Michael is okay with you being a smart person and is pleased to just be himself. Derek has to be the smartest in the room and he will do everything he can to make sure you know he's brilliant.
@@kayakMike1000 not reading the description or even just looking at the linked full video, and jumping straight to the negative conclusions. You seem nice.
For those of you who don't know how this works: The second time he lets only one side go before the other one, this causes the ring to flip end-over-end, that makes the side that is released first to fall in between the two sides of the chain. This turns the chain over one time and causes it to latch on like you're seeing at the end. The first time he releases both sides together at the same time.
jup, thats it. when viewing the vid with 0.25x speed you can see that derek moves his thumb on the last drop differently while on the first two drops both his index finger and his thumb spread simultaneously.
You can tell he made his fingers wider so both sides were touching the ring and the chain. I believe it's got more to do with that than dropping it at an angle.
The physics of it is still very interesting. He didn't flick the ring to get it to rotate, only dropping one side first. That shouldn't be enough rotational force to completely flick the chain back on to itself and make a knot. Something about the chain's physics amplify that small rotation.
Not really a magic trick--it's a physics trick. it's attached with a girth hitch. The angle at which it's dropped allows the ring to pass through the chain loop and secure itself with a hitch
@@nelinno04 You could say that about ALL magic tricks. What makes it a magic trick is not the particular method/mechanis, but that it's deception for entertainment purposes.
I used to love doing this magic trick when I was a kid. *If I remember correctly, you tilt it when dropping so that the weight of the ring causes it to fall forward and loop within the chain.* I don’t know, I’m 35 and I did this trick when I was 10 so I could be totally wrong haha 😅
He cut a clip from a years old video. The real explanation is this: you let one side go early and that catapults into the chain sliding over itself and catching
This can be done if one side of the ring gains velocity before the other side does, it flips the ring a axis, which wraps the chain around the metal ring, which inturn makes it stick. He basically let go one side before the other and just made it rotate on a axis which made the chain wrap around the chain and lock itsf with the ring, which makes it stick.
What I'm noticing is that on the normal drops you just drop the ring flat but on the "trick drop" you let the ring drop in a way that, if it was gonna hit the table, it would have rotated 90 degrees and hit it sideways. I'm guessing this motion creates some sort of whipping action that causes the chain to entangle like that
The ring rotates, creating a twist in the chain that tightens into a loop. It helped to pause right after the ring release to see the ring is rotating perpendicular to the plane made by the two straight pieces of chain.
It's damn easy to understand. In the first case you hold the chain in the center of the ring such that it doesn't touch each other, so the ring comes down straight In the last case you have held the ring such that it is slightly pressing against the chain. This develops normal reaction and friction since surfaces are in contact. So the ring gets tilted and becomes vertical as it falls thus it gets tangled in the chain.
In the first time, he didn’t flip the ring (at least not hard enough that cause the ring to turn over twice). In the second time, he turns the ring using his thumb and forefinger with certain amount of torque, so that the ring turns over twice or more in the loophole of the chain, creating a knot between the chain and the loop. (You can experiment and verify it at home :))
Based on the height off the table the chain is upon the dropping of the ring, if it is hanging less than half the height of the rings height viola it will deflect upon hitting table at any angle and snare the chain at its center with one flip
What happens so fast is that the ring flips due to the drag the chain has on the ring. The chain ⛓️ bends upward from the drag, the drag flips the ring, and the ring flips over the part of the chain that bent upwards causes in to lock. The only thing I can think of.
He made a video explaining this years ago. He drops the ring with the chain rubbing the ring asymetrically which drags it and causes it to whip around and knot itself around the ring when it reaches the bottom
The ring falls through the loop made by the chain. This trick only works if the plane of the ring is close to parallel with the direction of the chain.
*One Ring to rule them all. One Ring to find them,* *One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them* *In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.* The looped chain and ring looks awfully familiar to Frodo's Ringchain
Opens the upper hand so there is friction on the edges of the ring making the edges of the loop come together, this then has a whip effect through the chain to the end and it knots.
Ooh, I used to love doing that! I one time recorded it in slow motion. Also, for anyone wondering, you let it fall from your pointer finger first so that it flips upside down since your thumb is supporting it from the back
My guess: In the first example you dropped the ring so that it falls even and flat. This method does not interact with the chain very much since the disturbance from the ring on the chain is equal on both sides. In the second example, you let the side of the ring facing you fall first so that it falls at an angle. This angle allows the lower half of the ring to 'push' the chain whilst the upper half 'pulls' the chain. When the chain nears the bottom, there is no node for the wave created to rotate about, and since the chain is less dense than the ring, it can move at a faster rate than the ring is falling, so it flicks up, wraps around the ring and catches before the ring has left the chain, thus, suspending the ring.
The neat thing about getting old is watching something like this and realizing you've seen it before, and had it explained before.... and you forget how it's done.....
He spun it with his fingers as he dropped it. That's why he had to reposition it in his fingers before he did it the last time, to make sure he was holding it correctly, in order to give it a flick as he dropped it and make it flip on the way down.
You let the ring roll off your thumb instead of releasing from both sides at once. It causes the ring to flip and loop the chain around it in the process.
The last time, you put the loop down half the chain, making it look like you were simply touching it to your finger on top to stabilize it or to get a better grip of it.
Nice trick, you do not need to think just need to make sure that that ring switches to vertical orientation. This will create that effect by pushing the lower end of ring inside the chain loop, also it happens at the last moment when both chain and ring have 4 point of contacts
One side of the ring is Dropped before the other end, like this the ring flips in the air due to momentum and locks within the chain. A slow mo footage will clear it up easily 😊
The as the eadge of the ring slide across the chain it crates a ripple effect that just gets bigger as it moves along until it gets big enough and has enough energy to litterally expand the end of the loop and whip all the way around the entire ring and it happens so fast your eyes cant see it. You really could never guess that how it happens without a slowmo cam.
Guys. He's not (technically) leaving us hanging. It's a teaser to watch the full video (you can tap on it under the title). If you really want the answer, it's there
Derek Widens the two fingers holding a chain. In the first two try, he keeps the distance between the two fingers equal to or less than the diameter of the ring. and the last try he widens the fingers more than the diameter and the ring gets stuck.
"…do this all in one take, so you know that I'm not playing any tricks." He says, then proceeds to have part of his hand, the chain, and the metal ring cut out of the frame, thus rendering his statement moot. There's no longer a way for the viewer to know that no tricks were played. I'm not saying that tricks were played, just that his statement isn't true.
the starting 2 shots were done when the chain wasn't touching the ring and hence no friction, but 3rd shot is when he touches the ring with chain and then when he leaves, the friction makes it to loop around the ring
Everyone please. You don't need to force flip the ring with your finger. Just make the chain wider than the ring's diameter and gravity+inertia will do the rest.
the metal ring begins to tumble. the lighter chain is wrapped around the "closed loop" of the ring, while the chain on both sides has to - wrap around - the metal ring (the mass of the tumbling metal ring overcomes the chains static line inertia) the chain is forced along the circular curve of the metal ring as a guide, the chains on either side, swing around the outer circumferences of the metal ring) . . . as the mass of the metal ring tumble pulls the chain around the metal ring, the loop meets "it's own closed loop "behavior" as it tightens the looped chain now considered to be "wrapped" topologically around the metal ring. hmm its a pattern of "shortest distance" latch onto the torus of the metal ring.
If you made the chain a little wider with your fingers, as it falls it creates an outward momentum on the chain so when it reaches the end, it wraps around the ring holding it in place
By positioning the ring close to the top of the side of the thumb, rather than the middle of the thumb as in the first two drops, the release will cause the index finger side of the ring to drop, while the thumb side of the ring experiences enough resistance to cause the ring to spin from horizontal to vertical. The ring falling vertically rubs on the chain, causing it to open and flap below the ring, allowing the ring to fall into the open chain.
vsauce would never leave us on a cliff
True brother
And smarter everyday
Or would he?
Haha
This comment had me dying. Like literally dying. 911
One more of those cliffhangers and I will jump off a literal cliff
Too slow I'm already doing it
He made a video about this years ago
@@janhetjochlink?
@@LeSkinner The title of the video is “Three perplexing physics problems” and the thumbnail shows the ring and chain.
@@janhetjoch he literally took this short from that video too
vsauce doesn't do me dirty like this
Michael is okay with you being a smart person and is pleased to just be himself. Derek has to be the smartest in the room and he will do everything he can to make sure you know he's brilliant.
He literally put the link to the answer. You're just lazy enough not to watch the full explanation
@@kayakMike1000 not reading the description or even just looking at the linked full video, and jumping straight to the negative conclusions.
You seem nice.
Its true, I feel very unclean after being subjected to this
@@whyamiwastingmytimeonthis you're right. I am a very nice person.
Vsauce would never do this to us
copieeeed
He lets go of one side b4 the other
For those of you who don't know how this works:
The second time he lets only one side go before the other one, this causes the ring to flip end-over-end, that makes the side that is released first to fall in between the two sides of the chain. This turns the chain over one time and causes it to latch on like you're seeing at the end.
The first time he releases both sides together at the same time.
And the knot formed at the end is known as a "Ring Hitch" or "Tag Knot" is Ashley Book of Knots (ABOK) number 1859.
you are the captian
😊 thanks
yes, this.. Notice how he repositions the ring to the top of his thumb just before the third drop
I actually saw what he did and had figured it out.
I love how detailed that explanation was.
Yes, kinda magic 🤌🤣🤣
Yeah and every time I rewatch, it's as if he added even more details!
this is just shorts. pretty sure he has a full video for it.
It’s his job after all
Yes in discription 😂
I need Vsauce to explain this
I'm ending the cliffhanger. The ring rotates!
Vsauce wouldn't leave us hanging like this
Simply by letting one side go before the other. It will rotate on the fall down and flip the chain over.
jup, thats it. when viewing the vid with 0.25x speed you can see that derek moves his thumb on the last drop differently while on the first two drops both his index finger and his thumb spread simultaneously.
You can tell he made his fingers wider so both sides were touching the ring and the chain. I believe it's got more to do with that than dropping it at an angle.
The physics of it is still very interesting. He didn't flick the ring to get it to rotate, only dropping one side first. That shouldn't be enough rotational force to completely flick the chain back on to itself and make a knot. Something about the chain's physics amplify that small rotation.
Thank you for making me not have to click the other link to find out. Doing the lord's work
@@Alba_Longa just speculating but could it be like a mini Mould effect that imparts enough energy for it to flick around?
"So you know I am not doing any tricks"
*_proceeds to show magic trick_*
Not really a magic trick--it's a physics trick. it's attached with a girth hitch. The angle at which it's dropped allows the ring to pass through the chain loop and secure itself with a hitch
@@nelinno04 Yup. He puts a twist on the ring so it rotates as it falls. Play it on slow motion and you can see it happen.
It's physics you fool.
To be fair, that's what magicians do
@@nelinno04 You could say that about ALL magic tricks. What makes it a magic trick is not the particular method/mechanis, but that it's deception for entertainment purposes.
Plot twist: He also doesn't know how it works and is genuinely asking for answers.
He made a video long ago on this
So why hide behind the verse? And who put them on rank 40? Toilet incoming
That man is Ph.D in Physics, watch the whole video on his channel
@@mooblu8837these generation only watches shorts so they want a full fking phenomenon explained in one min
Derek, we need to talk about how to end your shorts 💀
I used to love doing this magic trick when I was a kid. *If I remember correctly, you tilt it when dropping so that the weight of the ring causes it to fall forward and loop within the chain.* I don’t know, I’m 35 and I did this trick when I was 10 so I could be totally wrong haha 😅
Yea you described it perfectly, the ring goes through the chain and loops
That was my guess. I hope you are right. lol
You're right, Derek explained this in a video he made some time ago. The video is titled "3 Perplexing Physics Problems"
I love the part where you explain how it's done.
I already saw that 🤣
He already explained it in a video years ago.
Checkout description lol
This fine irony 🤌😁
The best part was where he explained how it worked.
Science isn't paying well so my man is becoming a magician.
this is the second time you didn't tell us how it works, please just tell us derek
this is an old video like OLD. Probably on description ;p
He used to do this in his old videos
Lol adding his name at the end of that comment really made it sound urgent 🚨
He cut a clip from a years old video. The real explanation is this: you let one side go early and that catapults into the chain sliding over itself and catching
Play in slow mo, he lets go of the ring so that it stays in level & doesn’t stick but at the end he lets it go in a way that the ring tilts.
These cliffhangers are giving me an existential crisis
Same 😭
Fr, I want to go watch the whole video now but I bet it’s a little long
🤣 you are so fun!
Flip the ring
Its not a cliffhanger, the answer is linked in the description
No, you see, he's actually asking you, cause he's confused as all hell himself.
This can be done if one side of the ring gains velocity before the other side does, it flips the ring a axis, which wraps the chain around the metal ring, which inturn makes it stick. He basically let go one side before the other and just made it rotate on a axis which made the chain wrap around the chain and lock itsf with the ring, which makes it stick.
For the answer: ua-cam.com/video/K-Fc08X56R0/v-deo.html
Next time don’t give away spoilers for a couple of weeks so people make reaction videos.
Pin this comment so everyone can see it
Woah I feel like I've found the treasure
The link doesn't work on mobile... noooooooo😢
What I'm noticing is that on the normal drops you just drop the ring flat but on the "trick drop" you let the ring drop in a way that, if it was gonna hit the table, it would have rotated 90 degrees and hit it sideways. I'm guessing this motion creates some sort of whipping action that causes the chain to entangle like that
But he have already explained it in earlier videos
@@abhigyakumar3705 So this short is like an exam
@@abhigyakumar3705 cool. And you're assuming everyone has seen every video of this person?
@@abhigyakumar3705 But your school taught English grammar!
Pretty much. The leading edge of the ring actually falls through the chain (which has to be lighter than the ring, and flexible in all directions)
Vsauce wouldn't leave us in the dark
The table's bounce provides enough upward momentum for the knock, which causes the chain to loop back around on itself.
The ring rotates, creating a twist in the chain that tightens into a loop. It helped to pause right after the ring release to see the ring is rotating perpendicular to the plane made by the two straight pieces of chain.
You can also move frame by frame using ""!
Derek, I expect to see a high-speed video recording on my desk by Monday!
It's damn easy to understand.
In the first case you hold the chain in the center of the ring such that it doesn't touch each other, so the ring comes down straight
In the last case you have held the ring such that it is slightly pressing against the chain. This develops normal reaction and friction since surfaces are in contact. So the ring gets tilted and becomes vertical as it falls thus it gets tangled in the chain.
these shorts are turning into those physics questions from exam that i skip 😭
Impart a bit of spin on the ring sufficient to get a half rotation before reaching the bottom of chain.
Derek just casually did a magic trick based on science
In the first time, he didn’t flip the ring (at least not hard enough that cause the ring to turn over twice). In the second time, he turns the ring using his thumb and forefinger with certain amount of torque, so that the ring turns over twice or more in the loophole of the chain, creating a knot between the chain and the loop. (You can experiment and verify it at home :))
Based on the height off the table the chain is upon the dropping of the ring, if it is hanging less than half the height of the rings height viola it will deflect upon hitting table at any angle and snare the chain at its center with one flip
Drop the ring at an angle so the chain wraps around it.
This
The first time I saw this trick years ago it threw me off, but now I understood exactly how it worked instantly.
Same, I thought that they twisted the chain or something until I tried it myself.
Yep - Derek is working hard on keeping the algorithm favourable RN.
Yessir
What about the falling ladder chains. Why was one faster?
I believe there was a leverage force also enacted by the uneven steps hitting the ground adding to the ladders velocity down (rotational motion)
It's an matter of energy. The one dropping the shorter height gains less energy than the one falling farther. Thus it cannot gain as much speed.
@@ShawnHCoreyut that's the one that fell faster. Also, that's just not how things work.
What happens so fast is that the ring flips due to the drag the chain has on the ring. The chain ⛓️ bends upward from the drag, the drag flips the ring, and the ring flips over the part of the chain that bent upwards causes in to lock. The only thing I can think of.
What's holding the ring at the end is called a "Girth Hitch", it's used in climbing a lot !
He made a video explaining this years ago. He drops the ring with the chain rubbing the ring asymetrically which drags it and causes it to whip around and knot itself around the ring when it reaches the bottom
Magic, of course.
On the first drop, the ring falls straight down horizontally.
On the second drop, the ring falls vertically, trapping it in the chain
How dare you leave us without an explanation? Michael could never
It's magic!... Duh!...🧙♂️🔮
I like the part where he says how it works
He made the ring fall THROUGH the hole.
And that's how it wraps up in a legit fashion
The ring falls through the loop made by the chain. This trick only works if the plane of the ring is close to parallel with the direction of the chain.
Declassified
*One Ring to rule them all. One Ring to find them,*
*One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them*
*In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.*
The looped chain and ring looks awfully familiar to Frodo's Ringchain
I was thinking the same thing lmao
Clearly Derek has reached the singularity and now has full control over the forces of our universe.
This is really cool. It's used super often in the climbing community to make a 2 point anchor on a girth hitch
You have my attention wizard.
Opens the upper hand so there is friction on the edges of the ring making the edges of the loop come together, this then has a whip effect through the chain to the end and it knots.
I especially enjoyed the part where he explains how it works
Ooh, I used to love doing that! I one time recorded it in slow motion. Also, for anyone wondering, you let it fall from your pointer finger first so that it flips upside down since your thumb is supporting it from the back
For those who don’t know he basically flips the ring backwards to tie the ring to the string
My guess:
In the first example you dropped the ring so that it falls even and flat. This method does not interact with the chain very much since the disturbance from the ring on the chain is equal on both sides.
In the second example, you let the side of the ring facing you fall first so that it falls at an angle. This angle allows the lower half of the ring to 'push' the chain whilst the upper half 'pulls' the chain. When the chain nears the bottom, there is no node for the wave created to rotate about, and since the chain is less dense than the ring, it can move at a faster rate than the ring is falling, so it flicks up, wraps around the ring and catches before the ring has left the chain, thus, suspending the ring.
One of the simplest, quickest and most reliable knot.
I was a magician for 6 years, you spin the ring when you drop it
Surface tension causes the chain to wrap around the chain. This only happens when the ring falls while the chain is touching it.
Now replace "China" with "USA" and everything fits, mister MacGregor.
I initially intended to write something different here, but I guess I'll "go with the flow":
Vsauce wouldn't leave us hanging like this!
While the ring falls, the chain moves round the outside of the ring at the bottom in the last second.
The neat thing about getting old is watching something like this and realizing you've seen it before, and had it explained before.... and you forget how it's done.....
We use that knot in rock climbing !
I think on the last fall, the chain was slightly resting on the table, allowing some slack. Earlier attempts, the chain dangles in the air.
for a second i was very concerned about where this video was going
He spun it with his fingers as he dropped it. That's why he had to reposition it in his fingers before he did it the last time, to make sure he was holding it correctly, in order to give it a flick as he dropped it and make it flip on the way down.
You let the ring roll off your thumb instead of releasing from both sides at once. It causes the ring to flip and loop the chain around it in the process.
The way you twisted the chain with your left hand. On the last drop, you let it go along with the ring.
For any of you guys wondering there is a tiny hole in the ring where he sticks the chain through
Congratulations. You've reinvented the girth hitch.
The last time, you put the loop down half the chain, making it look like you were simply touching it to your finger on top to stabilize it or to get a better grip of it.
Girth hitches itself when the ring goes between the vertical sections of chain and passes behind the loop at the bottom.
"... So you know that I'm not playing any tricks." Uh-huh.
Nice trick, you do not need to think just need to make sure that that ring switches to vertical orientation. This will create that effect by pushing the lower end of ring inside the chain loop, also it happens at the last moment when both chain and ring have 4 point of contacts
With any end of the ring tilted more towards the ground, it starts winding the chain below due to gravity so we get a winded ring attached.
Strike 1 Vsauce… done me dirty
With careful manipulation of both objects he formed a knot in the chain that tied it to the ring as the ring dropped. Pretty clever.
Karl's right about the manhole cover
Thanks for explaining how it works in the last 0.1 second.
Confirmed: Derrick is pact of the chain
"So you know I'm not playing any tricks. "
*Procedes to perform a trick*
One side of the ring is Dropped before the other end, like this the ring flips in the air due to momentum and locks within the chain.
A slow mo footage will clear it up easily 😊
The as the eadge of the ring slide across the chain it crates a ripple effect that just gets bigger as it moves along until it gets big enough and has enough energy to litterally expand the end of the loop and whip all the way around the entire ring and it happens so fast your eyes cant see it. You really could never guess that how it happens without a slowmo cam.
Looks like a knot, which is honestly equivalent to magic to me 😅
Dropping the ring flat, vs dropping it with a slight "rotation/flip"
Guys. He's not (technically) leaving us hanging. It's a teaser to watch the full video (you can tap on it under the title). If you really want the answer, it's there
The ring doesn’t pass through the closed loop. The loop goes through the ring, , circles back over the ring and loops itself.
It's still a closed loop, now wrapped around the ring as a knot.
'Beals Science' shows well how it works.
Videos like this go back almost a decade.
Derek Widens the two fingers holding a chain. In the first two try, he keeps the distance between the two fingers equal to or less than the diameter of the ring. and the last try he widens the fingers more than the diameter and the ring gets stuck.
"…do this all in one take, so you know that I'm not playing any tricks." He says, then proceeds to have part of his hand, the chain, and the metal ring cut out of the frame, thus rendering his statement moot. There's no longer a way for the viewer to know that no tricks were played.
I'm not saying that tricks were played, just that his statement isn't true.
the starting 2 shots were done when the chain wasn't touching the ring and hence no friction, but 3rd shot is when he touches the ring with chain and then when he leaves, the friction makes it to loop around the ring
Everyone please. You don't need to force flip the ring with your finger. Just make the chain wider than the ring's diameter and gravity+inertia will do the rest.
The ring when dropped with an angle forces the chain with increasing momentum until it snaps at the bottom and loop around the ring.
My brain ain't braining rn
It's simple. He looped the chain around the ring on his last attempt
People summoning Vsauce in comment section is amazing 😂
the metal ring begins to tumble. the lighter chain is wrapped around the "closed loop" of the ring, while the chain on both sides has to - wrap around - the metal ring (the mass of the tumbling metal ring overcomes the chains static line inertia) the chain is forced along the circular curve of the metal ring as a guide, the chains on either side, swing around the outer circumferences of the metal ring) . . . as the mass of the metal ring tumble pulls the chain around the metal ring, the loop meets "it's own closed loop "behavior" as it tightens the looped chain now considered to be "wrapped" topologically around the metal ring. hmm its a pattern of "shortest distance" latch onto the torus of the metal ring.
If you made the chain a little wider with your fingers, as it falls it creates an outward momentum on the chain so when it reaches the end, it wraps around the ring holding it in place
By positioning the ring close to the top of the side of the thumb, rather than the middle of the thumb as in the first two drops, the release will cause the index finger side of the ring to drop, while the thumb side of the ring experiences enough resistance to cause the ring to spin from horizontal to vertical. The ring falling vertically rubs on the chain, causing it to open and flap below the ring, allowing the ring to fall into the open chain.
If you watch frame by frame, you can see the ring is released at an angle so it can flip