Totally New RV Company's FIRST Unit!! 2022 Ember 191MDB
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- 2022 Ember RV Overland 191MDB Off Road Travel Trailer with Cargo Bunkhouse, Solar, Azdel, Woodless Construction, and just.. SO MUCH MORE!
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2022 Ember Overland 191MDB Travel Trailer Specs
Hitch 680lbs
Empty 4,650
Cargo 900
Max 5,550
Length 22'6"
Height 10'4"
Width 7'6"
Awning 14ft
Fresh 55gal
Gray 35gal
Black 40gal
LP 2x20lb
Goodyears 16" w/TPMS
Thank you SO MUCH for joining us today as we debut THE VERY FIRST Ember RV EVER to go thru production for the consumer public! We were given the distinction of being Ember RV's very first and "Original" dealer and just couldn't be more proud of what we see!
The RV is unlike anything we've ever featured at Bish's RV before and I'm incredibly excited to see it! From the Chassis to the roof there's absolutely nothing "conventional" to be seen here!
The ride and handling with the true independent suspension is amazing (tested it personally) and the RV just OOZES with upscale looks and feels! I can't wait to hear what you think about it!
We have these at several of our locations including Salt Lake City in Utah, Coldwater in Michigan, and more!!
Though the "Build" of the RV is completely uncommon the layout can also be found on these RVs:
→ Jay Feather 199MBS: bit.ly/3CwgRC3
→ Wildwood (Platinum) 178BHSK: bit.ly/3c543qc
→ Wildwood (Standard) 178BHSK: bit.ly/3DbQ6Tj
→ Catalina 184BHS: bit.ly/2YIGG2Q
(Let me know which one is your favorite!)
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*Hey everyone!! Ember is ALREADY listening! They’re now offering a sofa option in the slide I date as of only a dinette!! This will do wonders for tv watching and I believe it includes a floating dinofa table as well you could use inside or outside! Can’t wait to see what they come up with next*!!*
Removable bunks that I could turn into a pantry or an office with a standing desk... Bingo
A sofa in the slide would be my preferred way to outfit this one. As it is a fairly deep slide, I would love to see how the sofa looks with the wheel well to contend with. Will the sofa be brought forward and have a storage space behind? Set back with an L- lounge over the wheel well? Will it just a be deeper seated sofa? I need answers josh!!! Hahaha!
@@leemillis6490 Min as well. I don't have sofa-details but as soon as they start rolling out, then I'll have them
I plan to try to stock this one a variety of ways as it's an Intensely flexible layout
Glad they are making the sofa instead of dinette. I would like to see the wall of the Murphy bed trimmed out when it's put up . I thought it looked like unfinished plywood. I also loved your idea of making the bunk beds optional . Great camper and great ideas . Looking forward to seeing in it person!
Would love to see maybe a little longer camper with a north south queen bed!
Counter top space can be improved by putting a flip up cutting board.
I review alot of the overland capable vehicles and trailers. 75% of my content features the tough trailers that US trailers normally cannot compete with...until now. When I saw the trailing arm independent suspension I knew I was seeing something special.
I really want to do a field test review of this trailer. I'm getting the new tundra and I think this would be the perfect overland camper for a family like mine. There's 5 of us lol. A rooftop tent won't cut it and my wife "needs" a shower and toilet. 😄
I must have an ember!!!!!!
A couple years ago I went through a phase of watching videos of the Australian trailers meant for off-road. They are magnificent beasts! A lot of Americans in the Comments wanted to know if they could import one. I think Ember has a niche to fill.
I am really interested to see how well this thing holds up over some rumble and swaying. Like you, truck tent is a non-starter with the wife for the same reasons. Looks like this model would be pushing tongue weight really close to the edge with my diesel GMC Canyon though. Especially with the needed WDH on there and the thing still isn't loaded. Hopefully the smaller 170BH doesn't have the monstrous 680lb hitch weight.
High marks!!
@@JoshtheRVNerd Remember what I said about these being made for UA-cam adventurers? Yup.
Ember does have a niche to fill but it’s tiny and at 50k? Good gravy. It’s like getting a ride on mower for a townhouse yard.
@@JoshtheRVNerd YES!!!! JOSH ! 🤩PLEASE Your idea of making BOTH BUNKS FOLD UP w/BACK DOOR ACCESS (with tie-downs (and hopefully not loose some sort of outdoor kitchen, say .. starting on at least a 22” foot model, is A DREAM COME TRUE!!!! With storage all around (kitchen/bathroom) like a Northwood &/or Wildwood, the table that can be interchanged to the sofa/theater chairs and also lowers and can be used as a coffee table (can’t think what it’s called??🥲) of course a wrap-around kitchen counter in 22’ and larger and option of that vertical stove (love that if you don’t want an oven yet need a stove top but don’t need a 3 burner to take up all that counter space- even in a bigger RV) ; have a model that comes w/off-road standard; although they do offer the pkg,; but a lot of us of peeps are mainly off-grid) & what would TOP THIS ALL OFF 🤩🤩🤩 is if they could have incorporate PATIO OPTION MODEL in TO GO WITH ALL THOSE THINGS SOMEHOW !!!! 🤪😆🤣. DREAM ON, RIGHT ??? 😝 but tTHAT’s My Dream RV; that’s what I’m searching for.. I guess I’ve put off because I can’t find that cross between a lighter weight residential
RV & kinda toyhauler (yet not toyhauler so to speak (back door with full fold up bunks would do the trick) yet still have high storage, comfort, lighter weight-weight (not 5th wheel & not 30 ft long) !! I’m still DREAMING I KNOW !!!! 🌈 and ohhh a tub / shower 😝 as my dream gets bigger and my dream RV gets longer and heavier .. 🙄!!! THIS RV is the BOMB tho and can’t wait to see the bigger ones !! TY JOSH, #EmberRV AND HaylettRV
I like that the heating vent is under the fridge instead of taking away a drawer!!! Thank you.
The window shades are awesome!
Probably the "most perfect" camper/layout I've seen. Durable long lasting. I love the back storage door and trailer hitch on back. One kayak inside and trailer hitch for bikes. It'd be nice to get two kayaks in there. I'm not sure of the storage up against the wall across from the toilet as it looks like a knee knocker. Small kitchen with huge fridge is perfect as we do the vast majority of our cooking outside but the fridge is a must. My only question is the weight limit on the beds?
I don’t know the bed limits offhand but would be surprised to see them below 300lbs
I would love to a full electric option, no propane! Possibly a diesel heater/water heater system would be cool too!
Interesting.. ty
Absolutely beautiful. I really wonder if the acrylic windows will help reduce condensation forming? I raise my hand and say YES PLEASE for removable bunks……who does that currently!?!?! NO ONE but I know a half dozen people on the Geo Pro boards that have removed one or more of their bunks to make space.
You know….anyone that tows a single axle off grid equipped camper is a minimalist packer anyway. So as I sit here thinking about my own packing trends…..I could make it work. Definitely worth the lack of storage given the added features.
I still can’t stand the 12v TV. I think the lack of use (since you cant see it while on the Murphy bed and you won’t be able to swivel it if you have two people sitting on the Murphy bed) and how big it is….just bothers me personally.
The only other sad point is the excessive tongue wt. 680 lbs Tongue WT moves it into a true 1/2 ton spec even though the GVWR is safely within the Tacoma/Colorado/Ranger small truck arena. Can I just mention how nice it will be towing though with a large SUV and opening up the back hatch or dropping the tail gate and NOT banging into a Jack (I love their Jack system)!!!!!
Beautiful, absolutely beautiful camper…….and now I want one!
Yeah those windows will reduce condensation a lot but PLEASE understand if that's a problem you're having, then changing the windows isn't the solution -- a dehumidifier is. The composition of the windows doesn't actually remove that moisture content from the air
What a good product
Jeff gets it
Are they going to do other floor plans?
Of course!
Yes, please make the camp kitchen optional and turn the bunk area in to an office and closet storage area.
Yep. We did it.
I would like to see a version with the bunks removed. Office area is a plus.
Yes!
Yes, office option would be great
If bunks were optional we would add a 30" single bed as a second bedroom so wife could get away from my c-pap noise.
I agree!! An office space would be great!!!!
great minds think alike!!!
That office idea is gold; I don’t even own a truck but I’d go buy one just to get that RV with an office space.
TY! Your screen name btw is amazing lol
I agree, This could be a couples' camper if you could pull out the Bunkhouse and put more storage, plus a desk and shelves.
@@JoshtheRVNerd 100% agree here! :)
I'm with ya on this. I'd rather have a desk and storage there than the bunks.
It’s called a 191MSL! We listened!
I am all in on having an easily convertable bunk area to achieve a mobile office. Maybe some heavy-duty latch system that would allow at least the lower bunk to be removed without a lot of carpentry.
Thanks Josh. An Ember might be worth it instead our plans for a Northern Lite TC or an Escape trailer. Our recommended changes: make the TV optional (we'd not get it), make the external kitchen optional (we'd not get it), and add an option for a flip-up kitchen counter extension.
Yes, kitchen extension and outdoor kitchen optional (I wouldn't get it)
I agree totally with an optional camp kitchen (I'd never use it) and bunks that could be removed to make an office space. And I welcome extra weight if it comes from extras like better windows, suspension, tank warmers, etc. BUT, the cargo capacity is awful! It'd be so much better if that could be boosted along with fold-up/down extra counter space.
There are many of us that work remotely--more and more--it would be a dream rv if they could turn it into an office with some hanging storage for clothing. RVs just are not being created for those who need office space are want to full-time or do extended stays for months at a time and need to work.
I know for a fact they're watching and will see this. TY Melina!
Josh, removable bunks is a genius idea. To be able to customize that space would be amazing. Now I would love to see a kitchen slide like a Geo Pro 19FDS so the bed could go North/South.
Hey! I JUST HAD AN AWESOME IDEA! How about every camper you walk through from now on you set a boom box 10’ away at the same volume same sound every time and use a decibel meter to test the noise level of each camper. That would be neat to know different manufactures sound deadening abilities.
I like that idea!!
at same distant from RV
Congratulations Josh! I am so happy for you and Ember!
Ah thank you my guy! Good spot in the back of one of these for your ebike 😉
Need to place toilet against wall where shelf is , i think that would be better plus toilet paper holder on bathroom door really .
U shaped dinette would be nic no bunk beds. soon i hope
A towel bar yes thst would be grand instead of a chep hook
Option no bunk beds, option of u shaped dinette, cassette toilet
First thought I had immediately after seeing the bunks: "I'd remove them to gain extra space for bicycles/gear AND cargo weight capacity." The option to order one without them would be a game changer for us (first time buyers in our 30s w/no kids or guests). Actually, having the RESIDENTIAL QUEEN bed space already built-in kind of pushes this to our top spot since my husband and I are super tall. Also, these things are expensive anyway so being able to customize the layout/floorplan right from the factory even MORE (even if we had to pay a little bit more and wait a little bit longer) would be super awesome. For example, we work from home so having enough power to use both of our laptops for prolonged amount of time (longer the better lol) would be AWESOME and the ability to switch out the toilet for a composting/cassette style and just use ALL the tanks as gray tanks. (I know you can rig it yourself, but not everyone has the time and/or willingness to DIY these things). I'm so excited to keep an eye on Ember developments! :) (((I hope the "remote control" is referring to your phone! It would be awesome to control the awning and lights via our phones.))
Yep! Remote was via the free OneControl app. Works nicely and integrates with the TPMS
I too, like the idea of office space in the back, but I'd like to keep the option to use the bunks, even if I had to move them manually (or kept them where the camp kitchen is located with inside access. Perhaps they could figure out a way to flip the top bunk, and use the board for the bottom bunk as a desk (dual purpose). I admit that I would use the office area more often, but would like to have the bunks as a convertible option for visitors.
Even just the single top bunk seal it off and make the bottom a garage and add tie downs.
Would love to see no bunks, no dinette, sofa in the slide, fixed down queen bed, and bigger bathroom and storage space where the bunks are.
YES! Ability to remove the bunks completely and enlarge the door rear door. Tiny garage ftw. I'd put money down on a unit if they ever enlarge the door big enough to put a dirt bike in.
Finally - a trailer that is very well built and reminds me of the off-road trailers from Australia. Well done Ember and congratulations on being dealer #1! They chose well! YES to the cargo hauler / mobile office workspace. I love the outdoor kitchen, but I love the idea of being given the option of (a) added storage space for in-transit by making the bunks fold out of the way with an outdoor kitchen or (b) no outdoor kitchen and a huge office/cargo space.
I'd change those chrome street wheels. Basic black appeals more to the off road crowd that this camper is trying to market to.
I had to watch this twice to make sure my brain was screwed in straight…. It was. There is no hanging storage. Not exactly a deal breaker but..ok. I would love to see the upper bunk also flip up and out of the way for taller storage and it would also secure storage totes while flipped up in travel mode. I am waiting for the final non bunk model to come out for comparison. Thanks Josh for all you do to keep us informed and entertained!
that's a common hangup (lol) in this layout pretty much no matter who builds it. They know it's a challenge here. Hopefully they play with my "bunks go away" idea and make that potentially closet space
Lack of hanging storage won't be an "across the board" thing for them. Just this one's layout makes it tough
Removable bunks is brilliant. Maybe with an option of "dutch" fold-in-half bed so back part has a hard top that can be used as a desk, craft table, etc.
Yes I love the idea of removable bunks. That would offer a lot of versatility!
I REALLY love the idea of being able to delete the camp kitchen and fold the bunks out of the way completely for a big cargo area. (Note: I may *occasionally* have a human guest, but not *usually*, so I don't want to remove both bunks entirely, but have them "out of the way" most of the time but at least one available in a pinch. Perhaps somewhat oddly, if going to only one of them I'd rather keep a top bunk, since it's easier for a human to climb into something high than a dog, and then I could still keep the dog crates at the floor level.) You'd probably need to either make them hinge on opposite walls to accommodate double-over-double, or make one of them a single. If you do that, please ALSO make the access door BIGGER. I want it BOTH taller and wider than what we see here. I'm looking at toy haulers for non-motorized stuff like (BIG!) dog crates and dogsleds, and they'd work, but have some other awkward compromises. Dogsleds don't fold at all, and are a bit bigger in profile than kayaks, so aren't quite going to work in setups designed just for kayaks in mind, but I don't actually need ATV/motorcycle weight capacity either - just bulky space. I have Alaskan Malamutes - while they could roam MOST of the time, the desire to have the OPTION to crate them if necessary and the size of crate they require is the #1 limiting factor in what size and floorplan of trailer I can consider, and it's been super awkward finding something that works for that without going much larger than I actually want. My most likely reason to buy a bunkhouse would be to modify the bunk space into dog crating area, so if you make that easy from the factory AND make it possible to open a nice wide and tall door from the back to slide a dogsled in, that'd be frickin' amazing. I definitely want to know the exact dimensions of the opening of that rear access door. I suspect that door is still a bit too small for my needs currently, but if you ditch the camp kitchen it would be possible to make something that would work for me.
Now, with respect to the camp kitchen, here's what you do: Keep the baggage door, but have it go to nowhere. The reason is with the "drawbridge" shelf style, even if I'm STORING a griddle somewhere else, I can still flip that door down and USE a griddle in that spot! Easy peasy best of both worlds! You could also keep a mini-pocket beyond the door that's only like 3 inches deep that could just hold a little utensil hanger, frying pan, and some other knick-knacks without stealing as much interior space as the full-depth thing does.
I look at bunkhouses for same reason. Dog crating and lil office space. I also like the cargo door for a doggy door/ dog ramp from back space. I’d put out fence so dogs can go in and out as they please for potty n hanging out
Yes on Tony's mini outdoor kitchen idea!
The No-Bo makes (or made) a real basic toy-hauler in both single and double axle versions. It has "Beast Mode" suspension that's axle-less, trailing-arm suspension, like in the Ember in the video.
I think InTech Flyer Pursue has barn doors in the back, and no rear-door ramp option, but it's got a big, wide-open cabin. Their next step up is the Flyer Explore, which is made to be a toy hauler, and is about a foot taller, so you can stand in it and haul 'most any toy they make. I just don't like the height for hauling behind my Tacoma. Oh, it'll handle it all right. I got the tranny cooler, so I'll be able to drag one at highway speeds. But that big wall I'd be pulling behind me would be a real gas guzzle.
Just out of curiosity, I looked at the height, width and length of the Pursue cabin, and it can hold a small 4-wheeler (without roll-cage), 3-wheeler, micro-snowmobile or about any dirt bike from a 250 cc on down. A lot of folks would love to be able to roll their e-bikes (a very sensible application of EV tech, unlike what Detroit and Tesla are selling).
Me, personally, I'm just going to get a basic bed on wheels micro camper. After a lifetime of tent camping, just any kind of hard walls and air conditioner is the height of luxury and convenience. I've put down a deposit on a Runaway Venturist. Even a minimalist teardrop/squaredrop is a huge game changer for me.
The bad thing about tent camping is when you're only staying one night. Trips you'd rather spread over 2 or 3 easy days than one marathon. Not really breaking out all your gear until the end of the long trip, Setting up and tearing down a tent used to be part of the fun. But in my 50's, it just kept getting harder and harder for me (knee injuries). And if I drank any beer before bed, calls of nature were WAY too hard.
Awesome TT. Yeah make one without bunks and only thing they should do is get a smaller TV and put it higher. Maybe a counter top extender. I love it. Thanks for doing this video Josh👍👍
+1 from me on this. Counter extender would be an inexpensive addition and it could transform that small kitchen space from frustrating into functional.
Believe me when I say "this was truly my pleasure" on this one :)
If do a counter extender make it level with counter
This is very close to the RV we have been looking for that I can actually pull with my existing truck except for 3 things: Really need some kitchen counter space - maybe a flip up extension; definately need removable bunk beds because of lack of interior space for our needs; really need a bigger gray water tank with a 55 gal fresh water tank - like a 45 gallon gray water tank. I would be interested in a longer model with dual axle tires with more interior space for bigger kitchen counter and some more kitchen storage. Really need to come up with something better for TV viewing. Love everything else about this and so glad to see new startup company that listens to customers with great build and quality.
I like a dinette design (floating table) that would allow that space to be used as prep space, or if the bunk room is a desk/office, using some of that space for bigger prep jobs.
Josh, great job on reviewing the Ember! I totally agree, I would NOT want the outside kitchen nor the bunk beds. Not enough storage outside and by NOT having that outdoor kitchen and bunks what an excellent storage space it would be. It needs more counter space for certain (a counter extender minimum). Also needs towel rods in the bathroom. The build quality and a heavy duty independent rear are such WELCOME features such as being able to upgrade the solar. I love the Ember!
This one was so much fun to go thru
14:00 personally I don’t like round sinks, & the lack of any counter space is an issue (a slide out counter just below the cooktop & above the top drawer would be an good idea; as it’s better than a flip up extension that blocks the main entry door); although other models I’m sure don’t have the same constraints & can provide more counter space (as I don’t need/want bunks which also takes up a lot of kitchen space in conjunction with the true queen bed). = as you touched on at 14:18 + 14:40 if they had a square or rectangular sink, the sink cover could be used as a side splash (I’d go for a wood cutting board sink cover so it can be used for multiple purposes, or at least a rolling drain cover)
I want this very badly.
My improvements would be switching the black and grey tank capacities, a snap-on counter extension/cutting board/magnetic backsplash, and a giant locker in the back with just the upper bunk.
Nevertheless I really really want this.
Josh, you lost me with the residential mattress comment. Anybody can get an impossible to make east west bed and dinette floorplan🤮 The Murphy bed helps make this trailer kinda special! I love the fiberglass roof, the suspension, the solar and the 55 gallons of fresh water storage👍 But as you mentioned, the TV position pretty much sucks, I really wish it had an attached ladder and if you have enough people to fill all of those beds, I have no idea where you would store enough food, utensils and clothes😬
Making the camp kitchen optional and having a way to cleanly remove the bunks without damaging the walls would be great. I'm thinking like having the option to leave the bottom one at home to get extra storage while still having the upper bunk for the kid, and also being able to leave both at home and have a garage/office space. If they came up with a way to remove/fold them out of the way "in the field" even better, but having to make the choice on a trip by trip basis would be almost as good.
I think many want the outside kitchen so as not to cook too much in the camper and it's hard for companies to special order things like those because of how they are built. But knowing so far how this company does things, maybe they'll allow special requests.
@@yankeesusa1 yeah, he said he was specifically talking to them about doing this, so I was giving my support to that idea. I already have a griddle and a folding table to put it on, and don't need a special nook to store it in.
That would be cool!
Thinking about it more, even an option to just have the bunk space be empty like the ROL model’s back locker (but open to the living area) would be a preference. I’m most interested in the non-slide floor plan and would just get a folding cot for the kid or air bed for the kid.
Finally! A US manufacturer taking cues from the awesome Australian built units I love but can't buy here! Solidly built for actual off road use. Love the real suspension system and tires that are not designed to explode on your first trip down a rocky road. Nice solar options. Some great features in a compact space. I'd love to see more models from them, like a couples model with larger kitchen space (ditch the bunks) and walk around queen bed. I don't suppose you could land a Kedron franchise eh?
Just googled those. Interesting stuff!
The first dealer to land the Australian brands Lotus or Zone would also be a big winner.
Would love to see one with "easily" removed bunks. Office / storage / changing area would be great. Also with the top bunk removed, gives a sleep area for an adult.
Can I get an Ember that is 28'-30', has a more convenient entertainment center, has a convertible bunk/office area, is rated for four season camping, and has a solar package that allows for extended boon-docking? If so, it might be time to sell my house.
In time perhaps. Not quite yet anyway :)
Finally some innovations on the RV industry. It was about time to have double layer windows.
Would love to see a storage space where the bunks are or better yet a 26 - 28 foot model! Fingers crossed. Love, love, love this company and their innovation and desire to make a high-quality product.
They're still rolling out their initial lineup. Larger things like tandem axles will all come with time as they expand. They're looking to grow slowly and steadily rather than try to do too much at one time
Ditto, a dual independent axle 26-28’.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Yea, can't wait!
I like the idea of outdoor kitchen optional but maintaining an LP hookup as standard. Really like the look and build of this trailer. Would be perfect for my Jeep Gladiator. Just have to convince the wife...
Gladiator can tow 4500 pounds, this is max weight 5500.
No way you’re towing this monster with a gladiator.
Come on. They have to find a good viewing spot for the TV. Plus=Truma Combi, queen bed, lighting, sky light, roof pitch, floor design, kitchen access, 12v fridge, solar optional pkg., great tank space BUT why larger black than grey??? space access with slide in, windows, exterior light control, framing, tires w/tpms, suspension, ground clearance, optional camp kitchen, yep, if I hadn't sold my Jeep Gladiator, I would be buying this. Thanks for the great intro.
YOU COVERED THE OFFICE SPACE!!!! That was literally the first thing I thought when you mentioned the fold-away bunk. I would choose to lose the outside kitchen for the office space. Love the skylight windows, especially over the bed, and that it opens so far is amazing. Take the storage compartments up the rest of the bathroom wall maybe with a slide-up cover on the bottom shelves.
It would be a game changer
I would love the removable bunks!!! If bringing the grandkids, the bunks would be awesome but most of the time having that space for whatever else I want would be awesome. I would love the standard bed without the murphy and theater seating instead of the dinette.
TY :)
Good thing on this model is you can literally just completely ignore the murphy function
Even if the bunks folded up on themselves.
Agree, with portable table system..
More storage space would a game changer! A trailer with enough storage to put my mountain bikes Inside when traveling or sleeping would be amazing, I haven’t seen one with enough room to hold more than one though. Great idea!
maybe a hanging clothing bar up high to hang clothing for construction people or those that need to hang more clothing and jackets as an option as well.
Hopefully they will have the Geo Pro 19fd floor plan that has no slide, with a rear lithium battery system to help keep hitch weight well below 500 lbs.
Living in the Colorado Rocky Mountains, the most popular off road, off grid camping vehicle is the Toyota 4Runner 4x4 which the current 5th generation have only a 5000 lb tow & 500 lb hitch weight limits.
Remember if you make it really light it will not be really sturdy. If they make it solid and sturdy to handle offroad it will not be the lightest camper. If you are towing offroad you want more than 10% of the weight on your vehicle so you can keep traction otherwise the trailer is to heavy of a tow and you spinout. If you are driving gravel roads the weight percentage is not as much a deal but if you go into muddy trails the trailer will bog you down if you do not have enough weight forward for the truck to carry and that weight reduces payload.
@@badgerpa9 Great points!
With 35 years of advanced material reinforcement manufacturing engineering and engineering experience experience, I have designed a model that is extremely light weight and literally bullet prof.
Would ❤️ to work for Ember as they get it!
Great walkthrough Josh & loved all the details. I would like to have office space instead of bunks, but I love this trailer! Thanks for the video.
Thx for watching Dan!!
Really impressive! Quality looks fantastic. Does the skylight have a screen? Would like to see a slide awning. They took the bungee cords off the upper shelves, I would prefer the cords. Stove definitely needs a side splash guard and a side hinged shelve for more counter space would be great since it’s so small. Maybe a slot for the kitchen sink cover, there’s nowhere to put it. There really is very little kitchen storage, in fact inside storage is it’s weakness. The TV needs to move up a little bit so cords don’t show so much. Bathroom is fantastic! I agree, at the least add another hook. None of these nit picking things are dealbreakers. I think it’s a very cool camper! It’s definitely pricey but no shocker there considering the quality. Looking forward to seeing other floor plans without the bunks. Personally would rather have more kitchen (counter) space (storage). Thanks for the in depth tour.
I'm pretty sure the things he called "day shades" are actually bug screens, but it was a little hard to tell...
Shades for all windows - day shade can operate as a bug screen
I just realized that the privacy shade in the bathroom, comes from the top down. It certainly would be great, if they started at the bottom & went up to give some privacy, yet you can still get get some light.😊
I agree. Noticed that too.
Night down from the top
Day up from the bottom
So you can really have it both ways
Keep top bunk, allow it to be raised to ceiling then open space for cargo, office, craft/sewing area 😍. Yeah the drunk octopus 🐙 needs a friend.
Good first start, but overland....not in my area. We usually go way out into the wild blue yonder. That underbelly would be gone first trip out. It needs an aluminum skid plate. Also, get rid of those crappy locks on outside storage and replace will full compression doors & locks. All those compartments will get full of dust. I would take out the bottom bunk for more storage. No camp kitchen, full slide in that space and a 12v plug for a fridge or just storage. Under mount metal bathroom sink. I would probably never raise the bed so I would take out that sofa and make more inside storage. I like the Truma Combi, if its the tank less. Lastly, I would change out the toilet for composting. Its nice to see American companies getting into the offroad market.
Please give me your view on the "Slide out" coping with the rumble and tumble on the bumps and holes in overland conditions 🤔 would it have some kind of fixation system to hold the slide in place ?
@@vrugtmanable if your asking me, I'm not sure about slides off road. Personally, on the trails we go, I won't consider anything with traditional rv slides. We live in Arkansas and spend our off road time in Ouachita and Ozark mountains. Regular rvs are really too big & tall for the trails. This is just my opinion.
@@felishagathright4013 Thanks for you input. Probably best to take the safe route meaning the "Black Series" which does not have slides. 😁
Josh: The Ember Overland 191MDB seems to be a niche trailer for someone with deep pockets. At the present price point, in my opinion, Ember is marketing to a very limited market base. As a new name in the RV world, Ember could be a leader, if not the only mainstream manufacture, offering total customer specialization making everything inside the trailer box a customer selected option. Starting with a basic “box” then the customer can option in, cabinet, microwave, convection micro wave. Option in or out the outside kitchen. As to the bunkroom area: option in no bunks or give buyers an option to choose an office or storage area, or choose single bunks or double bunks that attach to vertical attachment/hanging system on each sidewall so the bunks can be added or remove as wanted. If the bunks aren’t able to be optioned, then provide hard point attachment points so storage totes can go into them and be secured in transit. Think of it as marketing “Ember trailers. We build quality trailers the way YOU want your trailer.” Respectfully, WS
I really like that business model, but I wonder if a company can make enough money doing so much customization. Then again, they might sell a huge number of the "basic box" models to those who want to do their own customization. There are a lot of people buying basic cargo trailers and converting them. No one is building cargo trailers with the frame/suspension/walls/roof/floor quality that Ember seems to be going for. Maybe could make their volume on the basic box and margins on the add ons.
I suspect once their feet are solidly under them they will venture into things more accessible. For now I think they’re going for a “HEY LOOK AT ME” kind of approach
@@johnvowell6348 Agreed. I'd like to seem them add mounting points like Ford, Toyota, and Tesla have played with (TSlot, and LTrack) so that folks could really DYI their own customized solutions. Endless flexibility but easier to build for Ember.
Love the office idea with fold up bunks and cargo tie downs. I am a bit surprised they went as far as they did but didn’t put slam latch doors on the compartment doors however that’s not a deal breaker.
I like it. The office idea is excellent. I would also like a dinofa instead of a dinette. In short a bunkhouse version, and a couple's version. Congrats on the price, just under many peoples max.
Trade the dinette for a sleeper sofa/dinofa and make it easier to convert the bunk room into an office.
Josh, great Idea for the BUNKS. Keep the top bunk on power lift so you can tuck it away for storage/cargo/Office or just day time space. Leave the floor open (Maybe a J-cube style system on the floor?). And of course CARGO DOORS.
Great ideas 💡
Thx sam!
Ditch the bunk beds and use the space for kitchen and clothing storage. Other than that we like it.
Some amazing engineering that I think lot of people have been waiting for. Material choices are so smart.
I'm not a fan of that baggage door hardware. Slam latches would be more in keeping with the rest of the build quality.
While I see where you are coming from, I see the plus of having additional outside flat space to set a drink or two. If you're camping, you'd like to be outside. Maybe? No need to grab a table and set up then tear down.
Congrats on being the first Ember dealership!
I find this to be an interesting trailer as it has some of the features that I have been interested in for some time. I like the independent suspension, the large outdoor kitchen and the overall layout in general.
I am curious if the reduced interior stove would have enough space to hold my 10" cast iron skillet without being too close to the wall and causing heat damage? That is hard to tell via video. I also prefer a propane oven with the stove for when I am not connected to park utilities.
I would also prefer more exterior storage up front as that is where I generally store the outdoor chairs, the barbecue stuff, and the weight distributing hitch equipment while camping.
Not much use for having a TV position that can not be viewed from the couch.
The acrylic windows are great for insulation, reduced noise level, and letting in a lot of light, but they are fragile and easily scratched. ( I know because my current RV has one). It will be interesting to see how these windows last long term.
This is a great first offering. Should be interesting to see the improvements as it is further refined.
Ty for watching and sharing!!
this is the one i been waiting for, gimme that office option
Yo, Ember RV, this is an incredible start, completely impressed with this. Please, please though, don't get arrogant early, stay open minded. Listen to Josh, he knows what he's talking about. As someone who owns a mid-size bunk house, and works remotely, and wants to work while I'm camping more, Josh is DEAD ON with the suggestion for bunk modularity. Hell, even if you can't pull off a fold away system with bunks, build this floor plan without the camp kitchen (that can still be accomplished with quick connect) and make that area convertible for other reasons, with a focus on a flip-down desktop to create a simple office space. Regarding storage, since you can stand on the battery box (fantastic), what about adding a storage box on the roof? Possibly shorten the solar window thing, or option eliminating it (the roof window is nice, more storage would be better) in favor of one larger storage box. Final comment: Ember clearly has an upper level product here; for the love of Pete, get rid of the crappy same old outside compartment locks, they are garbage. First thing I upgraded on my own rig. Kick ass Ember!
YES! I thought the same thing about the outside compartment locks. Why does everyone use the cheap 75 cent locks that all have the same key. Just put up a couple of hundred dollars more and convert all the locks to something that actually works and is durable?
Trust me when I say they’re already ahead of me and have great things coming
I’d say loose the tv or is there a possible ceiling mount that can fold down. The bunk model isn’t bad, but looking forward to the non bunk style.
Size and weight would be well within limits of my Old 2019 Ford Ranger. However, with such a short wheelbase, a sway control weight distribution hitch would be needed. Their fancy “gear box” is eating up valuable real estate on the a-frame where almost all weight distribution hitches mount their brackets.
I was coming to comment on this very issue. Are there any WDH/Sway bar options that will fit this trailer?
20-22 ft toy hauler version please !!!! You know if we are the buyers for this type of model we have toys to haul. Think Sportmen 180THT or Geopro toy hauler.
I think as soon as some new tires become available which will increase their GVWR you'll see a smaller hauler come into play
One motor cycle hauler!! Tv hook up in top bunk for kids on rainy days.
Wow! I do believe Ember will develop a following similar to Air stream. This camper is so different than anything else on the market. But horrible location for a TV. We tend to use our oven and range top a lot, so this kitchen set up leaves us wanting. Other than those two items this camper is several steps above most available units on the market today. Every thing on the Ember camper is thought out, maximized and upgraded. Lots of great designs are going to come from this company. Thanks for sharing Josh!
There’s now a sofa option for the slide I think Will help fix that problem
Been looking at the smaller bunkhouse campers for a while and was thinking of "settling" for a GeoPro as that was the closest my wife and I could find to what we wanted. Ember with the true queen murphy bed kind of just blew everyone else out of the water. I won't be buying for a couple years so competitors can catch up but that queen bed + bunkhouse is exactly what my family needs.
My recommendation on the "RV Office" idea would be to delete the camp kitchen entirely, remove the rear access door, and make the bunks stowable (ratchet to the ceiling maybe?). Personally I'd also like a network jack so that I can hard-wire the camper as well but that may just be me. If they deleted the bunks completely then I'd argue that the TV should go over there on a swivel arm of some sort so that the couch would be more useful. Maybe even extend the kitchen a foot or two to get some extra counter space as not as much space is needed for an office.
Tell you what, if I had seen this 3 months ago, it sure would have been in the running. The East/West bed is the only gotcha for my situation (and maybe the high tongue weight, but that would be my issue to overcome). Pricing and features (especially with the larger solar package and inverter) are really good and not having cheap arse cabinets (hello Black Series) is awesome to see in the camper! They have a winner here!!!
I've heard the Black Series referred to as "the Jayco of off road trailers". I don't know if that's fair to either Black Series or Jayco, but it's interesting to see that most of the key Ember people are coming from Jayco. Ember does seem to be of higher quality than Jayco.
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That hitch weight is crazy and completely removes it from most MID size SUV towing for a camper that size. Otherwise it looks amazing.
To start with, WOW. This thing just jumped to my top 2 list. I love everything about it. Though it would be cool if they offered options with removable bunks to make different use of the area.
I personally like the bunks and the camp kitchen. The optional griddle is nice. Having the flexibility of moving the ladder around is a great idea. Also having the extra space to add more batteries is a plus. So you can upgrade the solar system if you want too.
The true queen is great to see. Even though it doesn't have a lot of storage, they make great use of the storage they have. To get more counter space for prep, they could add one of those fold down counter extensions. I would like to see under the sink that shelf fixed with an opening so you could put a trash can under there. It looked to have the room the shelf just needs to be changed some. A splash guard would be an easy thing to do.
The two way shades on all the windows is a good thing to have. Having the windows open is always a benefit.
The setup in the bathroom checks all the boxes, but I would like to see a shub as an option.
I didn't notice one is there a tv bracket outside? Maybe a rear hitch for a rack to have more outside storage.
But none of these small things would be a deterrent, it is great seeing something different in the camper sceen. Looking forward to seeing the different setups. Awesome job as always Josh. That's one sweet camper.
What's the #1?
@@JoshtheRVNerd I'd like to know #1 too!
@@JoshtheRVNerd I really like the mini lite, but the more I watch the video on the Ember I think it is now my #1 favorite. Man that thing is just fantastic.
First, my name is Ember, so I HAVE to love it! There is a lot to love about this camper! So nice to see a smaller RV with such rugged features. She's one hardy beast! It has been several years since I have had an RV, and my needs are very different now. I can't say I don't like the layout, and they have done a great job utilizing the compact space. I think it is wonderful to see a new dealership with innovative ideas AND the willingness to listen to customer/dealer feedback. I think that if Ember develops different floorplan options for this model, they will be quite successful! They have nailed the chassis and suspension, have a number of special added touches as standard features, and have created a camper that is built to last. All I think they really need to do is expand the flexibilty of their options, allowing people to make this camper fit their needs, whether it be bunks, an outdoor kitchen, an office space, extra cargo room with a bigger rear door, a changing room, etc. Making the rear area a flex space that buyers could choose options for would make this a winner for everyone! The majority of the work regarding changes shouldn't be too difficult to modify! Certainly not as difficult as adding length for a bigger kitchen space or increasing cargo capacity. I absolutely love this unit and can't wait to see the smaller ones, as that is more of what we are looking for when it comes to weight and price. Great job Ember! Thank you for doing such a wonderful job showing us this new camper, Josh! Congrats on being the first dealership for Ember RVs!
If the bunk area could be in office with some extra kitchen pantry storage and that would be a perfect layout. For the dinette I prefer a dinofa... Assuming the bunk area is my office
Awesome camper! I would agree with placing the inverter controller inside. Also, I feel the solar prep should be moved by the battery disconnect instead of next to the water hookups. Last thing, I wish they would've kept the cords in the shelves over the bed like they had when you first reviewed them. Great to see y'all finally get some of these great looking campers!
Add: 2 -30# LP, Lock on Utility cab, ShowerMiser!!, and as every body else indicated more galley counter! Dump the bed sky light/window - add a quite fan.
Showermiser is actually standard. Apparently it just didn't make the very initial run of these. Appreciate the time/ideas!
Don't need the bunks, but I would LOVE to be able to put dog crates & all the leashes, bowls, blankets, & all the other doggie stuff in that space. I bought my 1st camper because of traveling to shows with my dogs. I don't show any longer but always take them camping with me. Many people camp with pets & if an RV company would do a little research into what dog owners need/want in an RV design, that'd be so appreciated!
As a dog camper myself I appreciate this
Love the suspension concept. Will they be making anything with two axles, and bigger, without bunks?
Yes, Yes, and Yes :)
I had the same question! Two axles, higher GVWR, and a bed that is rotated to a North/South orientation and we're buyers!
I would be interested in the same . No bunks dual axle
@@JoshtheRVNerd yep, we talked about this on the debut video about a month ago. Glad to hear they are listening (and engineers are working 24/7 to design-build).
They have packed an amazing amount of functionality into such a small trailer. I bet the two "axle", longer, heavier trailer will be something special. That will be, as you say, the "live off the grid away from the government camper". We live and boondock fulltime in a 5th wheel with 600AH of lithium and 1,200W of solar. We don't even bother to carry a power cord anymore. Even with this setup, we haven't found a way to get away from the government. :-)
If the tanks have 12v heating and all the plumbing is enclosed in areas where heat is ducted to, then this will be a real four season trailer. There a a lot of other comments here saying the same thing, but I'll say it again. To be the almost perfect trailer for a couple, you would want a larger dual "axle" trailer with a queen size bed in the north/south orientation. Then remove the bunk beds and use that space to give more room for the kitchen cooktop, counter space, and a small pantry. I still think manufacturers should build trailers with an option to have no dinette so the user can fill that area to fit their specific needs. Someone may fill the space with foldable chairs and tables that can also be used outside, or maybe recliners, or maybe more room for pets, etc., etc. A fixed in place dinette has only one use and is more difficult to repair as it wears out over the years. At least this dinette looks like it could be easily removed. I'm also curious to learn more about the specs on the Curt suspension, hubs, wheels and tires. Overall, they are hitting it out of the ballpark with this first model.
I think they’re going to keep evolving exactly how people are wanting them. Eager to see where they focus updates
Another thought for the Li batteries. Add a "long extended three season" option by offering the Battle Borns with the optional internal heated battery. It will allow operation to a battery internal 0 degrees F. Make the battery box insulated to help with road heat and extreme cold temps. A 120 receptacle in the box for the help of a 60 watt trouble light if nothing else. LOVE this trailer!!!
They have it built so you could go battery crazy if you want OR repurpose those spaces for storage
First: an amazing new camper from a promising new company. What a great build with awesome features.
Critically: why is this designed in a way that prevents the installation of almost all current WDH/Sway Bar set ups? That seems, well, downright dangerous. I'm curious if Ember has a response to this. With such a heavy tongue weight a WDH is almost a necessity. Ember, what say you?
I’ll have to bounce that idea off them and see what they have to say
I Love Love this Ember RV, can’t wait to see more. I know this one will be my favorite. Great pick Josh. It would be nice to know the price of this RV with your review.
For pricing I put a link in the description to our website. pricing changes regularly. So if I actually put a price in this video it would already be outdated at this time. Possibly significantly.
The links to our site provide current pricing instead of what it happened it be when I posted it (which most people don’t think to check)
It's great. I love the idea to bend the lower bunk to be used as storage or Hanguing closet. But it's a keeper. No dinet, jack knife sofa with a free table preferred. Love the sky/ Moonroof 😍🙌.
So many things here... First off, I do love that this model has a rectangular shower pan and not a radius, but still maintains good space in the bathroom,for such a small camper. The fact that they didnt forget drawers, holy cow at the big name brand models the have no drawers. The baggage door or cargo door, (whatever you want to call it) on the back is a great thing, but I do agree, some hold down points in that area would be nice. Options for a couch without a dinette and options for the outside kitchen and to delete one or both of the bunks would just take this over the top. This thing really checks a lot of boxes and with some small changes could check a few more for almost anyone looking for a true off grid, off the beaten path, family camper.
Oh yes! I would love to see the bunks gone. I’m a quilter and they don’t make Rvs for us. Also this little camper has more drawers than my Jayco.
Yes! Office or storage space when bunks are not in use!
I’m nitpicking, but USB-C would have made this thing perfect. USB is antiquated.
Man if that’s the worst we can say then i’d say they’re doing well. Maybe next year for Festivus we’ll see the update ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Even though this model is too small for my likes, I do love the skylight and yes, I would like the bunks to be removable so I could turn it into storage or have a small desk. Also love the sturdy stairs! Hate the bouncy ones! The noise dampening windows would be wonderful! The safe on the door is a plus for sure. They made use of every available inch, didn't they? I would also prefer no dinette and instead a counter with storage underneath with a couple bar stools for dining. A booth just takes up too much valuable floor space in my opinion. It looks like they went over and above in their first model. It looks built to last for sure. Oh, the attached wheel chocks! Genius!
The noise reducing on the windows is truly impressive
Ember has gotten so many things right in here, I don't know where to start. Love the bathroom, the "night light" and the cargo passthru!
Oh I know it.. that's why this took me like 45 minutes lol
I spent so much time recording it went dark on me. Thankfully had the outside recorded FIRST lol :)
FANTABULOUS! LOVE those "Nightshades"! LOL This is perfect but yes I would get rid of bunks & get a stackable W/D, MIGHT get rid of sink in bathroom get a giant shower with a seat in it? OR deep tub/shower. MAYBE u shaped dinette with floating removable tables, but if I couldn't do ANY of that I still like it enough to take it like it is. Your passion for your work is not only admirable, but so refreshing!! THANK YOU for another enjoyable educational video! NOW list is up to 5/6? LOL
Yes, having the option to remove bunks would be awesome! It would make this trailer so much more flexible (keep only one bed at the back and add storage, convert that area into an office, etc.)
I still think those wheel chocks are an amazing idea. I might try seeing if something like bicycle handlebar grips could be shoved on the end both for a nicer grip and to make them slightly more visible and less shin-bruising, although it might be tough with the square tubing.
I like this strategy for the roof-access ladder. I want something that is with the trailer in my campsite, not just available when at home, but also want it secured to the trailer so I don't feel like it's going to slip off when on iffy footing in camp. This approach appears to meet those needs just as well as a permanently-mounted one, so that's cool.
The hitch weight on this is definitely a bit of an oof. That bumps this into a different class of tow vehicles than I'm hoping for, much like the problem with tongue-heavy-when-empty small toy haulers I've been looking at. I'll be curious to see what weights come in like for the slideless 190MDB version. (Side note on that: Is it just me, or looking at the floorplan diagram does it look like there could totally be enough room to expand the kitchen a bit wider towards the bed and easily accomodate an oven option on that one? The only thing there is the TV, so you could shove some counter space under that.)
Like everyone else I'm a bit scared to see what the price comes out to be...
Bicycle grip is an interesting idea…
@@JoshtheRVNerd Bright colors orange Bicycle like grip easy on hands or slide tube handle with pin so push handle in and will be same distant as tires
There are just so many features to appreciate on this trailer. From the outside propane and battery box, ladder is excellent idea with two latching points and the inside is built for comfort. For a true off road camper this is sweet! Makes me want to buy a new tow vehicle. Can't wait to see the 17ft models!
I would love to be able to maybe take the bunks out when its just my wife and I traveling so I could store my Mt. bike (maybe a bike rack of some sort of accessory) kind of like the van bike storage everyone is doing.
Multifunctional items is key in a smaller space
I want one. Ditch the bunks add office & storage wardrobe. TV placement is bad. That’s all.
I’m not in the market (already have an RV), but Josh is so knowledgeable, so trustworthy, so funny, and so frank that were I in the market, I’d coordinate with him and fly out for the purchase. He’s earned my loyalty and deep appreciation. Ember chose well.
Wow thank you!!
Remove bunks and increase kitchen area. Add an oven. It would be a true couples trailer.
I would love to have the bunk space used for more storage space & office space.😊❤️
Took the words right out of my fingers. 🤪 I concur. I’d love to see a couples version.
"Words out of my fingers" got me lol'ing here
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I’d love for them to get it tested to have data so it’s ‘proven’ 🤓
Not to mention the 5th Wheel style, centralized, control center; as you don’t see this on travel trailers‼️😊
Small critique Josh, laser CUT, not laser ETCHED. Etching changes the surface, laser cut actually removes material. But love your energy and thoroughness in your reviews.
I love it! What I think they could possibly offer or look into concerning the bunks... Keep the bottom bed exactly how it is, but get rid of the top bunk and add some more storage space... OR get rid of both bunks to extend the kitchen space. Overall, this camper looks fantastic and I'm excited about it for sure. They did a great job with the tank sizes too! Great video!
Ty!!