Yes. Went on two trips in a wagoneer and grand wagoneer. You can bet if I had their asking price I'd be in one for dam sure over ANY three row full sized SUV. Incredible ride and inside environment. And then a massive V8. Doesn't get better
Imagine paying $115k for this and waiting in the same waiting room for repairs as someone who paid $30k for their vehicle. Anything over $80k people want to feel a little extra appreciation when it comes to the buying experience, service, and overall greeting at the dealership. Jeep totally dropped the ball on that part too!!!
That's why you get a Cayenne; nothing in their lineup is less than $60k. They furnish you a loaner vehicle for those times when you can not bother to wait.
I like the grand wagoneer! I just don’t like the styling of the 3rd row window makes it look tacky! It should not exceed no more than $15,000 more than the top wagoneer
Anybody that blows 123K on a wagoneer that has known electrical issues needs to have their head examined and committed. The Dodge Hornet is worth 27K at best. Dodge, jeep and Chrysler make overpriced junk with high depreciation.
BMW SUV owner here, and I can tell you that it is much nicer on the inside and will whip on this suv in HP. Stock my x5 does 0-60 in 4 seconds and after the tune I’m running 3.4 to 60.
People are always gossiping about the segment leader’s profit margins *(gm)* but nobody talks about this monstrosity of a deal. Even the Wagoneer is $20,000 overpriced. You’d have to really want one to buy a Grand Wagoneer. I agree, Jeep has lost their minds. They are not a luxury brand and you certainly don’t become one over night. This is the same company that went from charging $50k for a V6 Durango to $100,000 Durango simply because they dropped their ancient supercharged V8 under the hood. Stellantis CLEARLY has the best profits on purchases.
@@Bishop-ci4mc I agree but they refuse to invest in Chrysler and bring their actual luxury brand up market in order to compete with other established luxury marques.
It’s a very nice Jeep, but for a 100k is just insane! The other day I was talking with a guy who worked at enterprise, he told me how they recently bought a few new Wagoneers from the dealership and ALL of them had problems. One customer folded the seats down and they got stuck without any manual override pull them back up. They had to send it right back to dealer to fix it.
Thatd not a jeep jeep been dead more chrysler stellantis canadian Mexican made B's 😂😂😂 they having problems already with that hurricane engine my boss is leasing one and said its hot garbage will be getting rid of it for a benz truck
So they threw this sh$tbox together with hay and bailing wire put a Macintosh audio system in it and the audiophiles act like its manna from heaven, I can retrofit my 99 accord with a Macintosh audio system too, and save about 100 grand.
That’s why 2/3s sold are plain wagoneers ….. …. I’m budget conscious… So ALL of them are out of MY price range and more vehicle than I would ever need.
The Soviet Lada Niva was a bastard Fiat that cost the equivalent of 14K USD today. Up the labor wages about 10 X and here we have a 70K USD Fiat engineered Jeep.
@tlitesworld It's Nice , that Old School just had so much Character ! I had a 16 and a 20 Challenger , they were nice but not like one Back In The Day!
No thanks! I'd rather have gently used Lexus from the last ten years. They can keep those rolling shtboxes even for 50k (low class trim) to 70k (high falutin' trim) they are still way overpriced.
The only Grand Wagoneer I would take is the one with the worlds best audio system, MCINTOSH. That is a steal since the system is $20,000 alone and worth every penny. The wagoneer however was the worst vehicle I ever worked on in my life.
@tlitesworld best stereo I've heard was McIntosh. Was a $25,000 home stereo with A/D/S speakers. Pushing 2000w yet sound was so clear you could talk to the person next to you with no problem. I have heard thousands of stereos over 58 years but the McIntosh kicked their ass.
😂😂😂😂😂 love the adlib, plus you telling the truth about those prices. They either gonna lower them, or they will exist under new management. Something has to give with Stellantis! And jeep isn't a luxury car. Even though they cost more than Denalis
Saw a video about a week ago, some poor sap had a new Grand Wagoneer with less than a hundred miles (77 to be exact) and already had to have it towed twice. Stellantis builds garbage.
Bro my sister and bro and law got a Grand Wagoneer last year. $115k…. Don’t get me wrong it IS super nice and the features are just as good as some of the high end luxury brands. Idk man for $115k I really need to see a Mercedes, BMW, or other high end logo
I’m not dissing their car I’m giving my honest opinion and speaking the truth about their vehicles! They always say free publicity is always good! They think they have the best prices around! They like me because they get called asking for vehicles that were in my videos
Listen, I'm not here to defend Stellantis or Jeep, but, let's keep it real. You got a bunch of people who make $60k or less complaining about the price of a $100k truck as if it was made with them in mind. Lol. The truck was obviously an attempt to compete with more luxurious vehicles like Cadillac or Mercedes. They priced it out at over $100k and you think they were trying to target Wal-Mart shoppers? Lol. Let's be honest with ourselves. Now, I do think they over estimated their ability to compete in the luxury car category. The Jeep brand isn't necessarily synonymous with high end luxury. However, I think it competes well against other trucks in its class. But I'm tired of hearing people with little to no money complain about things that are obviously out of their reach as if those things were intended for them.
You do know I can easily buy a Wagoneer 😂 do your research before you come for me 😂 the Wagoneer is trash 🗑️ it’s a recall machine! Engine is unreliable, they should have kept offering the 392 engine option instead of getting rid of it after one year! Jeep will never be able to compete as luxury because it really only sells wranglers all the other models barely break even😂 why do think the Wagoneer is one of the worst selling vehicles in the world as well as the worst in its class 😂 it’s trash I would never buy a Wagoneer nor would I recommend a unreliable recall machine that has subpar quality and luxury in my opinion but the numbers agree with me! Nice try play boy NOT😂
@tlitesworld @tlitesworld one, did you end your comment with "not"? Lol, as someone who grew up in the 90s, I appreciate the throwback joke. Two, I wasn't necessarily talking about you as much as I was talking about people in the comments. Three, we can agree to disagree on the truck itself. I'm buying my second one as we speak.
do you consider the wagoneer a luxury suv?
The Wagoneer is a premium 3-row family SUV for adults in each row, & the Grand Wagoneer is a luxury SUV for adults in each row
@@tlitesworld It's luxury , not Premium Luxury !
Not just NO...but HELL NO!!!
Yes. Went on two trips in a wagoneer and grand wagoneer. You can bet if I had their asking price I'd be in one for dam sure over ANY three row full sized SUV. Incredible ride and inside environment. And then a massive V8. Doesn't get better
@ they don’t offer the v8 anymore my friend
If I'm ever looking to buy an SUV that costs as much as my house, I'm not even slowing down at the Jeep dealer on the way to Lexus or Mercedes.
Well said! Big fax why would I pay for a Jeep when I can get a super nice Mercedes for the same price with better quality
The Lexus LX is an embarrassment for the segment. Nothing beats the *gm* triplets at those price points.
Too big of a vehicle not to be V8 in my opinion
I agree, but I do believe the first GEN they came out of the first year did offer the 392 motor if I’m not mistaken
OMG, where are all the people who love to overpay for cars with cheap Chinese-made plastics that break within a few short years?
The Wagoneers is made from Chinese parts. I didn’t know that.
Few years LOL??? Try a few degrees below 30, plastics become very brittle due to blow molding.
Wagoneer is not that grand
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 facts 😀
I’ll get a used Denali and keep a big stack in my pocket too.
Good thinking
They are nice but that price is to much for the biggest majority of people.
I agree
Imagine paying $115k for this and waiting in the same waiting room for repairs as someone who paid $30k for their vehicle. Anything over $80k people want to feel a little extra appreciation when it comes to the buying experience, service, and overall greeting at the dealership. Jeep totally dropped the ball on that part too!!!
Good point
That's why you get a Cayenne; nothing in their lineup is less than $60k. They furnish you a loaner vehicle for those times when you can not bother to wait.
@ are they any good?
It's stupid they made two cars with the same name that look alike. I thought that they learned when they had the cherokee and grand cherokee.
Good point
As Jimmy once said the Price Is Too Damn High lol 😂
😂 stellantis cant get right
This crap is insane.
Over 100k for a jeep?
I can't even keep up with inflation...
I aint buying a damn thing anytime soon
Nor am I
I like the grand wagoneer! I just don’t like the styling of the 3rd row window makes it look tacky! It should not exceed no more than $15,000 more than the top wagoneer
I think it should be 80,000 tops. I like that it’s got a sunroof in the back for the third row though.
@ true, also have more horses than the majority of suv in its class to
Anybody that blows 123K on a wagoneer that has known electrical issues needs to have their head examined and committed. The Dodge Hornet is worth 27K at best. Dodge, jeep and Chrysler make overpriced junk with high depreciation.
Great points my friend 👍
BMW SUV owner here, and I can tell you that it is much nicer on the inside and will whip on this suv in HP. Stock my x5 does 0-60 in 4 seconds and after the tune I’m running 3.4 to 60.
How much horsepower
@@tlitesworld620hp and 650 torque. 22 x5 M50i. Stock is 523hp and 586 torque.
People are always gossiping about the segment leader’s profit margins *(gm)* but nobody talks about this monstrosity of a deal. Even the Wagoneer is $20,000 overpriced. You’d have to really want one to buy a Grand Wagoneer. I agree, Jeep has lost their minds. They are not a luxury brand and you certainly don’t become one over night.
This is the same company that went from charging $50k for a V6 Durango to $100,000 Durango simply because they dropped their ancient supercharged V8 under the hood. Stellantis CLEARLY has the best profits on purchases.
You make some good points
@@tlitesworld you’re fine as hell btw. You have X?🔥💨
This should’ve been a large Chrysler SUV Luxury
@@Bishop-ci4mc I agree but they refuse to invest in Chrysler and bring their actual luxury brand up market in order to compete with other established luxury marques.
Congratulations on hitting your 14k subscriber.Moving on up🤣🤣
Appreciate you, my friend. I just now noticed that when you said it.😂
It’s a very nice Jeep, but for a 100k is just insane! The other day I was talking with a guy who worked at enterprise, he told me how they recently bought a few new Wagoneers from the dealership and ALL of them had problems. One customer folded the seats down and they got stuck without any manual override pull them back up. They had to send it right back to dealer to fix it.
It’s a very problematic vehicle
Thatd not a jeep jeep been dead more chrysler stellantis canadian Mexican made B's 😂😂😂 they having problems already with that hurricane engine my boss is leasing one and said its hot garbage will be getting rid of it for a benz truck
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Might as well get the Cadillac Escalade V 2023 lol
Facts
You foolish enough to buy this you better have the tow truck on speed dial.😂
😂
So they threw this sh$tbox together with hay and bailing wire put a Macintosh audio system in it and the audiophiles act like its manna from heaven, I can retrofit my 99 accord with a Macintosh audio system too, and save about 100 grand.
😂 appreciate the insight my friend
I went to my local Jeep dealer, saw their prices, and laughed my ass off! WTF IS THAT COMPANY SMOKING? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂 they smoking greed
They ain’t soooo gggrrrraaaaaannnnddd. 😂
😂 Grand Canyon high
@ 😂
That’s why 2/3s sold are plain wagoneers ….. …. I’m budget conscious… So ALL of them are out of MY price range and more vehicle than I would ever need.
Good point
The Soviet Lada Niva was a bastard Fiat that cost the equivalent of 14K USD today. Up the labor wages about 10 X and here we have a 70K USD Fiat engineered Jeep.
Good point
Great content
Appreciate 🙏the support
Them big ass SUV’s and no V8 is crazy. Now just imagine if put a 392 or hellcat motor in the grand I beat they would be hard to find lol
The first year Grand Wagoneer offered a 392 engine
Key word! Junk.
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The leveling system doesn't allow exhaust to be recessed in bumper
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saw a similar video recently, where they directly compared it to a BMW and it's about 80% of the luxury with the reliability of a Fiat.
Reliability of a fiat is nasty work 😂
Those Jeeps have a hell of a stereo though.....
Is it good
RIP= grand Craponeers 😂
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liked and subd
Appreciate 🙏the support
No worries, they will wake up soon enough. When water is not available, your mouth get very dry.
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Inflation my brother 😂, it’s priced right 😂🎉❤
Definitely not priced right
That’s major work $110k for a jeep and the Cadillac is around the same price if not more
Give me the Cadillac
@ I take the caddy also hate to say but probably more reliable
I like that series 2 interior 😮
I like the series 2 interior as well
That top of the line Wagoneer was "Cold" Back In The Day !
@@EricEanes what about this one?
@tlitesworld It's Nice , that Old School just had so much Character ! I had a 16 and a 20 Challenger , they were nice but not like one Back In The Day!
It's not worth it too many cheap parts
Facts
It looks like a 2005 suburban. I think they got the wrong idea of retro styling
😂
No thanks! I'd rather have gently used Lexus from the last ten years. They can keep those rolling shtboxes even for 50k (low class trim) to 70k (high falutin' trim) they are still way overpriced.
Way overpriced
I wouldn’t buy a Jeep.
Why not
The only Grand Wagoneer I would take is the one with the worlds best audio system, MCINTOSH. That is a steal since the system is $20,000 alone and worth every penny. The wagoneer however was the worst vehicle I ever worked on in my life.
Is the sound system that good?
@tlitesworld best stereo I've heard was McIntosh. Was a $25,000 home stereo with A/D/S speakers. Pushing 2000w yet sound was so clear you could talk to the person next to you with no problem. I have heard thousands of stereos over 58 years but the McIntosh kicked their ass.
😂😂😂😂😂 love the adlib, plus you telling the truth about those prices. They either gonna lower them, or they will exist under new management. Something has to give with Stellantis! And jeep isn't a luxury car. Even though they cost more than Denalis
Exactly!! 👍 I appreciate the support
Saw a video about a week ago, some poor sap had a new Grand Wagoneer with less than a hundred miles (77 to be exact) and already had to have it towed twice. Stellantis builds garbage.
Wow 😮 only 77miles
Bro my sister and bro and law got a Grand Wagoneer last year. $115k…. Don’t get me wrong it IS super nice and the features are just as good as some of the high end luxury brands. Idk man for $115k I really need to see a Mercedes, BMW, or other high end logo
That's a $2000 a month payment ish, for a freaking jeep. No thanks
Big facts
Luxury jeep is an oxymoron
Facts
That’s not even the best one 😂😂😂 they got one with more screens in it than that, 💯
What’s the max screens
For those prices why not just make the whole thing a rolling screen.
No rear seat entertainment
Nope
The rear seat entertainment is you are riding in a vehicle that someone owes three times what it's worth
1990 my first house was 60k
Oh wow!
Jeep is not a luxury brand
I agree ☝️
Them wagoneers way over price i rather have the track hawk
You and me both 👍
Track hawk could be had for 90k or less a few years ago
@fartdonkey8290 and alot of maintenance issues...outdated and a headache 😕
I didn't,t hear your trademark " fart catcher" seats
None of them had fart seats 😂
Not worth 50. The model that eneded Jeep.
It’s definitely looking bad for jeep
The dealerships dont notice you walking around dissing their cars? Lol.
I’m not dissing their car I’m giving my honest opinion and speaking the truth about their vehicles! They always say free publicity is always good! They think they have the best prices around! They like me because they get called asking for vehicles that were in my videos
@tlitesworld Well I'm glad because I enjoy the videos!
I disagree from what im seeing in this video that thing is luxury i got a s 500 and that jeep is just as nice as this
It was definitely nice but not for that price
Good werrk
Appreciate you
They realized that Neanderthals have money and those are the ones that will pay 80-120k… lol bless the children
Are they rich in the Neanderthals 🤔
Listen, I'm not here to defend Stellantis or Jeep, but, let's keep it real. You got a bunch of people who make $60k or less complaining about the price of a $100k truck as if it was made with them in mind. Lol. The truck was obviously an attempt to compete with more luxurious vehicles like Cadillac or Mercedes. They priced it out at over $100k and you think they were trying to target Wal-Mart shoppers? Lol. Let's be honest with ourselves. Now, I do think they over estimated their ability to compete in the luxury car category. The Jeep brand isn't necessarily synonymous with high end luxury. However, I think it competes well against other trucks in its class. But I'm tired of hearing people with little to no money complain about things that are obviously out of their reach as if those things were intended for them.
You do know I can easily buy a Wagoneer 😂 do your research before you come for me 😂 the Wagoneer is trash 🗑️ it’s a recall machine! Engine is unreliable, they should have kept offering the 392 engine option instead of getting rid of it after one year! Jeep will never be able to compete as luxury because it really only sells wranglers all the other models barely break even😂 why do think the Wagoneer is one of the worst selling vehicles in the world as well as the worst in its class 😂 it’s trash I would never buy a Wagoneer nor would I recommend a unreliable recall machine that has subpar quality and luxury in my opinion but the numbers agree with me! Nice try play boy NOT😂
@tlitesworld @tlitesworld one, did you end your comment with "not"? Lol, as someone who grew up in the 90s, I appreciate the throwback joke. Two, I wasn't necessarily talking about you as much as I was talking about people in the comments. Three, we can agree to disagree on the truck itself. I'm buying my second one as we speak.
lol no one cares what you drive. Save and invest for your future 😂
Huh 🤔
Whats wrong with this guy and the way he talk
What’s wrong with you! All that crazy nonsense you are typing
Like seriously don’t you see the way he talk on this channel.to do this video you don’t need to talk like that aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa