We just bought a 2022 Tiffin Wayfarer Class C and are in the process of deciding on a TPM. I love your video and it confirmed what I had already come to believe. BUT .... I'm just wondering if there is any updated info or new features for TST 507? Also, where is the best price and company to buy the unit. Thanks very much. JosieNurse
Hi JoAnne, congratulations on your new Tiffin! We do have an updated video on the TST and TireMinder which will be helpful in your decision. Here is the link:ua-cam.com/video/kitoKGnmduA/v-deo.html If you have any more questions, please let us know! If you choose to go with the TST, we do have a 10% off sale on TST through 3/14 when you use the code SHOP10 at checkout. We have a video on how to choose the right sensors as well, and it might be helpful as well. ua-cam.com/video/vIIqEbkD4fQ/v-deo.html
Yes, you are right! TST does have an internal sensor and can be used in place of and in conjunction with the external sensors and all report to the same monitor.
Eric, great comparison of the 2 products. Over the last 13 years I have owned both 2 sets of TireMinder and I am currently running TST for the last 4 years. The reasons I prefer TST is for the adjustable alarm settings, auto scroll, dependability, warranty and technical support. I have adjusted the alarms several times due to elevation and ambient temperature. The auto scroll is a must for me. All I have to do is glance over every 5 seconds to see what is happening with each tire. To date, TST is extremely dependable. In 4 years I had one issue that was quickly resolved with the manufacturer. With the TireMinder I had multiple problems and went through 2 set ups. Your assistance with technical support is priceless. One call or one email and you and Tami always respond and I thank you.
Hey Steve, glad you are loving the TST. We have had so many people that need the adjustable settings because of the different climates they go in and out of, and I cant imagine just having to suffer through a system alarming for nothing. Luckily that wont happen with the TST. Safe travels!
It really depends on your RV and tire. We made a video to help with this decision: ua-cam.com/video/vIIqEbkD4fQ/v-deo.html Check it out and let us know of you have any more questions. We personally use the flow through on our motorhome and caps on our Jeep, but we have metal valve stems on the motorhome.
We do not sell the Guta. Price is not the top thing we look at when comparing and selecting products for not only our RV, but also TechnoRV. The TST and TireMinder systems have both proven to be well made and reliable over the years, and we are happy to stand behind them both. We have found that some of the less expensive models on Amazon do not have the quality we look for in a TPMS, even though the price is attractive. You may spend more for a TST or TireMinder up front, but it will be a system that works well for many many years to come. In addition, they both have 3-year warranties, so you know the company stands behind them.
I just returned from a 3,000 mile trip using the TST color model. I have a 36' Winnebago pulling a car dolly and a Chrysler Sebering so a total of 10 sensors. I had my repeater ready to go and never needed it. Nice surprise. My wife and I really enjoyed the peace of mind that our older rv tires and the others were running at the proper pressure and temps.
Thanks, that's a very helpful comparison. I don't think you mentioned readability. How is the daytime readability of the color TST unit? Is it bright enough in bright light? Can the intensity be adjusted down at night? How is the nighttime readability of the LCD TST unit? Is it backlit? Is the backlight adjusted manually or automatically?
The TST color unit has good readability in daylight as long as the sun is't shining directly on it. As with an device, that would drown out the color. As far as nighttime, the screen is lit well plus with the back background, it is not so bright that it is distracting, It does have a auto dim though, but no manual dim switch.
Hi Jeff, This was a review of the Tire Minder A1A versus the TST. The A1A was the monitor unit that they displayed at this years Tampa RV Super Show so it is the most current model. We can see about looking at the other unit that they have but we are finding that RVers are steering away from App driven units because of the distracted driver laws. I don't have any experience with it so could not speak to it further than that, but I do appreciate your comment.
TechnoRV Thank you for your response. You are correct about the app driven product, however, I don’t see the difference between having my iPhone in a cradle with the tired monitoring screen active and monitoring vs the provided screen that TST and others provide. All are equally distracting because they are simply something extra that you have to look at while driving. Again, thanks for your response.
I've had a TST now for about three years. It works fine except for one glaring issue. When hooking up the trailer, it sometimes takes up to half an hour for the monitor to find a sensor.....this is not good while boondocking in BLM areas as the potential for tire failure is very high as I am leaving a campsite on a unmaintained road. Also, once I disconnect the trailer, it can take up to 45 minutes for the monitor to realize there is no trailer attached. I can be miles away from the trailer and it is still reporting the trailer tire parameters. If a wheel was to fall off, I wouldn't know it.
Hi Roy! It should not be taking that long for sensors to populate or to drop off if you aren't using them. When we turn our monitor on, it only takes 5 minutes or so for all sensors to start sending information. I would contact TST directly since you may be still in the 3-year warranty and let them know what is happening. Their number is (770) 889-9102.
I started out with the TireMinder and it did save me going around Ft. Worth TX, it gave me plenty of time to pull over. I saw the TST at the Open Range RV Owners Coming Home Rally 2 years ago and purchased the 507 Gray monitor (the color was not available yet), The next year the the color monitor was out and I purchased it. The reason I I changed TPMS were the same that you pointed out, the TST does not go to sleep and it scrolls through the tires and you can see each one without having to remove your hands from the wheel. I like the color monitor over the gray but it is sometimes a little hard to see the color depending on the sunlight. My vote is for the TST but any is better than none! As far as the TireMinder, I gave it to my Son in law for his family's TT. We are in the middle of a cross country, and Canada & Alaska trip and I check my 507 every day as we are driving (total mileage will be around 18,000 miles) ........Very good review even though some are suggesting that you chose the one you sell, I replaced my TM for the same reasons.!
@@Technorv I'm just putting an order in. It's in the cart. It's just one question about what I'm purchasing. I am getting 6 Flow sensors for my class A . The 4 cap sensors for my SUV It's included in the package ? Am I right?
When you are on the product page for the TST Flow Through Systems, you should have an option to add 4 cap sensors. If you do that, then yes, they will be in the order. Here is the link to the order page: www.technorv.com/tst-flow-thru-system-with-4-to-12-sensors/
If you look at the page near the picture, it asks how many flow thru sensors you would like. Put 6 in there. Then under that, it asks do you want any cap sensors. That is where you need to put 4 if you want 10 sensors in all - 6 flow thru and 4 caps. If you'd rather place a phone order, we'd be happy to do that for you Monday morning. 866-324-7915
In one of your replies you mentioned that TST has done some improvements since this video. Can you please provide the most up-to-date model number for the TST TPMS? Also, is there a particular TST models that might come with 10 mixed sensors (6 flow through and 4 cap)? Thank you
HI Ruth! Yes, TST has made some updates on the monitor. The added 2 spare tire positions and brightened the display. It is still considered the TST 507, but you would want to be sure you are buying the newest model and not from someone who is still selling the old monitor. Also, any TST 507 System you buy can handle both the flow thru and cap sensors on the same monitor. We use it with 6 flow thru sensors on our RV and 4 cap sensors on our Jeep. On this listing, you can mix and match your system: www.technorv.com/tst-flow-thru-system-with-4-to-12-sensors/ I hope this helps! If you have any more questions, just let me know.
The best defense against blowouts is a preventative like FlatOut trailer formula and a TST system to monitor. Yes they are compatible with external sensors.
Is there a preference on cap vs pass through on higher rated tires...I have G rated tires on my truck and fifth wheel. Would the pass through have an issue with the higher pressures?
HI Aaron. The only consideration between cap and flow through is whether your valve stem is metal or rubber. PSI doesn't make a difference with which one you use. Here is a video that Eric made to help people make the decision between cap and flow through: ua-cam.com/video/vIIqEbkD4fQ/v-deo.html
@@Technorv Thank you! My other question is there any analytics showing failure rates between the two styles? Does one fail more frequently than the other?
@@BigRedWight Not that we know of. Personally, we have not seen a failure rate higher on one type of sensor over the other. When used correctly and on the right type stem (flow through sensors on metal only), the sensors both work the same.
We are not familiar with RVI's Tire Patrol, but we would encourage you to look at the things we looked at in the this video and ask yourself the same questions no matter which system you are looking at. Safe travels!
We haven't had a chance to compare the TM77 yet, but have it on our list to do in the future. We chose the A1A because it was the unit they were selling at the Tampa RV SuperShow this year so we felt it was the most popular system for TireMinder at the time. The TST has been improved since this video as well, so we will start looking at doing more current comparisons soon. Thanks for commenting!
@TechnoRV, Great video. I am getting ready to retire and plan on extensive traveling and was wanting a tire monitoring system. One of the the things I am looking for for is something that has an APP since my wife and I have expensive smart phones and we even have a laptop and with the new trucks having an AC outlet it just makes since to multi-purpose as much as possible. Does anyone one have a system that uses an App or do you know if TST or TireMinder are working on an app??
Thanks, Bill! TireMinder now has a TPMS system that has an app that can display your tire information. TST is not currently exploring this option due to the many distracted driving laws that prohibit drivers from using or having phones out while driving. We definitely prefer having a dedicated monitor just for our TPMS, but you do have options now as it relates to apps and monitors. Hope this helps!
What an excellent review, chocked full of actual specs! I also appreciate your opinions at the end. I am thinking the Tire Minder may be preferable to me because of the sleep mode. This data is rarely necessary, only when you have an actual problem, and the Data scrolling can be distracting.
Thanks, Jeff. Yeah, we make no bones about the fact that we choose (and sell) only one solution to a problem like the TST, WeBoost, Surge Guard, etc. As full time RVers, we've tried a lot of the products and definitely pick a favorite. We try to present just the facts when we make comparison videos, but it's hard to hide our favor completely. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for putting this video together! I've been wanting to purchase a system but reluctant to, due to the different manufacturers and their different features. This was very informative and I feel I now have the information to comfortably purchase a TPMS with confidence.
There are so many systems and you can't assume they are all the same. We are glad this helped you see what you should be looking for when choosing a TPMS. If we can ever help you with the TST TPMS, let us know!
Hey Micheal, Good point, I did not think to mention price. I was just comparing the specs and usability. I am glad you liked the comparison, and thanks for the suggestion. Eric
Hey Roger, All TPMS on the market are manufactured out of China, but TST is a American company and does have a large operations and employees in Georgia and Texas. Hope this helps.. Eric
Since we have made this video, TireMinder has come out with new models and they are much better than the model we compared TST to years ago. We actually carry 2 of them at TechnoRV now and have a comparison video of the new models as well.
It would have been nice to compare similar units, for example the TireMinder Smart TPMS compared to the TST 507. It seems like the comparison is skewed towards the brand you sell just by the units you selected to compare. This is not really a like-to-like comparison.
Hi Steve! We selected the 2 units for the video based on the fact that they were the ones featured at the 2019 Tampa RV Show. TireMinder was showing the A1A and TST had the 507. The SMART TPMS may have been there too, but we find that most people looking for TPMS either want the phone app or not. The features are less important than the fact that they just want the app. While at the FMCA show this year, TireMinder was again featuring the A1A, so it must be a popular system for them. That's the unit we get the most questions about too, so the comparison made sense to us. In the future, we do plan to do more comparisons with some of the other systems out there. Thanks for the comment!
We just bought a 2022 Tiffin Wayfarer Class C and are in the process of deciding on a TPM. I love your video and it confirmed what I had already come to believe. BUT .... I'm just wondering if there is any updated info or new features for TST 507? Also, where is the best price and company to buy the unit. Thanks very much.
JosieNurse
Hi JoAnne, congratulations on your new Tiffin! We do have an updated video on the TST and TireMinder which will be helpful in your decision. Here is the link:ua-cam.com/video/kitoKGnmduA/v-deo.html
If you have any more questions, please let us know! If you choose to go with the TST, we do have a 10% off sale on TST through 3/14 when you use the code SHOP10 at checkout. We have a video on how to choose the right sensors as well, and it might be helpful as well. ua-cam.com/video/vIIqEbkD4fQ/v-deo.html
Very clear-thank you
TST you can have internal inside the trailer wheel.
Yes, you are right! TST does have an internal sensor and can be used in place of and in conjunction with the external sensors and all report to the same monitor.
Eric, great comparison of the 2 products. Over the last 13 years I have owned both 2 sets of TireMinder and I am currently running TST for the last 4 years. The reasons I prefer TST is for the adjustable alarm settings, auto scroll, dependability, warranty and technical support. I have adjusted the alarms several times due to elevation and ambient temperature. The auto scroll is a must for me. All I have to do is glance over every 5 seconds to see what is happening with each tire. To date, TST is extremely dependable. In 4 years I had one issue that was quickly resolved with the manufacturer. With the TireMinder I had multiple problems and went through 2 set ups. Your assistance with technical support is priceless. One call or one email and you and Tami always respond and I thank you.
Hey Steve, glad you are loving the TST. We have had so many people that need the adjustable settings because of the different climates they go in and out of, and I cant imagine just having to suffer through a system alarming for nothing. Luckily that wont happen with the TST. Safe travels!
Which would you recommend,the cap or flowthru
It really depends on your RV and tire. We made a video to help with this decision: ua-cam.com/video/vIIqEbkD4fQ/v-deo.html Check it out and let us know of you have any more questions. We personally use the flow through on our motorhome and caps on our Jeep, but we have metal valve stems on the motorhome.
Do you sell the Guta tpms? It's about 1/2 the price of the TST.
We do not sell the Guta. Price is not the top thing we look at when comparing and selecting products for not only our RV, but also TechnoRV. The TST and TireMinder systems have both proven to be well made and reliable over the years, and we are happy to stand behind them both. We have found that some of the less expensive models on Amazon do not have the quality we look for in a TPMS, even though the price is attractive. You may spend more for a TST or TireMinder up front, but it will be a system that works well for many many years to come. In addition, they both have 3-year warranties, so you know the company stands behind them.
@@Technorv Thanks for the information.
You're welcome!
According to the manual, the TST requires CR2032 batteries.
I just returned from a 3,000 mile trip using the TST color model. I have a 36' Winnebago pulling a car dolly and a Chrysler Sebering so a total of 10 sensors. I had my repeater ready to go and never needed it. Nice surprise. My wife and I really enjoyed the peace of mind that our older rv tires and the others were running at the proper pressure and temps.
Thanks, that's a very helpful comparison. I don't think you mentioned readability. How is the daytime readability of the color TST unit? Is it bright enough in bright light? Can the intensity be adjusted down at night? How is the nighttime readability of the LCD TST unit? Is it backlit? Is the backlight adjusted manually or automatically?
The TST color unit has good readability in daylight as long as the sun is't shining directly on it. As with an device, that would drown out the color. As far as nighttime, the screen is lit well plus with the back background, it is not so bright that it is distracting, It does have a auto dim though, but no manual dim switch.
Great comparison!!! We r new to rving full-time & are looking to purchase a tire monitoring system. This presentation made our minds up.. THANK YOU
FYI - the smart TireMinder scrolls and displays BOTH temperature and pressure!
Hi Jeff, This was a review of the Tire Minder A1A versus the TST. The A1A was the monitor unit that they displayed at this years Tampa RV Super Show so it is the most current model. We can see about looking at the other unit that they have but we are finding that RVers are steering away from App driven units because of the distracted driver laws. I don't have any experience with it so could not speak to it further than that, but I do appreciate your comment.
TechnoRV Thank you for your response. You are correct about the app driven product, however, I don’t see the difference between having my iPhone in a cradle with the tired monitoring screen active and monitoring vs the provided screen that TST and others provide. All are equally distracting because they are simply something extra that you have to look at while driving. Again, thanks for your response.
I've had a TST now for about three years. It works fine except for one glaring issue. When hooking up the trailer, it sometimes takes up to half an hour for the monitor to find a sensor.....this is not good while boondocking in BLM areas as the potential for tire failure is very high as I am leaving a campsite on a unmaintained road. Also, once I disconnect the trailer, it can take up to 45 minutes for the monitor to realize there is no trailer attached. I can be miles away from the trailer and it is still reporting the trailer tire parameters. If a wheel was to fall off, I wouldn't know it.
Hi Roy! It should not be taking that long for sensors to populate or to drop off if you aren't using them. When we turn our monitor on, it only takes 5 minutes or so for all sensors to start sending information. I would contact TST directly since you may be still in the 3-year warranty and let them know what is happening. Their number is (770) 889-9102.
Turn your monitor on when you start your hook up procedure. As for dropping off after unhooking just turn it off!
Do you have repeater installed and operating?
@@burkhall1 yes, I have repeater. But if actire falls off, we will not get notified, no matter repeater or not.
I started out with the TireMinder and it did save me going around Ft. Worth TX, it gave me plenty of time to pull over. I saw the TST at the Open Range RV Owners Coming Home Rally 2 years ago and purchased the 507 Gray monitor (the color was not available yet), The next year the the color monitor was out and I purchased it. The reason I I changed TPMS were the same that you pointed out, the TST does not go to sleep and it scrolls through the tires and you can see each one without having to remove your hands from the wheel. I like the color monitor over the gray but it is sometimes a little hard to see the color depending on the sunlight. My vote is for the TST but any is better than none! As far as the TireMinder, I gave it to my Son in law for his family's TT. We are in the middle of a cross country, and Canada & Alaska trip and I check my 507 every day as we are driving (total mileage will be around 18,000 miles) ........Very good review even though some are suggesting that you chose the one you sell, I replaced my TM for the same reasons.!
Thanks for the thorough feedback! We appreciate it when others share their experiences with the products as well. Safe travels!
Well , having watched this video . I am ready to buy TST kit . Do you ship to Canada ?
Yes, we do!
@@Technorv
I'm just putting an order in. It's in the cart. It's just one question about what I'm purchasing. I am getting 6 Flow sensors for my class A . The 4 cap sensors for my SUV It's included in the package ? Am I right?
When you are on the product page for the TST Flow Through Systems, you should have an option to add 4 cap sensors. If you do that, then yes, they will be in the order. Here is the link to the order page: www.technorv.com/tst-flow-thru-system-with-4-to-12-sensors/
@@Technorv I am in your page. I'm just confused if the four cap sensors are included with the system or are they not. It doesn't explain.
If you look at the page near the picture, it asks how many flow thru sensors you would like. Put 6 in there. Then under that, it asks do you want any cap sensors. That is where you need to put 4 if you want 10 sensors in all - 6 flow thru and 4 caps. If you'd rather place a phone order, we'd be happy to do that for you Monday morning. 866-324-7915
In one of your replies you mentioned that TST has done some improvements since this video. Can you please provide the most up-to-date model number for the TST TPMS? Also, is there a particular TST models that might come with 10 mixed sensors (6 flow through and 4 cap)? Thank you
HI Ruth! Yes, TST has made some updates on the monitor. The added 2 spare tire positions and brightened the display. It is still considered the TST 507, but you would want to be sure you are buying the newest model and not from someone who is still selling the old monitor. Also, any TST 507 System you buy can handle both the flow thru and cap sensors on the same monitor. We use it with 6 flow thru sensors on our RV and 4 cap sensors on our Jeep. On this listing, you can mix and match your system: www.technorv.com/tst-flow-thru-system-with-4-to-12-sensors/
I hope this helps! If you have any more questions, just let me know.
The best defense against blowouts is a preventative like FlatOut trailer formula and a TST system to monitor. Yes they are compatible with external sensors.
Excellent info. Thanks for sharing . We have the TST 507 and has saved us twice already in 1 outing. Works great.
Hey Wayne, thanks for the feedback. We love our TST too! I am glad it has alerted you to problems before they became bigger problems.
Is there a preference on cap vs pass through on higher rated tires...I have G rated tires on my truck and fifth wheel. Would the pass through have an issue with the higher pressures?
HI Aaron. The only consideration between cap and flow through is whether your valve stem is metal or rubber. PSI doesn't make a difference with which one you use. Here is a video that Eric made to help people make the decision between cap and flow through: ua-cam.com/video/vIIqEbkD4fQ/v-deo.html
@@Technorv Thank you! My other question is there any analytics showing failure rates between the two styles? Does one fail more frequently than the other?
@@BigRedWight Not that we know of. Personally, we have not seen a failure rate higher on one type of sensor over the other. When used correctly and on the right type stem (flow through sensors on metal only), the sensors both work the same.
what about RVI's Tire Patrol?
We are not familiar with RVI's Tire Patrol, but we would encourage you to look at the things we looked at in the this video and ask yourself the same questions no matter which system you are looking at. Safe travels!
Wondering how Tm 77 compares
We haven't had a chance to compare the TM77 yet, but have it on our list to do in the future. We chose the A1A because it was the unit they were selling at the Tampa RV SuperShow this year so we felt it was the most popular system for TireMinder at the time. The TST has been improved since this video as well, so we will start looking at doing more current comparisons soon. Thanks for commenting!
@TechnoRV, Great video. I am getting ready to retire and plan on extensive traveling and was wanting a tire monitoring system. One of the the things I am looking for for is something that has an APP since my wife and I have expensive smart phones and we even have a laptop and with the new trucks having an AC outlet it just makes since to multi-purpose as much as possible. Does anyone one have a system that uses an App or do you know if TST or TireMinder are working on an app??
Thanks, Bill! TireMinder now has a TPMS system that has an app that can display your tire information. TST is not currently exploring this option due to the many distracted driving laws that prohibit drivers from using or having phones out while driving. We definitely prefer having a dedicated monitor just for our TPMS, but you do have options now as it relates to apps and monitors. Hope this helps!
What an excellent review, chocked full of actual specs! I also appreciate your opinions at the end. I am thinking the Tire Minder may be preferable to me because of the sleep mode. This data is rarely necessary, only when you have an actual problem, and the Data scrolling can be distracting.
Thanks for the feedback. We are glad the info was helpful to you in making your decision to get a TPMS! Safe travels!
Obviously from the start, you favored the TST (and you just happen to sell it as well)
Good comparison though...thanks
Thanks, Jeff. Yeah, we make no bones about the fact that we choose (and sell) only one solution to a problem like the TST, WeBoost, Surge Guard, etc. As full time RVers, we've tried a lot of the products and definitely pick a favorite. We try to present just the facts when we make comparison videos, but it's hard to hide our favor completely. Thanks for watching!
Kinda hard not to favor the TST, the Tireminder is garbage in comparison.
Great review. Now I'm ready to buy. Thanks so much
Glad it was helpful!
good info thank you
Thank you for putting this video together! I've been wanting to purchase a system but reluctant to, due to the different manufacturers and their different features. This was very informative and I feel I now have the information to comfortably purchase a TPMS with confidence.
There are so many systems and you can't assume they are all the same. We are glad this helped you see what you should be looking for when choosing a TPMS. If we can ever help you with the TST TPMS, let us know!
Thanks for the comparison, and the good deal. I just ordered the TST.
I now know a lot about TPMS thanks for the great information.
Excellent video, totally appreciate the comparison just curious why you didn't compare the price. I did see that on Amazon each was close to $365ish
Hey Micheal,
Good point, I did not think to mention price. I was just comparing the specs and usability. I am glad you liked the comparison, and thanks for the suggestion.
Eric
Thank you much for all the information on these systems. You have made my decision easier.
Excellent and thorough comparison Eric. Great job. We love out TST monitor.
Thanks, you guys! 😊
Is this made in USA or China?
Hey Roger,
All TPMS on the market are manufactured out of China, but TST is a American company and does have a large operations and employees in Georgia and Texas.
Hope this helps.. Eric
Moral of the story is the tire minder sucks.
Since we have made this video, TireMinder has come out with new models and they are much better than the model we compared TST to years ago. We actually carry 2 of them at TechnoRV now and have a comparison video of the new models as well.
It would have been nice to compare similar units, for example the TireMinder Smart TPMS compared to the TST 507. It seems like the comparison is skewed towards the brand you sell just by the units you selected to compare. This is not really a like-to-like comparison.
Hi Steve! We selected the 2 units for the video based on the fact that they were the ones featured at the 2019 Tampa RV Show. TireMinder was showing the A1A and TST had the 507. The SMART TPMS may have been there too, but we find that most people looking for TPMS either want the phone app or not. The features are less important than the fact that they just want the app. While at the FMCA show this year, TireMinder was again featuring the A1A, so it must be a popular system for them. That's the unit we get the most questions about too, so the comparison made sense to us. In the future, we do plan to do more comparisons with some of the other systems out there. Thanks for the comment!