8:15 " INFJs are often more concerned about other people's feelings than they are of Their Own". Hence why I was a doormat for 30 + years of my life and a great narcissist magnet.
You are probably Fe dominant or ISFJ lol. Either that or you are just a very slow learner. I have learned not to be a doormat since 6th grade. Not immediately successful, but at least I tried.
It is often far easier and more beneficial to adapt my own reactions and hence feelings than to expect to be able to or attempt to change these in others. I have far more control over my own mind and it’s contents than I do another person’s.
@@caffemocca8855 Or had some significant trauma along the way, possibly in early childhood. Nothing steamrolls your boundaries quite like family. Marinate in that toxic stew, then go out and make choices that echo the voices of your childhood, and you're set up for decades of remedial work. Not slow as much as having a bigger pile to climb out from under.
Wow, sounds just like my life. Once I realized I'm the one who is being the magnet, I slowly learned the signs to look out for. Boy Howdy, did I suddenly lose a bunch of friends and associations with Family members. Well, my life is so much better, more in balance and I found- I can say no, or when I help a friend or so out, they know that to be my friend, at times If I need help, they need to be able to return the help just as I have helped them.
I'm an INFJ as well and when you said we need a REASON for believing things it really made sense to me. That's how I've been my whole life. I strive to find out WHY things are the way they are under the surface
Exactly. I couldn't agree more. One of the most frustrating things to me (when dealing with other personality types) is that some of them insist that the 'why' doesn't matter and are highly annoyed by my need to figure out the 'whys'.
@@onyxwelborne exactly. It's something that has always interested me. I feel like if we truly understand the why's then we have a better understanding of how to solve related problems. If I never figure out how or why something I'm interested in works, then it bothers me and I feel like I only know a fraction of the story.
i cannot talk for all the infp people out there but because i am an analytical infp i tend to collect facts and emotional information by reading and talking to people and find out the most reasonably answer to all the things that happen worldwide or in interactions with others. only listening to opinions of people is not enough because it is to subjektiv and also misleading. if someone really wants to understand circumstances they need to see the whole. ofc that also is a problem for infp like me. we see the whole but the individuum sometimes is an own universe and needs to be thought about seperately. people wonder why infps think so much or are often on their own. thats why. we search for truth of the whole and the individual truth. it takes a lot of time XD
Cool so I am not the only one who has to break everything down the molecular level then rebuild it to truly understand something therefore be able to make a sound decision.
5:03 - 9:25 Values, ethics & feelings 9:26 - 11:02 Knowing how others feel before knowing how you feel 11:03 - 11:52 Meditation recentering yourself 11:53 - 12:58 Do you know how you feel, do you know all your values, do you know who you are 13:00 - 15:36 People pleasing, maintaining Social Harmony 15:37 - 21:28 Can you make quick decisions are you a quick decision maker or do you ruminate, r u decisive, do u have trouble narrowing it down do you get sidetracked easily. 19:29 - 21:11 Once you come to a conclusion or make a decision do you discard new information & become stubborn or are you open to new information. Sniper analogy. 21:12 - 24:02 INFP’s have trouble laser focusing on something like an INFJ & they have trouble finishing a task they have started. 24:03 - 26:44 INFP’s like to keep their options open so they are more spontaneous & don’t make scheduled plans like INFJ’s. INFP’s don’t like being locked down to a rigid schedule & INFJ’s might feel insulted at the INFP rejecting their need for a schedule. INFJ’s prefer scheduled & structured people. 26:45- 27:40 Difference in introverted & extroverted intuition INFP will speak publicly of their half thought out ideas while an INFJ won’t speak up till they have thought it thoroughly so they might stay quiet for a while & then catch people off guard with how direct they can suddenly be. 27:42 - 30:14 Child position introverted thinking child like logic not tainted by bureaucracy, culture & Tradition. How children say things don’t make sense according to society’s rules. 30:15 - 32:06 introverted thinking is logic and deductive reasoning. INFJ’s can look INTP if they develop their logical way of thinking in a healthy way. Some INFJ’s don’t value their introverted thinking but if you do you can get on the level of a T logical way of thinking. 32:07 - 35:13 Extroverted thinking for INFP’s. INTJ’s & INFJ’s can have great logical & intellectual discussions because functions but for an INFP it’s their weak spot. 35:15 - 39:07 inferior function of INFP extroverted thinking. Introverted thinking is their third better. They are more comfortable with things they have already experienced they don’t like surprises they like reenjoying things they already know about. 39:08 - 41:10 INFP vs INFJ in empathy INFJ absorbs another persons feelings while an INFP relates it to their past experiences so they relive it. 48:24 Jealous of INFP’s they are so confident & know themselves so well.
Took the test a couple of times, years apart, and got that I could be either INFJ or INFP. After watching this amazing explanation I can undoubtedly confirm I'm INFJ down to my core. Thank you Clay! This was truly enlightening.
I got an INFP result recently, and so here I am on UA-cam watching videos on the differences. And, yes, every single detail and the overall picture makes it obvious that I am not an INFP. I think that these tests are good to a point, but as a reference point. I am who I am because of my personality, first, and because of how I deliberately live in response to that personality so I can function in the real world. Therefore, I probably have developed skills, therefore practices, that might differ from the base feeling of who I am -- which I would say is actually who I am. That is the internal me -- the INFJ. The external me (let's say, INFP, sometimes) is just trying to cope as an INFJ.
INFP here and I can say that I *am* diplomatic and concerned for the feelings of others to not upset them because this will in turn upset me. So it’s kind of a twisted self-relating decision making. I will go along with the other‘s restaurant choice to have my own peace of mind. But that’s for stuff that’s not important to me on a core value level (a restaurant isn’t 😅). If my core is targeted I will not be diplomatic. But I also probably won’t challenge the other person, I will simply walk away.
Good break down. Same here.. although I have issues with people pleasing because of childhood trauma. I learned at a young age to read the room and try to anger my father so he wouldn't lash out, constantly worried about saying the wrong thing or making him mad. Because of this I struggle with being able to express my own needs and feelings and become more focused on someone else's happiness sacrificing my own. I didn't even realize how much of an issue it was and how badly it was messing with my core values and true authentic self until recently. Instead I had convinced myself that it wasn't a bad thing at all. Rationalizing it as me being a compassionate empathic person. Although that in a sense is true It doesn't make it healthy. I'm still working on it. Hopefully one day I'll be able to rewire my brain and voice myself also put my needs first.
Me too. I tested a an INFJ a few years ago and then retested like 6 months ago and got INFP. I partook of shrooms during that time. Maybe it's related 🤷♀️ but when I hear Clay explain the differences I feel like the jury is still out on what I actually am. I feel like I'm bouncing between the 2.
"You might see [INFPs] wearing clothes ... that show the world who they are. For example people who wear certain clothes that are very loud..." [[looks down at own red trousers]]. Ok. You may have a point.
My parents told me, that as a 3 year old, I decided I wanted to be a boy and refused to wear anything but boy clothes, and would pull all the hair bows even with pulling some hair with it. 🙄 The self-expression also was always reflected in my hair styles and dying and cutting it in uncommon ways. ...as a teen, I would actually refuse to wear anything that was trendy. I started making clothes as a teen and at some point of my life designer/clothing and costume making was my income.
I've taken the test several times with the results so very close between INFJ/INFP but ultimately INFP. You were spot on for the most part - I have no problems saying no, immediately pick up when someone is trying to manipulate me, preferring my own company (I am my own best friend), can't stand superficial conversation, always first to leave a party, really do go far down the rabbit hole for everything, do lots of research on multiple topics, love scrapbooking (LOL), never complete a projects (I have soooo many and types), love, love books from spiritual, politics, arts and crafts, gardening, novels of all kinds, self-improvement, biographies, nutrition and health, as well as other topics (have several thousand books but will let go of some occasionally) and so forth. However, like an IFNJ, I do love someone else planning activities rather than me; if I suggest to a friend to get together, they will need to set time and place and I will be there. I never cancel a planned outing or activity because something better came up. I always keep my commitments. Many years ago, I had accepted a date for an event, turned down another event because of my commitment. When that person forgot the date and acted if nothing was wrong - I ended the relationship. Like an INFJ, I do like to blend in as far a dress is concerned but I do have my own style - comfortable. I often go off on a tangent in a conversation but have an absolute need to complete it and will definitely veer back to original topic. I am very opinionated, know what I am talking about but often comes out of my mouth poorly, so I shut up. I am very spiritual, not religious even though I come from a Christian background, and yes, some of my beliefs "are waaayy out there". I have very few close friends (my choice - too much work otherwise) but do get together regularly and socialize with other people, so I am not a hermit. I once went to a 10 year class reunion and was told by several different people they thought I was shy and others thought I was stuck up, I am neither. Go figure.
Hello me!! You basically said me in a nutshell, right down to not being able to articulate what comes out of my mouth so I shut up. I have been tested as INFP but really feel like INFJ for many reasons.
@@monika.71 So there are other people out there like me. LOL. I have always felt that I beat to the tune of a different drum. I do so envy the people who have the gift of gab - would love to debate (since I have so much to say) but just don't have that quick wit.
I‘m a INFJ and my husband is INFP, your spot on and it explains why we sometimes pull in different direction when we are trying to make decisions but we also work so well together because we learn from each other. I help him focus and he helps me broaden my thinking.
“Do you struggle with who you are? Me an INFJ and potentially a recovering people pleaser, would have a really hard time answering that question” couldn’t relate to a truer statement
Same... I would write a liner comment but that pretty much sums up how I feel. It’s so refreshing to go in the internet and see I’m not line but at the same time I wouldn’t want anyone else to experience that.. yeah
Lol !!! Recovering people pleaser ? Don't quit just include more of yourself in that process ! Learn to kick the can down the road and try some new approaches ! Some of your evidence comes from living don't think that every time you stuck your neck out a little some one's going to chop it off! Live a little ! I walk with my head high ! Not blindfolded mind you," but Level and confident.
@@Coneman3 how do you sort out the worthy and the " Worthless " I'm sure Jesus had a hard time with that one too ... That thing with it being more blessed to give than to receive . It makes one wonder if any of the 10 commandments are ever obeyed by men that call themselves Christian . I'm not a Christian but behave more like one than so called believers . They call it common sense .I've taken a few under my wing and been disappointed . That's life it doesn't always go as planned but , you have to try just like climate change ,$ It's been long past time to aggressively combat it's onslaught , however we just look At each other in shock and mumble to ourselves about it ! Or should I say most of us do ! What are we going to tell the kids ? We Tried ? Lol we fool ourselves not them .Sometime I feel alone in a room full of people and sometime the life of the party !? I love the earth and all it encompasses save ignorance and cruelty .
12:57 INFP would follow his/her own authenticity, but not at the expense of other's desire. INFPs parent function (Ne) respect others choices. So most likely, an INFP will not brake social harmony, but follow others. Staying in their own heads all along. They take charge only, when they feel that representing their values will be appreciated and taken easy by the group or Ne parent function sees each members of the group fit in easily in that "future" what the INFP offer.
@@juliall255 yes, I agree. However, you often go with the flow and don't reveal your true values. Don't you? These values are more like complex feelings than words, so you can't really share clearly. That's why you learn to keep a social distance (stay in your own head) until your values are crystal clear and you're able to express them. Do you feel it right?
26:45 INFP may speak out uncomplete thoughts as to speculate the issue. It may not represent one's full thoughts nor does it necessarily have anything to do with final decision. It may be just another cart in the train of thought that passes by and gets terminated before reaching the final destination.
I’m an INFP through and through. This video put things more plainly for me and helped me understand the difference more. I do believe in social harmony but not at the expense of self-expression. I mirror people’s moods a lot(laugh/cry when they do) but I still have my own separate emotional state. Something that resonated with me is the comfort we derive from past experiences. In my case it’s hard for me to try something new to the point where I downright resent recommendations. I will still recommend things to my friends and family because I want to share the experience with them, or it’s more likely that I’m just looking for validation that what I like is good. On the other hand, when they recommend things to me I immediately shut it down, and it’s like I’m determined to hate it. I’ve struggled with my mental health for most of my life so it’s hard to tell how much of my personality is trauma based, and how much of it is just the way my brain works.
Omg yessss Same I'm an INFP too And I do relate with the mental health part...I've had depression and sometimes it's hard to know if im just the way I am or is it cuz I'm an INFP
Same, and I think I’m pretty INFP. I’ve tested and got both, which is weird. But I can relate to this deeply and that can’t be complete coincidence? lol
im infp and hsp...imagine that fun i have not being able to fully concentrate on my own emotions sometimes...yey...dito on the trauma side, i genuinly have the thought that i take everything in my life as a trauma with me though its nothing to others at all. I love recommendations! i love learning new things! or about new things. more stuff i can think about instead putting my mind on the hardships of our system or world around me.
I'm an infp and being fake is the worst feeling ever. Gives me imposter syndrome. But at the same time sometimes pretending to like something that isn't my forte might be the only thing that could keep me in a friend group. And that gets me in a depressive episode.
Thanks a lot, this was the most comprehensible video on the differences between INFJs and INFPs I have seen so far! I now have no doubts I am an INFP. I’m so glad you talked about the inferior functions and how they influence the personality type in the way they are developed. I just realized that in the past I never really fact-checked stuff and always either got super into it if it suited my inner values or discarded it immediately if it didn’t. Over the last couple of years I somehow really worked on that, and am much more open-minded to the opinions of others even if they don’t match my inner values, given ofc that they are somehow science based. Especially when it comes to topics I’m just not that interested in like politics. Back then I just had opinions on everything and thought I was right because it felt right… but now I know it’s much more complicated than that, so I learned to really listen to others who kinda know what they are talking about, gather as much opinions (in all directions) as possible and then decide what makes the most sense. Really appreciate your video, it was an eye-opener!
I would say no...my INFP friend bugs the hell out of me with his self centered way of seeing things...I can't tell him what I think about that because it's very easy to hurt his feelings...and I don't want that... despite that I love how he is able to go his own way...I'm too concerned about how my actions will affect other people 🙄 I'm an INFJ I'm never authentic...I don't know what it means to be that...I adjust to the people around me...I'm a Cameleon who doesn't know which color is my true color 🤔 The only time I think I could consider myself as authentic (whatever that is) is when I'm alone with my thoughts...but even then I struggle with how I feel about things 😬 But if you mean being able to talk about abstract things without feeling like a complete weirdo...the answer is yes...but that goes for my ESFJ friend too...she's very open to listening to me...the thing is though I don't think she truly gets what I'm talking about 😬😁
@@t.c9537 I totally get how hard the self centered part is to deal with. This person is like that too, without even meaning to be half the time, though isn't as easily offended when told so as most INFP'S would be. There are times I have thought that maybe they are an INFJ with ADHD and depression, since we tend to think and act so much alike. It can be really hard to tell what personality type someone has when they suffer from both. Also, the chameleon effect can definitely make it difficult to really figure out our authentic selves, but I just don't find the need to automatically enter into some kind of role when this person is around because we genuinely connect in a weird sort of way.
@@wonderingpilgrim I hear you...and of course not all INFPs are the same 🙂 Being a Cameleon is not so much a conscious thing...I'm not playing a role...I automatically adjust to the person or situation ...somehow I just know how to talk and behave to fit in...my identity is a mix of all the people I've met during my life 🙂 Who I really am is not that important to me...I don't go around thinking about that 😁
@@sirmadam8183 ESFJs are the best...so caring...maybe a little bit too much of control freaks...she loves to be the one who plans a vacation 🤭 and sometimes she needs help to stop and think before she acts...she just wants to get started...not like me...I have to think for a long time... but when I finally get started I'm unstoppable and I know exactly how to do things in the most efficient way 😁 She gave me a t-shirt for my birthday with a print that said "I'm not bossy I just have better ideas" 😂
I think INFJs are more “present” in social circles than INFPs. I have INFPs friends have tendencies to be in their own world and be completely unreachable which make them extremely difficult friends to be with.
The “completely unreachable” is so true. The INFPs I know have such a difficult time understanding anyone else’s point of view. They have an idea or thought that they are set on, regardless if it’s right or wrong, and there’s no convincing them to see otherwise. It’s exhausting.
Agree 100%. I think thats why they like INFJs. We are willing to set aside time to be present with them...all sides of them. I believe they feel this is one of the most important components to a satisfying connection.
Hmm. It depends on the context. I tend to shy away from giant circles, but not from small groups. Also, on the dance floor, I am quite sociable. In terms of friends, I tend to seek out people that read to me as non-judgemental , emotional types, and I have an admiration of anyone who is following the beat of their own drummer, regardless of if I agree with them. Except racists. I appreciate someone trying to get to know me for me, tho.
I disagree. I'm an INFP and I can be pretty extroverted in group settings. I tend to be good at responding, and affirming others while also understanding people's needs. I can be very spaced out and in my head but I can also have a flip switched where I'm engaged with others.
So interesting! I tested 51% INFP, 49% INFJ, and I relate to both very much! Every other topic I related to one or the other. So interesting, thanks for sharing your expertise on the matter!
I'm having the same experience. It can be quite frustrating. But then I remember that it's just a sign that every human being is complex, and these categories can sometimes lead to oversimplifications of the human psyche, so don't get too caught up in the pressure to label yourself within these systems.
I am in my 70s with lots of life experiences. Thought I was an INFJ but now I find myself a mixture of INFJ AND INFP. Wonder if life experiences has taught me to adapt or at least to be less of a people pleaser but hold onto being very cognizant of others feelings. I am very authentic but kind about it . I need reasons for my beliefs but have researched them thoroughly. I was a nurse and worked in a new ground floor speciality, functioned very well and stayed in that speciality for almost 50 years. Had to make solid decisions and sometimes quickly but also needed to study the situations to implement new techniques. Liked to be a team member and not the one in charge unless the situation warranted it. Worked with chronically ill patients and became close to many of them. Wondering if life helps us all to grow in good and not-so- good ways. I thoroughly enjoyed your presentation. Who know I may even be another set of initials😅
Me too! I care a whole lot about people's feelings and whether they are okay, and I don't know what I think or feel all the time (I kind of defer to the other people in my life). At the same time, I definitely sympathize easier than I empathize, and though I don't judge things based on my own internal values so much, I definitely value things internally, and don't easily determine whether or not something is outwardly valuable if I have sentimental ties to it (and I can have sentimental ties to a scrap of paper or a dead flower) - I just find myself wanting to keep it because of this one time that I had an experience with it that I want to remember. Lastly, I feel like, though I do take time and internalize and filter my reality before I even speak (Clay I really resonated with your comment about your friend noticing how you just zone out for 20 seconds and then respond) I don't really put on blinders; I get easily distracted, and actually have a hard time finishing projects or staying focused. Please respond if this makes any sense or you know what I am talking about. Or especially if you can explain how these seemingly opposite characteristics (from an MBTI perspective) could coexist.
I had one question that I could not pick between two responses because both were preferred and I swing between. So I did a trial of test all same and choosing one, then test all same choosing other. One said I was INFJ and the other said I was INFP. I do feel I am a split.
Being an INFJ with both INFP partner and best friend, I see how we sort of "complete" each other. It's not a cliché, really, although I can see why people may think that. I actually see that where I fail, they help me, and where they struggle, I come to help them.
I totally know what you mean. I think my husband is an INFP. When reads something, it's like he has this effortless ability to decode. I asked him how do you do that? And he says, I don't know, just do. It sometimes takes months to put the pieces together.
@@Shanna1215 Exactly! INFP's are good at taking information and put it together (those who developed their Te inferior, I guess?). It's fascinating to see how me and him work harmoniously without even trying.
I had an INFJ partner and I think that we were soul mates, I mean I never felt so synced with someone . My problem with INFJ is it's Fe function, trying to please others and taking the INFP partner as granted, putting his opinions and feelings to second place. In a fight, the INFPs hate when INFJ tryes to help, by counseling, because we know what we are feeling and why, we just need an apology or a hug, we don't need a dissertation about why we shouldn't feel that way xD. I broke up with the INFJ it hurted me a lot because I loved him deeply but I couldn't be with someone that prefers social harmony over the feelings of the partner. I hope that you guys get really well for many many years and I wish you the best because INFJ/INFP are really true soul mates. :D
Im infp and my friend is isfj i think it was And we work great together He and i are best buds and its been like that for 4 years now I feel that he is more organized than me and he follows a plan I just pay attention to the details in life and usually feel fine or dont even notice if i got distracted and changed the expected scenario or plan He is a little better in tems of doing work faster and not get tired as easily I get more tired and distracted but spot details he does not Im more quiet and he is a bit more outgoing Much things i don't have he has them like organization and somethings he does not have like creativity i do I think we both patch up our weaknesses pretty well
@@cristina7317 instead of rejecting others opinions you can read about it. The peacemaker INFP comes from their hate of conflict and the fact that they can understand others points of view. they also are individualistic but they don't show that in public as much. :) I am a INFP don't worry ;) I don't know if you are an INFP but if you are you should be more open minded...
Funny. In my professional life I can make very dedicated 'sniper' plans, to be executed by person X (could be me or someone else), but in my private life I hardly plan anything for myself. My team leader takes care of my work load LOL. I have the tendency to want too much on my plate (slight people pleaser there).
The best video I have seen breaking down the differences with significant enough detail and explanations allowing us to likely draw better conclusions on what we, or our closest loved ones personality types are.
I keep taking different online MBTI tests and all say I am INFP. I always thought I was INFJ (in fact, when I was younger it was more like ENFP/J) After listening to this very articulate explanation about the function stack, I am pretty sure I am INFP. - I know my core values and assert them, even at the expense of creating disharmony in my environment - I have very esoteric spiritual beliefs and need no scientific proof about their validity (I just know they are right) - I don't necessarily like change, but if a situation doesn't feel right (vs my core values) I am very decisive about making the changes to get it into alignment - people have always complimented me about my dress sense, but always stating that it is "different". TBH, I don't try to be different but also see no need to conform to what others are doing. Each to his own. - I have lots of ideas and get side-tracked quite easily. I am not the person to take a long-term project to the finish line. I am more likely the person who innovates/strategises/consults... then walks off to explore the next big idea. I really enjoy this video because now I also understand where my potential blindspots are. I will work on those areas in order to grow.
If you do take the MBTI, use caution when considering the meaning of your results. I’m 25 and over 10 years, I’ve often tested as an INFP. But whenever I read a description or even see a meme about INFJ, it’s almost always relatable. On the other hand, I couldn’t feel the same way about what it’s like being an INFP. I was so surprised when I learned that it’s actually easy to be mistyped by the Myers-Briggs quiz, especially if you are an introvert. Reading about the cognitive functions is what helped me understand how my brain worked and eventually discover that I was mistyped. Understanding the wiring of your personality type requires diving deep into type theory, and it goes much deeper than what can be learned from an online personality test result.
The testing of the dichotomies is quite unreliable for sure. I myself was first INFP, INFJ, ENFJ and then ENFP. Cognitive function test are more reliable IME.
This is SO ACCURATE... the test says INFP but when you dive deeper by looking at the traits, you have less INFP trait, but relate to most INFJ traits... Then it just confuse you more...
I think that one thing that can lead to confusion centered around whether or not you're an infp is that you can have values that mimic other cognitive functions. Social harmony could be one of your values, leading to you acting similar to an infj. Logic can be one of your values which might lead to you wondering if you're an intp.
Totally agree. Especially if the INFP is an 9 or 6 in enneagram. They would value harmony a lot. Or an INFP with type 5, who would be more logical than usual INFPs.
I have actually been wondering whether I was an INFP, but after watching this I'm sure I'm an INFJ. When you were talking about absorbing people's feelings and stuff, well, that's one of the reasons why I really know that I'm an INFJ. One thing that I've noticed is especially when I meet new people or are in situations that make me nervous, like a job interview or a date with a guy I like, I almost completely loose sense of myself sometimes because I'm all 'out there trying to figure out where they are at'. The other day I was at a job interview and I actually just agreed to a lot of things just to keep the peace and then after a day or two, I was like, I really don't want this job. This makes me feel awful. So that's how I know, because I need a lot of time to myself to figure things out.
Another good way to tell if you are an INFP or INFJ: what matters to you more/what freaks you out more - things(events, happenings, chaos, little details, etc) or people(your relationships with people, what others think of you, are "they" a good/bad person, etc)? The INFJ (lead Ni) will worry more about chaos, changes in their lives, details, everything that is happening, what life throws at them. At the same time they see people as very important, big part of their lives, but still as more or less movable thing because people come and go. The INFP (lead Fi) will worry more about people, their friendships, relationships with others, how they are perceived, while things like chaos, little details, events, unfortunate happenings etc. for them are something that just happens, sure, it can also can be triggering but it is movable because things/events in life come and go. For INFJs people are IN the story. For INFPs people ARE the story. (story=life) I hope this is helpful to someone. :)
I test out as infp in lot of tests. But one test got me infj, I didn't doubt it until then. Now I started researching, I have more infj qualities than infp. But when making decisions to these tests, I answer them like an infp would. One thing to note though is that, my intuition comes out to be ~56 percent. And my prospection also hovers around that. So maybe I switch between infp and infj. But I learned that from an infj that infj test as infp when they are going through emotional turmoil. And that person said her precentages would hover around mine nearing 60. One more thing I learned that infj have shadow introverted feeling function. So it makes sense that I would make decisions using it during tests trying to be overly authentic? Using Fi. But I just know that I'm more of an infj than infp. And situations have a lot of effect on you, so you would use your shadow functions and it all leads to confusion. Hope this helps. I'm not that learned in mbti and cognitive functions, it's been only a month. So I maybe wrong about things..but so far this has been my experience.
@@loreta8249 This seems a bit backwards to me, since INFJs are people pleasers and have extroverted feeling, while INFPs lead with introverted feeling.
This is so helpful! INFJ trying to determine if I’m an INFP.... turns out I’m definitely an INFJ! Here’s to forever doubting one’s self in trying to create social harmony!
This is an amazing description & differentiation of these MB personalities. I’m an INFP & you’ve exactly nailed my defining characteristics. I am so impressed! I think that INFP’s can identify patterns almost without trying. Or maybe that’s just me. I feel like you described HOW that works but I need to chew on your perspective a bit. Maybe delve into my tickle trunk of sensory memories & associations. Plus I’ve been able to discern the connection I have with my INFJ friend. I really perceive her mysteriousness more clearly now. I am deeply grateful to you for this clarification.
Nice break down of the types! Like you explained the INFP and INFJ have totally opposite ways of coming to decisions, INFP makes quick judgements based on core values then proceeds to questions everything. While INFJ seems to spend a longer time taking in and picking apart info before coming to an absolute answer. Thanks for the insightful video!
As an INFJ this really helped me to see why INFPs complete me so well! And I only believe I know just one or two. Both are authentic artists who actually understand me. Clay is so insightful with these well thought out observations of these two types that are so on target! Great job.
You finally confirmed it once and for all to me that I was right, I am an INFP though a friend was trying to convince me I was an INFJ. I was in some horrible relationships, but not because I was trying to be a "people pleaser", but because one of my strongest held beliefs was/is to look for best in people and not to give up, when the going gets tough. I wish I would walk away way faster from those people and situations, but, when I finally saw things for what they were, I walked away and never looked back and that is not a people pleasing behavior.
@@PeacefulPariah I have. The INFP is more of a "dreamer" type and I write poetry, and dreamed of "World peace" since I remember myself.... Also, there's a part about the "values/convictions" in INFP case, which they are definitely something I reflect on, before doing almost anything in life and they are my beacon. Don't know, if it comes across right, but I go into deep historical/political etc researches, just to make sure my values are not lopsided, lol. Thank you for commenting! Let me know, how it is for you or your opinions, if you'd like.
Have you ever been to a psychiatrist or psychologist and found out from a professional on their perspective of what type of personality you are and I honestly believe that you are going to be the same person that you’ve always been and the only difference is now you nigh have a better idea of understanding yourself and why you do the things you do as for myself I don’t want to say quite yet because it for sure holds merit that I could be an INFJ and the more I learned about it and the truth behind it I became a little sad because it is not really that great to have an INFJ PERSONALITY because I have learned how to cope with being alone with my thoughts and I am not going to say that I have experienced joy in my lord an extremely long long time and I am more sad just learning how it actually works so I have the ability somehow I picked it up from my childhood trauma to choose the things that I have decided to not give permission to be a drain on my human spirit because we are all capable of doing whatever it is that drives you and I to the absolute extreme adventure and I’m personally an adrenaline junkie and I so bad want to sky dive, base jump, and those awesome body suits that glide right though the air like you’re actually able to fly and I wouldn’t hesitate for a second and I would be so excited in the best way possible that I’d probably jump before putting on my suit, LMFAO
@@PeacefulPariah regardless of any test or the fancy diploma’s hanging up on the doctors office I have no doubt you know yourself better than he does but it takes work to find yourself and that is what makes life worth living is most certainly the experiences you have to endure to get to the next level of your life because I don’t care about what happened to me personally as a child because it’s in the past and it’s never coming back because I don’t allow people that have been very cruel to me to ever get the best of me because the truth I believe is the only person who deserves the very best of you is in fact you and only you not your wife or your children because if you’re not at your best in life how could you possibly take care of your family and bring up your children to be model citizens who have respect for themselves first and foremost they made a huge mistake when they introduced that anti bullying campaign because they are protecting these young people to be living in a damn bubble that they have never been given the tools they need to make it when they are ready to Graduate and the people who are most likely teachers are never going to be there to defend them from harm and I am old enough that when I was in school you settled in the old fashioned way and that is what men are made for is protecting their own lives and the lives of their families in this day and age I’m not surprised they are record numbers of children who have been failed by the idiots running the country that say oh bullying is just terrible but ask yourself this question would you rather have a good young man who knows how to defend himself because he has never been given the tools to defend himself and they are not going to have his back when school is out for good and that generation is the generation of weaklings who by no fault of their own have been brainwashed into believing that they should never hit anyone who is going to beat the hell out of him for the fact he doesn’t know any different because they want to immaculate the children that they are so docile that they don’t pose a threat to the United States government because they want total population control and they are wrong and by all means absolutely cruel to the point they should be charged with the falsifying of a generation olds law of the land that danger does exist in the world and those politicians need to put a damn stop to this because they have no right to take the power away from a teenaged boy who lives in a world of imagination that doesn’t actually exist in the real world and they are the exact reason why kids can’t take it anymore and so they bring firearms to school because it’s been stripped of their right and protect protected people and they are going to eventually snap and that is how columbine happened and the people that are younger than I am may not remember the first shooting and I blame the media for making them look like rockstars and they just killed 30 people who are completely innocent and they paid the price for democrats to be able to make guns the public enemy number one when in fact they are all to blame and I’m furious talking about this because it’s completely true if you just take the time to think about why did the kids start thinking it was okay to do such horrific things that thyroid should allow teachers to carry a weapon on their person and I bet they are going to think twice who’s the better shot and the loser is the one who I’d honestly shoot to subdue him because he doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing and I am not saying that he shouldn’t be sent to prison for life or lethal injection because he must be a man and stand up for what he believes is right to be a good man and citizen of the United States of America and I wish I could have been at sandy hook elementary school and I would no doubt have taken that coward out in the knee’s because he’s not thinking about anything except the enormous amount of pain he deserves to be in and let cowards like that just bleed out and suffer the pain of those little kids 😓😓😓😓😓 I can’t help but tear up when I think of those little kids who never got a chance to start their lives and if it was possible I’d gladly lay down my own life to bring them all back to their parents because I have never been afraid to die but this is so much more fundamental than that I have always had a heart that is so big and I don’t expect anything in return especially thinking about that monster who killed little innocent lives that they probably would have hugged the person that killed those so precious innocent souls 😓😓😓😓😓😓😓😓😥😥😥😥 I didn’t need to know any of those children yet I am literally crying because of how terrible of a crime that was that I wish I had been there and I would have been so furious that I know what it feels like to be shot and I don’t care if he shot me first but before god almighty I would ask the lord to use me as his tool to take out the guy responsible for killing innocent kids and I have no doubt he knows anything about weapons and I’m a tack driver with my Model 22 .40 caliber Glock that I keep loaded with hollow points to be sure it tear’s the flesh from every bone in his body because he makes the necessary monster in me come out to even the odds that piece of fucking shit is burning in hell every day for the horrific lives he took for no fucking reason except he felt like it I’m so sad that happened to those innocent little kids that had not even had a chance to begin life and he snatched it away from those parents who I can’t possibly imagine what they had going through their minds when they got the news that one of their children was murdered by a guy that deserved never to have been born and I would have torn him to peices with my bare hands and not stopped until he was lifeless like the innocent kids he had killed for absolutely no reason whatsoever he better hope the lord doesn’t send me to hell because I’m making it my mission to take his life in hell if it’s possible but I am never going to let go of his throat because I don’t want him to be alive anywhere in time and he should have been aborted by his mother and thrown into a dumpster because he was nothing but trash that needed to be dealt a hard of his own medicine for each of the innocent children and their families my heart goes out to you like you can’t even imagine the pain that I would have knee capped him, cut his fingers off with a dull hacksaw so it takes longer for him to suffer because I feel like Clyde Shelton in the movie law abiding citizen when well it’s a case not even close to the horrible things people have done in the world and I would have this tragedy in the top most horrific tragedies in history of the United States of America 🇺🇸 and may the souls of those lost find their way home again amen 🙏. My apologies for getting teary eyed and I just can’t imagine what monster is capable of taking the innocent of the most innocent and the parents I can’t even imagine what they have gone through to begin the grieving process because it takes a long time especially when what happened and how it happened to innocent little kids were probably just playing and I can’t talk about this anymore
@@Joshua-ug4db lol, I Have jumped with a parachute and paraglided before. ...I haven't dug into Briggs-Meyers with my psychologist, when I had one. I was just thinking, that the way you mention about learning about yourself and understanding your own motives, sounds very much like INFP. INFPs constantly check on their own values and make sure they adhere to them, they want to understand the "Whys" behind their behavior/set of beliefs.
Dude, thank you for this video. I've been confused about this for so long. I've taken the different personality tests a few times, and it almost always labeled me as INFP, but now, after a few weeks of grappling with this and watching different videos about the cognitive functions, I'm pretty certain I'm actually an INFJ. Your video helped celar up a few things. Mainly the confusion between Introverted J and P types. Yours was the first video I've seen that actually cleared up that confusion for me. Also, I was very unclear about the difference between Introverted and extraverted intuition. I knew I was a strong intuitive type, but I didn't know which. I thought my difficulty with focusing on details of the outside world meant I had extraverted intuition, when that's actually a product of my inferior Extraverted Sensing. (I can focus on details, but I have to remind myself to do it) Thank you for helping me figure out a bit more of who I am, and how I interact with the world. It's weird, because going by the type descriptions, I sound a lot like the INFP, but when looking at the cognitive functions INFJ makes much more sense.
don't wanna say much but Clayyy you changed ALL of my opinions thank you so much for helping me with finding out why I am the way I am I'm an INFP but I always thought I mostly seem to be an INFJ. thanks to this amazing video of yours, I eventually made sure that I am an absolute INFP and I feel like a HUGE problem is solved now! Again, thank you so much for everything :D
Yes when INFJs forget to eat, not notice things right in front of them, or cannot recall a specific emotion they had 20 years ago and bring it right back on command, INFPs tend to get confused by it. Most INFPs have fairly good Si but our polr Se can make life weird at times. The past often does feel more real than the present because the past has already been cataloged, with all its events and emotions, but the present is happening as we speak and we don't have any frame of reference for it yet until after it happens. The future feels less real than the past but is exiting so I find INFPs tend to either live in the past or the future much of the time. With Ne, often chasing the idea itself becomes more important than its actual goal or destination. This is both exiting and annoying simultaneously. I deliberately practice presence now. I find it difficult but it has gotten somewhat easier than when I began but its very hard to keep up doing it for any length of time. Very draining.
I’m only writing because I’m so confused. I’m positive I’m an INFP but I feel the exact opposite. I feel like the past is so confusing and unreal. It’s like I was in la la land and the present moment is more real. I begin to think did this or that really happen or did I make it up. Sorry if it sounds strange. I’m a beginner at learning the mbti functions😅
@@chrishernan4490 No worries about being confused, oftentimes finding your type takes time. You may want to consider you may be an ISFP vs INFP. They tend to be a lot more present than INFPs. What you described here *may* have been having Se and Ni as your two middle functions. It sounds like you have fairly weak Si and that your Se seems a lot stronger. Hope things helps :)
Yep. For me thinking about the future is more comfortable than the past or present. I don't remember the past much at all. Except when a song comes on and opens my memory of an emotion more than actual events.
@@FromG2eminor wow, so interesting. I can't even imagine being like that. I can still bring back the exact emotion I was feeling in certain situations when I was very young (back to age 2) and can remember with detail what the physical environment looked like and in some cases, even what I was wearing. Very in touch with how I feel and in some cases, quite framed around the subjective experiences of my past. For me, im either living in the past with Si or the future of possibilities with Ne, but the present is challenging for me to sit with in the same way.
@@melbeth79 I really could never see myself as an isfp. I don't believe to be down to earth. I'm always in my head. I fake my personality a lot of the times. At work I don't feel like saying hi to anyone it is exhausting but I try my best to make small talk. It's so hard for me to make small talk. I hate small talk but try to be politeful and respectful to others. I usually only feel comfortable saying hi or talking to others that I feel I can actually connect with.
Difference is easy, do you try and create a good connection with others, or only when you feel it? Latter is INFP, warm on inside, cold on outside. INFJ is the opposite, we feel crap inside but love to please people externally, this we are generally warm to others.
@@AshtonKohleralways feeling so out of place and beating myself up as to why?? After watching this, so many things came together. I now after so long of thinking and overthinking and analyzing everything.. just to try to make sense of everything that didn't make sense, was explained in a way that my complicate everything by 10× brain just accepted it without any complications. I can get better acquainted with myself knowing what and why I'm this way..
I really enjoy your ability to articulate the elementary bits and pieces that make up the personality types. I married young. My husband had 3 children. LOL. I am an INFJ. This makes it clear to me, why I am starting to feel like a grown up. At 63 years old, living in the woods, I have the opportunity to free me. It is a deeply satisfying process. At age 30 I had 4 teenagers. By 57, I had been widowed twice. Instead of being empty, this part of my life is filled with enjoyable self exploration. I love finding the unadulterated me in me. Thank you!
So I've taken the Myers Briggs personality tests multiple times over my lifetime. As a child I got INFP and as an adult I usually get INFJ. I wasn't sure how the 2 were different and honestly I've been trying to understand this because the 2 are so similar. After watching this I'm 100% sure that I am an INFJ (at least now) but I feel like I truly was an INFP as a child who grew into being an INFJ just from life experiences. Anyone else have similar experiences? Maybe I was actually always an INFJ and just didn't have as much self awareness 🤷. I'm only 10 minutes into the video rn, so there's still a lot more to hear and learn, but I just thought I'd share and see if maybe anyone else has had an experience like mine.
I know this is an old comment, but I’d like to mention that the INFP has an ENFJ shadow, and the INFJ has an ENFP shadow. You could be in shadow mode now or perhaps when you were a child; this could explain your experience.
This is pretty common and has to do with the technicalities of how the test is contructed, more than anything else. The questions for the J-P dychotomy all have to do with coscientiousness (being orderly, on time, organized, industrious etc). J correlates with higher coscientiousness scores, P with lower. BUT, we know that conscientiousness increases growing up. Even the Ps need to learn the organizational requirements of adulthood. So its pretty normal for a well-adjusted adult P to come out J. But as the video says, if you look at the cognitive functions, the difference is pretty clear. Unfortunately there is no test for cognitive functions, only for the behavioral traits that correlate with them. I honestly don't think such a test is even possible. All we are left with is introspection really
@@Loudumer What about an INFJ having an ISFP shadow as a child? I was an unhealthy child in many ways. Was selfish and pessimistic about life. I could sometimes be funny and make people laugh pretty hard with my antics but depression and seriousness would always come back. I daydreamed a lot and imagined living in a perfect world a lot. I didn’t have friends... too scared to talk to people. I always desired one best friend... not a lot of friends. I always enjoyed being out in nature, still do. I enjoyed time alone in ny thoughts. Still do, so I can reflect on many things happening inside my soul and outside events.
I have also tested out as INFP and INFJ in approximately equal frequency ... It would be interesting to know how different types coped with the pandemic.
@@kthybrown007 I am a lifelong INFJ and I personally did very well in the pandemic. I was careful for me and my family and conscientious of other people when I was out and about and didn't have issues wearing a mask (because it seemed trivial to me), but I also didn't get wrapped up in fear and worry. I also loved being at home without needing any excuses as to why I wasn't being sociable outside my household (my husband, sons, and myself).😊 The hardest part for me was seeing what everyone else was going through and dealing with. I pick up on everyone else feelings and energy whether I am in person with them, over the phone, or it's strangers on Social Media or the News. I had to really limit my exposure to TV/News because the feelings, fears, stress, depression and overwhelming suffering could just wrap itself around me if I wasn't careful. Luckily, I have a deep, daily meditation practice that really helped/helps with that and I've learned to clear my energy field every day (took me a while to catch on to that😏) And yes, it was VERY hard to meditate when I first started as my analytical, fast paced thinking was hard to control and was always fighting with my actual perception/intuition. But that gets better with time. I call myself a skeptical believer😊 How was it for you during the pandemic?
Thanks for this insightful and very clear description of the two types. I'm one of those people who get INFP and INFJ on the same test taken at different times in my life, and most recently INTJ. (Those tests are kinda garbage anyways.) After listening to this it 100% affirms what I had believed was my true type - INFJ.
I just came across your channel and I have to say this is probably the single most informative video about MBTI types I’ve seen. Thank you for laying it out so clearly and taking the bigger concepts apart step by step! Not to bring anyone else down, but I find that most youtubers who make videos about this topic tend to just make very generalised statements and focus on the abbreviations rather that the cognitive functions, which just makes the system seem shallow. Also, as an INFJ with an INFP best friend/love interest, I found this particular video extremely insightful - it makes so much sense why we’re drawn to each other, with our cognitive functions being complimentary.
I took the Myers Briggs test twice and got INFJ first time and INFP second time and man were these claims on point! Great video! You distinguished them pretty well bc i can relate to both!
On minute 16:42, I totally relate to that! I do it very often, and I only realised it after I was told that I do it, by more than one person, nowadays I aware of this behaviour but still I "need to do it sometimes". I practise meditation from the past 25 years... it helps me to observe myself, I'm really good in observing people, but meditation helps me to see myself too and it improves my intuition like anything! We INFJs are naturally very intuitive, but after meditating it becomes something almost scary! Hahaha. I'm a people pleaser (trying to improve this aspect in me, but with no big results) and because my intuition is very strong I can literally feel what people feel and then I feel prompt to help them.
There must be chemical or physiological differences between the personalities. If I could cure myself of INFJ I would because it isn't really acceptable as part of the culture where I live. I wish I had a family member I could relate to but we think so differently.
You did an excellent job of explaining the differences through cognitive functions. I typed myself as an INFJ through a book a very long time ago. I'm also lucky enough to have an INFP step-mother and an INTJ father, so I could easily see the differences in how our brains processed things through conversations that made it more apparent, but even I have questioned it sometimes. I think you touched on one of the things that really trips up new people typing themselves with the J/P function that is often talked about with how spontaneous or organized you are. I don't think people understand how much who you are around and how tired or stressed you are can affect how you seem sometimes compared to how you truly are when you start digging into cognitive functions. Like I'm organized, but I might not look like it because my desk has piles on it. And I absolutely suck at making and sticking to a schedule when I'm at home, but get me in work environment and I know what I need to do and when. I can definitely identify with the SE experience. While I don't recall cutting myself and not realizing it, I often find bruises on my arms and legs and have no memory of running into something hard enough to have caused it.
First, thank you for giving so much of yourself in this video. Your insightful, personal input is truly valuable. Breaking down the differences side by side with graphic representations really helped me understand the hierarchy of the traits. And see just how different the two types are. I took a very detailed MB test in college with an INFJ result. But, every other test I’ve taken has been less in depth and received INFP results. After watching this I am certain that my initial test was right. I am also an HSP (highly sensitive person) and energetically empathetic beyond just personality type. So I am learning that I have to actively manage my urge to make everyone around me comfortable and at ease. Because when they are at ease, so am I. But I will sacrifice my own needs in the process. And then we all feel better but I’m exhausted! I also found the video really entertaining because, now, there is no doubt that my husband is totally an INFP and it was like you were talking about US. I laughed out loud several times. 😄 Great video. Will definitely subscribe!
I really enjoyed this video. I'm definitely an INFP through and through. I am very driven and don't struggle to know what's a definitive yes and no when it comes to what I want to do. I'm however learning how to remain laser focused once I've made a decision. In the past I'd tend to want to "try out" different things but I've noticed that has shifted this year. I'm having a desire to gain mastery in some skills and approaches that I'm passing on the usual lure of "shiny objects". So I could very much relate to that mention in your video. So many wonderful nuggets, I'll definitely be rewatching and digesting it all.
I relate to this a lot as an INFP over 40. I'm the same way now. Takes us a while to get that focus and not have anxiety that there is always a better path than the one we are on.
Thanks, this was nicely explained and is helping sort out some aspects I've been mulling over. I'm primarily INFP, though I slide readily to INFJ (family's preference). Life has provided the impetus for exploration of self, leading to more confidence. Gradually people-pleasing has given way to living my values more. Examining spirituality has been part of the drive for authenticity-- It's less about fitting into a societal group, and more about a direct relationship with the divine.
Thank you so much for the immense time spent clarifying the subtle, and also, the distinct differences of these two personalities in a particularly profound way. Your explanations offered with examples really, really helped. Well done sir!
This gave me so much insight thank you!!! I’ve been an INFJ forever, but recently took the test again to find I changed to an INFP. This helped me figure out what changed in me over the years. I appreciate it
Thank you, Clay! Just recently found your channel, amazing :) For me, the most confusing thing is Si. I'm an INFJ, I think. Well, at least 3 tests showed that, but one test came out with a very interesting results: Ni, Fe, Ti and Si. I'm very future oriented, but also quite nostalgic. I love to watch my old pictures, collect my old stuff and when I listen to music from the past, I can feel past feelings. But as one person in the comments wrote, maybe it's because without these things I couldn't remember. Like I need some artefact or something. For example, right now we are selling my childhood house, and I'm extremely sad about it. It looks and feels like my childhood will be lost. Maybe some other INFJ's have similar experiences?
Thank you so much! As I listened to your discussion of introverted intuition, I suddenly realized that this was a perfect "outside" description of a foundational aspect of my character, which I have known about for a long time, but only recently acknowledged and celebrated in the continuing journey to increased self-love. I am very overjoyed with my introverted intuition, which ensures that I always "come back" (to myself), no matter how circumstances of environment and society conspire to divert me to their ends -- so much so that I have named it "The Ox". You're absolutely right (in my experience), that this function operates invisibly to me, and may take a _very_ long time to complete any given goal/task (atm my record is 16 years from initial intuition of a goal to succesful completion, but it did get done -- and well-done -- and it's not named "The Fleet-Footed Stag", after all). But I have over 50 years of observation to confirm that when The Ox starts to move, the thing *_will_* get done. It won't look like it, probably for quite a while. And then, in the middle of quite ordinary-seeming "nothing much happening", there will come an internal "ping!" (compile complete), and then everything will roll forward very fast indeed. And I can easily see that it is the conclusion of a process or idea that I myself had; I know that I "did it". So thank you so much for showing me that I am actually a reliable observer of my experience, and that I can draw correct conclusions from my observations. I have been invalidated a lot, so it's good to have an outside check 🙂. I appreciate it!
I am an INFP and my best friend is an INFJ, your video really gave me a much better idea about how we are different and alike. I really appreciate your thoughtful and detailed video!
Thank you for uploading. I feel like this can help out a lot of infp's. For instance, I'm so caught up in my own morals and needs, I know exactly what I'm needing or wanting. It pains me to lie about what I really want.. even if it's just food or what to do that day bc I feel like I am lying to myself. Not to say that I don't care about anyone else's opinions or needs, but I feel like it's so muddy and unclear when it comes to seeking out what others want. I don't want to play guessing games with someone when I know what I'm wanting. This video shows me that even if I think I know exactly what decision I want for myself & others, even with a pure heart, it's time to step back a lil bit & listen to their desires/needs. Even if my head is screaming "girl I know you want Mexican food tonight stop lying", I need to calm it down! I like these videos and forums about this kind of stuff bc it allows ourselves to grow, learn and hold ourselves accountable. ❤️
Thank you so much for this video! I'm an INFJ who thought that he might be actually a mistyped INFP, because I'm not planning through every activity of the day, which is a thing that I've heard it's typical for INFJs. (Though if plans are made, I hate spontaneous changes!) And then you said the things about values and for a moment I thought that I knew them, but all values that came to mind revolved around not hurting others, which is an INFJ trait. The replay of life is spot on, as well, just not the focus on one project. I always see more things, but on most of them I don't stay focused, on the few others I can stay focused for years. Also, what you said about discussions is true, sometimes people change the subject and after a while I'm like "yeah, but what I wanted to say about that topic we had 20 minuets ago..." And especially what you said about becoming a doormat... That's why I gave up a job in customer services. Also, thank you for verifying that introverted thinking is not a bad thing! What you said about introverted sensing also rings true, though; I often get lost in music and memories, which would be more of an INFP thing, which makes me doubt again. Oh, isn't looking at a thing three times without finding it something that everyone does? Thanks for clarifying that INFJs also have beliefs, because when you mentioned the beliefs of INFPs, I instantly thought "oh, could I be INFP after all, because of being a slightly spiritual agnostic?"
This video appeared on my You Tube feed just when I needed it. As an INFJ I often feel like there is something wrong with me. Lately I have been having difficulty with insensitive neighbors dumping their negative stuff on to me and have begun shutting them out to regain my balance. The part about misplacing things that are right in front of you is something I go through all the time, and I could laugh at myself about it! I was beginning to think I was crazy My score came out very close in the P/J category and I think some have called it INFX. I dress very unconventional. But often told I am aloof. Very good to hear this this. morning.
Fi and Te are on an axis and yes it's important for INFPs to develop it as much as possible. I admit I get confused by "subjective logic" Ti because to me, logic "goes out not in". A well developed INFP will want their Fi values to be backed up in the external world through Te facts and data.
Interesting. I like the way you talk about your phenomenalogical experience of Te. I've been trying to explore my experience of my ego functions off and on for a long time. Ti (I'm an INTP) is definitely "inside." It seems like a matrix inside. I definitely experience Te as outside.
Si is like an organic matrix. It's inside, but it definitely stretches deep into the past, which somehow exists in my body as a type of body knowledge. How do you experience Si?
Oh I like that way of describing Si! Yes, there does seem to be a knowing and holding of things from a time very long ago with me as well. Historically I've also experienced it as seeing a person, place, object or hearing a song and immediately connecting it back to certain events in my life. I also experience it as thinking in images when I'm reading or talking to someone and my mind imaging say my bedroom as a child in the house I lived in the longest but I have no clue why. Like what they're talking about seems to have no connection to my childhood bedroom but yet my mind is generating that image. That happens all the time but I'm not sure why. As I get older I am moving away from Si just being nostalgia and finally moving into making the connection that if I do a certain thing again expecting it to go better, Si now says, you may wanna consider what happened last time. Or the last 10 times and not get bitten again. Because when I get hurt I tend to get hurt deep because historically I've been a rescuer of people due to wounds. I still care deeply for people but the development of Si is helping with more balance for me as I get older.
Yes it's quite hard for me to understand Ti but I have heard the best way for me to try to is through Fi since they are both subjective judging functions so I'm trying to. Historically I've struggled with being certain of what I think vs the vibe I'm getting or what I'm feeling or sensing. I tend to trust that a lot more, but as I get older I'm trying to develop more of an understanding of Ti. I suppose Te is like an external checkerboard grid to me of outwardly measurable "rules" of the external plain. If there are too many of these rules I do balk. They have to run through my code of ethics and not be too pointless or restrictive or unequitable. I like Te structure to a point if I feel it's ethical, but yes I tend to understand Te easier.
INFP here. 18:25 under 'occupation' I struggle. I finally type out, "as if I could pick just one?" 22:30, doing lots of projects at the same time. I couldn't finish one before going onto the next to save my life. 26:50, brainstorming out loud. I need others' input to come to my conclusion. 36:00-41:10, catalog experiences, oh yeah. Memorabilia, nostalgic, reminiscing, comparing past to present, to a fault. 45:30-47:20, like Brian, Chotchkie's waiter in Office Space, I always have 37 pieces of flair. Jennifer Aniston only had 15 pieces so she must be an INFJ. 😆 😉 Btw, I 💗you INFJs... (that's me expressing myself!!)
Hey Clay, I think the difference in empathy between INFJ and INFP is that Fe Parent is *empathy* whereas Si Child with Fi Dominant is *sympathy* . So if you as an Si & Fi user have not had any similar experience you are going to have trouble relating to that person.
This is the best video differing the two personalities that I've seen. Thank youuu! I was so confused about my personality type, but now I feel more confident to say I'm INFJ after all
This was so very helpful to me. I always thought I was a bit of a “bad” infp - but the breakdown of cognitive functions illuminated I’ve been mistyping myself. Viewing myself through the infj lens, I’ve felt an immense sense of freedom - at home in myself and viewing some of my internal and external processes as strengths rather than negative attributes I should change. Thank ya!
So the last test I did, told me I was INFJ (the same test I took the first time, but approx. 6 years difference), and I thought I had somehow evolved because I've grown a lot and learned a lot that now I've just suddenly become INFJ. But this video totally clarified it for me which I genuinely appreciate. I understand now that I'm still INFP I just have learned and grown into adopting more INFJ tendencies--I play the middle man more and try really hard to stop my snap judgments in their tracks, and I do the logical research to see if there is evidence to change my mind (along with other trait changes too). Thank you, sincerely. I will say though that you said you envy us our confidence of self, but sometimes it's just a nightmare being INFP because you're sooooo different (I feel like a fruit loop in a world full of cheerios), and you never follow through on any project to completion. You end up feeling extremely, extremely alone and like an abject habitual failure because you never fulfill the end goal/dream. I love this video though because it's just shown me what I've improved upon on my own in order to overcome some of the difficulties of being INFP, and also shown me some very interesting things I never would have thought about or realized that I still have yet to work on. Again, THANK YOU.
As an INFP, I see someone whos values don't align with mines as disrespect, I hate bitchiness. I have empathy on a lot of levels but because I'm good at getting to know people on a deeper level, often times I will develop a really close friendship, then they will let their guard down and it's not pretty a lot of the time. I have had a lot of explosive arguments with people because I bury my feelings until the last minute, then before you know it a best friend has become an enemy. But I have ridiculous standards that even I don't live up to. It's a hard world lol
Def I think if you can't figure out where your lines are.. it kinda shows someone's true self. And saying u don't know where ubstand.. on things that are so simple seems fake and putting on a mask. So if infps don't like that I'm 100 infp. I don't care about lies.. but I do care about values of what makes a good person. And I don't like people that can stab others because they well " don't really know where they stand"
This video really helped! For a long while I struggled in finding my personality. It was hard to understand each function and even though I got INFJ in the tests, it turned out tests are often incorrect so it drove me nuts trying to verify my type. I thought I could be INFP or ENFJ... the things that helped was watching more videos that explain the functions and observing other INFJs.
I just want to say this is the most detail and accurate video I've found explaining the differences of infj and infp, I've watched the whole 50 minutes of it. Something I want to point out as an infp, although I often make decision based on my preferences, values and current mood, sometimes my values are not really that consistence, and I am not knowing myself as much as you suggested in the video. I think maybe the Ne has shown me all other possibilities and kept me from having one rigid value system or mindset, and made me skeptical about myself. Also, when there is a disagreement or conflict, I am not quite able to defend my values or believes because I just hate confrontation and I am not good at backing up my idea fluently with reasons and logic.
I am so flattered by your thought process of nfp’s at the end , because growing up as very infp I alway wished so badly all the time that i could just think like everyone else so that maybe i could be seen as me. But growing up i found there was a tug and pull to that , being literally an emotional dumping ground when it was i who was asked to express what i was or am going through. Because i have relatable experiences in my stories people tend to turn it into their own and then we are talking about what they feel and have to deal with, and the second i try to make a fuller circle to how that correlates to me, the person will become angry with me and im not alway sure why… so hearing you say you wish you had thoughts like us is something i needed, thank you! And i do believe in God :) but in my own experience
This was extremely helpful. I always wonder if I might be INFP even though everything always points toward INFJ. Just my obsessive nature I think. So, thank you! For me, when I’m stressed the skewed extroverted sensing makes me VERY clumsy. I also miss so many details around me because I’m far too deep in my head. When that happens, I resort to obsessive cleaning, listening to super loud music, or a movie marathon just to try to keep my focus on the outside. Also, you are very right about us not being able to fully gauge how bad we are at something that we are bad at, at least until something forces us to look deeper. I noticed I am horrible at knowing how I’m feeling or sitting with my feelings. I noticed my way of dealing with feelings is basically not dealing with them at all and being irritable, frustrated and stressed that I even have them. That just makes everything worse. I was able to notice this because recently there was a loss in the family and usually my INFP helps me work through my what I’m feeling by asking questions and making me acknowledge them and dig deeper. This time, however, being that the loss was much closer to his heart than mine I had no help working through my feelings and worse yet, needed to help him through his. I had to get away from him to be able to process what I was feeling first before I could even attempt to help him. Otherwise, I would’ve just taken on his feelings and become irritable because I just don’t do feelings properly. Sorry for the book it’s just your video has been very eye opening for me. Again, thank you.
I feel you about the 'being clumsy' thing. I happen to be very clumsy as well, falling, tripping, fainting, dropping stuff that I'm holding, it probably makes me look quite stupid to be frank and it gets worse when I'm nervous. Best timing ever.
BirkeClara Soooo relatable! Yes that is exactly how I fear I look. Now I’m not as anxious as in my younger years so it helps a bit in that sense. However, I’ve adapted an even worse way of coping, I become really upset at my own clumsiness throw whatever it may be, on the floor and yell out a few curse words and storm off to just be with myself for a few. Not proud of it, but hey. 😂
I think I have qualities of both, but when I was younger, I was a solid INFJ. As I got older, I became more of an INFP with INFJ tendencies. Perhaps, as I get even older, I’ll grow into my INFP-ness. It makes even more sense when you say that you’re an INFJ and your mom is a solid INFP.
I think I’m slowly going through the same thing, I’d say my mother is also a solid INFP and used to be a complete INFJ but the lines are getting a bit blurred as i get older too. I wonder if this kind of shifting is common for these personalities 🤔
You just wrote exactly what I was trying to say in the past 5 minutes. It's interesting how INFPs and INFJs are so closely related. I'm somewhat the same... I am most definitely an INFP, but I had INFJ traits when I was younger (which was a very turbulent time for me). I was very confused about the world and myself, I never knew where I should stand and I was a classic people pleaser. I had a lot of difficulty understanding what I felt about anything and I always had this feeling of being stuck in a tight skin that I couldn't free myself from... like I could never be myself. As time passed I gradually began to understand myself and my inner workings and "became" more INFP. That was when I felt relieved and more "free." It was a kind of lightbulb moment, like I was finally able to shed that tight skin away and just be me.
Exactly how I feel! To a certain extent of course but some qualities of the INFJ I have not because I value it but I just do it like the restaurant thing and the values being floaty or whatever i hopefully I grow into my authenticity more wishing us da best of luck
@@givemeyoureyes7 I’m so happy for you! I had kinda(the ending is a bit different) a similar experience I hope I get better at being a more stable infp
INFJ-SE- I was starting to think about the onset of dementia so thanks for clearing up the reason why I forget and not see things when they are right in my face.
First of all, your voice is not only calm but clear. Secondly, you explain quite well. Thank you for both of those things! Not everyone on here or anywhere for that matter does that… Instantly subscribed to your channel because I’d like to watch more of your videos
As an INFP myself, find you adorable. Love your considerate manners. The way you explain/talk is completely genuine and can relate to every word you say. Just loving your authentic self and thank you for this video.
I, as an INFJ, was so entangled in other ppls feelings I had to "isolate" myself (move into a solo apt and have only essential contact) for a number of months in order to even begin to know what I was feeling inside.
I had to get off social media (facebook/instagram) because of this reason. Actually a lot of it was realizing and being infuriated by the stupidity/false information/people ranting about things. Me as an INFJ wanting to correct them, writing a huge thing then not sending it. OR if I posted something I was passionate about that may be taboo or controversial I'd find myself deleting it in fear of causing conflicts between people I know.
I thought I was an infp because I related to a lot of stuff but I've always felt more logic based and didn't understand how could people could say what's on their minds without tact or consideration of others. Thanks to this video I could realize that I am actually an INFJ. And honestly since the beginning I thought I was an INFJ but that stupid 16 personality site always told me I'm an Infp and I was just left unsatisfied. Thankyou so much Clay😌
I'm at the 10 min mark and so far you're doing pretty good. I have a little side gig where I type people sometimes and I have people come to me confused about the difference between these two types. From my perspective as an Fi dominant, it's very hard for me to understand how a person couldn't know how they feel or what their values are. That doesn't make much sense to me to be honest so that is one huge test right there. I also find that INFJs not only struggle a lot more with what identity is, but they overcomplicate the heck out of it to me as well and get in crazy Ni-Ti loops about it (when they do this it drives me nuts 🙃) INFPs are more included to just have "a knowing" of themselves and thier identity. I should also add regarding harmony that due to how incredibly subjective Fi is and how it tends to loop with an INFP's Si, if they value people pleasing, it can happen. It all depends upon the Fi subjective. Also, Fi doms tend to value social harmony just as Fe people do but for different reasons, so when typing, one has to look at intent. Fe does it to consider the feelings of the group but Fi often does it so their inner spirit will not feel unsettled and ill at ease because it can sense when things are off and that creates ugh inside them. Okay, onto watching the rest now...
Gonna ask you what I posted to the thread-- I thought I was an INFP until I watched this video bc that's what the test said 3 times. Now I'm thinking I'm an INFJ. The biggest thing for me is taking a long time to make decisions because I need all the info- the one thing that's still confusing is that I feel more scatterbrained at times than focused on one goal because I tend to focus on so many different details. However once I've made up my mind it is hard to change unless I come across new information that changes my perception of a situation or problem, and then the decision making process is back to square one sometimes. The other thing is I know I.have started a lot of different things, but I determine which ones are worthy of finishing and which to avoid, after time. I sometimes delay making decisions because I haven't had time to reason out all the possibilities. I like having a schedule but hate making it because of all the thinking involved in which activity should come first, second, third etc and can't decisively say how I feel about something on the sky unless I've spent a lot of time already reasoning through it. The ones thing holding me back from saying INFJ is what you said about your friend but I know from experience I can spend a year or longer focused on something before I determine to stop as long as outside circumstances don't intervene and affect my decision ... What do you think?? Am I just wishing I was an INFJ?
@@SarahRRedman Hello, sorry it's taken me a week to respond! I seen this notification then got waiste deep in exam prep (mature student 3rd yr of U). If you can't pinpoint how you feel about things right away without having to think about it, that would probably indicate Fe. I don't know how I feel about everything 100% of the time instantly, but the percentage is still pretty high that I usually do. The times I don't is usually if it's something totally new and off the wall and doesn't immediately fit into my existing Fi-Si framework. Even then, its rare for me to not know how I feel though. INFJs are a lead perceiving type and INFPs are a lead judging type. For this reason, I actually prefer the way socionics labels them better because the J and P are flipped, ie: an INFJ in socionics is an INFp. It just makes more sense to me. Lead Ni does not "judge" anything, it "takes in" the world into the person's vast existing plethora of abstract (and subjective to the individual) framework and links it to Ti to form a "subjective logic". Because I'm a Te user, I'm often confused by this "subjective logic" and tend to view logic as "going outward" and objective as opposed to subjective. How do you see logic? Going in or out? It has been my personal experience from the INFJs I've known that their Ni-Ti gets quite hung up on things they can't possibly know or get the answers to. For example, my friend kept saying about someone, "I keep wondering what was in person X's head before and after he did X to you and others". But unless you actually became that person, there is no way to know this. I told her, what you see is the evidence in the real world and how he reacted. Unless she performed a Vulcan mind meld she can't possibly ever know that. Her mentality is Ti and mine here is Te. Which would you lean towards? Lead Fi "judges" what it sees by reacting to it based on an already existing internal framework of subjective ethics and values, and can't separate their ethics, values, feelings from their logic, which tends to be more objective and wants to be provable externally by evidence whenever possible. They essentially all become a giant stew of intersectionality in decision making. INFJs are a lot more detached from their feelings and INFPs and are much more outside of them looking in. I can't relate to that at all. Do you ever question where your feelings stop and another's begin? This is also an INFJ thing. INFPs get confused by how anyone could not know the difference. Hope this helps! If you have any other questions, feel free :)
@@melbeth79 Holy crap... If you compared a post of yours to one of mine, you couldn't tell the difference. Even our references are the same. You're very precise with your language, examples, and empirical/phenomenalogical descriptions. I beg people to tell me their experiences of their functions but it's so hard to get my friends and most people I am to do it lol! I'd say you're better with Ti than you know. I bet it's aiding Fi all sly-like, right now. Fi demon feels annoyingly restrictive, whereas Ti models dictate the equivalent conclusions and don't feel restrictive lol. How about you with Ti?
@@NatsGhost Oh cool, very interesting. It's probably because I'm a writer and I've been crafting how to be descriptive for years. The Ti thing has been quite frustrating for me in my life and actually be sure of what I think vs what I'm vibing on, sensing and feeling (which is way easier) has been a big struggle. How that I'm older I'm finally learning to have more confidence in what I think, as in yeah I'm allowed to think what I think here. I'm a mature student in 3rd year of university so this has also helped me develop my critical thinking and think less in loops that go round and round and go nowhere to actually learning to think more constructively. Also, Si is good at describing things and I have a pretty developed Si child so that is also part of it for me I'm sure. Sometimes I notice things more than the sensors around me, I did this a lot when I worked with a cleaning partner. I'd know how the physical environment looked and would have a distinct snapshot of that in my mind. I'd say to the person the next day, oh, where did the chair go or why is that picture not on the wall anymore? He'd be like oh I didn't notice. I was always like..what? Lol.
@@melbeth79 Isn't Si child such a joy? I'm an INTP, and absolutely concur with your descriptions of it. I sense matrices, my Ti is absolutely a matrix, my Si is like an organic matrix and the information doesn't feel centered in my head like Ti, but in my body. I lived on the street growing up (wouldn't change it for the world lol) and I was given the chance to really develop Si and Ni at a much earlier age than most INTPs. Ni seems like a giant lake inside of me, and occasionally important information jumps up like a fish. (And woe to me when I don't heed it, or I'm too noisy to notice...) Si is like spacetime recorded in my body and it's like I move along its contours (so yes, it's easy to find things because it's like my body has a map, does it feel like a map?), and Ti is a very abstract, unclassified, matrix that I fully interact with. Where in you does Si seem to be operating? What is your experience of Ni, Fi, Si, Ne? Like where in you are they? Actually some are outside of me, so however you need to describe it lol. Ti is everywhere, both inside and outside of me. Fi is inside only and seems like a whiner (I'm still trying😔 poor Fi), Ne starts in me and is like a spider web that reaches out and dances with things to find their pattern.... This is haphazard, and I have to run, but I'm excited to hear another person's actual experiences with their functioning! Plus I think Fi is so undervalued and ignored, and someday I hope we honor our cognitive diversity more as a species. I do always just want to give Fi users big 🤗. You guys need it😔
Late to the party again…but I had to say you’re fun to listen to. I liked learning about the function stacks. This video helped me understand my INFP husband better. He is a strong individualist, secure in his beliefs and values and doesn’t enjoy mixing it up with alternative ideas. He definitely loves to explore infinite options, even after a choice has been made. He’s a prolific writer and has plenty of ideas stored up to work from. He’s also a sentimental guy who relishes his past memories, music and ideals. I, on the other hand, am a staunch INFJ. I’m less secure about myself than he is, which irritates me, lol. I like to use my introverted intuition for creative imagination, Problem solving and inventing new ways of being- which he finds amusing, but not convincing. Anyway, hearing this helped me appreciate our differences more, as you so astutely pointed out. That’s also why I enjoy learning about personalities. Thank you. I like your idea about having video questions…how’s that coming along?
9:08 Is that a chuckle?? Thanks for this video. Really thought provoking. My brother gave me the MB when I was like in the 3rd grade and the 7th grade (lol-he was a teenager) and I went from INFJ to INFP. I definitely feel that quality of information coming in and me deciding is that good or not. Often my art has a moral note and absolutely check in with my interior compass--this helps a lot to guide the characters in my writing and see how they are interacting/creating meaning. I think that's how so many INFP's are novelists. Def. still recovering from avoiding conflict though. Lots to consider!
Thanks so much for this! I’m honestly still not sure whether I am an INFP or an INFJ, but this made me think perhaps I am an INFJ. The only thing I can go on really is that I am definitely feeling & intuition dominated & am definitely an introverted thinker. I’ve more often tested as an INFP on tests, but sometimes as an INFJ. When I do cognitive functions tests I test very high in Fi, Fe, Ni & Ne to be honest (I test higher in Fi & Ni than I do in Fe or Ne). I also test fairly high on Ti. My Si & Se are much lower & at a similar level & I score nearly (& sometimes absolute) 0 on Te. I don’t know… I feel I am quite individualistic in some ways (I’m literally wearing a Casper the friendly ghost dress!) & have a strong connection to memories & past experiences like an INFP… but I like a bit of structure in the muted way described here (I can mainly take or leave structure, but I plan trips carefully & in general structure doesn’t bother me… but I’d rather planned events likely, but I don’t plan tasks or crave structure) & I related more to the descriptions of most of the thought processes more of the INFJ than INFP. But I relate to some bits of INFP too. I’m not totally sure though! I mean if those cognitive functions tests are accurate, I feel like maybe I don’t fit too well with any mbti personality!?! I am definitely more of a logical thinker at the root of myself I think. But I’m not without any magical beliefs… I like to think robins are lucky for example. But I don’t really *believe* they are, you know. (I kind of do.) But my Mum was religious & as a teen I had a logical internal discussion with myself to settle in my own beliefs. (I do not believe.) I also did a maths degree & found maths easy. I have a logical side to my brain. And I’m now a music therapist. I improvise music all day every day in work & am very spontaneous… but (sadly) I don’t personally create much if at all. I don’t really even think of myself as a musician. Though I’m lucky to be able to use music in my work. I feel like I do have strong values but I am not too sure how much I know myself versus how much I want external harmony versus how much I value authenticity versus all these things. I do know I am a walkover & can end up being used very easily. But although I cannot escape that happening alllll the time, I do feel quite resentful of it when it happens to an extreme. I mean I also accept it, but I wish I could escape. Which is feeling like I want my space not their harmony, sooo…. I feel like I just feel others’ feelings, but I’m not sure. Because when I watch art that moves me I simultaneously just feel that & can relate it to my own & actually even more often - other people in theory or people that I know - to their past experiences. Hmm… I wonder if I really am one or the other.
Love this video/discussion!! I was working at a drug/alcohol rehab center and one of the topics I came across was the topic of values... values?... 🤔... what are values? I had to research this at 32 😆 There are plenty of times when I’ve seen things, like a woman friend slapping her bf, a drug addicted woman having a baby when a non-addicted baby wants to terminate her pregnancy, etc. and something hits me like this doesn’t feel right, there’s something wrong about this, but I won’t say anything. I’ll just figure out how to get out of whatever dynamic is rubbing against me. I’m experiencing this in school with the social media/social justice narrative trending. A lot of students sound brainwashed repeating the same one sided narrative. My heart races, my body gets tense, and I don’t want to be there BUT I stay because I’m trying to get through the program and get out. I can now sense when my values don’t align but I’m still working on actually being able to go against the group and say something. It also takes a while for me to make a change because I need the quiet time and space to let it marinate (usually days, months, or years depending on how big the decision). But once the decision is made we are fast and swift at taking action to reach a conclusion. It took me 32 years to get in touch with an abstract concept like “values”. When we make schedules we marry it, generally. We say we like schedules but we avoid it BECAUSE we marry it. We aren’t the type that will make a schedule and half ass it. It’s all or nothing. This nature can make INFJs appear contradictory. In the way that some INFPs express themselves through dress can in contrast make an INFJ look uptight, rigid, and judgmental but in actuality Fi can make INFPs seem more judgmental and closed minded. INFPs rely and end on their values and where they want to go with those beliefs regardless of how it makes others feel. INFJs are much more fluid and perceiving in how we evaluate new beliefs, whether we adopt and go anywhere with them that’s another thing, BUT we will consider various beliefs whether or not they ultimately align with any values we have.
I'm an INFP and now that I'm in my 30's that is my attitude now, ha ha. Just going to be my true self, and if you like me, awesome, but if not, oh, well. Guess we're not meant to be friends, ha ha.
I took 4 different tests to find out who I am and every time it was coming up as a Advocate INFJ but listen to you I’m more convinced that I am indeed a INFJ thankyou for explaining this in greater detail.❤
Excellent analysis! A life long INFP friend and I - INFJ, were listening to you and saw each-other in the examples you presented! (I am binge watching your videos) Thank you!
So can someone flip? In my youth I exemplified INFP, down to the loud clothes (camoflauge and tie-dye anyone?). I'm almost 40 and my whole wardrobe is black and I fit many other indications/patterns of the INFJ (need for social harmony, visionary of future events, hates chaos in environment, etc). But as you noted, it is not just a letter flip, the cognitive functions are different...
Thanks , I think I figured out I am am an INFJ not and INFP. You mentioned INFJs tendencies to have a lot of ideas and things going on at once, making it hard to fully develop one project. I’m afraid on my headstone it will say that I was “a jack of all trades but the master of none” and I hate that idea. Please do a video that makes suggestions on how INFJs can stay focused on their best ideas.
This is so interesting! I’m an INFP and I have struggled a lot lately… I feel like I’m so selfish bc every time someone tell me something I automatically connect the situation to something what also happened to me and tell them how I was feeling the same thing with my experience but then I tell myself to shut up because now someone else is telling something and not me… and after your video I understand more and maybe that’s really just a part of my personality (Fi, Si)…I hope this makes sense 😅
As an INFP I have learned to at least said to people to let me sleep on things so I can try to be a little bit more flexible and be assertive but it really does have to match my values I have learned to have strong boundaries as someone said once INFP have once has been hurt and have hurt 😞, extraverted intuition is amazing is like we have all those fireworks in our head you can see the bigger picture you can see all those patterns but for us to commit to our ideas we want to make sure this is something we can commit with like how much are we passionate about something to be able to commit on a long therm, also I loved the meditation on the spot that you mum does it made me laugh l do those deep breathing on the spot if I feel disconnected and trying to connect to my inner child or if I have overload of emotion coming due to my intensity, we also understand that we don’t want to follow society rule cause we have an understanding of how it has impacted humanity and not in a good way ! When I am emotional and can play with my Te damn I am becoming really curious and if I research a subject Is like everything making connection in my head it feel amazing but we really to be in a mood for it !
I understand now why there is such a confusion between INFJs thinking they are INFPs sometimes, this video made me think I am as well OR I could say....hmm, NI is my strongest function and SE is so weak, yet I make it stronger by day and it feels so good, yet the energy expenditure is insane! INFJ, but I know what I want in a friend, partner, career(sort of, stil getting there) I know what my values are, I've never been called out for being unconfident, quite the opposite, yet confidence has such a different meaning for everyone. Well, nevertheless, I want to say and I'm happy to share if I trully am an INFJ and any INFJ reading this, I finally know SE is what holding me back from achieving everything I want. Like...I know, deep down I know, not have the information, but I KNOW. Always had these ideas, dreams, known the path towards it, but SE has always hold me back. My suggestion is to focus on that weakness because NI FE comes natural without you thinking of it. Thanks for reading and good luck on your journey!
I found this video very interesting. I remember that I took the test a few years ago and it gave INFJ. I read some things fit , but not everything. A lot of things were happening at that time... so I took the test and didn't try to find out more... recently I did it again and gave INFP. So I went searching to see the differences. One thing that always makes me confused is exactly this issue of Fi and Fe. I always considered myself a person concerned with harmony. But after watching this video I think I'm more Fi. I say this because I started to observe myself in group conversations. And if the group is saying something I'm not interested in I can't pretend to be interested. I would not see funfir interest as keeping harmony... I would see feigning interest as lying... IoI... Keeping harmony would be not to say that the subject is boring me... as it would upset other people. And that's why I've always thought to maintain harmony... I always try to say what I feel without upsetting people... and when I see it's not possible... I just keep quiet... IoI And if I feel uncomfortable in the conversation I just say goodbye and leave... IoI I have a friend who claims to be INFJ so I watched him... and he is very different from me. He is much more aware of what other people are feeling. And if he notices that someone is not participating but would like to participate, he calls that person to talk... Ey, a lot of times I don't even notice because I'm more focused on my feelings... That's the main difference I see... Mais sobre o texto originalÉ necessário fornecer o texto original para ver mais informações sobre a tradução Enviar feedback Painéis laterais
This is one of the best videos for distinguishing between these two types. I’ve flicked between perceiving myself as each of them over and over again. This video has really clarified the distinctions. I’m going back to seeing myself as an INFJ now! Thank you!
The introverted feeling thing is the glaring difference. I believe an INFJ will find that quite hard to relate to. I would say if you relate to both, the INFP would be more likely.
My take is that INFJs, or those who claim to be, are so adamant that they are INFJ, and that they are so different to INFPs and ENFJs etc, when often they are not. They seem to be very good at exaggerated generalizations, when in reality there seems to be a lot more cross over and exceptions. I feel like INFJ, ENFJ, INFP, ENFP all exhibit the same cognitive functions and behaviors at various times depending upon the situation , their mood and whether they are alone, with a partner or on a group etc, if you refer to 8 or more cognitive functions that come into play in different situations, rather than just 4
@@ClayArnall I know you will not able to answer at everything but, can I ask you what did lead you to write this line " I would say if you relate to both, the INFP will be more likely " ? It is more a logical conclusion or rather a personal tought? Sorry for the strange question but is something that I'm intrigued by.
@@andreabriganti8621 because both the personality types are well capable of understanding someone, especially each other. INFJs use a logical way of understanding it, and logic, in most cases, can be understood if explained. On the other hand, INFPs relate it back to their own experiences and moral values, and understand something that way. And it can be challenging for INFJs to do. Hence the statement comes into play. If you connect with both of them, you're most likely an INFP because the way their mind works is not understandable from an outside perspective. And this is not to say that INFJs are easily understandable. They do have Ni, which is impossible to understand. But it is a complicated concept. Fe, or being more in tune with other people's feelings is imaginable, at least to me (INFP). But Fi, or knowing oneself is a completely foreign concept for INFJs. That's why, you're most likely an INFP if you connect with both, because you can't relate to an INFP's level of authenticity unless you are them. And you could be like "oh, but I do have Ni which INFPs can't understand unless they are me", but they won't be able to do that sort of thing because their Fe makes it difficult for them to know their own feelings and/or who they are. (Sorry if I got some things wrong. I can't guarantee that what I'm saying is true for an INFJ. This is merely how things look from my perspective, and from what I have understood from this video. I admit that I may be wrong. However, the goal is to try and set a clearer idea in your mind as to why he said that statement.)
@@doublev4409 I thank you for your explanation but I was curious about where that answer came from. I'm more interested to know if his answer was born from the knowledgement he has about the differences between the 2 personalities, or if that answer came from something more related to his personal experience and feelings. But thanks to give me your opinion. Btw, maybe I misunderstood, but are you an INFP personality type? You think it is possible there are more then this personalities we know? I always ask this question to others and myself, since I still didn't find my place, not entirely, in one of this categories. Sorry for the time I'm taking away from you, if you can't answer don't worry and thanks again.
8:15 " INFJs are often more concerned about other people's feelings than they are of Their Own". Hence why I was a doormat for 30 + years of my life and a great narcissist magnet.
You are probably Fe dominant or ISFJ lol. Either that or you are just a very slow learner. I have learned not to be a doormat since 6th grade. Not immediately successful, but at least I tried.
Ditto
It is often far easier and more beneficial to adapt my own reactions and hence feelings than to expect to be able to or attempt to change these in others. I have far more control over my own mind and it’s contents than I do another person’s.
@@caffemocca8855 Or had some significant trauma along the way, possibly in early childhood. Nothing steamrolls your boundaries quite like family. Marinate in that toxic stew, then go out and make choices that echo the voices of your childhood, and you're set up for decades of remedial work. Not slow as much as having a bigger pile to climb out from under.
Wow, sounds just like my life. Once I realized I'm the one who is being the magnet, I slowly learned the signs to look out for. Boy Howdy, did I suddenly lose a bunch of friends and associations with Family members.
Well, my life is so much better, more in balance and I found- I can say no, or when I help a friend or so out, they know that to be my friend, at times If I need help, they need to be able to return the help just as I have helped them.
Clay, you explained this in a more genuine, thoughtful, and articulate manner than most seasoned psychology professors.
I agree. I've been studying type theories for about 15 years now, and this was one of the freshest and most accurate takes I've heard in awhile.
Plus, he's really CUTE 😍
INFJ's for ya
I totally agree Barbara! (You too Jeff!) 😊
That is because he has "lived it, then reflected, analyzed, and understood it" before speaking on it.
I'm an INFJ as well and when you said we need a REASON for believing things it really made sense to me. That's how I've been my whole life. I strive to find out WHY things are the way they are under the surface
Exactly. I couldn't agree more. One of the most frustrating things to me (when dealing with other personality types) is that some of them insist that the 'why' doesn't matter and are highly annoyed by my need to figure out the 'whys'.
@@onyxwelborne exactly. It's something that has always interested me. I feel like if we truly understand the why's then we have a better understanding of how to solve related problems. If I never figure out how or why something I'm interested in works, then it bothers me and I feel like I only know a fraction of the story.
i cannot talk for all the infp people out there but because i am an analytical infp i tend to collect facts and emotional information by reading and talking to people and find out the most reasonably answer to all the things that happen worldwide or in interactions with others. only listening to opinions of people is not enough because it is to subjektiv and also misleading. if someone really wants to understand circumstances they need to see the whole. ofc that also is a problem for infp like me. we see the whole but the individuum sometimes is an own universe and needs to be thought about seperately. people wonder why infps think so much or are often on their own. thats why. we search for truth of the whole and the individual truth. it takes a lot of time XD
Yup
Cool so I am not the only one who has to break everything down the molecular level then rebuild it to truly understand something therefore be able to make a sound decision.
5:03 - 9:25 Values, ethics & feelings
9:26 - 11:02 Knowing how others feel before knowing how you feel
11:03 - 11:52 Meditation recentering yourself
11:53 - 12:58 Do you know how you feel, do you know all your values, do you know who you are
13:00 - 15:36 People pleasing, maintaining Social Harmony
15:37 - 21:28 Can you make quick decisions are you a quick decision maker or do you ruminate, r u decisive, do u have trouble narrowing it down do you get sidetracked easily.
19:29 - 21:11 Once you come to a conclusion or make a decision do you discard new information & become stubborn or are you open to new information. Sniper analogy.
21:12 - 24:02 INFP’s have trouble laser focusing on something like an INFJ & they have trouble finishing a task they have started.
24:03 - 26:44 INFP’s like to keep their options open so they are more spontaneous & don’t make scheduled plans like INFJ’s. INFP’s don’t like being locked down to a rigid schedule & INFJ’s might feel insulted at the INFP rejecting their need for a schedule. INFJ’s prefer scheduled & structured people.
26:45- 27:40 Difference in introverted & extroverted intuition INFP will speak publicly of their half thought out ideas while an INFJ won’t speak up till they have thought it thoroughly so they might stay quiet for a while & then catch people off guard with how direct they can suddenly be.
27:42 - 30:14 Child position introverted thinking child like logic not tainted by bureaucracy, culture & Tradition. How children say things don’t make sense according to society’s rules.
30:15 - 32:06 introverted thinking is logic and deductive reasoning. INFJ’s can look INTP if they develop their logical way of thinking in a healthy way. Some INFJ’s don’t value their introverted thinking but if you do you can get on the level of a T logical way of thinking.
32:07 - 35:13 Extroverted thinking for INFP’s. INTJ’s & INFJ’s can have great logical & intellectual discussions because functions but for an INFP it’s their weak spot.
35:15 - 39:07 inferior function of INFP extroverted thinking. Introverted thinking is their third better. They are more comfortable with things they have already experienced they don’t like surprises they like reenjoying things they already know about.
39:08 - 41:10 INFP vs INFJ in empathy INFJ absorbs another persons feelings while an INFP relates it to their past experiences so they relive it.
48:24 Jealous of INFP’s they are so confident & know themselves so well.
Took the test a couple of times, years apart, and got that I could be either INFJ or INFP. After watching this amazing explanation I can undoubtedly confirm I'm INFJ down to my core. Thank you Clay! This was truly enlightening.
I got an INFP result recently, and so here I am on UA-cam watching videos on the differences. And, yes, every single detail and the overall picture makes it obvious that I am not an INFP. I think that these tests are good to a point, but as a reference point. I am who I am because of my personality, first, and because of how I deliberately live in response to that personality so I can function in the real world. Therefore, I probably have developed skills, therefore practices, that might differ from the base feeling of who I am -- which I would say is actually who I am. That is the internal me -- the INFJ. The external me (let's say, INFP, sometimes) is just trying to cope as an INFJ.
i always came out infj but I always want to check and check, hahaha. Total infj too
INFP here and I can say that I *am* diplomatic and concerned for the feelings of others to not upset them because this will in turn upset me. So it’s kind of a twisted self-relating decision making. I will go along with the other‘s restaurant choice to have my own peace of mind. But that’s for stuff that’s not important to me on a core value level (a restaurant isn’t 😅). If my core is targeted I will not be diplomatic. But I also probably won’t challenge the other person, I will simply walk away.
Me too
Good break down. Same here.. although I have issues with people pleasing because of childhood trauma. I learned at a young age to read the room and try to anger my father so he wouldn't lash out, constantly worried about saying the wrong thing or making him mad. Because of this I struggle with being able to express my own needs and feelings and become more focused on someone else's happiness sacrificing my own. I didn't even realize how much of an issue it was and how badly it was messing with my core values and true authentic self until recently. Instead I had convinced myself that it wasn't a bad thing at all. Rationalizing it as me being a compassionate empathic person. Although that in a sense is true It doesn't make it healthy. I'm still working on it. Hopefully one day I'll be able to rewire my brain and voice myself also put my needs first.
Sounds like me... 100% 🧚♀️
But i cannot put those things into words...
-infp
YES! Exactly 🙌🏻
yes
Three years ago I was an infj, today I'm an infp. Something happened to me. I think it was shrooms.
Makes sense!
I get you
@@abigailkahiga5179 ❤ Thank you 😭
Funny how that happens.
Me too. I tested a an INFJ a few years ago and then retested like 6 months ago and got INFP. I partook of shrooms during that time. Maybe it's related 🤷♀️ but when I hear Clay explain the differences I feel like the jury is still out on what I actually am. I feel like I'm bouncing between the 2.
"You might see [INFPs] wearing clothes ... that show the world who they are. For example people who wear certain clothes that are very loud..."
[[looks down at own red trousers]]. Ok. You may have a point.
Yeah that shirt more suited to INFJ.
@Kiwi Sound Design sounds like me
My parents told me, that as a 3 year old, I decided I wanted to be a boy and refused to wear anything but boy clothes, and would pull all the hair bows even with pulling some hair with it. 🙄 The self-expression also was always reflected in my hair styles and dying and cutting it in uncommon ways. ...as a teen, I would actually refuse to wear anything that was trendy. I started making clothes as a teen and at some point of my life designer/clothing and costume making was my income.
That's the "I don't care" character of INFPs.
Almost my entire wardrobe is black. I think I have one dark blue shirt (which I don’t like), and that’s it.
I've taken the test several times with the results so very close between INFJ/INFP but ultimately INFP. You were spot on for the most part - I have no problems saying no, immediately pick up when someone is trying to manipulate me, preferring my own company (I am my own best friend), can't stand superficial conversation, always first to leave a party, really do go far down the rabbit hole for everything, do lots of research on multiple topics, love scrapbooking (LOL), never complete a projects (I have soooo many and types), love, love books from spiritual, politics, arts and crafts, gardening, novels of all kinds, self-improvement, biographies, nutrition and health, as well as other topics (have several thousand books but will let go of some occasionally) and so forth. However, like an IFNJ, I do love someone else planning activities rather than me; if I suggest to a friend to get together, they will need to set time and place and I will be there. I never cancel a planned outing or activity because something better came up. I always keep my commitments. Many years ago, I had accepted a date for an event, turned down another event because of my commitment. When that person forgot the date and acted if nothing was wrong - I ended the relationship. Like an INFJ, I do like to blend in as far a dress is concerned but I do have my own style - comfortable. I often go off on a tangent in a conversation but have an absolute need to complete it and will definitely veer back to original topic. I am very opinionated, know what I am talking about but often comes out of my mouth poorly, so I shut up. I am very spiritual, not religious even though I come from a Christian background, and yes, some of my beliefs "are waaayy out there". I have very few close friends (my choice - too much work otherwise) but do get together regularly and socialize with other people, so I am not a hermit. I once went to a 10 year class reunion and was told by several different people they thought I was shy and others thought I was stuck up, I am neither. Go figure.
This sounds very much like myself.
Same. Thanks!❤
Hello me!! You basically said me in a nutshell, right down to not being able to articulate what comes out of my mouth so I shut up. I have been tested as INFP but really feel like INFJ for many reasons.
@@monika.71 So there are other people out there like me. LOL. I have always felt that I beat to the tune of a different drum. I do so envy the people who have the gift of gab - would love to debate (since I have so much to say) but just don't have that quick wit.
@bettinaseelman7043 it seems our gift of gab comes in written form not spoken
I‘m a INFJ and my husband is INFP, your spot on and it explains why we sometimes pull in different direction when we are trying to make decisions but we also work so well together because we learn from each other. I help him focus and he helps me broaden my thinking.
“Do you struggle with who you are? Me an INFJ and potentially a recovering people pleaser, would have a really hard time answering that question” couldn’t relate to a truer statement
Same... I would write a liner comment but that pretty much sums up how I feel. It’s so refreshing to go in the internet and see I’m not line but at the same time I wouldn’t want anyone else to experience that.. yeah
I make sure I only please people who are worth it. Selfish emotional sponges aren’t.
Lol !!! Recovering people pleaser ? Don't quit just include more of yourself in that process ! Learn to kick the can down the road and try some new approaches ! Some of your evidence comes from living don't think that every time you stuck your neck out a little some one's going to chop it off! Live a little ! I walk with my head high ! Not blindfolded mind you," but Level and confident.
@@Coneman3 how do you sort out the worthy and the
" Worthless " I'm sure Jesus had a hard time with that one too ... That thing with it being more blessed to give than to receive . It makes one wonder if any of the 10 commandments are ever obeyed by men that call themselves Christian . I'm not a Christian but behave more like one than so called believers . They call it common sense .I've taken a few under my wing and been disappointed . That's life it doesn't always go as planned but , you have to try just like climate change ,$ It's been long past time to aggressively combat it's onslaught , however we just look At each other in shock and mumble to ourselves about it ! Or should I say most of us do ! What are we going to tell the kids ? We Tried ? Lol we fool ourselves not them .Sometime I feel alone in a room full of people and sometime the life of the party !? I love the earth and all it encompasses save ignorance and cruelty .
this is why energy levels decrease so much. its a struggle to say no sometimes
12:57 INFP would follow his/her own authenticity, but not at the expense of other's desire. INFPs parent function (Ne) respect others choices. So most likely, an INFP will not brake social harmony, but follow others. Staying in their own heads all along. They take charge only, when they feel that representing their values will be appreciated and taken easy by the group or Ne parent function sees each members of the group fit in easily in that "future" what the INFP offer.
thank u, i agree with this so much
the difference is motivation. infjs are emotional harmony. infps are kinda impersonal
@@juliall255 yes, I agree. However, you often go with the flow and don't reveal your true values. Don't you? These values are more like complex feelings than words, so you can't really share clearly. That's why you learn to keep a social distance (stay in your own head) until your values are crystal clear and you're able to express them.
Do you feel it right?
@@juliall255 I think it's also sounds right what you're saying.
Thank you for this was really lost for a couple of minutes thought I was a INFJ for a sec
26:45 INFP may speak out uncomplete thoughts as to speculate the issue. It may not represent one's full thoughts nor does it necessarily have anything to do with final decision. It may be just another cart in the train of thought that passes by and gets terminated before reaching the final destination.
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I’m an INFP through and through. This video put things more plainly for me and helped me understand the difference more. I do believe in social harmony but not at the expense of self-expression. I mirror people’s moods a lot(laugh/cry when they do) but I still have my own separate emotional state. Something that resonated with me is the comfort we derive from past experiences. In my case it’s hard for me to try something new to the point where I downright resent recommendations. I will still recommend things to my friends and family because I want to share the experience with them, or it’s more likely that I’m just looking for validation that what I like is good. On the other hand, when they recommend things to me I immediately shut it down, and it’s like I’m determined to hate it. I’ve struggled with my mental health for most of my life so it’s hard to tell how much of my personality is trauma based, and how much of it is just the way my brain works.
Omg yessss
Same
I'm an INFP too
And I do relate with the mental health part...I've had depression and sometimes it's hard to know if im just the way I am or is it cuz I'm an INFP
Same, and I think I’m pretty INFP. I’ve tested and got both, which is weird. But I can relate to this deeply and that can’t be complete coincidence? lol
Struggling with a brain injury and trauma. How much does this affect cognitive ability as we age.
im infp and hsp...imagine that fun i have not being able to fully concentrate on my own emotions sometimes...yey...dito on the trauma side, i genuinly have the thought that i take everything in my life as a trauma with me though its nothing to others at all. I love recommendations! i love learning new things! or about new things. more stuff i can think about instead putting my mind on the hardships of our system or world around me.
I'm an infp and being fake is the worst feeling ever. Gives me imposter syndrome. But at the same time sometimes pretending to like something that isn't my forte might be the only thing that could keep me in a friend group. And that gets me in a depressive episode.
Thanks a lot, this was the most comprehensible video on the differences between INFJs and INFPs I have seen so far! I now have no doubts I am an INFP. I’m so glad you talked about the inferior functions and how they influence the personality type in the way they are developed. I just realized that in the past I never really fact-checked stuff and always either got super into it if it suited my inner values or discarded it immediately if it didn’t. Over the last couple of years I somehow really worked on that, and am much more open-minded to the opinions of others even if they don’t match my inner values, given ofc that they are somehow science based. Especially when it comes to topics I’m just not that interested in like politics. Back then I just had opinions on everything and thought I was right because it felt right… but now I know it’s much more complicated than that, so I learned to really listen to others who kinda know what they are talking about, gather as much opinions (in all directions) as possible and then decide what makes the most sense. Really appreciate your video, it was an eye-opener!
Is it just me, or do other INFJ'S end up feeling like their most authentic version of themselves around INFP'S?
It's so refreshing!
I would say no...my INFP friend bugs the hell out of me with his self centered way of seeing things...I can't tell him what I think about that because it's very easy to hurt his feelings...and I don't want that... despite that I love how he is able to go his own way...I'm too concerned about how my actions will affect other people 🙄
I'm an INFJ I'm never authentic...I don't know what it means to be that...I adjust to the people around me...I'm a Cameleon who doesn't know which color is my true color 🤔
The only time I think I could consider myself as authentic (whatever that is) is when I'm alone with my thoughts...but even then I struggle with how I feel about things 😬
But if you mean being able to talk about abstract things without feeling like a complete weirdo...the answer is yes...but that goes for my ESFJ friend too...she's very open to listening to me...the thing is though I don't think she truly gets what I'm talking about 😬😁
@@t.c9537 I totally get how hard the self centered part is to deal with. This person is like that too, without even meaning to be half the time, though isn't as easily offended when told so as most INFP'S would be.
There are times I have thought that maybe they are an INFJ with ADHD and depression, since we tend to think and act so much alike. It can be really hard to tell what personality type someone has when they suffer from both.
Also, the chameleon effect can definitely make it difficult to really figure out our authentic selves, but I just don't find the need to automatically enter into some kind of role when this person is around because we genuinely connect in a weird sort of way.
@@wonderingpilgrim I hear you...and of course not all INFPs are the same 🙂
Being a Cameleon is not so much a conscious thing...I'm not playing a role...I automatically adjust to the person or situation ...somehow I just know how to talk and behave to fit in...my identity is a mix of all the people I've met during my life 🙂
Who I really am is not that important to me...I don't go around thinking about that 😁
@@sirmadam8183 ESFJs are the best...so caring...maybe a little bit too much of control freaks...she loves to be the one who plans a vacation 🤭 and sometimes she needs help to stop and think before she acts...she just wants to get started...not like me...I have to think for a long time... but when I finally get started I'm unstoppable and I know exactly how to do things in the most efficient way 😁
She gave me a t-shirt for my birthday with a print that said "I'm not bossy I just have better ideas" 😂
Not at all for the most part. I tend to feel myself more around INTPs or INTJs. They don’t interpret my scatterbrained thoughts as personal attacks.
I think INFJs are more “present” in social circles than INFPs. I have INFPs friends have tendencies to be in their own world and be completely unreachable which make them extremely difficult friends to be with.
The “completely unreachable” is so true. The INFPs I know have such a difficult time understanding anyone else’s point of view. They have an idea or thought that they are set on, regardless if it’s right or wrong, and there’s no convincing them to see otherwise. It’s exhausting.
Jip so true
Agree 100%. I think thats why they like INFJs. We are willing to set aside time to be present with them...all sides of them. I believe they feel this is one of the most important components to a satisfying connection.
Hmm. It depends on the context. I tend to shy away from giant circles, but not from small groups. Also, on the dance floor, I am quite sociable. In terms of friends, I tend to seek out people that read to me as non-judgemental , emotional types, and I have an admiration of anyone who is following the beat of their own drummer, regardless of if I agree with them. Except racists. I appreciate someone trying to get to know me for me, tho.
I disagree. I'm an INFP and I can be pretty extroverted in group settings. I tend to be good at responding, and affirming others while also understanding people's needs. I can be very spaced out and in my head but I can also have a flip switched where I'm engaged with others.
So interesting! I tested 51% INFP, 49% INFJ, and I relate to both very much! Every other topic I related to one or the other. So interesting, thanks for sharing your expertise on the matter!
I'm having the same experience. It can be quite frustrating. But then I remember that it's just a sign that every human being is complex, and these categories can sometimes lead to oversimplifications of the human psyche, so don't get too caught up in the pressure to label yourself within these systems.
I fall right in the center as well. It can change based on life experience. It can change day to day. Discernment is a super valuable tool.
I'm also a INFP 51/49! I was about to comment this exact same thing because I completely relate to both sides of this.
I'm 50/50 :)
oh my gosh me too!!
I am in my 70s with lots of life experiences. Thought I was an INFJ but now I find myself a mixture of INFJ AND INFP. Wonder if life experiences has taught me to adapt or at least to be less of a people pleaser but hold onto being very cognizant of others feelings. I am very authentic but kind about it . I need reasons for my beliefs but have researched them thoroughly. I was a nurse and worked in a new ground floor speciality, functioned very well and stayed in that speciality for almost 50 years. Had to make solid decisions and sometimes quickly but also needed to study the situations to implement new techniques. Liked to be a team member and not the one in charge unless the situation warranted it. Worked with chronically ill patients and became close to many of them. Wondering if life helps us all to grow in good and not-so- good ways. I thoroughly enjoyed your presentation. Who know I may even be another set of initials😅
You are the only person who has been able to explain these differences in a way that I can actually fully understand and pinpoint for myself. Thanks!
I feel like a combination of both.
Me too! I care a whole lot about people's feelings and whether they are okay, and I don't know what I think or feel all the time (I kind of defer to the other people in my life). At the same time, I definitely sympathize easier than I empathize, and though I don't judge things based on my own internal values so much, I definitely value things internally, and don't easily determine whether or not something is outwardly valuable if I have sentimental ties to it (and I can have sentimental ties to a scrap of paper or a dead flower) - I just find myself wanting to keep it because of this one time that I had an experience with it that I want to remember. Lastly, I feel like, though I do take time and internalize and filter my reality before I even speak (Clay I really resonated with your comment about your friend noticing how you just zone out for 20 seconds and then respond) I don't really put on blinders; I get easily distracted, and actually have a hard time finishing projects or staying focused. Please respond if this makes any sense or you know what I am talking about. Or especially if you can explain how these seemingly opposite characteristics (from an MBTI perspective) could coexist.
I feel like this sometimes too, even though I always come up INFJ and usually connect to that more. It makes me feel crazy though
@@edgewise100 same 😳
I had one question that I could not pick between two responses because both were preferred and I swing between. So I did a trial of test all same and choosing one, then test all same choosing other. One said I was INFJ and the other said I was INFP. I do feel I am a split.
@@edgewise100 gosh I relate to this comment more than anything else
Being an INFJ with both INFP partner and best friend, I see how we sort of "complete" each other. It's not a cliché, really, although I can see why people may think that. I actually see that where I fail, they help me, and where they struggle, I come to help them.
I totally know what you mean. I think my husband is an INFP. When reads something, it's like he has this effortless ability to decode. I asked him how do you do that? And he says, I don't know, just do. It sometimes takes months to put the pieces together.
@@Shanna1215 Exactly! INFP's are good at taking information and put it together (those who developed their Te inferior, I guess?). It's fascinating to see how me and him work harmoniously without even trying.
I had an INFJ partner and I think that we were soul mates, I mean I never felt so synced with someone . My problem with INFJ is it's Fe function, trying to please others and taking the INFP partner as granted, putting his opinions and feelings to second place. In a fight, the INFPs hate when INFJ tryes to help, by counseling, because we know what we are feeling and why, we just need an apology or a hug, we don't need a dissertation about why we shouldn't feel that way xD. I broke up with the INFJ it hurted me a lot because I loved him deeply but I couldn't be with someone that prefers social harmony over the feelings of the partner. I hope that you guys get really well for many many years and I wish you the best because INFJ/INFP are really true soul mates. :D
Im infp and my friend is isfj i think it was
And we work great together
He and i are best buds and its been like that for 4 years now
I feel that he is more organized than me and he follows a plan
I just pay attention to the details in life and usually feel fine or dont even notice if i got distracted and changed the expected scenario or plan
He is a little better in tems of doing work faster and not get tired as easily
I get more tired and distracted but spot details he does not
Im more quiet and he is a bit more outgoing
Much things i don't have he has them like organization and somethings he does not have like creativity i do
I think we both patch up our weaknesses pretty well
@@cristina7317 instead of rejecting others opinions you can read about it. The peacemaker INFP comes from their hate of conflict and the fact that they can understand others points of view. they also are individualistic but they don't show that in public as much. :) I am a INFP don't worry ;) I don't know if you are an INFP but if you are you should be more open minded...
INFJ's - Wanting to have plans, but being unable to make them themselves
🤪 yup 😔🤚
Funny. In my professional life I can make very dedicated 'sniper' plans, to be executed by person X (could be me or someone else), but in my private life I hardly plan anything for myself. My team leader takes care of my work load LOL. I have the tendency to want too much on my plate (slight people pleaser there).
So so true!!! Bahaha. :)
Same. If I am left to my own devices I would be a hermit in my room forever.
Ahhh don’t call me out like that XD
The best video I have seen breaking down the differences with significant enough detail and explanations allowing us to likely draw better conclusions on what we, or our closest loved ones personality types are.
I keep taking different online MBTI tests and all say I am INFP. I always thought I was INFJ (in fact, when I was younger it was more like ENFP/J)
After listening to this very articulate explanation about the function stack, I am pretty sure I am INFP.
- I know my core values and assert them, even at the expense of creating disharmony in my environment
- I have very esoteric spiritual beliefs and need no scientific proof about their validity (I just know they are right)
- I don't necessarily like change, but if a situation doesn't feel right (vs my core values) I am very decisive about making the changes to get it into alignment
- people have always complimented me about my dress sense, but always stating that it is "different". TBH, I don't try to be different but also see no need to conform to what others are doing. Each to his own.
- I have lots of ideas and get side-tracked quite easily. I am not the person to take a long-term project to the finish line. I am more likely the person who innovates/strategises/consults... then walks off to explore the next big idea.
I really enjoy this video because now I also understand where my potential blindspots are. I will work on those areas in order to grow.
If you do take the MBTI, use caution when considering the meaning of your results. I’m 25 and over 10 years, I’ve often tested as an INFP. But whenever I read a description or even see a meme about INFJ, it’s almost always relatable. On the other hand, I couldn’t feel the same way about what it’s like being an INFP. I was so surprised when I learned that it’s actually easy to be mistyped by the Myers-Briggs quiz, especially if you are an introvert. Reading about the cognitive functions is what helped me understand how my brain worked and eventually discover that I was mistyped. Understanding the wiring of your personality type requires diving deep into type theory, and it goes much deeper than what can be learned from an online personality test result.
The testing of the dichotomies is quite unreliable for sure. I myself was first INFP, INFJ, ENFJ and then ENFP. Cognitive function test are more reliable IME.
This is SO ACCURATE... the test says INFP but when you dive deeper by looking at the traits, you have less INFP trait, but relate to most INFJ traits... Then it just confuse you more...
The online MBTI tests are mostly trash. It's best to shell out some money and get the official test. That's what I did.
I think that one thing that can lead to confusion centered around whether or not you're an infp is that you can have values that mimic other cognitive functions. Social harmony could be one of your values, leading to you acting similar to an infj. Logic can be one of your values which might lead to you wondering if you're an intp.
Really good point
WTF dont call me out like this
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Totally agree. Especially if the INFP is an 9 or 6 in enneagram. They would value harmony a lot. Or an INFP with type 5, who would be more logical than usual INFPs.
And an infj may be required to assert their authenticity for the purpose of social harmony
I have actually been wondering whether I was an INFP, but after watching this I'm sure I'm an INFJ. When you were talking about absorbing people's feelings and stuff, well, that's one of the reasons why I really know that I'm an INFJ.
One thing that I've noticed is especially when I meet new people or are in situations that make me nervous, like a job interview or a date with a guy I like, I almost completely loose sense of myself sometimes because I'm all 'out there trying to figure out where they are at'.
The other day I was at a job interview and I actually just agreed to a lot of things just to keep the peace and then after a day or two, I was like, I really don't want this job. This makes me feel awful. So that's how I know, because I need a lot of time to myself to figure things out.
Another good way to tell if you are an INFP or INFJ: what matters to you more/what freaks you out more - things(events, happenings, chaos, little details, etc) or people(your relationships with people, what others think of you, are "they" a good/bad person, etc)?
The INFJ (lead Ni) will worry more about chaos, changes in their lives, details, everything that is happening, what life throws at them. At the same time they see people as very important, big part of their lives, but still as more or less movable thing because people come and go.
The INFP (lead Fi) will worry more about people, their friendships, relationships with others, how they are perceived, while things like chaos, little details, events, unfortunate happenings etc. for them are something that just happens, sure, it can also can be triggering but it is movable because things/events in life come and go.
For INFJs people are IN the story.
For INFPs people ARE the story.
(story=life)
I hope this is helpful to someone. :)
I’m an infp, and I experience all of these things too....
I test out as infp in lot of tests. But one test got me infj, I didn't doubt it until then. Now I started researching, I have more infj qualities than infp. But when making decisions to these tests, I answer them like an infp would. One thing to note though is that, my intuition comes out to be ~56 percent. And my prospection also hovers around that. So maybe I switch between infp and infj. But I learned that from an infj that infj test as infp when they are going through emotional turmoil. And that person said her precentages would hover around mine nearing 60.
One more thing I learned that infj have shadow introverted feeling function. So it makes sense that I would make decisions using it during tests trying to be overly authentic? Using Fi. But I just know that I'm more of an infj than infp. And situations have a lot of effect on you, so you would use your shadow functions and it all leads to confusion. Hope this helps. I'm not that learned in mbti and cognitive functions, it's been only a month. So I maybe wrong about things..but so far this has been my experience.
@@loreta8249 This seems a bit backwards to me, since INFJs are people pleasers and have extroverted feeling, while INFPs lead with introverted feeling.
@@lilmagill58 you can check out Objective Personality to understand it better ;)
This is so helpful! INFJ trying to determine if I’m an INFP.... turns out I’m definitely an INFJ! Here’s to forever doubting one’s self in trying to create social harmony!
This is an amazing description & differentiation of these MB personalities. I’m an INFP & you’ve exactly nailed my defining characteristics. I am so impressed! I think that INFP’s can identify patterns almost without trying. Or maybe that’s just me. I feel like you described HOW that works but I need to chew on your perspective a bit. Maybe delve into my tickle trunk of sensory memories & associations. Plus I’ve been able to discern the connection I have with my INFJ friend. I really perceive her mysteriousness more clearly now. I am deeply grateful to you for this clarification.
Nice break down of the types! Like you explained the INFP and INFJ have totally opposite ways of coming to decisions, INFP makes quick judgements based on core values then proceeds to questions everything. While INFJ seems to spend a longer time taking in and picking apart info before coming to an absolute answer. Thanks for the insightful video!
This is a helpful comment. Thank you.
As an INFJ this really helped me to see why INFPs complete me so well! And I only believe I know just one or two. Both are authentic artists who actually understand me. Clay is so insightful with these well thought out observations of these two types that are so on target! Great job.
You finally confirmed it once and for all to me that I was right, I am an INFP though a friend was trying to convince me I was an INFJ. I was in some horrible relationships, but not because I was trying to be a "people pleaser", but because one of my strongest held beliefs was/is to look for best in people and not to give up, when the going gets tough. I wish I would walk away way faster from those people and situations, but, when I finally saw things for what they were, I walked away and never looked back and that is not a people pleasing behavior.
Have you taken the test? That's the only way to confirm your personality type.
@@PeacefulPariah I have. The INFP is more of a "dreamer" type and I write poetry, and dreamed of "World peace" since I remember myself.... Also, there's a part about the "values/convictions" in INFP case, which they are definitely something I reflect on, before doing almost anything in life and they are my beacon. Don't know, if it comes across right, but I go into deep historical/political etc researches, just to make sure my values are not lopsided, lol.
Thank you for commenting!
Let me know, how it is for you or your opinions, if you'd like.
Have you ever been to a psychiatrist or psychologist and found out from a professional on their perspective of what type of personality you are and I honestly believe that you are going to be the same person that you’ve always been and the only difference is now you nigh have a better idea of understanding yourself and why you do the things you do as for myself I don’t want to say quite yet because it for sure holds merit that I could be an INFJ and the more I learned about it and the truth behind it I became a little sad because it is not really that great to have an INFJ PERSONALITY because I have learned how to cope with being alone with my thoughts and I am not going to say that I have experienced joy in my lord an extremely long long time and I am more sad just learning how it actually works so I have the ability somehow I picked it up from my childhood trauma to choose the things that I have decided to not give permission to be a drain on my human spirit because we are all capable of doing whatever it is that drives you and I to the absolute extreme adventure and I’m personally an adrenaline junkie and I so bad want to sky dive, base jump, and those awesome body suits that glide right though the air like you’re actually able to fly and I wouldn’t hesitate for a second and I would be so excited in the best way possible that I’d probably jump before putting on my suit, LMFAO
@@PeacefulPariah regardless of any test or the fancy diploma’s hanging up on the doctors office I have no doubt you know yourself better than he does but it takes work to find yourself and that is what makes life worth living is most certainly the experiences you have to endure to get to the next level of your life because I don’t care about what happened to me personally as a child because it’s in the past and it’s never coming back because I don’t allow people that have been very cruel to me to ever get the best of me because the truth I believe is the only person who deserves the very best of you is in fact you and only you not your wife or your children because if you’re not at your best in life how could you possibly take care of your family and bring up your children to be model citizens who have respect for themselves first and foremost they made a huge mistake when they introduced that anti bullying campaign because they are protecting these young people to be living in a damn bubble that they have never been given the tools they need to make it when they are ready to Graduate and the people who are most likely teachers are never going to be there to defend them from harm and I am old enough that when I was in school you settled in the old fashioned way and that is what men are made for is protecting their own lives and the lives of their families in this day and age I’m not surprised they are record numbers of children who have been failed by the idiots running the country that say oh bullying is just terrible but ask yourself this question would you rather have a good young man who knows how to defend himself because he has never been given the tools to defend himself and they are not going to have his back when school is out for good and that generation is the generation of weaklings who by no fault of their own have been brainwashed into believing that they should never hit anyone who is going to beat the hell out of him for the fact he doesn’t know any different because they want to immaculate the children that they are so docile that they don’t pose a threat to the United States government because they want total population control and they are wrong and by all means absolutely cruel to the point they should be charged with the falsifying of a generation olds law of the land that danger does exist in the world and those politicians need to put a damn stop to this because they have no right to take the power away from a teenaged boy who lives in a world of imagination that doesn’t actually exist in the real world and they are the exact reason why kids can’t take it anymore and so they bring firearms to school because it’s been stripped of their right and protect protected people and they are going to eventually snap and that is how columbine happened and the people that are younger than I am may not remember the first shooting and I blame the media for making them look like rockstars and they just killed 30 people who are completely innocent and they paid the price for democrats to be able to make guns the public enemy number one when in fact they are all to blame and I’m furious talking about this because it’s completely true if you just take the time to think about why did the kids start thinking it was okay to do such horrific things that thyroid should allow teachers to carry a weapon on their person and I bet they are going to think twice who’s the better shot and the loser is the one who I’d honestly shoot to subdue him because he doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing and I am not saying that he shouldn’t be sent to prison for life or lethal injection because he must be a man and stand up for what he believes is right to be a good man and citizen of the United States of America and I wish I could have been at sandy hook elementary school and I would no doubt have taken that coward out in the knee’s because he’s not thinking about anything except the enormous amount of pain he deserves to be in and let cowards like that just bleed out and suffer the pain of those little kids 😓😓😓😓😓 I can’t help but tear up when I think of those little kids who never got a chance to start their lives and if it was possible I’d gladly lay down my own life to bring them all back to their parents because I have never been afraid to die but this is so much more fundamental than that I have always had a heart that is so big and I don’t expect anything in return especially thinking about that monster who killed little innocent lives that they probably would have hugged the person that killed those so precious innocent souls 😓😓😓😓😓😓😓😓😥😥😥😥 I didn’t need to know any of those children yet I am literally crying because of how terrible of a crime that was that I wish I had been there and I would have been so furious that I know what it feels like to be shot and I don’t care if he shot me first but before god almighty I would ask the lord to use me as his tool to take out the guy responsible for killing innocent kids and I have no doubt he knows anything about weapons and I’m a tack driver with my Model 22 .40 caliber Glock that I keep loaded with hollow points to be sure it tear’s the flesh from every bone in his body because he makes the necessary monster in me come out to even the odds that piece of fucking shit is burning in hell every day for the horrific lives he took for no fucking reason except he felt like it I’m so sad that happened to those innocent little kids that had not even had a chance to begin life and he snatched it away from those parents who I can’t possibly imagine what they had going through their minds when they got the news that one of their children was murdered by a guy that deserved never to have been born and I would have torn him to peices with my bare hands and not stopped until he was lifeless like the innocent kids he had killed for absolutely no reason whatsoever he better hope the lord doesn’t send me to hell because I’m making it my mission to take his life in hell if it’s possible but I am never going to let go of his throat because I don’t want him to be alive anywhere in time and he should have been aborted by his mother and thrown into a dumpster because he was nothing but trash that needed to be dealt a hard of his own medicine for each of the innocent children and their families my heart goes out to you like you can’t even imagine the pain that I would have knee capped him, cut his fingers off with a dull hacksaw so it takes longer for him to suffer because I feel like Clyde Shelton in the movie law abiding citizen when well it’s a case not even close to the horrible things people have done in the world and I would have this tragedy in the top most horrific tragedies in history of the United States of America 🇺🇸 and may the souls of those lost find their way home again amen 🙏. My apologies for getting teary eyed and I just can’t imagine what monster is capable of taking the innocent of the most innocent and the parents I can’t even imagine what they have gone through to begin the grieving process because it takes a long time especially when what happened and how it happened to innocent little kids were probably just playing and I can’t talk about this anymore
@@Joshua-ug4db lol, I Have jumped with a parachute and paraglided before. ...I haven't dug into Briggs-Meyers with my psychologist, when I had one.
I was just thinking, that the way you mention about learning about yourself and understanding your own motives, sounds very much like INFP. INFPs constantly check on their own values and make sure they adhere to them, they want to understand the "Whys" behind their behavior/set of beliefs.
Dude, thank you for this video. I've been confused about this for so long. I've taken the different personality tests a few times, and it almost always labeled me as INFP, but now, after a few weeks of grappling with this and watching different videos about the cognitive functions, I'm pretty certain I'm actually an INFJ.
Your video helped celar up a few things. Mainly the confusion between Introverted J and P types. Yours was the first video I've seen that actually cleared up that confusion for me. Also, I was very unclear about the difference between Introverted and extraverted intuition. I knew I was a strong intuitive type, but I didn't know which. I thought my difficulty with focusing on details of the outside world meant I had extraverted intuition, when that's actually a product of my inferior Extraverted Sensing. (I can focus on details, but I have to remind myself to do it)
Thank you for helping me figure out a bit more of who I am, and how I interact with the world.
It's weird, because going by the type descriptions, I sound a lot like the INFP, but when looking at the cognitive functions INFJ makes much more sense.
don't wanna say much but Clayyy
you changed ALL of my opinions
thank you so much for helping me with finding out why I am the way I am
I'm an INFP but I always thought I mostly seem to be an INFJ. thanks to this amazing video of yours, I eventually made sure that I am an absolute INFP and I feel like a HUGE problem is solved now!
Again, thank you so much for everything :D
Yes when INFJs forget to eat, not notice things right in front of them, or cannot recall a specific emotion they had 20 years ago and bring it right back on command, INFPs tend to get confused by it. Most INFPs have fairly good Si but our polr Se can make life weird at times. The past often does feel more real than the present because the past has already been cataloged, with all its events and emotions, but the present is happening as we speak and we don't have any frame of reference for it yet until after it happens. The future feels less real than the past but is exiting so I find INFPs tend to either live in the past or the future much of the time. With Ne, often chasing the idea itself becomes more important than its actual goal or destination. This is both exiting and annoying simultaneously. I deliberately practice presence now. I find it difficult but it has gotten somewhat easier than when I began but its very hard to keep up doing it for any length of time. Very draining.
I’m only writing because I’m so confused. I’m positive I’m an INFP but I feel the exact opposite. I feel like the past is so confusing and unreal. It’s like I was in la la land and the present moment is more real. I begin to think did this or that really happen or did I make it up. Sorry if it sounds strange. I’m a beginner at learning the mbti functions😅
@@chrishernan4490 No worries about being confused, oftentimes finding your type takes time. You may want to consider you may be an ISFP vs INFP. They tend to be a lot more present than INFPs. What you described here *may* have been having Se and Ni as your two middle functions. It sounds like you have fairly weak Si and that your Se seems a lot stronger. Hope things helps :)
Yep. For me thinking about the future is more comfortable than the past or present. I don't remember the past much at all. Except when a song comes on and opens my memory of an emotion more than actual events.
@@FromG2eminor wow, so interesting. I can't even imagine being like that. I can still bring back the exact emotion I was feeling in certain situations when I was very young (back to age 2) and can remember with detail what the physical environment looked like and in some cases, even what I was wearing. Very in touch with how I feel and in some cases, quite framed around the subjective experiences of my past. For me, im either living in the past with Si or the future of possibilities with Ne, but the present is challenging for me to sit with in the same way.
@@melbeth79 I really could never see myself as an isfp. I don't believe to be down to earth. I'm always in my head. I fake my personality a lot of the times. At work I don't feel like saying hi to anyone it is exhausting but I try my best to make small talk. It's so hard for me to make small talk. I hate small talk but try to be politeful and respectful to others. I usually only feel comfortable saying hi or talking to others that I feel I can actually connect with.
Im struggle whether I am INFJ or INFP too. I few like most of the time I made decision as INFJ but few time I acted like INFP too
Difference is easy, do you try and create a good connection with others, or only when you feel it? Latter is INFP, warm on inside, cold on outside. INFJ is the opposite, we feel crap inside but love to please people externally, this we are generally warm to others.
@@Coneman3 so I think Im INFJ then. 😩
after watching around 10 videos and different articles about this, i finally found what i've been looking for, thank you SO MUCH. i wanna cry
SAME
@@AshtonKohleralways feeling so out of place and beating myself up as to why?? After watching this, so many things came together. I now after so long of thinking and overthinking and analyzing everything.. just to try to make sense of everything that didn't make sense, was explained in a way that my complicate everything by 10× brain just accepted it without any complications. I can get better acquainted with myself knowing what and why I'm this way..
I really enjoy your ability to articulate the elementary bits and pieces that make up the personality types. I married young. My husband had 3 children. LOL. I am an INFJ. This makes it clear to me, why I am starting to feel like a grown up. At 63 years old, living in the woods, I have the opportunity to free me. It is a deeply satisfying process. At age 30 I had 4 teenagers. By 57, I had been widowed twice. Instead of being empty, this part of my life is filled with enjoyable self exploration. I love finding the unadulterated me in me. Thank you!
So I've taken the Myers Briggs personality tests multiple times over my lifetime. As a child I got INFP and as an adult I usually get INFJ. I wasn't sure how the 2 were different and honestly I've been trying to understand this because the 2 are so similar. After watching this I'm 100% sure that I am an INFJ (at least now) but I feel like I truly was an INFP as a child who grew into being an INFJ just from life experiences. Anyone else have similar experiences? Maybe I was actually always an INFJ and just didn't have as much self awareness 🤷. I'm only 10 minutes into the video rn, so there's still a lot more to hear and learn, but I just thought I'd share and see if maybe anyone else has had an experience like mine.
I know this is an old comment, but I’d like to mention that the INFP has an ENFJ shadow, and the INFJ has an ENFP shadow. You could be in shadow mode now or perhaps when you were a child; this could explain your experience.
This is pretty common and has to do with the technicalities of how the test is contructed, more than anything else.
The questions for the J-P dychotomy all have to do with coscientiousness (being orderly, on time, organized, industrious etc). J correlates with higher coscientiousness scores, P with lower.
BUT, we know that conscientiousness increases growing up. Even the Ps need to learn the organizational requirements of adulthood. So its pretty normal for a well-adjusted adult P to come out J.
But as the video says, if you look at the cognitive functions, the difference is pretty clear.
Unfortunately there is no test for cognitive functions, only for the behavioral traits that correlate with them. I honestly don't think such a test is even possible. All we are left with is introspection really
@@Loudumer What about an INFJ having an ISFP shadow as a child? I was an unhealthy child in many ways. Was selfish and pessimistic about life. I could sometimes be funny and make people laugh pretty hard with my antics but depression and seriousness would always come back. I daydreamed a lot and imagined living in a perfect world a lot. I didn’t have friends... too scared to talk to people. I always desired one best friend... not a lot of friends. I always enjoyed being out in nature, still do. I enjoyed time alone in ny thoughts. Still do, so I can reflect on many things happening inside my soul and outside events.
I have also tested out as INFP and INFJ in approximately equal frequency ... It would be interesting to know how different types coped with the pandemic.
@@kthybrown007 I am a lifelong INFJ and I personally did very well in the pandemic. I was careful for me and my family and conscientious of other people when I was out and about and didn't have issues wearing a mask (because it seemed trivial to me), but I also didn't get wrapped up in fear and worry. I also loved being at home without needing any excuses as to why I wasn't being sociable outside my household (my husband, sons, and myself).😊
The hardest part for me was seeing what everyone else was going through and dealing with. I pick up on everyone else feelings and energy whether I am in person with them, over the phone, or it's strangers on Social Media or the News. I had to really limit my exposure to TV/News because the feelings, fears, stress, depression and overwhelming suffering could just wrap itself around me if I wasn't careful. Luckily, I have a deep, daily meditation practice that really helped/helps with that and I've learned to clear my energy field every day (took me a while to catch on to that😏)
And yes, it was VERY hard to meditate when I first started as my analytical, fast paced thinking was hard to control and was always fighting with my actual perception/intuition. But that gets better with time. I call myself a skeptical believer😊
How was it for you during the pandemic?
Thanks for this insightful and very clear description of the two types. I'm one of those people who get INFP and INFJ on the same test taken at different times in my life, and most recently INTJ. (Those tests are kinda garbage anyways.) After listening to this it 100% affirms what I had believed was my true type - INFJ.
As a fellow INFJ I wanna say you did a great job articulating your deep thoughts on this subject. I'm impressed
Their behavior is super different for the most part.
INFPs come off as more shy yet still approachable, INFJs come off as kind of aloof sometimes.
I just came across your channel and I have to say this is probably the single most informative video about MBTI types I’ve seen. Thank you for laying it out so clearly and taking the bigger concepts apart step by step! Not to bring anyone else down, but I find that most youtubers who make videos about this topic tend to just make very generalised statements and focus on the abbreviations rather that the cognitive functions, which just makes the system seem shallow. Also, as an INFJ with an INFP best friend/love interest, I found this particular video extremely insightful - it makes so much sense why we’re drawn to each other, with our cognitive functions being complimentary.
I took the Myers Briggs test twice and got INFJ first time and INFP second time and man were these claims on point! Great video! You distinguished them pretty well bc i can relate to both!
On minute 16:42, I totally relate to that! I do it very often, and I only realised it after I was told that I do it, by more than one person, nowadays I aware of this behaviour but still I "need to do it sometimes". I practise meditation from the past 25 years... it helps me to observe myself, I'm really good in observing people, but meditation helps me to see myself too and it improves my intuition like anything! We INFJs are naturally very intuitive, but after meditating it becomes something almost scary! Hahaha. I'm a people pleaser (trying to improve this aspect in me, but with no big results) and because my intuition is very strong I can literally feel what people feel and then I feel prompt to help them.
I struggle with the differences somehow since my twin sister and I are INFJ and INFP and we are so similar and YET so different in some ways
There must be chemical or physiological differences between the personalities. If I could cure myself of INFJ I would because it isn't really acceptable as part of the culture where I live. I wish I had a family member I could relate to but we think so differently.
My twin sister is INTJ and I am INFJ. I can relate to your comment about how we are so similar yet so different. My daughter is an INFP.
You are very lucky. My twin sister is estj, and I am infj. It's really painful, an endless struggle. Thank God for my infp husband.
You did an excellent job of explaining the differences through cognitive functions. I typed myself as an INFJ through a book a very long time ago. I'm also lucky enough to have an INFP step-mother and an INTJ father, so I could easily see the differences in how our brains processed things through conversations that made it more apparent, but even I have questioned it sometimes. I think you touched on one of the things that really trips up new people typing themselves with the J/P function that is often talked about with how spontaneous or organized you are. I don't think people understand how much who you are around and how tired or stressed you are can affect how you seem sometimes compared to how you truly are when you start digging into cognitive functions. Like I'm organized, but I might not look like it because my desk has piles on it. And I absolutely suck at making and sticking to a schedule when I'm at home, but get me in work environment and I know what I need to do and when. I can definitely identify with the SE experience. While I don't recall cutting myself and not realizing it, I often find bruises on my arms and legs and have no memory of running into something hard enough to have caused it.
First, thank you for giving so much of yourself in this video. Your insightful, personal input is truly valuable. Breaking down the differences side by side with graphic representations really helped me understand the hierarchy of the traits. And see just how different the two types are. I took a very detailed MB test in college with an INFJ result. But, every other test I’ve taken has been less in depth and received INFP results. After watching this I am certain that my initial test was right. I am also an HSP (highly sensitive person) and energetically empathetic beyond just personality type. So I am learning that I have to actively manage my urge to make everyone around me comfortable and at ease. Because when they are at ease, so am I. But I will sacrifice my own needs in the process. And then we all feel better but I’m exhausted!
I also found the video really entertaining because, now, there is no doubt that my husband is totally an INFP and it was like you were talking about US. I laughed out loud several times. 😄
Great video. Will definitely subscribe!
Beyond awesome! - from a "Solid INFJ"
I really enjoyed this video. I'm definitely an INFP through and through. I am very driven and don't struggle to know what's a definitive yes and no when it comes to what I want to do. I'm however learning how to remain laser focused once I've made a decision. In the past I'd tend to want to "try out" different things but I've noticed that has shifted this year. I'm having a desire to gain mastery in some skills and approaches that I'm passing on the usual lure of "shiny objects". So I could very much relate to that mention in your video. So many wonderful nuggets, I'll definitely be rewatching and digesting it all.
I relate to this a lot as an INFP over 40. I'm the same way now. Takes us a while to get that focus and not have anxiety that there is always a better path than the one we are on.
@@melbeth79 I just turned 40!! It must be the wisdom that comes with being 40 and fabulous 😉
@@MsDoryLinda must be 😊 I turned 40 last year.
Thanks, this was nicely explained and is helping sort out some aspects I've been mulling over. I'm primarily INFP, though I slide readily to INFJ (family's preference). Life has provided the impetus for exploration of self, leading to more confidence. Gradually people-pleasing has given way to living my values more. Examining spirituality has been part of the drive for authenticity-- It's less about fitting into a societal group, and more about a direct relationship with the divine.
Thank you so much for the immense time spent clarifying the subtle, and also, the distinct differences of these two personalities in a particularly profound way.
Your explanations offered with examples really, really helped.
Well done sir!
This gave me so much insight thank you!!! I’ve been an INFJ forever, but recently took the test again to find I changed to an INFP. This helped me figure out what changed in me over the years. I appreciate it
this definitely confirmed my type for me! I was struggling with the INFJ-INFP similarities and now I know I am definitely an INFJ
Thank you, Clay! Just recently found your channel, amazing :)
For me, the most confusing thing is Si.
I'm an INFJ, I think. Well, at least 3 tests showed that, but one test came out with a very interesting results: Ni, Fe, Ti and Si.
I'm very future oriented, but also quite nostalgic. I love to watch my old pictures, collect my old stuff and when I listen to music from the past, I can feel past feelings.
But as one person in the comments wrote, maybe it's because without these things I couldn't remember. Like I need some artefact or something. For example, right now we are selling my childhood house, and I'm extremely sad about it. It looks and feels like my childhood will be lost. Maybe some other INFJ's have similar experiences?
Thank you so much! As I listened to your discussion of introverted intuition, I suddenly realized that this was a perfect "outside" description of a foundational aspect of my character, which I have known about for a long time, but only recently acknowledged and celebrated in the continuing journey to increased self-love. I am very overjoyed with my introverted intuition, which ensures that I always "come back" (to myself), no matter how circumstances of environment and society conspire to divert me to their ends -- so much so that I have named it "The Ox". You're absolutely right (in my experience), that this function operates invisibly to me, and may take a _very_ long time to complete any given goal/task (atm my record is 16 years from initial intuition of a goal to succesful completion, but it did get done -- and well-done -- and it's not named "The Fleet-Footed Stag", after all). But I have over 50 years of observation to confirm that when The Ox starts to move, the thing *_will_* get done. It won't look like it, probably for quite a while. And then, in the middle of quite ordinary-seeming "nothing much happening", there will come an internal "ping!" (compile complete), and then everything will roll forward very fast indeed. And I can easily see that it is the conclusion of a process or idea that I myself had; I know that I "did it". So thank you so much for showing me that I am actually a reliable observer of my experience, and that I can draw correct conclusions from my observations. I have been invalidated a lot, so it's good to have an outside check 🙂. I appreciate it!
I am an INFP and my best friend is an INFJ, your video really gave me a much better idea about how we are different and alike. I really appreciate your thoughtful and detailed video!
Thank you for uploading. I feel like this can help out a lot of infp's. For instance, I'm so caught up in my own morals and needs, I know exactly what I'm needing or wanting. It pains me to lie about what I really want.. even if it's just food or what to do that day bc I feel like I am lying to myself. Not to say that I don't care about anyone else's opinions or needs, but I feel like it's so muddy and unclear when it comes to seeking out what others want. I don't want to play guessing games with someone when I know what I'm wanting. This video shows me that even if I think I know exactly what decision I want for myself & others, even with a pure heart, it's time to step back a lil bit & listen to their desires/needs. Even if my head is screaming "girl I know you want Mexican food tonight stop lying", I need to calm it down! I like these videos and forums about this kind of stuff bc it allows ourselves to grow, learn and hold ourselves accountable. ❤️
Thank you so much for this video! I'm an INFJ who thought that he might be actually a mistyped INFP, because I'm not planning through every activity of the day, which is a thing that I've heard it's typical for INFJs. (Though if plans are made, I hate spontaneous changes!) And then you said the things about values and for a moment I thought that I knew them, but all values that came to mind revolved around not hurting others, which is an INFJ trait.
The replay of life is spot on, as well, just not the focus on one project. I always see more things, but on most of them I don't stay focused, on the few others I can stay focused for years. Also, what you said about discussions is true, sometimes people change the subject and after a while I'm like "yeah, but what I wanted to say about that topic we had 20 minuets ago..."
And especially what you said about becoming a doormat... That's why I gave up a job in customer services.
Also, thank you for verifying that introverted thinking is not a bad thing!
What you said about introverted sensing also rings true, though; I often get lost in music and memories, which would be more of an INFP thing, which makes me doubt again.
Oh, isn't looking at a thing three times without finding it something that everyone does?
Thanks for clarifying that INFJs also have beliefs, because when you mentioned the beliefs of INFPs, I instantly thought "oh, could I be INFP after all, because of being a slightly spiritual agnostic?"
Seems like we share the same mind lol
Same…
It takes a great deal of self-confidence to articulate such knowledge, into interesting content, and present it to the online realm. Great work Clay 🤙
Has this man made an official INFP VS INFJ test yet? 😥😩
This video appeared on my You Tube feed just when I needed it. As an INFJ I often feel like there is something wrong with me. Lately I have been having difficulty with insensitive neighbors dumping their negative stuff on to me and have begun shutting them out to regain my balance. The part about misplacing things that are right in front of you is something I go through all the time, and I could laugh at myself about it! I was beginning to think I was crazy
My score came out very close in the P/J category and I think some have called it INFX. I dress very unconventional. But often told I am aloof.
Very good to hear this this. morning.
The way you described the INFJ and how the process of things is on point, like not knowing how you feel but how others do
Fi and Te are on an axis and yes it's important for INFPs to develop it as much as possible. I admit I get confused by "subjective logic" Ti because to me, logic "goes out not in". A well developed INFP will want their Fi values to be backed up in the external world through Te facts and data.
Interesting. I like the way you talk about your phenomenalogical experience of Te. I've been trying to explore my experience of my ego functions off and on for a long time. Ti (I'm an INTP) is definitely "inside." It seems like a matrix inside. I definitely experience Te as outside.
Si is like an organic matrix. It's inside, but it definitely stretches deep into the past, which somehow exists in my body as a type of body knowledge. How do you experience Si?
Oh I like that way of describing Si! Yes, there does seem to be a knowing and holding of things from a time very long ago with me as well. Historically I've also experienced it as seeing a person, place, object or hearing a song and immediately connecting it back to certain events in my life. I also experience it as thinking in images when I'm reading or talking to someone and my mind imaging say my bedroom as a child in the house I lived in the longest but I have no clue why. Like what they're talking about seems to have no connection to my childhood bedroom but yet my mind is generating that image. That happens all the time but I'm not sure why. As I get older I am moving away from Si just being nostalgia and finally moving into making the connection that if I do a certain thing again expecting it to go better, Si now says, you may wanna consider what happened last time. Or the last 10 times and not get bitten again. Because when I get hurt I tend to get hurt deep because historically I've been a rescuer of people due to wounds. I still care deeply for people but the development of Si is helping with more balance for me as I get older.
Yes it's quite hard for me to understand Ti but I have heard the best way for me to try to is through Fi since they are both subjective judging functions so I'm trying to. Historically I've struggled with being certain of what I think vs the vibe I'm getting or what I'm feeling or sensing. I tend to trust that a lot more, but as I get older I'm trying to develop more of an understanding of Ti. I suppose Te is like an external checkerboard grid to me of outwardly measurable "rules" of the external plain. If there are too many of these rules I do balk. They have to run through my code of ethics and not be too pointless or restrictive or unequitable. I like Te structure to a point if I feel it's ethical, but yes I tend to understand Te easier.
INFP here. 18:25 under 'occupation' I struggle. I finally type out, "as if I could pick just one?"
22:30, doing lots of projects at the same time. I couldn't finish one before going onto the next to save my life.
26:50, brainstorming out loud. I need others' input to come to my conclusion.
36:00-41:10, catalog experiences, oh yeah. Memorabilia, nostalgic, reminiscing, comparing past to present, to a fault.
45:30-47:20, like Brian, Chotchkie's waiter in Office Space, I always have 37 pieces of flair. Jennifer Aniston only had 15 pieces so she must be an INFJ. 😆 😉 Btw, I 💗you INFJs... (that's me expressing myself!!)
Hey Clay, I think the difference in empathy between INFJ and INFP is that Fe Parent is *empathy* whereas Si Child with Fi Dominant is *sympathy* . So if you as an Si & Fi user have not had any similar experience you are going to have trouble relating to that person.
This is the best video differing the two personalities that I've seen. Thank youuu! I was so confused about my personality type, but now I feel more confident to say I'm INFJ after all
This was so very helpful to me. I always thought I was a bit of a “bad” infp - but the breakdown of cognitive functions illuminated I’ve been mistyping myself. Viewing myself through the infj lens, I’ve felt an immense sense of freedom - at home in myself and viewing some of my internal and external processes as strengths rather than negative attributes I should change. Thank ya!
So the last test I did, told me I was INFJ (the same test I took the first time, but approx. 6 years difference), and I thought I had somehow evolved because I've grown a lot and learned a lot that now I've just suddenly become INFJ. But this video totally clarified it for me which I genuinely appreciate. I understand now that I'm still INFP I just have learned and grown into adopting more INFJ tendencies--I play the middle man more and try really hard to stop my snap judgments in their tracks, and I do the logical research to see if there is evidence to change my mind (along with other trait changes too). Thank you, sincerely. I will say though that you said you envy us our confidence of self, but sometimes it's just a nightmare being INFP because you're sooooo different (I feel like a fruit loop in a world full of cheerios), and you never follow through on any project to completion. You end up feeling extremely, extremely alone and like an abject habitual failure because you never fulfill the end goal/dream. I love this video though because it's just shown me what I've improved upon on my own in order to overcome some of the difficulties of being INFP, and also shown me some very interesting things I never would have thought about or realized that I still have yet to work on. Again, THANK YOU.
As an INFP, I see someone whos values don't align with mines as disrespect, I hate bitchiness. I have empathy on a lot of levels but because I'm good at getting to know people on a deeper level, often times I will develop a really close friendship, then they will let their guard down and it's not pretty a lot of the time. I have had a lot of explosive arguments with people because I bury my feelings until the last minute, then before you know it a best friend has become an enemy. But I have ridiculous standards that even I don't live up to. It's a hard world lol
Yes. Lots of deal breakers that only I know about until they hit that boundary.
Def I think if you can't figure out where your lines are.. it kinda shows someone's true self. And saying u don't know where ubstand.. on things that are so simple seems fake and putting on a mask. So if infps don't like that I'm 100 infp.
I don't care about lies.. but I do care about values of what makes a good person. And I don't like people that can stab others because they well " don't really know where they stand"
This video really helped! For a long while I struggled in finding my personality. It was hard to understand each function and even though I got INFJ in the tests, it turned out tests are often incorrect so it drove me nuts trying to verify my type. I thought I could be INFP or ENFJ... the things that helped was watching more videos that explain the functions and observing other INFJs.
I just want to say this is the most detail and accurate video I've found explaining the differences of infj and infp, I've watched the whole 50 minutes of it.
Something I want to point out as an infp, although I often make decision based on my preferences, values and current mood, sometimes my values are not really that consistence, and I am not knowing myself as much as you suggested in the video. I think maybe the Ne has shown me all other possibilities and kept me from having one rigid value system or mindset, and made me skeptical about myself.
Also, when there is a disagreement or conflict, I am not quite able to defend my values or believes because I just hate confrontation and I am not good at backing up my idea fluently with reasons and logic.
I am so flattered by your thought process of nfp’s at the end , because growing up as very infp I alway wished so badly all the time that i could just think like everyone else so that maybe i could be seen as me. But growing up i found there was a tug and pull to that , being literally an emotional dumping ground when it was i who was asked to express what i was or am going through. Because i have relatable experiences in my stories people tend to turn it into their own and then we are talking about what they feel and have to deal with, and the second i try to make a fuller circle to how that correlates to me, the person will become angry with me and im not alway sure why… so hearing you say you wish you had thoughts like us is something i needed, thank you! And i do believe in God :) but in my own experience
This was extremely helpful. I always wonder if I might be INFP even though everything always points toward INFJ. Just my obsessive nature I think. So, thank you! For me, when I’m stressed the skewed extroverted sensing makes me VERY clumsy. I also miss so many details around me because I’m far too deep in my head. When that happens, I resort to obsessive cleaning, listening to super loud music, or a movie marathon just to try to keep my focus on the outside. Also, you are very right about us not being able to fully gauge how bad we are at something that we are bad at, at least until something forces us to look deeper. I noticed I am horrible at knowing how I’m feeling or sitting with my feelings. I noticed my way of dealing with feelings is basically not dealing with them at all and being irritable, frustrated and stressed that I even have them. That just makes everything worse. I was able to notice this because recently there was a loss in the family and usually my INFP helps me work through my what I’m feeling by asking questions and making me acknowledge them and dig deeper. This time, however, being that the loss was much closer to his heart than mine I had no help working through my feelings and worse yet, needed to help him through his. I had to get away from him to be able to process what I was feeling first before I could even attempt to help him. Otherwise, I would’ve just taken on his feelings and become irritable because I just don’t do feelings properly. Sorry for the book it’s just your video has been very eye opening for me. Again, thank you.
I feel you about the 'being clumsy' thing. I happen to be very clumsy as well, falling, tripping, fainting, dropping stuff that I'm holding, it probably makes me look quite stupid to be frank and it gets worse when I'm nervous. Best timing ever.
BirkeClara Soooo relatable! Yes that is exactly how I fear I look. Now I’m not as anxious as in my younger years so it helps a bit in that sense. However, I’ve adapted an even worse way of coping, I become really upset at my own clumsiness throw whatever it may be, on the floor and yell out a few curse words and storm off to just be with myself for a few. Not proud of it, but hey. 😂
I think I have qualities of both, but when I was younger, I was a solid INFJ. As I got older, I became more of an INFP with INFJ tendencies. Perhaps, as I get even older, I’ll grow into my INFP-ness.
It makes even more sense when you say that you’re an INFJ and your mom is a solid INFP.
I think I’m slowly going through the same thing, I’d say my mother is also a solid INFP and used to be a complete INFJ but the lines are getting a bit blurred as i get older too. I wonder if this kind of shifting is common for these personalities 🤔
You just wrote exactly what I was trying to say in the past 5 minutes. It's interesting how INFPs and INFJs are so closely related. I'm somewhat the same... I am most definitely an INFP, but I had INFJ traits when I was younger (which was a very turbulent time for me). I was very confused about the world and myself, I never knew where I should stand and I was a classic people pleaser. I had a lot of difficulty understanding what I felt about anything and I always had this feeling of being stuck in a tight skin that I couldn't free myself from... like I could never be myself. As time passed I gradually began to understand myself and my inner workings and "became" more INFP. That was when I felt relieved and more "free." It was a kind of lightbulb moment, like I was finally able to shed that tight skin away and just be me.
Exactly how I feel! To a certain extent of course but some qualities of the INFJ I have not because I value it but I just do it like the restaurant thing and the values being floaty or whatever i hopefully I grow into my authenticity more wishing us da best of luck
@@givemeyoureyes7 I’m so happy for you! I had kinda(the ending is a bit different) a similar experience I hope I get better at being a more stable infp
Its funny changing from wanting to make everyone happy to realizing that everyone sucks and that I really don't want to care about most people.
INFJ-SE- I was starting to think about the onset of dementia so thanks for clearing up the reason why I forget and not see things when they are right in my face.
First of all, your voice is not only calm but clear. Secondly, you explain quite well. Thank you for both of those things! Not everyone on here or anywhere for that matter does that… Instantly subscribed to your channel because I’d like to watch more of your videos
As an INFP myself, find you adorable. Love your considerate manners. The way you explain/talk is completely genuine and can relate to every word you say. Just loving your authentic self and thank you for this video.
I, as an INFJ, was so entangled in other ppls feelings I had to "isolate" myself (move into a solo apt and have only essential contact) for a number of months in order to even begin to know what I was feeling inside.
Honestly same, COVID really helped me tap into my own internal feelings as much as the isolation was difficult
I had to get off social media (facebook/instagram) because of this reason. Actually a lot of it was realizing and being infuriated by the stupidity/false information/people ranting about things. Me as an INFJ wanting to correct them, writing a huge thing then not sending it. OR if I posted something I was passionate about that may be taboo or controversial I'd find myself deleting it in fear of causing conflicts between people I know.
@@miss.asht0nWhat youve written is me, also, to a t.
I feel you. Quarantine was so great for that.
Same. I lost my "best friend " this year because I took time to myself to sort out my feelings, and she took it personal.
I thought I was an infp because I related to a lot of stuff but I've always felt more logic based and didn't understand how could people could say what's on their minds without tact or consideration of others. Thanks to this video I could realize that I am actually an INFJ. And honestly since the beginning I thought I was an INFJ but that stupid 16 personality site always told me I'm an Infp and I was just left unsatisfied. Thankyou so much Clay😌
I'm at the 10 min mark and so far you're doing pretty good. I have a little side gig where I type people sometimes and I have people come to me confused about the difference between these two types.
From my perspective as an Fi dominant, it's very hard for me to understand how a person couldn't know how they feel or what their values are. That doesn't make much sense to me to be honest so that is one huge test right there.
I also find that INFJs not only struggle a lot more with what identity is, but they overcomplicate the heck out of it to me as well and get in crazy Ni-Ti loops about it (when they do this it drives me nuts 🙃) INFPs are more included to just have "a knowing" of themselves and thier identity.
I should also add regarding harmony that due to how incredibly subjective Fi is and how it tends to loop with an INFP's Si, if they value people pleasing, it can happen. It all depends upon the Fi subjective. Also, Fi doms tend to value social harmony just as Fe people do but for different reasons, so when typing, one has to look at intent. Fe does it to consider the feelings of the group but Fi often does it so their inner spirit will not feel unsettled and ill at ease because it can sense when things are off and that creates ugh inside them.
Okay, onto watching the rest now...
Gonna ask you what I posted to the thread--
I thought I was an INFP until I watched this video bc that's what the test said 3 times. Now I'm thinking I'm an INFJ. The biggest thing for me is taking a long time to make decisions because I need all the info- the one thing that's still confusing is that I feel more scatterbrained at times than focused on one goal because I tend to focus on so many different details. However once I've made up my mind it is hard to change unless I come across new information that changes my perception of a situation or problem, and then the decision making process is back to square one sometimes. The other thing is I know I.have started a lot of different things, but I determine which ones are worthy of finishing and which to avoid, after time. I sometimes delay making decisions because I haven't had time to reason out all the possibilities. I like having a schedule but hate making it because of all the thinking involved in which activity should come first, second, third etc and can't decisively say how I feel about something on the sky unless I've spent a lot of time already reasoning through it. The ones thing holding me back from saying INFJ is what you said about your friend but I know from experience I can spend a year or longer focused on something before I determine to stop as long as outside circumstances don't intervene and affect my decision ... What do you think?? Am I just wishing I was an INFJ?
@@SarahRRedman Hello, sorry it's taken me a week to respond! I seen this notification then got waiste deep in exam prep (mature student 3rd yr of U).
If you can't pinpoint how you feel about things right away without having to think about it, that would probably indicate Fe.
I don't know how I feel about everything 100% of the time instantly, but the percentage is still pretty high that I usually do. The times I don't is usually if it's something totally new and off the wall and doesn't immediately fit into my existing Fi-Si framework. Even then, its rare for me to not know how I feel though.
INFJs are a lead perceiving type and INFPs are a lead judging type. For this reason, I actually prefer the way socionics labels them better because the J and P are flipped, ie: an INFJ in socionics is an INFp. It just makes more sense to me.
Lead Ni does not "judge" anything, it "takes in" the world into the person's vast existing plethora of abstract (and subjective to the individual) framework and links it to Ti to form a "subjective logic". Because I'm a Te user, I'm often confused by this "subjective logic" and tend to view logic as "going outward" and objective as opposed to subjective. How do you see logic? Going in or out? It has been my personal experience from the INFJs I've known that their Ni-Ti gets quite hung up on things they can't possibly know or get the answers to. For example, my friend kept saying about someone, "I keep wondering what was in person X's head before and after he did X to you and others". But unless you actually became that person, there is no way to know this. I told her, what you see is the evidence in the real world and how he reacted. Unless she performed a Vulcan mind meld she can't possibly ever know that. Her mentality is Ti and mine here is Te. Which would you lean towards?
Lead Fi "judges" what it sees by reacting to it based on an already existing internal framework of subjective ethics and values, and can't separate their ethics, values, feelings from their logic, which tends to be more objective and wants to be provable externally by evidence whenever possible. They essentially all become a giant stew of intersectionality in decision making.
INFJs are a lot more detached from their feelings and INFPs and are much more outside of them looking in. I can't relate to that at all. Do you ever question where your feelings stop and another's begin? This is also an INFJ thing. INFPs get confused by how anyone could not know the difference.
Hope this helps! If you have any other questions, feel free :)
@@melbeth79 Holy crap... If you compared a post of yours to one of mine, you couldn't tell the difference. Even our references are the same. You're very precise with your language, examples, and empirical/phenomenalogical descriptions. I beg people to tell me their experiences of their functions but it's so hard to get my friends and most people I am to do it lol! I'd say you're better with Ti than you know. I bet it's aiding Fi all sly-like, right now. Fi demon feels annoyingly restrictive, whereas Ti models dictate the equivalent conclusions and don't feel restrictive lol. How about you with Ti?
@@NatsGhost Oh cool, very interesting. It's probably because I'm a writer and I've been crafting how to be descriptive for years. The Ti thing has been quite frustrating for me in my life and actually be sure of what I think vs what I'm vibing on, sensing and feeling (which is way easier) has been a big struggle. How that I'm older I'm finally learning to have more confidence in what I think, as in yeah I'm allowed to think what I think here. I'm a mature student in 3rd year of university so this has also helped me develop my critical thinking and think less in loops that go round and round and go nowhere to actually learning to think more constructively. Also, Si is good at describing things and I have a pretty developed Si child so that is also part of it for me I'm sure. Sometimes I notice things more than the sensors around me, I did this a lot when I worked with a cleaning partner. I'd know how the physical environment looked and would have a distinct snapshot of that in my mind. I'd say to the person the next day, oh, where did the chair go or why is that picture not on the wall anymore? He'd be like oh I didn't notice. I was always like..what? Lol.
@@melbeth79 Isn't Si child such a joy? I'm an INTP, and absolutely concur with your descriptions of it. I sense matrices, my Ti is absolutely a matrix, my Si is like an organic matrix and the information doesn't feel centered in my head like Ti, but in my body. I lived on the street growing up (wouldn't change it for the world lol) and I was given the chance to really develop Si and Ni at a much earlier age than most INTPs. Ni seems like a giant lake inside of me, and occasionally important information jumps up like a fish. (And woe to me when I don't heed it, or I'm too noisy to notice...) Si is like spacetime recorded in my body and it's like I move along its contours (so yes, it's easy to find things because it's like my body has a map, does it feel like a map?), and Ti is a very abstract, unclassified, matrix that I fully interact with. Where in you does Si seem to be operating? What is your experience of Ni, Fi, Si, Ne? Like where in you are they? Actually some are outside of me, so however you need to describe it lol. Ti is everywhere, both inside and outside of me. Fi is inside only and seems like a whiner (I'm still trying😔 poor Fi), Ne starts in me and is like a spider web that reaches out and dances with things to find their pattern.... This is haphazard, and I have to run, but I'm excited to hear another person's actual experiences with their functioning! Plus I think Fi is so undervalued and ignored, and someday I hope we honor our cognitive diversity more as a species. I do always just want to give Fi users big 🤗. You guys need it😔
Late to the party again…but I had to say you’re fun to listen to. I liked learning about the function stacks. This video helped me understand my INFP husband better. He is a strong individualist, secure in his beliefs and values and doesn’t enjoy mixing it up with alternative ideas. He definitely loves to explore infinite options, even after a choice has been made. He’s a prolific writer and has plenty of ideas stored up to work from. He’s also a sentimental guy who relishes his past memories, music and ideals. I, on the other hand, am a staunch INFJ. I’m less secure about myself than he is, which irritates me, lol. I like to use my introverted intuition for creative imagination, Problem solving and inventing new ways of being- which he finds amusing, but not convincing. Anyway, hearing this helped me appreciate our differences more, as you so astutely pointed out. That’s also why I enjoy learning about personalities. Thank you. I like your idea about having video questions…how’s that coming along?
9:08 Is that a chuckle?? Thanks for this video. Really thought provoking. My brother gave me the MB when I was like in the 3rd grade and the 7th grade (lol-he was a teenager) and I went from INFJ to INFP. I definitely feel that quality of information coming in and me deciding is that good or not. Often my art has a moral note and absolutely check in with my interior compass--this helps a lot to guide the characters in my writing and see how they are interacting/creating meaning. I think that's how so many INFP's are novelists. Def. still recovering from avoiding conflict though. Lots to consider!
Thanks so much for this! I’m honestly still not sure whether I am an INFP or an INFJ, but this made me think perhaps I am an INFJ. The only thing I can go on really is that I am definitely feeling & intuition dominated & am definitely an introverted thinker.
I’ve more often tested as an INFP on tests, but sometimes as an INFJ.
When I do cognitive functions tests I test very high in Fi, Fe, Ni & Ne to be honest (I test higher in Fi & Ni than I do in Fe or Ne). I also test fairly high on Ti. My Si & Se are much lower & at a similar level & I score nearly (& sometimes absolute) 0 on Te.
I don’t know… I feel I am quite individualistic in some ways (I’m literally wearing a Casper the friendly ghost dress!) & have a strong connection to memories & past experiences like an INFP… but I like a bit of structure in the muted way described here (I can mainly take or leave structure, but I plan trips carefully & in general structure doesn’t bother me… but I’d rather planned events likely, but I don’t plan tasks or crave structure) & I related more to the descriptions of most of the thought processes more of the INFJ than INFP. But I relate to some bits of INFP too.
I’m not totally sure though! I mean if those cognitive functions tests are accurate, I feel like maybe I don’t fit too well with any mbti personality!?! I am definitely more of a logical thinker at the root of myself I think. But I’m not without any magical beliefs… I like to think robins are lucky for example. But I don’t really *believe* they are, you know. (I kind of do.) But my Mum was religious & as a teen I had a logical internal discussion with myself to settle in my own beliefs. (I do not believe.)
I also did a maths degree & found maths easy. I have a logical side to my brain. And I’m now a music therapist. I improvise music all day every day in work & am very spontaneous… but (sadly) I don’t personally create much if at all. I don’t really even think of myself as a musician. Though I’m lucky to be able to use music in my work.
I feel like I do have strong values but I am not too sure how much I know myself versus how much I want external harmony versus how much I value authenticity versus all these things.
I do know I am a walkover & can end up being used very easily. But although I cannot escape that happening alllll the time, I do feel quite resentful of it when it happens to an extreme. I mean I also accept it, but I wish I could escape. Which is feeling like I want my space not their harmony, sooo….
I feel like I just feel others’ feelings, but I’m not sure. Because when I watch art that moves me I simultaneously just feel that & can relate it to my own & actually even more often - other people in theory or people that I know - to their past experiences. Hmm… I wonder if I really am one or the other.
Love this video/discussion!!
I was working at a drug/alcohol rehab center and one of the topics I came across was the topic of values... values?... 🤔... what are values? I had to research this at 32 😆
There are plenty of times when I’ve seen things, like a woman friend slapping her bf, a drug addicted woman having a baby when a non-addicted baby wants to terminate her pregnancy, etc. and something hits me like this doesn’t feel right, there’s something wrong about this, but I won’t say anything. I’ll just figure out how to get out of whatever dynamic is rubbing against me.
I’m experiencing this in school with the social media/social justice narrative trending. A lot of students sound brainwashed repeating the same one sided narrative. My heart races, my body gets tense, and I don’t want to be there BUT I stay because I’m trying to get through the program and get out. I can now sense when my values don’t align but I’m still working on actually being able to go against the group and say something. It also takes a while for me to make a change because I need the quiet time and space to let it marinate (usually days, months, or years depending on how big the decision). But once the decision is made we are fast and swift at taking action to reach a conclusion.
It took me 32 years to get in touch with an abstract concept like “values”.
When we make schedules we marry it, generally. We say we like schedules but we avoid it BECAUSE we marry it. We aren’t the type that will make a schedule and half ass it. It’s all or nothing. This nature can make INFJs appear contradictory.
In the way that some INFPs express themselves through dress can in contrast make an INFJ look uptight, rigid, and judgmental but in actuality Fi can make INFPs seem more judgmental and closed minded. INFPs rely and end on their values and where they want to go with those beliefs regardless of how it makes others feel. INFJs are much more fluid and perceiving in how we evaluate new beliefs, whether we adopt and go anywhere with them that’s another thing, BUT we will consider various beliefs whether or not they ultimately align with any values we have.
INFJ is like I hope you like me, an INFP is like I don’t care whether you like me or not!
EDIT : Think I got this wrong. Still learning!
I wish I was more like an INFP. *cries*
@@CuteFluff8 :::hug:::
I'm an INFP and now that I'm in my 30's that is my attitude now, ha ha. Just going to be my true self, and if you like me, awesome, but if not, oh, well. Guess we're not meant to be friends, ha ha.
Well as an INFP i am more like. Pleaseeeee like me the way i am or i would be hurt😄😅
@@farnazyar7329 Same ^^'
I took 4 different tests to find out who I am and every time it was coming up as a Advocate INFJ but listen to you I’m more convinced that I am indeed a INFJ thankyou for explaining this in greater detail.❤
Excellent analysis! A life long INFP friend and I - INFJ, were listening to you and saw each-other in the examples you presented! (I am binge watching your videos) Thank you!
So can someone flip? In my youth I exemplified INFP, down to the loud clothes (camoflauge and tie-dye anyone?). I'm almost 40 and my whole wardrobe is black and I fit many other indications/patterns of the INFJ (need for social harmony, visionary of future events, hates chaos in environment, etc). But as you noted, it is not just a letter flip, the cognitive functions are different...
AUTHENTICITY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TOTALLY. I do not hold back EVER. I’m no people pleaser at all.
Thanks , I think I figured out I am am an INFJ not and INFP. You mentioned INFJs tendencies to have a lot of ideas and things going on at once, making it hard to fully develop one project. I’m afraid on my headstone it will say that I was “a jack of all trades but the master of none” and I hate that idea. Please do a video that makes suggestions on how INFJs can stay focused on their best ideas.
Omg I always say this about myself!
Wow. This was really well thought out, discussed and explained! Very helpful! Thank you!
This is so interesting! I’m an INFP and I have struggled a lot lately… I feel like I’m so selfish bc every time someone tell me something I automatically connect the situation to something what also happened to me and tell them how I was feeling the same thing with my experience but then I tell myself to shut up because now someone else is telling something and not me… and after your video I understand more and maybe that’s really just a part of my personality (Fi, Si)…I hope this makes sense 😅
As an INFP I have learned to at least said to people to let me sleep on things so I can try to be a little bit more flexible and be assertive but it really does have to match my values I have learned to have strong boundaries as someone said once INFP have once has been hurt and have hurt 😞, extraverted intuition is amazing is like we have all those fireworks in our head you can see the bigger picture you can see all those patterns but for us to commit to our ideas we want to make sure this is something we can commit with like how much are we passionate about something to be able to commit on a long therm, also I loved the meditation on the spot that you mum does it made me laugh l do those deep breathing on the spot if I feel disconnected and trying to connect to my inner child or if I have overload of emotion coming due to my intensity, we also understand that we don’t want to follow society rule cause we have an understanding of how it has impacted humanity and not in a good way ! When I am emotional and can play with my Te damn I am becoming really curious and if I research a subject
Is like everything making connection in my head it feel amazing but we really to be in a mood for it !
I understand now why there is such a confusion between INFJs thinking they are INFPs sometimes, this video made me think I am as well OR I could say....hmm, NI is my strongest function and SE is so weak, yet I make it stronger by day and it feels so good, yet the energy expenditure is insane! INFJ, but I know what I want in a friend, partner, career(sort of, stil getting there) I know what my values are, I've never been called out for being unconfident, quite the opposite, yet confidence has such a different meaning for everyone. Well, nevertheless, I want to say and I'm happy to share if I trully am an INFJ and any INFJ reading this, I finally know SE is what holding me back from achieving everything I want. Like...I know, deep down I know, not have the information, but I KNOW. Always had these ideas, dreams, known the path towards it, but SE has always hold me back. My suggestion is to focus on that weakness because NI FE comes natural without you thinking of it. Thanks for reading and good luck on your journey!
I found this video very interesting. I remember that I took the test a few years ago and it gave INFJ. I read some things fit , but not everything. A lot of things were happening at that time... so I took the test and didn't try to find out more...
recently I did it again and gave INFP. So I went searching to see the differences.
One thing that always makes me confused is exactly this issue of Fi and Fe. I always considered myself a person concerned with harmony.
But after watching this video I think I'm more Fi. I say this because I started to observe myself in group conversations. And if the group is saying something I'm not interested in I can't pretend to be interested. I would not see funfir interest as keeping harmony... I would see feigning interest as lying... IoI... Keeping harmony would be not to say that the subject is boring me... as it would upset other people. And that's why I've always thought to maintain harmony... I always try to say what I feel without upsetting people... and when I see it's not possible... I just keep quiet... IoI
And if I feel uncomfortable in the conversation I just say goodbye and leave... IoI
I have a friend who claims to be INFJ so I watched him... and he is very different from me. He is much more aware of what other people are feeling. And if he notices that someone is not participating but would like to participate, he calls that person to talk...
Ey, a lot of times I don't even notice because I'm more focused on my feelings... That's the main difference I see...
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Thanks for explaining this... I watched CS Joseph’s video on this and it confused the hell out of me.
This is one of the best videos for distinguishing between these two types. I’ve flicked between perceiving myself as each of them over and over again. This video has really clarified the distinctions. I’m going back to seeing myself as an INFJ now! Thank you!
OMG! I'm still confused. You still described me in both. *slaps forehead*
The introverted feeling thing is the glaring difference. I believe an INFJ will find that quite hard to relate to. I would say if you relate to both, the INFP would be more likely.
My take is that INFJs, or those who claim to be, are so adamant that they are INFJ, and that they are so different to INFPs and ENFJs etc, when often they are not. They seem to be very good at exaggerated generalizations, when in reality there seems to be a lot more cross over and exceptions. I feel like INFJ, ENFJ, INFP, ENFP all exhibit the same cognitive functions and behaviors at various times depending upon the situation , their mood and whether they are alone, with a partner or on a group etc, if you refer to 8 or more cognitive functions that come into play in different situations, rather than just 4
@@ClayArnall I know you will not able to answer at everything but, can I ask you what did lead you to write this line " I would say if you relate to both, the INFP will be more likely " ? It is more a logical conclusion or rather a personal tought? Sorry for the strange question but is something that I'm intrigued by.
@@andreabriganti8621 because both the personality types are well capable of understanding someone, especially each other. INFJs use a logical way of understanding it, and logic, in most cases, can be understood if explained. On the other hand, INFPs relate it back to their own experiences and moral values, and understand something that way. And it can be challenging for INFJs to do. Hence the statement comes into play. If you connect with both of them, you're most likely an INFP because the way their mind works is not understandable from an outside perspective.
And this is not to say that INFJs are easily understandable. They do have Ni, which is impossible to understand. But it is a complicated concept. Fe, or being more in tune with other people's feelings is imaginable, at least to me (INFP). But Fi, or knowing oneself is a completely foreign concept for INFJs. That's why, you're most likely an INFP if you connect with both, because you can't relate to an INFP's level of authenticity unless you are them. And you could be like "oh, but I do have Ni which INFPs can't understand unless they are me", but they won't be able to do that sort of thing because their Fe makes it difficult for them to know their own feelings and/or who they are.
(Sorry if I got some things wrong. I can't guarantee that what I'm saying is true for an INFJ. This is merely how things look from my perspective, and from what I have understood from this video. I admit that I may be wrong. However, the goal is to try and set a clearer idea in your mind as to why he said that statement.)
@@doublev4409 I thank you for your explanation but I was curious about where that answer came from. I'm more interested to know if his answer was born from the knowledgement he has about the differences between the 2 personalities, or if that answer came from something more related to his personal experience and feelings. But thanks to give me your opinion. Btw, maybe I misunderstood, but are you an INFP personality type? You think it is possible there are more then this personalities we know? I always ask this question to others and myself, since I still didn't find my place, not entirely, in one of this categories. Sorry for the time I'm taking away from you, if you can't answer don't worry and thanks again.