins to get there (and learn things like when Odin does Spatial Distortion, if there is cyberpunk effects on the floor, then get to the other side of the wall before it becomes impermeable or else you will take Damage over Time.) 4) Commit hard to your Prime Mode attack cycles and learn what damage you can take (that you will then heal up with your Aeroga), and what attacks you can afford to Prime Mode block-counter (underrated). Also, what attacks to quickly dodge out of (anything with a "/!\", Sleipnir's Furor, Charge). 5) YOU. GOT. THIS. Opti gave you the map, but you have to condition yourself to get over the terrain. It will take time. It will be rewarding when you get there, and you WILL get there. You got this. Congratulations when you do, because you have earned it.
Thank you I needed to hear this! I just finished to be a hero with optinoobs guide. And they got me through a few hard mode story fights. Just need this one to finally platinum it. Could’ve never done it without these guides.
same here. then I went to fight just him (full power) and only with Cloud to learn how to block and dodge his attacks (blocking is better since it pressures him much faster in primal mode). I spent 10 minutes doing this and beat him the first time I fought him in Bonds of Friendship :D
A few days ago, I thought obtaining the platinum trophy was absolutely out of my reach, and tonight, I’ve just obtained it. And all thanks to you! Thank you for helping me appreciate that game even more !
Defeated in 2024, came back in 2025 to get it! Thanks so much Opti. Your guides gave me motivation and definitely got me good at this game. I join the many people here in thanking you!
I did it, after TEN HOURS of trying I finally fucking did it last night. Opti, I'm telling you, I wanted to cry tears of joy. In over ten years of trophy hunting, I've never felt such agony trying to obtain Platinum - Bonds of Friendship is easily one of the hardest challenges I've ever conquered as a gamer. I can't even take all the credit though because I used your amazing guide, but even with that it was still excruciatingly difficult. I cannot thank you enough for these outstanding guides, man. I did the first five Brutal challenges with my own build but I categorically refused to attempt Ruler of the Outer Worlds and the Legendary Bouts without a proper guide. Without you, I definitely would've given up on this Platinum, so I just subscribed to your Patreon to show my support.
Congrats. Any tips ? To help us do his strategy even if we f ed up some steps, what do u think helped u the most in ur own experience with his strategy
@@aali4726 Thanks. Yes I do have a couple tips actually: 1. When Odin casts Spatial Distortion, make sure you're in the middle of the arena so that you can quickly move over to the non-electrifying side with your partner. Also, when he gets close to about a quarter health, switch to Zack because he's about to cast Temporal Imprisonment and start building up ATB to cast Manawall on Cloud, Healing, Haste, etc. If all those effects are already applied just try to damage and pressure him as much as possible before he subdues Zack. I cast Fira a couple times and surprisingly that pressured him quite a bit. Doing this will also take his attention off Cloud. 2. To speed things up with the Mindflayer, I recommend doing the synergy ability to pressure him. Obviously, all you gotta do is get to Synergy Level 3 which will happen naturally with Cloud but you gotta make sure to cast two additional ATB actions with Zack; whenever Cloud is casting Aeroga, simply switch to Zack to quickly build up one ATB. I suggest Manawall then Haste on Cloud. Now when he goes to do his next Psychotic Break, use the synergy ability to cancel the attack and pressure him - this'll speed up things up a lot.
I destroyed both of Alexander's arms right away and when I did I ran behind him like you did and he just did a 180° turn and shot me with something and killed me.....
This is the last trial I need to get the trophy. I’ve lost count how many times I’ve tried this - but thanks to this guide, I can get to round 9 (Bahamut) most of the time. Occasionally I can make it to round 10 (Odin), and on my last run I got Odin down to 30% health. Slow but steady progress - hopefully one day soon I’ll be able to crack it Thanks so much for this guide, it has been invaluable so far! EDIT: And with that - after about 20 hours of dedication - it’s finally done! It was a clutch victory against Odin (thanks to Zack’s limit break at the last second before death). Now on to Temple of the Ancients, and the Platinum - full steam ahead!
Did you get it in the end? I am pretty much the same; most times I can get to Odin but then he gets me. Even when he casts spatial distortion, for some reason he doesn't go on to cast the temporal spell. What's going on? Which of his abilities other than the one mentioned in the video can't be blocked in prime mode please?
I made cliff notes that helped me out so I didn't have to keep rewatching specific parts of the video. Thank you opti!! R1 Z - Stop C - ATB boost and prime Z - 1 ATB then stop when pressured C - Aero 3 x 3 R2 C - dash out of way C - ATB boost and prime C - Aero 3 Z - Stop after he lands C - Aero 3 Z - Stop and faith C - Aero 3 R3 Z - Faith C - NO ATB C - prime C - Aero 2 on 3 enemies C - ATB boost after grand horn C - Ice 3 when pressured Z - Ice 3 C - Ice 3 R4 C - dash away 2 o'clock C - ATB boost Fire 3 Z - Stop when pressured C - punisher spam square Fire 3 Z - 1 ATB faith C - punisher spam square Fire 3 R5 Z - faith C - dodge, ATB boost prime C - Aero 3 when element summon Get rid of wind or lightning crystals R6 Z - faith C - ATB boost prime Stay behind C - Aero 3 till dead R7 Z - faith C - Go to arm and ATB boost prime C - get fury active Thunder 2 on each arm C - get behind and do Aero 3 until dead R8 Z - faith Z - build up for Manawall C - ATB boost prime C - Aero 3 till dead R9 Z - faith C - dash away ATB boost prime C - Use counterfire to block or normal mode block When C is grabbed - Z - manawall then haste on C C - Aero 2 on each wing C - Aero 3 C - hold block when he transforms C - when partical charge, Aero 2 on each wing C - play careful and Aero 3 till dead R10 Z - faith C - dodge ATB boost prime C - be careful and block in prime mode C - Aero 3 Z - Manawall Z - switch to Z when odin does spectral distorting
THANK YOU for doing this! I also work much faster off of notes, and you saved me a ton of effort! You helped me get the win just now just as much as Opti did.
This just helped me out today. I had been determined to not watch guides really. After 20 titan fights, and 10 bahamut fights or so, I ended up here. The video helped a lot, but I still had trouble. These notes and my notes added to them got me to Odin finally. I was really worried about Odin after all I read, but I absolutely destroyed him first try. I don't know how much was luck but I'll take it. Thanks guys.
Putting Odin at the end of this challenge was absolutely brutal. I think someone hurt Nomura and he's taking it out on us. Thanks a bunch for helping me get through it and all the other brutal/legendary stuff.
I’m literally crying right now right after beating bonds of friendship. Had trouble with it yesterday, always dying either on bahaumut or Odin. Woke up this morning and beat it on the first try after my cup of coffee. Thanks Optinoob!
Got all the way to Odin on the first try following this guide, lost to him and then got stuck on Titan and Hueyacoatl for a half dozen tries, then got back to Odin on the next try and beat him. Thank you for taking the time not only to explain what you're doing, but also why you're doing it and when -- truly makes it easy.
Just finished these last two legendary bouts last night using almost exactly the same strat. Found another youtuber doing the same build. However, they didn't use Stop on most of the enemies that were susceptible to it. Anyways, I used your guides for most of the solo fights and I just wanted to say thanks. Also, I love how you explain your reasonings behind certain builds and go over the encounters step-by-step. Keep up the good work!
I’ve actually already completed this and Sephiroth, but I was still waiting for you to drop this guide. I’m so glad you even mentioned Weapon Level 9 lol, cause everyones posting there guides at level 10 and not mentioning it. You’re the king of this game lol. Everyone on UA-cam wants to put “easy” on their guides, but your guides are comprehensive and truly the only easy guides, even the worst player can complete a challenge if they followed your guides. You earned the subscribe and likes. Amazing guides always Optinoob 10/10
There is a weapon level 10?? So 9 isnt even the max level??? Yea, 'Easy' is clickbaited a lot nowadays, same with the term 'Walkthrough' which are basically Playthroughs not walk
@@Optinooby Oh, I thought you could get your weapon to 10! If it’s only 9 that makes sense then. I’m still working on my hard mode play through because of work, so I’m still at 8. 9 gives a significant damage boost to weapons tho when I look at the “Next level Upgrade” 100% agree! very clickbaity. Either way, we all know you’re always going to come through with amazing guides! Hope you blow up, you deserve it.
Like everyone else here I just want to thank you so much for the time and effort you put into these videos as without out them there is no way I would have got the Platinum! It is currently 01:28 in the morning and after a week of trying I have FINALLY beaten Odin! Just a couple of notes for any one who is struggling: 1) I replaced the Enemy Skill Materia with a HP PLUS Materia and by doing this it saved my ass on more than one occasion! 2) Apart from the first Fight against Titan do NOT spam the back buttons to open the Menu. This resulted more than once for me with Zacks first ATB bar not quite filling causing a delay which caused havoc on fights such as Alexander. 3) Do not give in! Just take breaks from it every now and again to relieve the stress levels! 4) Do not expect the fights to go exactly like they did in the videos. Some are very RNG based! Odin was kicking my ass all over the place but on the run I defeated him I did it even quicker than in the video! 5) All the fights are about trying to defeat the boss as quick as possible so you need to be aggressive else alot of them 'evolve' and start kicking your ass. 6) Remember that Aero Magic also heals you so even if it is not the time to do the magic attack use it if you are low on energy. 7) Bahmut - Block all his attacks, do not attack him you will build ATB from blocking and only use your magic when his 2 wings come out...disable them and try and get a level 3 aero on the body. 8) Odin - Stay in Prime mode and go at him from the start. Watch for when a move name comes above his head and then block. Blocking raises your ATB and his stagger. Use Level 3 Aero as soon as it becomes available. 9) When Cloud is casting magic switch to Zak and have a few cheeky hits against the enemy. This will build his ATB bar and allow him to use Cure and Barrier magic. Sometimes I would leave Zak with 2 full ATBS as a precaution so he could cast RAISE, Cure or Barrier Magic in a split second. Good Luck all And thanks again Optinoob!
When Odin imprisons one of your characters, you can get out of it by using a synergy ability! I've literally just scraped by and managed to beat Odin first attempt! Great guide, just one more challenge to go!
If you limit break is up you can use your limit break just in case you have cloud selected when he does temporal imprisonment. I'm sure synergy ability will work too but I know limit break for sure will resit the stop.
I have the platinum now and it’s largely in thanks to these amazing videos. I appreciate how thorough each one I’ve watched has been for each of these VR missions. I was able to beat this one and the Sephiroth one in 2 tries each with these builds. I made it to Odin both of my failed attempts and he rofl stomped me but the second try I played more aggressively and it was a breeze. Thanks a ton man keep up the great content I’ll definitely be watching more videos if you cover a game I’m playing.
Finally beat this to get the platinum. I can’t thank you enough for all you videos that got me here. After a week of trying this I finally got it. Before round 9 and 10 I paused and took 5 minutes to watch your fight and relax. Really helped.
I finally did it man, I got my platinum. Your guides got me through every one of these challenges. Never seen a better guide series, thank you for all you did, I couldn’t have done it without yah!
@@kingkazma3246 AGREED!!! I remember when reaching level 99 in a Final Fantasy game made you OP and you could breeze through any challenge with one hit kills. That was your reward for level grinding dozens of hours. This is a pain even at level 70 with mastered materia across the board!
Looking forward to trying this one out, you make it look so easy! Really appreciate you breaking down the builds and strats while going through each round, most UA-camrs just smash out the challenge and do a basic breakdown! Keep up the good work man 👍
You are a LEGEND, sir!!! It took me about 15 or so attempts, but your guides are now the only ones I look for! Absolutely brilliant. Well-explained. And definitely doable! Keep up the great work, Optinoob! Now on to “To Be a Hero!”
I can't believe it, I finally got my platinum trophy after about 240 hours...all thanks to your guides!! I wouldnt have been able to platinum this game without your super detailed guides! Thank you so much for your dedication to the FF community!!
I don’t normally comment on videos but all your strats have kept me sane trying to complete all the brutal/legendary bouts. You have earned my sub and I thank you!!!
You are a golden God. These guides literally saved me so many hours of trial and error. Not ashamed that I used them. Awesome video my man; you have the honour of a true SOLDIER.
Bro, I was really about to give up on the platinum trophy because of this challenge. I even switched to playing other games. But then I stumbled upon your video, and it reignited my hope. Although it took quite a bit of time, I finally did it! I just got the platinum trophy! Thank you so much, your tutorial was incredibly detailed and effective!
Just wanted to give a huge thank you to you dude. I loved this game and if it weren’t for me platinuming Remake back in 2020 I wouldn’t have bother but man did your guides make things a breeze. I really only struggled with this one and The Seventh Seal. You’re a legend!
Finally managed to beat this challenge after many many hours stuck on Odin. Many times when I’d see Odin only having a little bit of health I’d keep rushing him instead of staying calm and kept dying lol. Thanks very much for this awesome guide.
There is NO better guide for a beginner play through. There just isn't. this build (which I saw another creator use) is OP for this bout and your tips are just 100/10 mate. A tip I have for anyone doing Odin in this bout is do not panic at any point. I did that and it cost me my first two tries. Calm and collected and doing what you do in this guide got me through. Bravo, mate. Bravo.
I want to say a HUGE thank you for helping me with this platinum. I watched all of your brutal and legendary combat simulator guides and it helped me so much. I wouldn’t have done it with you, you’re the man!! THANK YOU
Hey I don’t normally comment but your guides on rebirth have been absolutely phenomenal, some of the best guides in general I’ve ever seen. I can tell the time you put into them as I’ve seen others use similar strategies to the ones you present but yours are always more precise and foolproof no doubt from your knowledge of the game as well as the many attempts you’ve done off camera. Hope your channel explodes my friend, you deserve it!
@@Optinoobyit's true, your videos are literally the best I've seen. The fight methods, precise narrating, nothing else like it from what I've found and watched. You definitely deserve more likes and subscribers
Wow bro, what an excellent way of showing how the build works. I was struggling with this challenge for 2 days with other guides. And did it first try with your vid.. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🔥🔥🔥
I have no issues with the difficulty level being high. It’s having to go through 9 rounds to reach the final round again and again that ruins it. Very, very poorly designed.
This and then also being forced to watch all of those "in-fight cutscenes" like Phoenix reviving Kujata. To be fair, they mostly happen in the campaign (the final fight with Sephiroth is ridiculous with these), but still, come the fuck on Square, I don't need to watch the same animations over and over and over.
that is what MAKES the difficulty high though so youre kinda contradicting yourself. If it was a single battle or had checkpoints after each fight then it would just be a single battle and it wouldnt have anywhere near the same level of difficulty. The whole point and the difficulty comes from the number of rounds. edit: also, as mentioned in the video, there are other places in the game where you can fight any of these enemies in a single fight so if specific enemies are killing you every time then its possible and probably a good idea to go do that boss and only that boss until you understand it better. That's also why the rounds are the entire point, if it was just a single fight we already have those in the game elsewhere so it would be redundant.
@@SpydersBytedisagree! It’s bad design cuz u can’t save or edit your setup once u enter the challenge. You should be able to save after beating one opponent but lose the save once u continue like a checkpoint not really a saved game cuz if u want to take a break u have to pause sometimes people don’t have time to make this challenges they are too long.
@@batiseven I mean... the run took Opti less than 12 minutes, if you cant side aside 15 minutes to play then this probably isnt the game for you. Also its entirely possible to just use pause mid-battle and put the ps5 to sleep and you essentially have your checkpoint. As far as editing setup goes, well thats just part of the challenge. Youre supposed to make a build that can defeat all 10 of these bosses, thats what makes it difficult, if you could tailor your build every single round it would be waayyyy easier. It seems like a lot of people miss the fact that these are the brutal, beyond-end-game challenges. They arent required to finish the game so if theyre painful for you then just dont do them, its not going to affect your experience of the game or the story.
@@ironknuckb I ended up completing it earlier yesterday after editing the class a little bit, only the sephiroth fight left but i still thank you for the encouragement 🤝
@@newbalance5250 I DID complete the sephiroth one... i still have yet to complete the zack one (on try 80), the sephiroth one is alot easier, jus know how to do sephiroths dash n spam tech (theres videos on that) but i cant do the zack one,, these monsters are too dayum OP and zacks such a lil b**** he spends more time on his back than meek mill at a p diddy meeting, I have a good strategy but im too busy keeping zacks p** a** alive
Hey man, 2 or 3 weeks ago i finally got my platinum after more than 300 times retrying the bonds of friendship challenge... In the end it was cloud vs odin , both very little health left, he was almost staggered and right before he got staggered he did a couple of deadly attacks , i dont know how i dodged all that crazy shit but when i defeated him i literally jumped around and celebrated like i have scored the winning goal in the champions leaugue. I totally forgot to thank you properly for all your guids , because i was about to give up after the first legendary bout with cloud against the white terror i think. No other guide was usefull for me and think i speak for lots of people now , your guides are legend. After bonds friendship, i had one more to do: to be a hero, i followed every instruction you mentioned as precise as i could and i fucking won afrer first try. After that i only had to destroy some boxes with cait sith of course before i got my platinum. Finally something i could achieve without any guide hahah thanks a lot man !! You rock
Yeaaaah it’s finally my turn to say thank you ! Your videos are amazing, everything is well explained. I would never have platinum the game without them so thank you so much !! And for everyone who are watching this video and struggling, don’t give up ! I know it can be frustrating but try again after some rest, you can do it !
Again you knocked it out of the park and saved me so much miserable frustration. I can’t thank you enough for these guides man, I’m a bit older now and don’t have as much time to beat my head against a wall so I gotta say I truly appreciate all your effort and the time it took to make this Owe my plat to you, you have my eternal gratitude 🙏
Optinoob, i did it buddy! after trying other builds I cycled back to yours four days ago... Got all the way to Odin and paused it. I left it there all week, and tonight decided to give it one more go. After following the first couple steps of your vid, I branched out and casted Reraise on Cloud and Zack, here is the kicker though, NONE OF US DIED! I had stopped using Magical Focus thinking that the loss in damage would not be too great, but putting it back on turned out to be the winning formula!!! Now I finally get to do the Sephiroth/Cloud legendary bout. Im so stoked. Stuck on that for over a month, feels like a great weight has been lifted! EDIT: I forgot to mention faith, I always cast something else instead, like haste or manawall, this time I casted faith and Odin could not keep up with the damage. Never straying from your strategies again. Though I only have one left, you have helped me get this platinum trophy immensely.
Thank you so much bro, this helped me a lot! I've always heard that this is the hardest challenge in the entire game, but following your guide it actually took me 3 attempts!
I've only got this and TBaH left, for combat sims, and the last two chapters on hard mode, until I get platinum. The trophy was at 1.1% when I started hunting, and it's taken me so long that a whole, additional percent of players have since beaten me to it. You have seriously helped me through so much of this game, and I can't thank you enough for all of your quality builds to deal with each challenge. Optimal efficiency, even for a noob. It's right there in your name lol. Thanks again for all of your help, so far
Took a break for a month after hard mode & came back on the 7th month and finally got the platinum today! Couldnt have done it without you. Cheers mate!
Just came to say thanks for all your videos, got me through the tough ones. Had this mostly figured out after watching another video. How you commentate makes all the difference though to really help clarify those little details. Your work is irreplaceable!
I write this comment as tears of joy stream down my face (figuratively). I've finally done it!!!! Thank you Opti for this guide! It's done finally!! I can't believe it. Easily the worst bout ever and even worse than Rulers! I can't even say how long it's taken me to get here! I will NEVER do this challenge again! Weiss was a cakewalk compared to this! Never ever ever again will I even attempt this challenge. I never wanna see Zack's face again. Thank you again Opti!! You're the man!! Sephiroth can wait. I need a drink lol
Omg finally did it. Not sure how though. At the last second he stopped Zack killed Cloud and then wanted to cast spatial distortion and my Zack had 1 atb left and came out of stop. I was able to cast revive on cloud, get my atb up then cast faith and do one last aeroga and it killed him....... This game is going to give me heart failure ! Thank you once again my friend.
Took me 2 days and many hair roots being pulled out, but i finally beat odin, using a limit to evade imprisonment since zack was already dead. Your guides are a life and sanity saver.
Hey man! As someone who spent the past week grinding the final sims, just keep at it :) Agree with your RNG assessment. Of the bosses, the most "RNG susceptible" of them all are: 1. Quezacoatl (since it won't always do it's "free" pressured stance at the same time every fight - so you can shockingly see your hp drain just from random melees) 2. Ironclad (it's the swings man - cast barrier if you suck at dodging like me) 3. Alexander (his pew pew stuff sequence is very random, but know that his homing blue pew pew, ground hadoukens, and even the seismic shockwave are all counterfire-able). 4. Mindflayer (more for the Eldritch Horror. Have magic shield up) 5. Bahamut (sort of, I still haven't managed to figure out when he changes modes). Surprisingly, Odin becomes predictable with time. ❤
Yeah…. I definitely wouldn’t call this the “easy method.” Like, it’s a SOLID guide. But this is by no means easy… I’m going on 2 days with this method… made it to Odin once…. Bahumut 3x… sometimes IronClad f#%^s me… sometimes Quez… sometimes Flayer…. God help us.
@@Bodhinaut hands down this is the best guide, again shout out to Opti, Ive looked at every other "easy" guide but i cant even get past titan, but this one gets me to ODIN, just cant get it done,
THANK YOU OPTINOOB!!!! Was honestly stuck on Odin for so long... but i kept at it with your guide... Thank you, definitely one of the hardest FF7 challenges out
Friend! Thanks to you I was able to get the trophy from the Chadley challenges. I'm coming from The Seventh Heal. I don't usually comment much, but this deserves recognition for the great help you've given us. You've earned yourself a subscriber, a friend, even a blood donor if you want! Thanks!
@@aidiruikkiduring the normal fight I've seen his Zantetsukan go off VERY early, after only 2 or 3 hits. But this challenge one never did that for me. Parrying with Prime mode is absolutely key to this fight. If you can do it consistently he will stagger super fast and then just blow him away. I'd also recommend holding onto your limit break for the end. It's a great panic button if you're getting pressure while Zach is napping.
Just completed this thanks this to this guide. Few key takeaways for those who still might be struggling: 1. Make sure materia is maxed so that you can 1 shot alexanders arms and bahamuts wings. Furthermore, max magic focus level 5 is definitely worth it. I suggest doing the second battle in the gold saucer battle square to farm exp on the thugs to max it out. It'll kill these bosses almost twice as fast compared to a level 3 magic focus. 2. The only real challenge is bahamut and odin. Make sure to rewatch the boss fights for those guys in this video at least 3 times to fully understand them. 3. For odin, deal as much damage as humanly possible early on, that way if zach faints in the later half of the fight he is more than likely only going to be 1 or 2 aerogas away from death after staggering him. Keep on trying, this is the last hurdle. Sephiroth and Cloud combat simulator is without a doubt 10x easier than this one, so if you can do this one the other one is going to be a piece of cake.
Your guides were super helpful. I finally finished this platinum. I saved my gameplay footage. It got ugly in round 6 and a bit sloppy on round 9 but my Odin fight was almost flawless. Thank you for your hard work Optinoob.
I just came here to subscribe and say THANK YOU FOR USING TACTICAL in these guide videos. The amount of content creators using the term "Guide" in their titles who input actions so quickly I have to slow down the video is beyond annoying. Thank you!
My dude, you are an absolute legend. Yes, this js intimidating as hell and it takes a coupe of tries, but believe it or not, it took me way loger to do brutal challenges 4 and 5. Thank you!!!
I can't believe it. I finally beat it after about 20 tries. I think was finally helped when I was about to quit was leaving this one alone for a bit and beating To Be a Hero first. The Sephiroth build is slightly easier and I think it helped me practice Bahamut and Odin for this one. Thank you so much Optinoob! Without your guides I would have lost my sanity for sure. I have honestly never been this turned off by a game's post game content before. It has really soured the entire game to me at this point. I loved Remake so much when it came out. It was the first Final Fantasy I ever played and got me hooked immediately. I was looking forward to Rebirth coming out for so long and was so excited. Now I can't help but feel disappointed at how much this post-game content made me hate this game. Hopefully when I replay it in about year and can ignore hard mode and the legendary/brutal simulators, I can go back to enjoying the game. But at this point I am so burnt out. Even though I've beaten it now, I truly hope they nerf these final challenges to some degree. It is not fun. It is insulting to the player to abuse their time and dedication like that. That's it, rant over. Thank you if you read this far. I really want to love the game. I WOULD love the game if the developers treated the players who want to 100% it with more respect.
Thank you for the guide. I managed to beat this challenge after maxing out my weapon level at 9. For those wondering what the difference in stats is, Optinoob's "Attack" at weapon level 8 is 287, at level 9 it is 297 (not a great difference) BUT "Magic Attack" increases from 468 to 499 which is indeed substantial. (All other stats of the Rune Blade remain the same)
For anyone struggling with this one with a level 8 weapon like I was, finish hard mode and do the Sephiroth and Cloud VR first to get to weapon level 9. After many failed attempts on this one before watching this tutorial, I followed the one for Sephy, completed it first time then completed this one on my second attempt with a fully levelled sword. Amazing work again mate. No idea how long this would have taken me without your videos. Finally got my platinum trophy.
I never finished the game in hard mode and I'm having trouble beating this challenge so I'll follow your advice and finish hard mode and get weapon level 9 first and then I'll try again. Alexander is kicking my ass almost every time, and the only few times I beat him the next monster killed me. Thank you.
Completed! 1st try. After training vs Odin and Bahamut for 1h in the simulations. Thank you so much for your guides!!! Beat almost them all on 1st try. Now onto hard mode lap, I don't think it'll be harder than this.
Finally someone with common sense to actually go practice the fights! Thankyou for not complaining making excuses about the game like 90% of the other comments.
I didnt need to practice because when I fought odin he killed me enough times to where I had his perfect block timing down. If anything bahamut gave me more trouble. I first tried odin
I don't think my comment went through, but the other day I finally beat this thanks to your guide! Thank you so much! To anyone who may be scouring the comments in search of extra tips (as I was), I have a few about Odin. He was always my run killer: - You can try opening with Manawall instead of Faith for that extra defense. - When Cloud is casting, switch to Zack and get a few hits in to build ATB. This'll help build more ATB faster, so you can also cast Faith (or Manawall), and any extra spells you might want, like Haste or Cures. - During Sleipnir's Furor, you can Prime Mode Guard instead of dodge. I felt like I wasn't building ATB fast enough, so I wanted to do this just for the extra boost. - When Odin does Charge, get out of the way! Even if you Prime Mode Guard, he'll keep trampling you and kill you. - If you're like me and didn't do enough damage for Odin to immediately cast Temporal Imprisonment, stay calm and continue with the basics. Wind 3 from Cloud and occasional hits from Zack. Save for Limit Break in case you need to make a quick escape from Temporal Imprisonment. (I heard that using the Synergy Move while one of them is frozen will free them? I never got to try it out myself though) - Don't forget about ATB Boost! I couldn't really keep track of when the cooldown had finished, but I was able to use it again for a quick Wind3. Best of luck!
My man, you helped me to finish all combat simulators! I even made Bond of Friendchip first try thanks to your help! I can't describe how thankful I am for your guides! Thank you so so much!
FINALLY GOT THE PLAT!! Already had an idea about this build from widya vello channel but didn't know about the fury buff mechanic until watching this guide. Made all the difference in the world. Thank you so much man lol
I FINALLY DONE IT!! My Odin run was scuffed but got through it, can’t thank you enough man, your guides are the reason for my platinum!! Wish you all the best man and thank you again!!!👌
Got my plat today mate, absolutely couldn't have done it without your guides. SUPER DUPER THANKS you're a freaking legend. Keep doing what you're doing bro!
I feel like I need a support group for this challenge!!!!!!!! I’m almost there, but damn this is tough! Some days, I get to Odin super fast! Today, I couldn’t even get to him lol! Tomorrow is a new day!
Again, great guide and I feel like you deserve the credit on these videos. Took about 5 attempts but its mostly because I never used Prime Mode and was not familiar with blocking/countering. My tips here are for Bahumat and Odin. Everyone else can be played relatively the same: Faith on Cloud, Cloud Prime Mode and Fury up. Aero3 when you can. Manawall Cloud with Zack. Rinse and repeat. These were my big notes from your guide outside specific details such as Kujata and Mindflayer For Bahumat, you saved your ATB almost exclusively for the wings. I did not realize this and kept scrambling to build up ATB when the wings were out. Transform seems to trigger three attacks regardless of the form but his wings will come out afterwards. Because I burned my ATB asap, there was one instance I forced Neo transformation earlier than expected. Your approach makes it much more consistent. Save ATB to burn wings, once preasured ATB to Aero3, then build back ATB to save for wings. Rinse and repeat. NEO eventually transformed and depending on pressure, your recommendation to block everything is the safest strat. Manawall prior For Odin, your explanation about Spatial Distortion to Temporal Imprisonment saved me so much headaches from my previous attempt. I didnt know how to manage this initially. Also, using limit break has a timing to dodge it properly. This may require practice. Also resist didn’t prevent it. Let Zack eat the imprisonment since Cloud can sustain damage when casting Aero3. Because of my lack of familiarity for blocking/countering in Prime Mode, I died a few times because of it. Resetting the block/counter is great for ATB. Doesnt involve much practice but this may be helpful for anyone else. You can reset based on sound. The counter audio will trigger, time will slightly slow down, and then you repress+hold R1. Especially in his later phases where there are multiple attacks, this is what made me defeat Odin. Thanks again, this was the last challenge I needed and have officially platinum trophied the game last night. I have completed all the play log and am only short of S-ranking the piano music sheets. Im terrible at rhythm games. Goodluck to everyone else!
@@tbrandy1405 Right! For the trophy but the completionist in me would love to S-Rank all but im terrible at these types of games. I was able to A-rank everything for trophy. After collecting the ****last music sheet*** .... I got a C-rank and not even going to try it any further
Finally got it ! Odin is such a pain... I added 1 level of difficulty: try doing while your cat switches the TV off in the middle of Odin fight at the few last hits, you know that moment you are so into it... "Wait did my console just went off or just the TV?? Why?? Pooh that cat !! 😺" Thanks for the video 🎉
Another amazing guide, thanks Opti! I'm sure most fellas here will buy you a round or 10 for your amazing guides. I think from this challenge it has made me learn the subtle mechanics of the bosses. You demonstrate your understanding of their mechanics and how to "easily" address and counter their attacks/defenses. Now just got TO be a Hero left and I'll plat :)
I never comment on videos. But I just had to on this one. I got my platinum about 2 weeks ago. I would never of gotten it without your amazing guides. You have been a life savior for me. I pretty sure I speak for everyone when I say that you helped us with our platinum trophy. Thank you! We look forward to your guides in part 3!
I’ve found every guide up to this point helpful. For whatever reason the bosses just do not behave at all like they do in your video. Even the first fight against titan I find that 25% of the time Zach doesn’t even have a full ATB bar to cast. I try and implement the basics of what you’ve shown when there’s a surprise twist- but the randomness of the boss move set right out of the gate sometimes makes it feel impossible. I’ll keep trying - and hopefully just get good.
Same for me.. Titan Strat works maybe 10% of the time, and none of the other have ever worked for me, and cloud runs out of mana for me despite having the exact setup
I beat this first try with your strat! It was very scary during Odin though...Zack and Cloud got separated by spatial distortion and Zack was alowly dying while Cloud was Stopped...luckily Zack survived long enough for Cloud to come back for the Aeroga kill. Thanks again!
Just wanted to say, your videos helped me get through all of these hellish post game combat simulator challenges (this one was my final one to do, and I got it last night with this guide, along with using all of your other guides for the Brutal and Legendary challenges), and you won a subscribe from me as a result - holy cow man you have been a blessing for my road to platinum. All I have left is my Hard Mode run and I've got it, which I'm going to fully utilize your videos for those to also do. Once again, thank you so much - you made all of this way more bearable with these builds and strategies!
Your guides are phenomenal and so accessible. It’s hard to prepare materia until you know what you’re up against and you don’t know what you’re up against until you’ve miserably slogged your way through the gauntlet. You’ve saved me so much agonising trial and error. I didn’t mind this one as much because Zack predetermines half the build, making you somewhat optimised.
I just physically cannot do this one. Thank you for the guides. You have got me further than i would have ever got. I reached Odin twice and Bahamut 3 times but this is in way too may attempts. If the chellenge would just tick itself i would walk away from it happily. its way too overtuned for an action RPG where variables are always different. Some rounds Titan is docile and you can do the strat, other times hes just an absolute menace, ive died in round 1 a few times. The bird in round two is the same issue. Rounds 3-8 i can get through ok. The 3 times i got to bahmut 1 time he felt easy and he laid off me a bit but it followed by Odin who just spammed cleave attacks and was 10 times more active than the odin in this video for example he was insane. The 2nd time i had zero MP because bahmut just would not die the round before. Its just different every single time. There has to be another way surely. I will do absolutely any cheese to get rid of this. Its not fun, its not enjoyable and who ever signed this off to make this version of the game needs to be shot. Like why 10 rounds? 5 rounds with the summons would have been okay, more chances to get the rounds your stuggling on.
I agree mate, its a bit too much isnt it. Just some extra tips, Round 1 is very consistent for me, if you're failing in that sometimes, its because you're just a little too slow at times. Round 2 is definitely a little RNG depending on what attacks the birdy does, though mostly 8/10 times it will work according to plan. With Bahamut and MP, you could use Zacks synergy earlier to get infinite MP, same with the Odin fight. Bahamut can sometimes activate Neodrive early, not sure exactly, think its related to damage done, wings clipped, pressured damaged etc, but if you're always ready to evade each mode the way I advise, that normally works out for me, but I do usually always have to adapt a little because he pretty much always does Neodrive at different moments. And for Odin, yea sometimes it can appear to go completely wrong from the start, you need to get good at being mega aggressive and being ready to dodge/counter each attack in between your own attacks as well, having a limit break ready to bypass Imprisonment is quite useful, counter in Prime Mode is good as well for building Limit Break and Stagger quicker. Its good to practise Bahamut and Odin in the summon fights on Full Might with only Cloud using the same build (but maybe put Empowerment on him as well for Faith).
@Optinooby yeah. Usually I'm a grinder on games like this but this is too much this one 😂 I'll find someone who's got it down eventually and just let them share play it 😂
I hate Titan so much. He gives me the most trouble every time I've tried it. Only once was I able to pressure him before Stop wore off. I try to dodge his attack just to get stun locked by his combo, somehow. Doesn't even look like he makes contact. I swap character to hopefully take the pressure off who he is targeting.. But he just continues to hammer away at them anyway even if I'm hitting him in the back. Odin, my problem with him I think is my own ability. I'm very bad at timing a block so he sweeps the floor with me. He is so aggressive at times (like Bahamut) that I simply can't keep up. I do not find these challenges fun, if there was some kind of check point at round 5 maybe that would be better.
@@CiarlaB yeah I agree. Or the shear fact there's only two of you. It's weird how two supersoldiers struggle doing this but yuffie and Aerith can destroy everything together. All the materia you've levelled up the entire game (171 hours for me) you can't use and equip on zack. So you've just got one character where the only guarenteed fight is Phoenix. Kujata is like Titan too sometimes I'll cast Faith on cloud, ATB boost and Prime, switch to cloud and he just goes mental changes to lighting starts juggling me in the air even though the hit box is way off and it's end of run. I had a perfect run yesterday up until Mindflayer and Zack at full health just died for standing in the lightning and the AI didn't block. I've tried taking Cloud in with revive but it doesn't work, once cloud has faith and prime and gets killed its difficult to get zacks ATB up to Arise cloud and get back to that position again while bahmut is just relentlessly smashing you. If it was Optional then great but they have gone and locked a Trophy behind it, and me personally I have now stopped playing the game, havent done Hard mode because I wanted this mopped up first. It isn't a challenge its intentional to get people like us frustrated with it and it's a poor poor decision by Square to do this to people
@@smythlife3373 It's ridiculously hard and RNG based, then to have to do 10 rounds while getting used to using new characters (Sephy, Zack). I still haven't done it; it is the last VR challenge I need to do but I had to put the controller down. It's so frustrating. I've started hard mode, I'm on Chapter 12, I'm putting off the Rufus fight which is why I started to do the VR challenges. Now I've been stuck on them for a week - I understand making it a challenge, it's end game, optional, and is needed for the platinum. But you can make something difficult and still make it fun. 10 round gauntlets, with two characters, against bosses/summons where many have 1-hit-Ko attacks, is not fun and is so time consuming. Nothing like getting to round 8, dying, and having to do it all again. This strategy is great, if you can get it off, and do enough damage. But it is also so dependent on what moves the enemy use. With Kujata I didn't even bother for Prime Mode because I needed ATBs as he just continuously tried to charge an element, so I had to be ready to cast magic all the time. I ended up getting Zack to put haste on Cloud because I couldn't get ATBs up before Kujata would try to get an element again. My Cloud did the same with Mindflayer, I think with the bird too, just stood in the lightning for no reason. With Mindflayer I'd attack with Cloud (after faith and Prime), then when it turned its attention to me I would swap to Zack. Mindflayer targets Zack, I'd go back to Cloud. If Zack got an ATB I'd cast Haste on Cloud. Might be the cowards way, but it worked. Helped learning that you can hide behind those rocks after his telekinesis attack. Bahamut seems to go into Neo Drive no matter what and then just decimates you, also sometimes he will only do like 2 attacks before charging particles again so leaves you trying to get ATBs up to break his wings. I know you can use Counter block, or whatever it is called, for his purple attacks (Block and press X) while controlling Cloud, I couldn't get the timing. I just suck at timing in general I think that is why I struggle on Odin. Sorry for rambling, these challenges just do my head in.
Yeah it’s kinda sad. The game is absolutely fantastic but these combat simulator challenges have been so far above anything else the series (dunno about 14, never played it) has come up with before. I only recall the Jump Rope in FF9 annoying me this much. Even Weiss in FF7 Intergrade wasn’t this bad because it was just him. My issue is the slog, the silly battles before the battle I usually want to practice; that just ends up infuriating me then I make some silly mistake and get even angrier at myself lol.
@@Calaverez I would equate these (particularly Rulers of the Outer Worlds) to the Savage level difficulty in the FF14 raids. Rulers is MAYBE the Ultimate level of difficulty? The major difference is that (assuming sync'd level), you can't really break any of 14's endgame fights with things like Brumal Form ATB cheese.
You probably get this a lot bruv, but these guides of yours are lifesavers. I appreciate the care and research that went into this. I could never spare the time to devise such a flawless strategy! Cheers mate
Thank you! I got stuck at Gi Nattak and couldn't do Rulers of the Outer World. With your guides i completed the whole game. I just beat this challenge and got the Platinum. I couldn't have done it without you. TYSM
I just gave up. I lost 4 times with Odin and that was enough for me. I completed everything (including the whole play log) in this stupid game and I just can't beat this one. It's exhausting starting from the beginning again and again. Still, you got me to round 9 man, thank you for your guides, you're the real MVP. Edit: just tried it one more time and got it. I guess I was very frustrated and wasn't playing correctly (RNG also doesn't help).
339 hours on this game still haven't completed it most of those hours are just me going afk tbh. I'm hurting my hand playing this game the amount of times I've banged on my desk after dying so many times. Just two more challenges then platinum I've had enough.
Thank you so much for these guides. Before I found you I couldn't even beat the White Terror with Cloud, and now I just finished off Bonds of Friendship.
I'm late to the party but I just got my platinum finally thanks to you and your guides. Some of the hardest challenges I've ever experienced as a gamer. Absolutely tremendous help. You sir have gained a sub. Hope to see you in Ff7 Part 3!
Materia: 0:44
Titan: 3:10
Hueyacoatl: 4:47
Phoenix: 6:37
Brineborn demon: 9:24
Kujata: 10:50
Ironclad: 14:00
Alexander: 15:53
Mindflayer: 17:40
Bahamut: 20:30
Odin: 24:31
Actual goat
Thanks mate, pinned ;)
@@Optinooby least i can do after all your guides bro 👏🏻
@@Optinoobycan you share play the last 2 for me.please 😢
@@Optinoobyplease can you help me with share play I can't do the last 2😢
I essentially typed out your video since I skipped around so much that I got impatient and frustrated. I hope this is helpful to other people who, like me, mess up at totally different parts each attempt lol. I still haven't cleared it, but I know I will because your guides have hard carried me through so much already. You're the best.
Build (0:44):
Gear > Rune Blade, Cetran Bracer, Genji Gloves
Materia row 1 > Magic Focus - Lightning and Wind, HP Absorb - Wind, Enemy Skill, ATB Boost, Phoenix
Materia row 2 > Elemental - Fire and Ice, MP Absorb - Wind, Swiftcast - Wind, Magic Up, First Strike
Weapon Skills > Magic Attack Power +20, ATB Charge Rate Up, Full-Power Magic, Enemy Parts Damage
* Make sure your stats are maxed in the folios. Remove synergy abilities to free up SP.
Notes:
When I say "[x] ATB," build to that number by attacking.
Build ATB for Zack: hold square until he's in the air after 3 strikes, quickly release square, then hold square again for 3 strikes coming down.
Build ATB for Cloud: spam square in Punisher mode, hold square in Prime mode.
Berserk: hold square for 2 hits in Punisher mode, 3 in Prime.
Fury: hold square for 4 hits in Prime mode. I will note when you NEED it to do enough damage. It's otherwise recommended but not required.
If I put a name in parentheses, don't switch, just give them the command.
Assume you need to be QUICK at the start of each round.
Titan (3:10):
1. Spam buttons to enter Tactical Mode ASAP
2. Zack > Stop
3. Cloud > ATB Boost > get close to Titan > Prime Mode > 2 ATB > Wind 3
5. Zack > 1 ATB during Wind > Stop
6. Cloud > 2 ATB > Wind 3
7. Zack > 1 ATB while Cloud casts
8. STAGGERED
9. Zack > Stop
10. Cloud > 2 ATB > Wind 3
Hueyacoatl (4:47):
1. Cloud > dodge > ATB Boost > Prime Mode > 2 ATB > Wind 3
2. Zack > 1 ATB > dodge Supercharged > Stop once Hueyacoatl lands
3. Cloud > 2 ATB > Wind 3
4. Zack > 2 ATB > dash away > Stop > Faith on Cloud
5. Cloud > 2 ATB > Wind 3
Phoenix (6:37):
1. Zack > Faith on Cloud
2. Cloud > Prime Mode > build ATB > Wind 2 on Flan when Phoenix uses Breath of Creation
3. Cloud > Build ATB > Wind 2 on Bomb
4. Cloud > 2 ATB (activate Fury) > Wind 2 on Grandhorn
5. Cloud > ATB Boost > Ice 3
6. Zack > 2 ATB while Cloud casts > Ice 3
7. STAGGERED
8. Cloud > 2 ATB > Ice 3
* Must beat before Staggered ends
Brineborn Demon (9:24):
1. QUICKLY switch to Cloud > dash towards 2 o'clock > ATB boost > Fire 3
2. (Zack) > Stop
3. Cloud > Punisher Mode > Berserk > 2 ATB > Fire 3
4. Zack > 1 ATB
5. Switch to Cloud
6. (Zack) > Faith on Cloud
7. STAGGERED
8. Cloud > Punisher Mode > Berserk > 2 ATB > Fire 3
Kujata (10:50):
1. Zack > Faith on Cloud
2. Cloud > dodge > ATB Boost > Prime Mode > build ATB (block attacks, dodge Ferocious Lion to avoid paralysis, dodge Thunderous Stomp)
3. Cloud > Wind 3 when Kujata tries to summon element
4. Cloud > continue 2 ATB > Wind 3 loop
* If Kujata changes element, use lv 3 spells of the element it's weak to 2x.
Ironclad (14:00):
1. Zack > Faith on Cloud
2. Cloud > ATB Boost > Prime Mode > circle behind Ironclad's right leg > 2 ATB > Wind 3
* Thunder is more effective, but Wind is better for its speed, healing, and MP neutrality.
* Dash behind and far away when he uses Condemned or Thanatosian Blade.
Alexander (15:53):
1. Zack > Faith on Cloud
2. Cloud > approach one arm > ATB Boost > Prime Mode > Fury > 2 ATB > Thunder 2 on each arm
3. Cloud > get behind Alexander > 2 ATB (Fury) > Wind 3 > repeat
* If he recovers from Staggered, he will recreate his arms. Beat him before that.
* Use R1 + X or O to use Counterfire on projectiles as Cloud.
Mindflayer (17:40):
1. Zack > Faith on Cloud
2. Cloud > ATB Boost > Prime Mode > Wind 3
* When Zack builds an ATB on his own, cast Manawall on Cloud to be safe.
* Dodge away from Astral Apprehension and Sinister Seizure.
* After Telekinesis, either interrupt Psychotic Break with Wind 3 or hide behind a rock.
Bahamut Arisen (20:30):
1. Zack > Faith on Cloud
2. Cloud > dash away > ATB Boost > Prime Mode > Counterfire (R1 + X or O) on projectiles > 2 ATB
3. Cloud (during Particle Charge) > Wind 2 on each wing > 2 ATB (Fury) > Wind 3
4. Cloud (after Transform) > hold block until Particle Charge > Wind 2 on each wing > 2 ATB (Fury) > Wind 3
5. Cloud > try to stagger with Wind 3 right before Neodrive's attacks begin
6. STAGGERED
7. Cloud > Wind 3 > 1 ATB > ATB Boost > Wind 3
* When he's holding 2 blades, Bahamut will focus on physical attacks.
* OPTIONAL: you can allow Crush Grip to catch Cloud use that time to build ATB on Zack so he can cast Manawall and Haste on Cloud.
* Make sure Faith is always up on Cloud.
Odin (24:31):
1. Zack > Faith on Cloud
2. Cloud > dodge away > ATB Boost > Prime Mode > 2 ATB > Wind 3
3. (Zack) > Manawall on Cloud
4. Cloud (during Sleipnir's Furor) > dodge away and then back in > Prime Mode > 2 ATB (earned mostly by blocking) > Wind 3 > 2 ATB > Wind 3 > build ATB until staggered
5. STAGGERED
6. Cloud > Wind 3 > 2 ATB > Wind 3
7. (Zack) > Manawall on Cloud when he builds up ATB
8. Cloud > 2 ATB > Wind 3 > 2 ATB > Wind 3
9. Zack (during Spatial Distortion) > attack until Temporal Imprisonment
10. Cloud > 2 ATB > Wind 3
* Try to complete step 4 before Pressured wears off.
* Dash away during Ring of Helheim.
* The only attack that won't be interrupted by Reprisal is a lv 3 spell.
GOOD LUCK!!
ETA: I DID IT within an hour or two of posting this hell yeah
Dawg you aren’t gonna believe this. But I was having SEVERE trouble with this. More so than rulers ngl. And I followed BOTH optinoob’s guides. Yet this one I couldn’t crack.
But using your comment with the strategy spelled out for me to read along as I played……..I did it after 3 more attempts. This comment is the reason I’m getting platinum. THANK YOU!!
(And to you too Optinoob, if you’re reading this!!)
Огромное спасибо!!
Your comment save me dude! For a inexplicable reason, read instead of watching the vídeo work better for me. One thing or two got out of control, but i managed to get past it. Thanks optinoob and your comment.
THANK YOU FOR THISSSSS
Odin kept kicking my ASS right at the finish line, but this comment along with the video really helped me through it, so thank you thank you
An extra tip you can add for the odin fight is to use a limit to avoid imprisonment. Otherwise, your typed out summary helped me with the other 9 fights.
This challenge utterly BROKE me, if it wasn't for you posting these, I'd still be stuck on the first Brutal challenge. You have been an absolute saviour in helping a lot of people obtain platinum and I am one of those - finally after 179 hours and literal tears.
Seriously. Thank you so much Opti - may your steel foreskin guide you
I never comment on videos. This man's guides are so f****n' amazing. THANK YOU! I've platinumed games like Demon's Souls (PS3 & PS5), Dark Souls 3, Sekiro, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring. I've beaten every boss in the Soulsborne series, and I can unequivocally say I would NOT have be able to beat these challenges as quickly as I did without your guides, Opti.
That being said these guides will give you the HOW of the challenges, but you have to fabricate the WHO. Pausing the game and following the guide got me through to about 15% on Odin on my first run. It then took me another 8 hours of retrying to finally beat it.
1) Be patient with yourself. Understand it will take time. Don't give up, but give yourself a break if you find yourself getting worse (it will happen and its okay.)
2) Learn and commit the first 9 fights to memory as soon as you can. It will help you with subsequent retries.
3) Use the Odin (Full Might) 1v1 with Cloud Combat Sim to practice the final phase without having to spend 11 mins to get there (and learn things like when Odin does Spatial Distortion, if there is cyberpunk effects on the floor, then get to the other side of the wall before it becomes impermeable or else you will take Damage over Time.)
4) Commit hard to your Prime Mode attack cycles and learn what damage you can take (that you will then heal up with your Aeroga), and what attacks you can afford to Prime Mode block-counter (underrated). Also, what attacks to quickly dodge out of (anything with a "/!\", Sleipnir's Furor, Charge).
5) YOU. GOT. THIS.
Opti gave you the map, but you have to condition yourself to get over the terrain. It will take time. It will be rewarding when you get there, and you WILL get there. You got this. Congratulations when you do, because you have earned it.
Well said mate ;)
Thank you I needed to hear this! I just finished to be a hero with optinoobs guide. And they got me through a few hard mode story fights. Just need this one to finally platinum it. Could’ve never done it without these guides.
Souls plats are easy. Try Ninja Gaiden 💀
Congrats to everyone who platinumed this game.
His guides have helped me beat ruler of the outer worlds plus the other legendary ones. Currently on this one with Zack.
"Yeah, me and Zack are no longer friends after this. I've had enough" 🤣
Haha I loved that line
Spend 15 minutes getting to Odin, die within 10 seconds of fighting Odin
This is ridiculous.
Odin is the goat also bahamut
lol just died the 10th time to Odin. This challenge is brutal, yet I’m enjoying the torture hope I beat it today!
@@nathanprentiss7578 u can do it , sephirot is very hard .
same here. then I went to fight just him (full power) and only with Cloud to learn how to block and dodge his attacks (blocking is better since it pressures him much faster in primal mode). I spent 10 minutes doing this and beat him the first time I fought him in Bonds of Friendship :D
A few days ago, I thought obtaining the platinum trophy was absolutely out of my reach, and tonight, I’ve just obtained it. And all thanks to you! Thank you for helping me appreciate that game even more !
How did you get through some of those tough musclehead hard fights? Did you follow a guide or just brute force through them?
Defeated in 2024, came back in 2025 to get it!
Thanks so much Opti. Your guides gave me motivation and definitely got me good at this game. I join the many people here in thanking you!
I did it, after TEN HOURS of trying I finally fucking did it last night. Opti, I'm telling you, I wanted to cry tears of joy. In over ten years of trophy hunting, I've never felt such agony trying to obtain Platinum - Bonds of Friendship is easily one of the hardest challenges I've ever conquered as a gamer. I can't even take all the credit though because I used your amazing guide, but even with that it was still excruciatingly difficult.
I cannot thank you enough for these outstanding guides, man. I did the first five Brutal challenges with my own build but I categorically refused to attempt Ruler of the Outer Worlds and the Legendary Bouts without a proper guide. Without you, I definitely would've given up on this Platinum, so I just subscribed to your Patreon to show my support.
Thanks buddy, appreciate that ;)
Congrats. Any tips ? To help us do his strategy even if we f ed up some steps, what do u think helped u the most in ur own experience with his strategy
@@aali4726 Thanks. Yes I do have a couple tips actually:
1. When Odin casts Spatial Distortion, make sure you're in the middle of the arena so that you can quickly move over to the non-electrifying side with your partner. Also, when he gets close to about a quarter health, switch to Zack because he's about to cast Temporal Imprisonment and start building up ATB to cast Manawall on Cloud, Healing, Haste, etc. If all those effects are already applied just try to damage and pressure him as much as possible before he subdues Zack. I cast Fira a couple times and surprisingly that pressured him quite a bit. Doing this will also take his attention off Cloud.
2. To speed things up with the Mindflayer, I recommend doing the synergy ability to pressure him. Obviously, all you gotta do is get to Synergy Level 3 which will happen naturally with Cloud but you gotta make sure to cast two additional ATB actions with Zack; whenever Cloud is casting Aeroga, simply switch to Zack to quickly build up one ATB. I suggest Manawall then Haste on Cloud. Now when he goes to do his next Psychotic Break, use the synergy ability to cancel the attack and pressure him - this'll speed up things up a lot.
Oh thanks alot man for the tips I'm excited to try ur way thanks alot n thanks for ur time n ur reply
I destroyed both of Alexander's arms right away and when I did I ran behind him like you did and he just did a 180° turn and shot me with something and killed me.....
This is the last trial I need to get the trophy. I’ve lost count how many times I’ve tried this - but thanks to this guide, I can get to round 9 (Bahamut) most of the time. Occasionally I can make it to round 10 (Odin), and on my last run I got Odin down to 30% health.
Slow but steady progress - hopefully one day soon I’ll be able to crack it
Thanks so much for this guide, it has been invaluable so far!
EDIT: And with that - after about 20 hours of dedication - it’s finally done! It was a clutch victory against Odin (thanks to Zack’s limit break at the last second before death). Now on to Temple of the Ancients, and the Platinum - full steam ahead!
Did you get it in the end? I am pretty much the same; most times I can get to Odin but then he gets me. Even when he casts spatial distortion, for some reason he doesn't go on to cast the temporal spell. What's going on? Which of his abilities other than the one mentioned in the video can't be blocked in prime mode please?
After a 172 hours of despair I became the planet's hope. Without your guides, I would have to dwell in despair and give up. Thankss🎉
I made cliff notes that helped me out so I didn't have to keep rewatching specific parts of the video. Thank you opti!!
R1
Z - Stop
C - ATB boost and prime
Z - 1 ATB then stop when pressured
C - Aero 3 x 3
R2
C - dash out of way
C - ATB boost and prime
C - Aero 3
Z - Stop after he lands
C - Aero 3
Z - Stop and faith
C - Aero 3
R3
Z - Faith
C - NO ATB
C - prime
C - Aero 2 on 3 enemies
C - ATB boost after grand horn
C - Ice 3 when pressured
Z - Ice 3
C - Ice 3
R4
C - dash away 2 o'clock
C - ATB boost Fire 3
Z - Stop when pressured
C - punisher spam square Fire 3
Z - 1 ATB faith
C - punisher spam square Fire 3
R5
Z - faith
C - dodge, ATB boost prime
C - Aero 3 when element summon
Get rid of wind or lightning crystals
R6
Z - faith
C - ATB boost prime
Stay behind
C - Aero 3 till dead
R7
Z - faith
C - Go to arm and ATB boost prime
C - get fury active Thunder 2 on each arm
C - get behind and do Aero 3 until dead
R8
Z - faith
Z - build up for Manawall
C - ATB boost prime
C - Aero 3 till dead
R9
Z - faith
C - dash away ATB boost prime
C - Use counterfire to block or normal mode block
When C is grabbed -
Z - manawall then haste on C
C - Aero 2 on each wing
C - Aero 3
C - hold block when he transforms
C - when partical charge, Aero 2 on each wing
C - play careful and Aero 3 till dead
R10
Z - faith
C - dodge ATB boost prime
C - be careful and block in prime mode
C - Aero 3
Z - Manawall
Z - switch to Z when odin does spectral distorting
@@ericb8689 Nice work here ;)
THANK YOU for doing this! I also work much faster off of notes, and you saved me a ton of effort! You helped me get the win just now just as much as Opti did.
This just helped me out today. I had been determined to not watch guides really.
After 20 titan fights, and 10 bahamut fights or so, I ended up here. The video helped a lot, but I still had trouble. These notes and my notes added to them got me to Odin finally.
I was really worried about Odin after all I read, but I absolutely destroyed him first try. I don't know how much was luck but I'll take it.
Thanks guys.
thank you so much, that simple act that makes all difference
Thank you both so much.❤
Putting Odin at the end of this challenge was absolutely brutal. I think someone hurt Nomura and he's taking it out on us. Thanks a bunch for helping me get through it and all the other brutal/legendary stuff.
Square did when they rejected Versus XIII and he's been taking it out on us since
The game director is Hamaguchi tho.
I blame Miyazaki setting the difficulty standard for RPGs
Time for all of us to Get Good.
I hate Odin so much. Most of the others I can get through with a bit of practice but Odin is just so incredibly frustrating.
@@Rhys-Lightning he also took it personal on us in kingdom hearts 3 on the remind dlc. Those fights are also brutal.
I’m literally crying right now right after beating bonds of friendship. Had trouble with it yesterday, always dying either on bahaumut or Odin. Woke up this morning and beat it on the first try after my cup of coffee. Thanks Optinoob!
@@krystalstardust1457 Sometimes just needs a good nights rest for ya brain to catch up and adapt when you've been at it nonstop ;)
Got all the way to Odin on the first try following this guide, lost to him and then got stuck on Titan and Hueyacoatl for a half dozen tries, then got back to Odin on the next try and beat him. Thank you for taking the time not only to explain what you're doing, but also why you're doing it and when -- truly makes it easy.
Got it on my first try - thanks for all your great guides on this game
appreciate that, thank you ;)
Just finished these last two legendary bouts last night using almost exactly the same strat. Found another youtuber doing the same build. However, they didn't use Stop on most of the enemies that were susceptible to it.
Anyways, I used your guides for most of the solo fights and I just wanted to say thanks. Also, I love how you explain your reasonings behind certain builds and go over the encounters step-by-step. Keep up the good work!
I’ve actually already completed this and Sephiroth, but I was still waiting for you to drop this guide. I’m so glad you even mentioned Weapon Level 9 lol, cause everyones posting there guides at level 10 and not mentioning it.
You’re the king of this game lol. Everyone on UA-cam wants to put “easy” on their guides, but your guides are comprehensive and truly the only easy guides, even the worst player can complete a challenge if they followed your guides. You earned the subscribe and likes.
Amazing guides always Optinoob 10/10
There is a weapon level 10?? So 9 isnt even the max level???
Yea, 'Easy' is clickbaited a lot nowadays, same with the term 'Walkthrough' which are basically Playthroughs not walk
@@Optinooby Oh, I thought you could get your weapon to 10! If it’s only 9 that makes sense then. I’m still working on my hard mode play through because of work, so I’m still at 8. 9 gives a significant damage boost to weapons tho when I look at the “Next level Upgrade”
100% agree! very clickbaity. Either way, we all know you’re always going to come through with amazing guides! Hope you blow up, you deserve it.
Agreed, beat this last night with another guide but giving you a like and comment cause your guides got me through every other brutal/legendary fight!
@@Optinooby Level 9 is max Weapon Level and Party Level 10 :)
Yeah a lot of the guides is just playthrough, Opti's are goated.
Dude you are legend. Thanks so much for your help. You have no idea how many times I’ve heard you say “straight away, cast faith. Yes, faith.”
Lol, sorry for sounding like a parrot
It's too bad we can't use steel foreskin on this fight
Like everyone else here I just want to thank you so much for the time and effort you put into these videos as without out them there is no way I would have got the Platinum! It is currently 01:28 in the morning and after a week of trying I have FINALLY beaten Odin! Just a couple of notes for any one who is struggling:
1) I replaced the Enemy Skill Materia with a HP PLUS Materia and by doing this it saved my ass on more than one occasion!
2) Apart from the first Fight against Titan do NOT spam the back buttons to open the Menu. This resulted more than once for me with Zacks first ATB bar not quite filling causing a delay which caused havoc on fights such as Alexander.
3) Do not give in! Just take breaks from it every now and again to relieve the stress levels!
4) Do not expect the fights to go exactly like they did in the videos. Some are very RNG based! Odin was kicking my ass all over the place but on the run I defeated him I did it even quicker than in the video!
5) All the fights are about trying to defeat the boss as quick as possible so you need to be aggressive else alot of them 'evolve' and start kicking your ass.
6) Remember that Aero Magic also heals you so even if it is not the time to do the magic attack use it if you are low on energy.
7) Bahmut - Block all his attacks, do not attack him you will build ATB from blocking and only use your magic when his 2 wings come out...disable them and try and get a level 3 aero on the body.
8) Odin - Stay in Prime mode and go at him from the start. Watch for when a move name comes above his head and then block. Blocking raises your ATB and his stagger. Use Level 3 Aero as soon as it becomes available.
9) When Cloud is casting magic switch to Zak and have a few cheeky hits against the enemy. This will build his ATB bar and allow him to use Cure and Barrier magic. Sometimes I would leave Zak with 2 full ATBS as a precaution so he could cast RAISE, Cure or Barrier Magic in a split second.
Good Luck all And thanks again Optinoob!
When Odin imprisons one of your characters, you can get out of it by using a synergy ability! I've literally just scraped by and managed to beat Odin first attempt! Great guide, just one more challenge to go!
If you limit break is up you can use your limit break just in case you have cloud selected when he does temporal imprisonment. I'm sure synergy ability will work too but I know limit break for sure will resit the stop.
Unreal guide. This took me so long and was so brutal I told my mates it wasn't worth it... This strat makes it look 100x easier!
I have the platinum now and it’s largely in thanks to these amazing videos. I appreciate how thorough each one I’ve watched has been for each of these VR missions.
I was able to beat this one and the Sephiroth one in 2 tries each with these builds. I made it to Odin both of my failed attempts and he rofl stomped me but the second try I played more aggressively and it was a breeze. Thanks a ton man keep up the great content I’ll definitely be watching more videos if you cover a game I’m playing.
Finally beat this to get the platinum. I can’t thank you enough for all you videos that got me here. After a week of trying this I finally got it. Before round 9 and 10 I paused and took 5 minutes to watch your fight and relax. Really helped.
I finally did it man, I got my platinum. Your guides got me through every one of these challenges. Never seen a better guide series, thank you for all you did, I couldn’t have done it without yah!
Bahamut always defeat me any tip ?
I 1 shot this pausing before each round and going step by step, these guides are absolutely incredible
I would never have gotten through these challenges without your videos. Thank you so much for putting your time into sharing all of this!
Harder than any fromsoftware game
Also not balanced what so ever, so there's that
@@rijusnar1994 And the tutorials suck! You cannot properly train with Zack or Sephiroth, this game was made by assholes.
@@vedomedo Breaking the 9999 limit should be an ability not an Accessory!
@@kingkazma3246 AGREED!!! I remember when reaching level 99 in a Final Fantasy game made you OP and you could breeze through any challenge with one hit kills. That was your reward for level grinding dozens of hours. This is a pain even at level 70 with mastered materia across the board!
@@alecaquino4306 Ah, the good ol days, when you could sit down and play a game, no Trophies, no DLC and no BS.
Looking forward to trying this one out, you make it look so easy! Really appreciate you breaking down the builds and strats while going through each round, most UA-camrs just smash out the challenge and do a basic breakdown! Keep up the good work man 👍
You are a LEGEND, sir!!! It took me about 15 or so attempts, but your guides are now the only ones I look for! Absolutely brilliant. Well-explained. And definitely doable! Keep up the great work, Optinoob! Now on to “To Be a Hero!”
I can't believe it, I finally got my platinum trophy after about 240 hours...all thanks to your guides!! I wouldnt have been able to platinum this game without your super detailed guides! Thank you so much for your dedication to the FF community!!
I don’t normally comment on videos but all your strats have kept me sane trying to complete all the brutal/legendary bouts. You have earned my sub and I thank you!!!
You are a golden God. These guides literally saved me so many hours of trial and error. Not ashamed that I used them. Awesome video my man; you have the honour of a true SOLDIER.
Bro, I was really about to give up on the platinum trophy because of this challenge. I even switched to playing other games. But then I stumbled upon your video, and it reignited my hope. Although it took quite a bit of time, I finally did it! I just got the platinum trophy! Thank you so much, your tutorial was incredibly detailed and effective!
Just wanted to give a huge thank you to you dude. I loved this game and if it weren’t for me platinuming Remake back in 2020 I wouldn’t have bother but man did your guides make things a breeze. I really only struggled with this one and The Seventh Seal. You’re a legend!
Finally managed to beat this challenge after many many hours stuck on Odin. Many times when I’d see Odin only having a little bit of health I’d keep rushing him instead of staying calm and kept dying lol. Thanks very much for this awesome guide.
There is NO better guide for a beginner play through. There just isn't. this build (which I saw another creator use) is OP for this bout and your tips are just 100/10 mate. A tip I have for anyone doing Odin in this bout is do not panic at any point. I did that and it cost me my first two tries. Calm and collected and doing what you do in this guide got me through. Bravo, mate. Bravo.
I want to say a HUGE thank you for helping me with this platinum. I watched all of your brutal and legendary combat simulator guides and it helped me so much. I wouldn’t have done it with you, you’re the man!! THANK YOU
Hey I don’t normally comment but your guides on rebirth have been absolutely phenomenal, some of the best guides in general I’ve ever seen. I can tell the time you put into them as I’ve seen others use similar strategies to the ones you present but yours are always more precise and foolproof no doubt from your knowledge of the game as well as the many attempts you’ve done off camera. Hope your channel explodes my friend, you deserve it!
Appreciate you taking the time to comment mate ;)
@@Optinoobyit's true, your videos are literally the best I've seen. The fight methods, precise narrating, nothing else like it from what I've found and watched. You definitely deserve more likes and subscribers
You are the only reason that I will be able to achieve this platinum. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK!!
Thank you all your videos helped me so much. All the other guides didn't work so I'm grateful to have found this. Keep up this quality work ❤
Wow bro, what an excellent way of showing how the build works. I was struggling with this challenge for 2 days with other guides. And did it first try with your vid.. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🔥🔥🔥
I have no issues with the difficulty level being high. It’s having to go through 9 rounds to reach the final round again and again that ruins it. Very, very poorly designed.
This and then also being forced to watch all of those "in-fight cutscenes" like Phoenix reviving Kujata.
To be fair, they mostly happen in the campaign (the final fight with Sephiroth is ridiculous with these), but still, come the fuck on Square, I don't need to watch the same animations over and over and over.
Agreeddd
that is what MAKES the difficulty high though so youre kinda contradicting yourself. If it was a single battle or had checkpoints after each fight then it would just be a single battle and it wouldnt have anywhere near the same level of difficulty. The whole point and the difficulty comes from the number of rounds.
edit: also, as mentioned in the video, there are other places in the game where you can fight any of these enemies in a single fight so if specific enemies are killing you every time then its possible and probably a good idea to go do that boss and only that boss until you understand it better. That's also why the rounds are the entire point, if it was just a single fight we already have those in the game elsewhere so it would be redundant.
@@SpydersBytedisagree! It’s bad design cuz u can’t save or edit your setup once u enter the challenge. You should be able to save after beating one opponent but lose the save once u continue like a checkpoint not really a saved game cuz if u want to take a break u have to pause sometimes people don’t have time to make this challenges they are too long.
@@batiseven I mean... the run took Opti less than 12 minutes, if you cant side aside 15 minutes to play then this probably isnt the game for you. Also its entirely possible to just use pause mid-battle and put the ps5 to sleep and you essentially have your checkpoint.
As far as editing setup goes, well thats just part of the challenge. Youre supposed to make a build that can defeat all 10 of these bosses, thats what makes it difficult, if you could tailor your build every single round it would be waayyyy easier. It seems like a lot of people miss the fact that these are the brutal, beyond-end-game challenges. They arent required to finish the game so if theyre painful for you then just dont do them, its not going to affect your experience of the game or the story.
was a nice journey, don’t have the mental to keep restarting to get to the last boss but cheers to those who complete this!
i said that too, but keep in mind we did too many other bullsh** challenges to let some crap like this keep us from getting platnium
@@ironknuckb I ended up completing it earlier yesterday after editing the class a little bit, only the sephiroth fight left but i still thank you for the encouragement 🤝
@@newbalance5250 I DID complete the sephiroth one... i still have yet to complete the zack one (on try 80), the sephiroth one is alot easier, jus know how to do sephiroths dash n spam tech (theres videos on that) but i cant do the zack one,, these monsters are too dayum OP and zacks such a lil b**** he spends more time on his back than meek mill at a p diddy meeting, I have a good strategy but im too busy keeping zacks p** a** alive
@@ironknuckb did you predict Diddy? 😅or is that news already 9 months old? It doesnt seem like its been that long.
Hey man, 2 or 3 weeks ago i finally got my platinum after more than 300 times retrying the bonds of friendship challenge... In the end it was cloud vs odin , both very little health left, he was almost staggered and right before he got staggered he did a couple of deadly attacks , i dont know how i dodged all that crazy shit but when i defeated him i literally jumped around and celebrated like i have scored the winning goal in the champions leaugue.
I totally forgot to thank you properly for all your guids , because i was about to give up after the first legendary bout with cloud against the white terror i think. No other guide was usefull for me and think i speak for lots of people now , your guides are legend.
After bonds friendship, i had one more to do: to be a hero, i followed every instruction you mentioned as precise as i could and i fucking won afrer first try.
After that i only had to destroy some boxes with cait sith of course before i got my platinum. Finally something i could achieve without any guide hahah thanks a lot man !! You rock
Yeaaaah it’s finally my turn to say thank you ! Your videos are amazing, everything is well explained. I would never have platinum the game without them so thank you so much !!
And for everyone who are watching this video and struggling, don’t give up ! I know it can be frustrating but try again after some rest, you can do it !
Again you knocked it out of the park and saved me so much miserable frustration. I can’t thank you enough for these guides man, I’m a bit older now and don’t have as much time to beat my head against a wall so I gotta say I truly appreciate all your effort and the time it took to make this
Owe my plat to you, you have my eternal gratitude 🙏
Always a pleasure ;).
After about 40 attempts, I did it! Your strategy was the best I've seen. But I think some bosses have a lot of RNG
Optinoob, i did it buddy! after trying other builds I cycled back to yours four days ago... Got all the way to Odin and paused it. I left it there all week, and tonight decided to give it one more go. After following the first couple steps of your vid, I branched out and casted Reraise on Cloud and Zack, here is the kicker though, NONE OF US DIED! I had stopped using Magical Focus thinking that the loss in damage would not be too great, but putting it back on turned out to be the winning formula!!! Now I finally get to do the Sephiroth/Cloud legendary bout. Im so stoked. Stuck on that for over a month, feels like a great weight has been lifted!
EDIT: I forgot to mention faith, I always cast something else instead, like haste or manawall, this time I casted faith and Odin could not keep up with the damage. Never straying from your strategies again. Though I only have one left, you have helped me get this platinum trophy immensely.
@@Ir1shman well done mate ;)
Thank you so much bro, this helped me a lot! I've always heard that this is the hardest challenge in the entire game, but following your guide it actually took me 3 attempts!
I've only got this and TBaH left, for combat sims, and the last two chapters on hard mode, until I get platinum. The trophy was at 1.1% when I started hunting, and it's taken me so long that a whole, additional percent of players have since beaten me to it. You have seriously helped me through so much of this game, and I can't thank you enough for all of your quality builds to deal with each challenge. Optimal efficiency, even for a noob. It's right there in your name lol. Thanks again for all of your help, so far
Took a break for a month after hard mode & came back on the 7th month and finally got the platinum today! Couldnt have done it without you. Cheers mate!
Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth plat complete on the 7th! MONTH!! Feels good!
Howwwwww it’s impossible 😢
Just came to say thanks for all your videos, got me through the tough ones. Had this mostly figured out after watching another video. How you commentate makes all the difference though to really help clarify those little details. Your work is irreplaceable!
I write this comment as tears of joy stream down my face (figuratively). I've finally done it!!!!
Thank you Opti for this guide! It's done finally!! I can't believe it. Easily the worst bout ever and even worse than Rulers! I can't even say how long it's taken me to get here!
I will NEVER do this challenge again! Weiss was a cakewalk compared to this! Never ever ever again will I even attempt this challenge. I never wanna see Zack's face again.
Thank you again Opti!! You're the man!!
Sephiroth can wait. I need a drink lol
Omg finally did it. Not sure how though. At the last second he stopped Zack killed Cloud and then wanted to cast spatial distortion and my Zack had 1 atb left and came out of stop. I was able to cast revive on cloud, get my atb up then cast faith and do one last aeroga and it killed him....... This game is going to give me heart failure ! Thank you once again my friend.
Took me 2 days and many hair roots being pulled out, but i finally beat odin, using a limit to evade imprisonment since zack was already dead. Your guides are a life and sanity saver.
The RNG in this strategy is insane. It's so dependent on the enemies behaving exactly the same way as they do in your run.
Hey man! As someone who spent the past week grinding the final sims, just keep at it :)
Agree with your RNG assessment. Of the bosses, the most "RNG susceptible" of them all are:
1. Quezacoatl (since it won't always do it's "free" pressured stance at the same time every fight - so you can shockingly see your hp drain just from random melees)
2. Ironclad (it's the swings man - cast barrier if you suck at dodging like me)
3. Alexander (his pew pew stuff sequence is very random, but know that his homing blue pew pew, ground hadoukens, and even the seismic shockwave are all counterfire-able).
4. Mindflayer (more for the Eldritch Horror. Have magic shield up)
5. Bahamut (sort of, I still haven't managed to figure out when he changes modes).
Surprisingly, Odin becomes predictable with time. ❤
Yeah…. I definitely wouldn’t call this the “easy method.” Like, it’s a SOLID guide. But this is by no means easy… I’m going on 2 days with this method… made it to Odin once…. Bahumut 3x… sometimes IronClad f#%^s me… sometimes Quez… sometimes Flayer…. God help us.
@@Bodhinaut hands down this is the best guide, again shout out to Opti, Ive looked at every other "easy" guide but i cant even get past titan, but this one gets me to ODIN, just cant get it done,
@@tbrandy1405 when he uses skills he leaves orbs I think he needs 5/6 to change for first time (bahamut)
@@Bodhinaut Did you end up beating it?
Man I never thought to stop Titan right from the get go! That’s brilliant.
The moment we’ve been waiting for 🥳
THANK YOU OPTINOOB!!!! Was honestly stuck on Odin for so long... but i kept at it with your guide... Thank you, definitely one of the hardest FF7 challenges out
Friend! Thanks to you I was able to get the trophy from the Chadley challenges. I'm coming from The Seventh Heal. I don't usually comment much, but this deserves recognition for the great help you've given us. You've earned yourself a subscriber, a friend, even a blood donor if you want! Thanks!
Everything went perfectly, but Odin felt very RNG heavy but finally beat him using this strat! Thank you!
why is odin being rng? he active zanten too early? i thought he only active that skill if he hit the player certain amount of times?
@@aidiruikkiduring the normal fight I've seen his Zantetsukan go off VERY early, after only 2 or 3 hits. But this challenge one never did that for me. Parrying with Prime mode is absolutely key to this fight. If you can do it consistently he will stagger super fast and then just blow him away. I'd also recommend holding onto your limit break for the end. It's a great panic button if you're getting pressure while Zach is napping.
@@justincluett530 Any chance Zantetsukan happens if you DO not hit him enough? I think you need to keep damaging him or it will happen.
I just finished the brutal challenges with your videos you got yourself a sub thanks for your guidance
Just completed this thanks this to this guide. Few key takeaways for those who still might be struggling:
1. Make sure materia is maxed so that you can 1 shot alexanders arms and bahamuts wings. Furthermore, max magic focus level 5 is definitely worth it. I suggest doing the second battle in the gold saucer battle square to farm exp on the thugs to max it out. It'll kill these bosses almost twice as fast compared to a level 3 magic focus.
2. The only real challenge is bahamut and odin. Make sure to rewatch the boss fights for those guys in this video at least 3 times to fully understand them.
3. For odin, deal as much damage as humanly possible early on, that way if zach faints in the later half of the fight he is more than likely only going to be 1 or 2 aerogas away from death after staggering him.
Keep on trying, this is the last hurdle. Sephiroth and Cloud combat simulator is without a doubt 10x easier than this one, so if you can do this one the other one is going to be a piece of cake.
Your guides were super helpful. I finally finished this platinum. I saved my gameplay footage. It got ugly in round 6 and a bit sloppy on round 9 but my Odin fight was almost flawless. Thank you for your hard work Optinoob.
I just came here to subscribe and say THANK YOU FOR USING TACTICAL in these guide videos. The amount of content creators using the term "Guide" in their titles who input actions so quickly I have to slow down the video is beyond annoying. Thank you!
My dude, you are an absolute legend. Yes, this js intimidating as hell and it takes a coupe of tries, but believe it or not, it took me way loger to do brutal challenges 4 and 5. Thank you!!!
I can't believe it. I finally beat it after about 20 tries. I think was finally helped when I was about to quit was leaving this one alone for a bit and beating To Be a Hero first. The Sephiroth build is slightly easier and I think it helped me practice Bahamut and Odin for this one. Thank you so much Optinoob! Without your guides I would have lost my sanity for sure.
I have honestly never been this turned off by a game's post game content before. It has really soured the entire game to me at this point. I loved Remake so much when it came out. It was the first Final Fantasy I ever played and got me hooked immediately. I was looking forward to Rebirth coming out for so long and was so excited. Now I can't help but feel disappointed at how much this post-game content made me hate this game. Hopefully when I replay it in about year and can ignore hard mode and the legendary/brutal simulators, I can go back to enjoying the game. But at this point I am so burnt out. Even though I've beaten it now, I truly hope they nerf these final challenges to some degree. It is not fun. It is insulting to the player to abuse their time and dedication like that.
That's it, rant over. Thank you if you read this far. I really want to love the game. I WOULD love the game if the developers treated the players who want to 100% it with more respect.
Today Odin killed me with maybe 2% HP left :D .... then I took my revenge and finally did this challenge!
first time i got to odin the same thing happened to me. after 4 more hours i got the revenge lol
Yo I cannot thank you enough! These guides are the only way I can finish these ridiculous ass challenges. Seriously appreciate it bro! You Rock!
Thank you for the guide. I managed to beat this challenge after maxing out my weapon level at 9. For those wondering what the difference in stats is, Optinoob's "Attack" at weapon level 8 is 287, at level 9 it is 297 (not a great difference) BUT "Magic Attack" increases from 468 to 499 which is indeed substantial. (All other stats of the Rune Blade remain the same)
For anyone struggling with this one with a level 8 weapon like I was, finish hard mode and do the Sephiroth and Cloud VR first to get to weapon level 9. After many failed attempts on this one before watching this tutorial, I followed the one for Sephy, completed it first time then completed this one on my second attempt with a fully levelled sword.
Amazing work again mate. No idea how long this would have taken me without your videos. Finally got my platinum trophy.
I never finished the game in hard mode and I'm having trouble beating this challenge so I'll follow your advice and finish hard mode and get weapon level 9 first and then I'll try again. Alexander is kicking my ass almost every time, and the only few times I beat him the next monster killed me. Thank you.
Completed! 1st try. After training vs Odin and Bahamut for 1h in the simulations.
Thank you so much for your guides!!! Beat almost them all on 1st try. Now onto hard mode lap, I don't think it'll be harder than this.
Finally someone with common sense to actually go practice the fights!
Thankyou for not complaining making excuses about the game like 90% of the other comments.
I didnt need to practice because when I fought odin he killed me enough times to where I had his perfect block timing down. If anything bahamut gave me more trouble. I first tried odin
I don't think my comment went through, but the other day I finally beat this thanks to your guide! Thank you so much!
To anyone who may be scouring the comments in search of extra tips (as I was), I have a few about Odin. He was always my run killer:
- You can try opening with Manawall instead of Faith for that extra defense.
- When Cloud is casting, switch to Zack and get a few hits in to build ATB. This'll help build more ATB faster, so you can also cast Faith (or Manawall), and any extra spells you might want, like Haste or Cures.
- During Sleipnir's Furor, you can Prime Mode Guard instead of dodge. I felt like I wasn't building ATB fast enough, so I wanted to do this just for the extra boost.
- When Odin does Charge, get out of the way! Even if you Prime Mode Guard, he'll keep trampling you and kill you.
- If you're like me and didn't do enough damage for Odin to immediately cast Temporal Imprisonment, stay calm and continue with the basics. Wind 3 from Cloud and occasional hits from Zack. Save for Limit Break in case you need to make a quick escape from Temporal Imprisonment. (I heard that using the Synergy Move while one of them is frozen will free them? I never got to try it out myself though)
- Don't forget about ATB Boost! I couldn't really keep track of when the cooldown had finished, but I was able to use it again for a quick Wind3.
Best of luck!
@@Drakizora thanks for the posting the tips mate ;)
My man, you helped me to finish all combat simulators! I even made Bond of Friendchip first try thanks to your help! I can't describe how thankful I am for your guides! Thank you so so much!
FINALLY GOT THE PLAT!! Already had an idea about this build from widya vello channel but didn't know about the fury buff mechanic until watching this guide. Made all the difference in the world. Thank you so much man lol
omg it's finally here!!! platinum percentage for this game is about to skyrocket!!!
I FINALLY DONE IT!! My Odin run was scuffed but got through it, can’t thank you enough man, your guides are the reason for my platinum!! Wish you all the best man and thank you again!!!👌
Got my plat today, thanks so much!
Got my plat today mate, absolutely couldn't have done it without your guides. SUPER DUPER THANKS you're a freaking legend. Keep doing what you're doing bro!
I feel like I need a support group for this challenge!!!!!!!! I’m almost there, but damn this is tough! Some days, I get to Odin super fast! Today, I couldn’t even get to him lol! Tomorrow is a new day!
Are you using this strat? I beat this with a way worse set up
@ I beat it using this strat last month.
Again, great guide and I feel like you deserve the credit on these videos. Took about 5 attempts but its mostly because I never used Prime Mode and was not familiar with blocking/countering.
My tips here are for Bahumat and Odin. Everyone else can be played relatively the same: Faith on Cloud, Cloud Prime Mode and Fury up. Aero3 when you can. Manawall Cloud with Zack. Rinse and repeat. These were my big notes from your guide outside specific details such as Kujata and Mindflayer
For Bahumat, you saved your ATB almost exclusively for the wings. I did not realize this and kept scrambling to build up ATB when the wings were out. Transform seems to trigger three attacks regardless of the form but his wings will come out afterwards. Because I burned my ATB asap, there was one instance I forced Neo transformation earlier than expected. Your approach makes it much more consistent. Save ATB to burn wings, once preasured ATB to Aero3, then build back ATB to save for wings. Rinse and repeat. NEO eventually transformed and depending on pressure, your recommendation to block everything is the safest strat. Manawall prior
For Odin, your explanation about Spatial Distortion to Temporal Imprisonment saved me so much headaches from my previous attempt. I didnt know how to manage this initially. Also, using limit break has a timing to dodge it properly. This may require practice. Also resist didn’t prevent it. Let Zack eat the imprisonment since Cloud can sustain damage when casting Aero3. Because of my lack of familiarity for blocking/countering in Prime Mode, I died a few times because of it. Resetting the block/counter is great for ATB. Doesnt involve much practice but this may be helpful for anyone else. You can reset based on sound. The counter audio will trigger, time will slightly slow down, and then you repress+hold R1. Especially in his later phases where there are multiple attacks, this is what made me defeat Odin.
Thanks again, this was the last challenge I needed and have officially platinum trophied the game last night. I have completed all the play log and am only short of S-ranking the piano music sheets. Im terrible at rhythm games. Goodluck to everyone else!
Hi! You just need A rank for the piano sheets for the trophy :)
@@tbrandy1405 Right! For the trophy but the completionist in me would love to S-Rank all but im terrible at these types of games. I was able to A-rank everything for trophy. After collecting the ****last music sheet*** .... I got a C-rank and not even going to try it any further
Finally got it ! Odin is such a pain... I added 1 level of difficulty: try doing while your cat switches the TV off in the middle of Odin fight at the few last hits, you know that moment you are so into it... "Wait did my console just went off or just the TV?? Why?? Pooh that cat !! 😺"
Thanks for the video 🎉
Another amazing guide, thanks Opti! I'm sure most fellas here will buy you a round or 10 for your amazing guides.
I think from this challenge it has made me learn the subtle mechanics of the bosses.
You demonstrate your understanding of their mechanics and how to "easily" address and counter their attacks/defenses.
Now just got TO be a Hero left and I'll plat :)
I never comment on videos. But I just had to on this one. I got my platinum about 2 weeks ago. I would never of gotten it without your amazing guides. You have been a life savior for me. I pretty sure I speak for everyone when I say that you helped us with our platinum trophy. Thank you! We look forward to your guides in part 3!
I’ve found every guide up to this point helpful. For whatever reason the bosses just do not behave at all like they do in your video. Even the first fight against titan I find that 25% of the time Zach doesn’t even have a full ATB bar to cast.
I try and implement the basics of what you’ve shown when there’s a surprise twist- but the randomness of the boss move set right out of the gate sometimes makes it feel impossible.
I’ll keep trying - and hopefully just get good.
Same for me.. Titan Strat works maybe 10% of the time, and none of the other have ever worked for me, and cloud runs out of mana for me despite having the exact setup
I'm still struggling immensely, but imagine my embarrassment when I realized I put up absorb twice by accident. That explains the mp issues 😅
2 hours before the Stellar Blade release I reached platinum thanks. Thank you bro 💪
I beat this first try with your strat! It was very scary during Odin though...Zack and Cloud got separated by spatial distortion and Zack was alowly dying while Cloud was Stopped...luckily Zack survived long enough for Cloud to come back for the Aeroga kill. Thanks again!
This happened to me with Sephiroth and at the very last second before he used his ultimate I was able to let of Octoslash and nab the win.
Just wanted to say, your videos helped me get through all of these hellish post game combat simulator challenges (this one was my final one to do, and I got it last night with this guide, along with using all of your other guides for the Brutal and Legendary challenges), and you won a subscribe from me as a result - holy cow man you have been a blessing for my road to platinum. All I have left is my Hard Mode run and I've got it, which I'm going to fully utilize your videos for those to also do. Once again, thank you so much - you made all of this way more bearable with these builds and strategies!
Your guides are phenomenal and so accessible. It’s hard to prepare materia until you know what you’re up against and you don’t know what you’re up against until you’ve miserably slogged your way through the gauntlet. You’ve saved me so much agonising trial and error.
I didn’t mind this one as much because Zack predetermines half the build, making you somewhat optimised.
I just physically cannot do this one. Thank you for the guides. You have got me further than i would have ever got. I reached Odin twice and Bahamut 3 times but this is in way too may attempts. If the chellenge would just tick itself i would walk away from it happily.
its way too overtuned for an action RPG where variables are always different. Some rounds Titan is docile and you can do the strat, other times hes just an absolute menace, ive died in round 1 a few times. The bird in round two is the same issue. Rounds 3-8 i can get through ok. The 3 times i got to bahmut 1 time he felt easy and he laid off me a bit but it followed by Odin who just spammed cleave attacks and was 10 times more active than the odin in this video for example he was insane. The 2nd time i had zero MP because bahmut just would not die the round before. Its just different every single time. There has to be another way surely. I will do absolutely any cheese to get rid of this. Its not fun, its not enjoyable and who ever signed this off to make this version of the game needs to be shot. Like why 10 rounds? 5 rounds with the summons would have been okay, more chances to get the rounds your stuggling on.
I agree mate, its a bit too much isnt it.
Just some extra tips, Round 1 is very consistent for me, if you're failing in that sometimes, its because you're just a little too slow at times. Round 2 is definitely a little RNG depending on what attacks the birdy does, though mostly 8/10 times it will work according to plan. With Bahamut and MP, you could use Zacks synergy earlier to get infinite MP, same with the Odin fight. Bahamut can sometimes activate Neodrive early, not sure exactly, think its related to damage done, wings clipped, pressured damaged etc, but if you're always ready to evade each mode the way I advise, that normally works out for me, but I do usually always have to adapt a little because he pretty much always does Neodrive at different moments. And for Odin, yea sometimes it can appear to go completely wrong from the start, you need to get good at being mega aggressive and being ready to dodge/counter each attack in between your own attacks as well, having a limit break ready to bypass Imprisonment is quite useful, counter in Prime Mode is good as well for building Limit Break and Stagger quicker.
Its good to practise Bahamut and Odin in the summon fights on Full Might with only Cloud using the same build (but maybe put Empowerment on him as well for Faith).
@Optinooby yeah. Usually I'm a grinder on games like this but this is too much this one 😂 I'll find someone who's got it down eventually and just let them share play it 😂
I hate Titan so much. He gives me the most trouble every time I've tried it. Only once was I able to pressure him before Stop wore off. I try to dodge his attack just to get stun locked by his combo, somehow. Doesn't even look like he makes contact. I swap character to hopefully take the pressure off who he is targeting.. But he just continues to hammer away at them anyway even if I'm hitting him in the back.
Odin, my problem with him I think is my own ability. I'm very bad at timing a block so he sweeps the floor with me. He is so aggressive at times (like Bahamut) that I simply can't keep up. I do not find these challenges fun, if there was some kind of check point at round 5 maybe that would be better.
@@CiarlaB yeah I agree. Or the shear fact there's only two of you. It's weird how two supersoldiers struggle doing this but yuffie and Aerith can destroy everything together. All the materia you've levelled up the entire game (171 hours for me) you can't use and equip on zack. So you've just got one character where the only guarenteed fight is Phoenix. Kujata is like Titan too sometimes I'll cast Faith on cloud, ATB boost and Prime, switch to cloud and he just goes mental changes to lighting starts juggling me in the air even though the hit box is way off and it's end of run. I had a perfect run yesterday up until Mindflayer and Zack at full health just died for standing in the lightning and the AI didn't block. I've tried taking Cloud in with revive but it doesn't work, once cloud has faith and prime and gets killed its difficult to get zacks ATB up to Arise cloud and get back to that position again while bahmut is just relentlessly smashing you. If it was Optional then great but they have gone and locked a Trophy behind it, and me personally I have now stopped playing the game, havent done Hard mode because I wanted this mopped up first. It isn't a challenge its intentional to get people like us frustrated with it and it's a poor poor decision by Square to do this to people
@@smythlife3373 It's ridiculously hard and RNG based, then to have to do 10 rounds while getting used to using new characters (Sephy, Zack). I still haven't done it; it is the last VR challenge I need to do but I had to put the controller down. It's so frustrating. I've started hard mode, I'm on Chapter 12, I'm putting off the Rufus fight which is why I started to do the VR challenges. Now I've been stuck on them for a week - I understand making it a challenge, it's end game, optional, and is needed for the platinum. But you can make something difficult and still make it fun. 10 round gauntlets, with two characters, against bosses/summons where many have 1-hit-Ko attacks, is not fun and is so time consuming. Nothing like getting to round 8, dying, and having to do it all again.
This strategy is great, if you can get it off, and do enough damage. But it is also so dependent on what moves the enemy use. With Kujata I didn't even bother for Prime Mode because I needed ATBs as he just continuously tried to charge an element, so I had to be ready to cast magic all the time. I ended up getting Zack to put haste on Cloud because I couldn't get ATBs up before Kujata would try to get an element again.
My Cloud did the same with Mindflayer, I think with the bird too, just stood in the lightning for no reason. With Mindflayer I'd attack with Cloud (after faith and Prime), then when it turned its attention to me I would swap to Zack. Mindflayer targets Zack, I'd go back to Cloud. If Zack got an ATB I'd cast Haste on Cloud. Might be the cowards way, but it worked. Helped learning that you can hide behind those rocks after his telekinesis attack.
Bahamut seems to go into Neo Drive no matter what and then just decimates you, also sometimes he will only do like 2 attacks before charging particles again so leaves you trying to get ATBs up to break his wings. I know you can use Counter block, or whatever it is called, for his purple attacks (Block and press X) while controlling Cloud, I couldn't get the timing. I just suck at timing in general I think that is why I struggle on Odin.
Sorry for rambling, these challenges just do my head in.
These combat simulator’s have made me hate this game.
Yeah it’s kinda sad. The game is absolutely fantastic but these combat simulator challenges have been so far above anything else the series (dunno about 14, never played it) has come up with before. I only recall the Jump Rope in FF9 annoying me this much. Even Weiss in FF7 Intergrade wasn’t this bad because it was just him. My issue is the slog, the silly battles before the battle I usually want to practice; that just ends up infuriating me then I make some silly mistake and get even angrier at myself lol.
@@Calaverez I would equate these (particularly Rulers of the Outer Worlds) to the Savage level difficulty in the FF14 raids. Rulers is MAYBE the Ultimate level of difficulty? The major difference is that (assuming sync'd level), you can't really break any of 14's endgame fights with things like Brumal Form ATB cheese.
Sounds like a skill issue
@mgsxmike the guy that says that hasn't completed it.
@@mgsxmike sure buddy
You’re the goat man. One fight to go.
You probably get this a lot bruv, but these guides of yours are lifesavers. I appreciate the care and research that went into this. I could never spare the time to devise such a flawless strategy! Cheers mate
Thank you! I got stuck at Gi Nattak and couldn't do Rulers of the Outer World. With your guides i completed the whole game. I just beat this challenge and got the Platinum. I couldn't have done it without you. TYSM
I just gave up. I lost 4 times with Odin and that was enough for me. I completed everything (including the whole play log) in this stupid game and I just can't beat this one. It's exhausting starting from the beginning again and again. Still, you got me to round 9 man, thank you for your guides, you're the real MVP.
Edit: just tried it one more time and got it. I guess I was very frustrated and wasn't playing correctly (RNG also doesn't help).
339 hours on this game still haven't completed it most of those hours are just me going afk tbh. I'm hurting my hand playing this game the amount of times I've banged on my desk after dying so many times. Just two more challenges then platinum I've had enough.
Thank you so much for these guides. Before I found you I couldn't even beat the White Terror with Cloud, and now I just finished off Bonds of Friendship.
I'm late to the party but I just got my platinum finally thanks to you and your guides. Some of the hardest challenges I've ever experienced as a gamer. Absolutely tremendous help. You sir have gained a sub. Hope to see you in Ff7 Part 3!
Literally could not have gotten plat on this game without you. Thanks a ton!