On Monday 3 Aug while coming home pulling the 5th wheel we got a fast leak alarm on a trailer tire. Psi went from 125 to 106 in a matter of 2 miles. We found a side road to pull onto and checked the tire in question. The rubber and metal hybrid valve was leaking at the rubber part. The last tire failure before we purchased the TST cost over $5000 and 4 weeks at the repair shop. The investment of this system is priceless. We are coming up on the second battery change on the sensors. Don’t forget to order the seals so you can change them when changing the batteries.
I learned the hard way that if you are not using internal sensors your valve stems have a high chance of failing. After a blowout, I changed from rubber to metal stems - after reading your post, I guess I'll trash the whole thing and go to internal sensors - far cheaper and safer since I paid over $200 to change the rubber stems after one blew out and the other three showed damage signs.
We got ours from you at the Tampa show. Can’t tell you how much better I feel having them on our rig. We have 8 flow thru on the Phaeton and 4 cap style on the Jeep in tow. I feel confident that if there is a tire issue, the TST will let us know.
And if there isn't an issue,TST may cause one. My 4 cap sensors caused one blowout when the rubber valve stem failed at the base. The other 3 were near failure. If you have metal stems, you may be OK, but if you use the sensors on rubber stems, a failure is likely.
I am still enjoying my B&W TST 507 system and I can easily get two driving days out of it before needing to top it off as you say. If I am driving late at night the back lit display makes it read clearly. If I pick up a screw on a trailer tire I instantly can tell it by glancing at the display. I can watch the PSI on that tire drop one PSI at a time and then the temp slowly starts to rise, by then I have located the nearest rest stop with the GPS or exit ramp to get it a quick look-see. My aluminum rims are getting a wear mark from the cap sensor with my rubber valve stems, but these rims won't accept metal valve stems without a special spacer due to the collar being in the way. The service writer for my new trailer tires is recommending his hybrid valve stems and showed one to me that it may offer more rigidity for the stability I am looking for. I will find out next week, we head out on the road June 1st for the shakedown cruise after a winter of hosting snowbirds at our campground.
Some of the hybrid valve stems can be more rigid than the rubber one. I have also seen some hybrids that seem to be just like rubber ones. I am guessing he is recommending the ones that will be a bit more rigid and it sounds like that will be better for you.
Very informative and well done video! I am considering this system and have a question. We have metal valve stems and I have learned they can use the "flow through" caps. I just wonder how sturdy are the "flow through" caps? I mean, sometimes when adding air to a big rig tire, with a hundred pounds of pressure, you have to really press hard to put air in the valve stem. Are the flow through caps really stout/rigid enough to take that sort of inflator chuck pressure? Thank you!
Good video. Question please. I have the 507 regular cap sensor. One of the caps isn't registering on monitor. I just tried changing the battery in the cap and it didn't fix the problem, I then tried changing positions with the proposed "bad" sensor and that didn't work either. So my problem is with the monitor right? And if so, how can I fix it? Thank you for your time.
This seems to be a bad sensor unfortunately. We recommend you register your product with TST if you havent already and then initiate a warranty request with TST. They have asked that all warranty related issues be through them.
@@Technorv thank you for responding. I bought my TST system used from someone, so not expecting any kind of warranty situation. Just curious if there was a fix of any kind, actually I already figured it out, but thank you anyway.
Hi 👋 we bought the tst from you guys few months back. I have a question maybe u can help. On my travel trailer sticker it saids for tires to be set 80psi cold. I keep them at 78. But where should I set my max on tst and my low. Thank u
Unless you have been weighed and you know that you are at the correct weight on each tire position for 78, I would recommend you run them at 80 psi cold. Underinflation is the death of a tire and if you don't know your weight, you should go with the max. With that being said, I would set your low at 10% below ( at 80 it would be 72) and the high should be 20-25% above (at 80 it would be 96-100). We set ours at 20% above unless we are going to be driving in a very hot environment (think Arizona in summer) since this can drive psi up above 20% without indicating serious issues. I hope this helps!
Thank u so much I would go ahead and change my setting and try to get my rig weight. My next item to buy is power surge. Thanks 🙏 you guys are the best 🤘
I believe (from another one of your videos) that you mounted the repeater in your battery compartment. I also have a Tiffin Phaeton (2018 40IH). How did you get 12 volt power in the battery compartment to the repeater? And did you mount the repeater in the compartment or underneath? TIA
Hi Tom, I just connected the repeater directly to the chassis batteries in that compartment. I also mounted the repeater on the wall of the inside of the compartment with sticky tape. I hope this helps. Eric
The great thing about TST is that once you buy the 6-sensor kit, adding sensors later doesn't increase the total cost, so you can add the additional 4 sensors you need for your truck at a later date while still protecting your fifth wheel now for about $200 less. You could also save $25 by going with the monochrome monitor instead of the color. Finally, we do run exclusive sales on TST for our newsletter list, so you could sign up for that on our home page and wait for a good deal. 🙂 Hope this helps!
Quick question. I am looking at buying this product to install on my tow vehicle (Ram 2500) and 5th wheel (Cougar 24RDS). Once the sensors are installed on the tires, do you need to have all the tire balanced again, especially on the tow vehicle since it will most likely ride at higher speed when unhitched?
Do you have a video showing how to move tpm from Rv to trailer We bought non flow 6 for Rv But want to change RV to flow thru and use the ones we replace to the pull trailer We are moving 2 front tpm to trailer and putting new flow thru on front
Hi Ann, you would basically need to re-program the TST system following the same process when you originally programmed it. WHen you reprogram you would just program the sensors where you would like. You should have recieved a programming video from us when you purchased your system.
Hey Ann, the best way to do this is to delete all sensors from the monitor and start over with your new configuration. We do have plenty of videos to help with this: ua-cam.com/play/PLBn0T22m2v50ESa-iFsCRJTTTg9u4i8Vy.html
I deleted the two then programmed them for trailer and programmed two new ones for front Didn’t do anything with original four on rear of RV and that worked great 😊
Hi Mary. If your system was bought this year, the tool is used to tighten the hex nuts that came with the kit. It fits behind the sensor. Here is a video showing how they work: ua-cam.com/video/OmVb3nvidgk/v-deo.html The video shows the flow through sensor, but it works the same with the cap.
Yep, cost me $50 each to have the wheels removed, the stems replaced, the tire rebalanced, and the wheels reinstalled. Hard to find metal valve stems - had to order them. Do not buy this product - get internal sensors - cheaper once you consider install and they are not likely to cause a blowout.
Do I misunderstand what a full-time RVer is? He's in the office and introducing a product he sells. How could he be a full-time RVer? Anyway, nice presentation!!!
We consider ourselves full time RVers since we sold our home and live in our RV full time on the road. When we are in Mobile to see our family, we do check in on the office from time to time. Hope this helps explain it!
This device is dangerous and should be avoided. I purchased mine at an FMCA rally and was told I could screw it onto the valves stem, exactly is the man says in the video. In the fine print, it tells you you have to have a metal valve stem, but the person who sold it to me told me I could just put on a metal stem the next time I change tires. This wasn’t entirely true. I changed tires and they had no metal valve stems. I tried a second tire shop and they also had no metal valve stems. When I had my first blowout the Aaa Road service guy glanced at the trailer and said oh your tire pressure monitor has ripped your valve to pieces. Was the TMS destroyed the original rubber valve stem and caused the blowout I eventually found a place that would valve stems that I ordered. It cost me an additional $200 to put on the stem. These devices are unsafe. If you want to tire pressure monitor purchase one that uses an internal sensor that is mounted inside the wheel safely free of damage. The overall cost is lower and they are much safer. A second point, TPM cannot be seen in daylight. Even if you purchase their extra cost poorly designed sunshade, the unit is polarized and if you wear polarized sunglasses while you driving in the daytime, the unit is completely black. Finally, while thr Alarm is some value. The unit only shows you one time. If you get in your RV and run your departure checklist and get to the line that says check your TMS it’s not easy to do. The idea of a TPMS is excellent, but these units are a blowout waiting to happen
We are sorry you had a bad experience with your system. What should have been said to you was if you purchase the Caps you can install those on both rubber and metal stems. The Flow thru models can only be used on solid metal stems. Also, another thing to mention is valve extenders on a rubber stem is a bad idea if you are wanting to use your TPMS. It can be too much stress on the base of the rubber valve stems.
@@Technorv Nonsense!!!! I did not purchase flow-thru sensors. One blowout and 3 failing valve stems. These are suitable only for metal stems - and the jury is still out on them being worth anything at all. Shame on you. You will eventually get sued - as you should - for selling a knowingly dangerous produce. As the AAA technician and the tire company said, "we see blowouts like this all the time."
Stuart, again we are sorry you had a bad experience with your system. As a company we would NEVER knowingly promote or sell anything that would damage or potentially harm someone. In fact, this product has saved thousands of our customers while traveling. I will bring up your statements to TST so they can investigate further. Thank you.
16-20 hrs only. I thought you were going to say days. The more money these pressure monitors cost, the less they seem to invest in battery technology.. Why pay more just keeps a wire plugged in more?
The monitor lasts for 16-20 hours of use. This can last for weeks or more for us, depending on how often we drive. Once you park, it will turn off in order to save the battery.
Hello Tom! This video was just showing the different types of system. I believe you were looking for another video we have. Check this out and see if this is what you need. ua-cam.com/video/JPv54k7Tr2k/v-deo.html
On Monday 3 Aug while coming home pulling the 5th wheel we got a fast leak alarm on a trailer tire. Psi went from 125 to 106 in a matter of 2 miles. We found a side road to pull onto and checked the tire in question. The rubber and metal hybrid valve was leaking at the rubber part. The last tire failure before we purchased the TST cost over $5000 and 4 weeks at the repair shop. The investment of this system is priceless. We are coming up on the second battery change on the sensors. Don’t forget to order the seals so you can change them when changing the batteries.
So glad you were able to get off the road without any damage! Thanks for sharing.
I learned the hard way that if you are not using internal sensors your valve stems have a high chance of failing. After a blowout, I changed from rubber to metal stems - after reading your post, I guess I'll trash the whole thing and go to internal sensors - far cheaper and safer since I paid over $200 to change the rubber stems after one blew out and the other three showed damage signs.
Love my system
Eric, Another great video. Received and setup our TST 507-C in less than 5min.
Great video,I received my system this week,can’t wait to install it
It's nice to feel safe! knowing that if you have a problem you got time which can keep your Panic level under control.👍
If you have rubber valve stems, this is likely to cause a problem in time - a problem you would not have had with internal sensors.
We got ours from you at the Tampa show. Can’t tell you how much better I feel having them on our rig. We have 8 flow thru on the Phaeton and 4 cap style on the Jeep in tow. I feel confident that if there is a tire issue, the TST will let us know.
Unless you have used them, you don't understand the peace of mind you get. Thanks for sharing!
And if there isn't an issue,TST may cause one. My 4 cap sensors caused one blowout when the rubber valve stem failed at the base. The other 3 were near failure. If you have metal stems, you may be OK, but if you use the sensors on rubber stems, a failure is likely.
I am still enjoying my B&W TST 507 system and I can easily get two driving days out of it before needing to top it off as you say. If I am driving late at night the back lit display makes it read clearly. If I pick up a screw on a trailer tire I instantly can tell it by glancing at the display. I can watch the PSI on that tire drop one PSI at a time and then the temp slowly starts to rise, by then I have located the nearest rest stop with the GPS or exit ramp to get it a quick look-see. My aluminum rims are getting a wear mark from the cap sensor with my rubber valve stems, but these rims won't accept metal valve stems without a special spacer due to the collar being in the way. The service writer for my new trailer tires is recommending his hybrid valve stems and showed one to me that it may offer more rigidity for the stability I am looking for. I will find out next week, we head out on the road June 1st for the shakedown cruise after a winter of hosting snowbirds at our campground.
Some of the hybrid valve stems can be more rigid than the rubber one. I have also seen some hybrids that seem to be just like rubber ones. I am guessing he is recommending the ones that will be a bit more rigid and it sounds like that will be better for you.
Good Job! You answer my questions and concern about the rubber stem. I didn't purchase the flow-thru system.
Glad I could help!
Very informative and well done video!
I am considering this system and have a question. We have metal valve stems and I have learned they can use the "flow through" caps. I just wonder how sturdy are the "flow through" caps? I mean, sometimes when adding air to a big rig tire, with a hundred pounds of pressure, you have to really press hard to put air in the valve stem. Are the flow through caps really stout/rigid enough to take that sort of inflator chuck pressure?
Thank you!
Absolutely we run them on our Class A RV and those tires take 110 PSI and we have zero problems.
Good video. Question please.
I have the 507 regular cap sensor. One of the caps isn't registering on monitor. I just tried changing the battery in the cap and it didn't fix the problem, I then tried changing positions with the proposed "bad" sensor and that didn't work either. So my problem is with the monitor right? And if so, how can I fix it?
Thank you for your time.
This seems to be a bad sensor unfortunately. We recommend you register your product with TST if you havent already and then initiate a warranty request with TST. They have asked that all warranty related issues be through them.
@@Technorv thank you for responding. I bought my TST system used from someone, so not expecting any kind of warranty situation.
Just curious if there was a fix of any kind, actually I already figured it out, but thank you anyway.
Hi 👋 we bought the tst from you guys few months back. I have a question maybe u can help. On my travel trailer sticker it saids for tires to be set 80psi cold. I keep them at 78. But where should I set my max on tst and my low. Thank u
Unless you have been weighed and you know that you are at the correct weight on each tire position for 78, I would recommend you run them at 80 psi cold. Underinflation is the death of a tire and if you don't know your weight, you should go with the max. With that being said, I would set your low at 10% below ( at 80 it would be 72) and the high should be 20-25% above (at 80 it would be 96-100). We set ours at 20% above unless we are going to be driving in a very hot environment (think Arizona in summer) since this can drive psi up above 20% without indicating serious issues. I hope this helps!
Thank u so much I would go ahead and change my setting and try to get my rig weight. My next item to buy is power surge. Thanks 🙏 you guys are the best 🤘
I believe (from another one of your videos) that you mounted the repeater in your battery compartment. I also have a Tiffin Phaeton (2018 40IH). How did you get 12 volt power in the battery compartment to the repeater? And did you mount the repeater in the compartment or underneath? TIA
Hi Tom, I just connected the repeater directly to the chassis batteries in that compartment. I also mounted the repeater on the wall of the inside of the compartment with sticky tape.
I hope this helps. Eric
I would love to get this soon for my fifth wheel, but the cost of almost $600 is a little high for the number of monitors I would need.
The great thing about TST is that once you buy the 6-sensor kit, adding sensors later doesn't increase the total cost, so you can add the additional 4 sensors you need for your truck at a later date while still protecting your fifth wheel now for about $200 less. You could also save $25 by going with the monochrome monitor instead of the color. Finally, we do run exclusive sales on TST for our newsletter list, so you could sign up for that on our home page and wait for a good deal. 🙂 Hope this helps!
Quick question. I am looking at buying this product to install on my tow vehicle (Ram 2500) and 5th wheel (Cougar 24RDS). Once the sensors are installed on the tires, do you need to have all the tire balanced again, especially on the tow vehicle since it will most likely ride at higher speed when unhitched?
Hi Gilles. You do not need to rebalance this after installing the sensors. They don't weigh enough. Thanks for asking!
Do you have a video showing how to move tpm from Rv to trailer
We bought non flow 6 for Rv
But want to change RV to flow thru and use the ones we replace to the pull trailer
We are moving 2 front tpm to trailer and putting new flow thru on front
Hi Ann, you would basically need to re-program the TST system following the same process when you originally programmed it. WHen you reprogram you would just program the sensors where you would like. You should have recieved a programming video from us when you purchased your system.
Hey Ann, the best way to do this is to delete all sensors from the monitor and start over with your new configuration. We do have plenty of videos to help with this: ua-cam.com/play/PLBn0T22m2v50ESa-iFsCRJTTTg9u4i8Vy.html
I deleted the two then programmed them for trailer and programmed two new ones for front
Didn’t do anything with original four on rear of RV and that worked great 😊
My sensor tightening tool doesn’t fit on the sensors. What am I supposed to use to tighten the cap sensors?
Hi Mary. If your system was bought this year, the tool is used to tighten the hex nuts that came with the kit. It fits behind the sensor. Here is a video showing how they work: ua-cam.com/video/OmVb3nvidgk/v-deo.html The video shows the flow through sensor, but it works the same with the cap.
Do you have to hook the repeater up directly to the battery or can it plug in somewhere?
You can mount the TST repeater anywhere you have 12V power.
Can you change the valve stem to be metal at a tire shop
You can! Your tire technician will be able to help you choose the right stems.
Yep, cost me $50 each to have the wheels removed, the stems replaced, the tire rebalanced, and the wheels reinstalled. Hard to find metal valve stems - had to order them.
Do not buy this product - get internal sensors - cheaper once you consider install and they are not likely to cause a blowout.
Do I misunderstand what a full-time RVer is? He's in the office and introducing a product he sells. How could he be a full-time RVer? Anyway, nice presentation!!!
We consider ourselves full time RVers since we sold our home and live in our RV full time on the road. When we are in Mobile to see our family, we do check in on the office from time to time. Hope this helps explain it!
Can you just have a travel trailer on the monitor and not your towing vehicle?
Absolutely!
This device is dangerous and should be avoided.
I purchased mine at an FMCA rally and was told I could screw it onto the valves stem, exactly is the man says in the video.
In the fine print, it tells you you have to have a metal valve stem, but the person who sold it to me told me I could just put on a metal stem the next time I change tires.
This wasn’t entirely true.
I changed tires and they had no metal valve stems.
I tried a second tire shop and they also had no metal valve stems.
When I had my first blowout the Aaa Road service guy glanced at the trailer and said oh your tire pressure monitor has ripped your valve to pieces.
Was the TMS destroyed the original rubber valve stem and caused the blowout
I eventually found a place that would valve stems that I ordered.
It cost me an additional $200 to put on the stem.
These devices are unsafe.
If you want to tire pressure monitor purchase one that uses an internal sensor that is mounted inside the wheel safely free of damage.
The overall cost is lower and they are much safer.
A second point, TPM cannot be seen in daylight. Even if you purchase their extra cost poorly designed sunshade, the unit is polarized and if you wear polarized sunglasses while you driving in the daytime, the unit is completely black.
Finally, while thr Alarm is some value. The unit only shows you one time. If you get in your RV and run your departure checklist and get to the line that says check your TMS it’s not easy to do.
The idea of a TPMS is excellent, but these units are a blowout waiting to happen
We are sorry you had a bad experience with your system. What should have been said to you was if you purchase the Caps you can install those on both rubber and metal stems. The Flow thru models can only be used on solid metal stems. Also, another thing to mention is valve extenders on a rubber stem is a bad idea if you are wanting to use your TPMS. It can be too much stress on the base of the rubber valve stems.
@@Technorv Nonsense!!!! I did not purchase flow-thru sensors. One blowout and 3 failing valve stems. These are suitable only for metal stems - and the jury is still out on them being worth anything at all.
Shame on you. You will eventually get sued - as you should - for selling a knowingly dangerous produce.
As the AAA technician and the tire company said, "we see blowouts like this all the time."
Stuart, again we are sorry you had a bad experience with your system. As a company we would NEVER knowingly promote or sell anything that would damage or potentially harm someone. In fact, this product has saved thousands of our customers while traveling.
I will bring up your statements to TST so they can investigate further. Thank you.
16-20 hrs only. I thought you were going to say days. The more money these pressure monitors cost, the less they seem to invest in battery technology.. Why pay more just keeps a wire plugged in more?
The monitor lasts for 16-20 hours of use. This can last for weeks or more for us, depending on how often we drive. Once you park, it will turn off in order to save the battery.
@@Technorv Thanks, for the enlightening information.
Completely useless video since I didn’t buy my unit from you. The important thing to know is how to program the sensors.
Hello Tom! This video was just showing the different types of system. I believe you were looking for another video we have. Check this out and see if this is what you need. ua-cam.com/video/JPv54k7Tr2k/v-deo.html