Mark Kermode reviews the 83rd Academy Awards ceremony and suggests who should present the Oscars next year after James Franco and Anne Hathaway fail to spark.
Honestly this young bloke doesn't even know what he's talking about. #Inception was the best movie of that year. It is a very condense and complex film and that's why the so-called Academy left it out of the category for best film that year. Thumbs up #MarkKermode for recognizing the cinematic significance of the film, which refers to machinations of the unconscious, which is both 'sujet' qua subject for both the arts and science.
I always tell people about Kermode's argument that "this is the same academy that DIDN'T give a best picture oscar to Citizen Kane or Raging Bull but DID give a best picture oscar to Titanic and Driving Miss Daisy"....it can't be put any better. Me - i would've given every award to The Social Network except for best picture [if it was possible i would've given it to Toy Story 3] The King's Speech is over-rated, boring and overly-nostalgiac for my liking. :)
@WalksBehindTheRose The definition of a director is to be in charge of the visual aspect of film, the actors come as one part of this. Inception was a very visual film, so it makes sense that the characters took the back seat and ultimately the film revolves around plot rather than story.
@GaiashKetoji Well, he has a point, often the true judge of the quality of a technology is the public's reaction to it. For instance, when the ipod was first released, many of the leading technology experts said that it was overpriced and pointless but thanks to overwhelming public support, it has proven to be one of the greatest innovations of the decade. The fact is, when you are dealing with an entertainment product there is only one judge, the majority.
I totally agree with Mark that Kevin Spacey would be a wonderful Oscar host. He's very sharp and has respectability. Or how about the combo of Robert Downey and Jude Law. I bet they can attract the younger demographic. But if they can't find anybody, just call Hugh Jackman, the guy's awesome.
Nolan and Inception ARE great. And they should have been awarded, or at least nominated. mark Kermode is so very right here. And since when was he proved wrong about Inception?
@shawndimery You didn't get the point behind Apocalypse Now did you? I doubt you even read Heart of Darkness, the novella Apocalypse Now was loosely adapted from.
Inception should have been rewarded purely for the direction on Joseph Gordon Levitt's corridor walk scene. I'm surprised Kermode didn't mention The Illusionist missing out to Toy Story 3
@GaiashKetoji But what it does do is show that the expert might be incorrect in his assessment, many of Kermode's criticisms of 3d are to do with it interfering with the film but if the majority of people find it adds to their enjoyment then 3D is a success. My point is that in something as subjective as entertainment, expert opinion really counts for nothing if it runs counter to the majority opinion.
If Richard Bacon thinks that whatever wins Best Picture at the Oscars IS the best picture for that year then god knows what he thinks of Taxi Driver or Raging Bull.
@MrSyrett Maybe you're right. But Kermode was, funnily enough, one of few critics who seemed to share my disappointment with TDK, so then again, maybe not. And he liked Sherlock Holmes, didn't he? I know I didn't, but he did. I certainly don't think Inception was the film of the year, nor am I angry that Nolan wasn't nominated, but clearly Kermode's opinions aren't as biased as you say they are, or at least not in the way you say they are.
@WalksBehindTheRose good point sir...actually his film insomnia has a very real human ellement to the film. so is more than "technical director." but not in this film :)
@AJBiskit sadly i only know of charlie brooker who from what i know,actually makes programs and writes books.plus he mainly reviews news media thus cant create it.i do realise with hindsight my comments were flippant but people do act like his word is gospel and it bugs me because he blantantly loves himself a ridiculous ammount.plus he keeps on going on about his phd.we get it.you're a doctor.a suprising ammount of actors have dropped out of phd's to pursue hollywood dreams.
I doubt Kermode would rate Inception as much had it been directed by some one like....ooooh I don't know....Guy Richie? and not Christopher Nolan. Im sure we'd be hearing more about the implausible, convoluted storyline, and how it "insists" upon itself.
Sorry, but i'm fed up this ideal that the kings speech is the only British winner. Christian Bale won best supporting actor, he's British, but was not even recognised by his own country, same with Christopher Nolan, British director, and not backed up. Plus the tech awards for Inception were awarded to Brits.
Even today, I still don't know how Kramer vs. Kramer won the best picture over Apocalypse Now and The English Patient won over Fargo. The Oscars aren't bad, but their nominee and winner choices are often questionable. At least they're better than the f***ing Golden Globes.
@ihnlChiv Yeah, I'll concede that Kermode does seem to like the sound of his own voice a bit too much. I'd recomend looking up Roger Ebert, he's one of the more well renowned American film critics, and Ben Croshaw you might also know as "Yahtzee" of Zero Punctuation fame. And as it happens, Mark Kermode has written at least 1 book, but having not read it I can't pass comment on it's contents.
The Oscars voters are always going to be the older generation. Once you have that in mind the Oscars become very predictable. As long as a film gets nominations in the right places, that's what counts.
bacon irritated me here as well by reducing marks valid opinions to 'pet topics' - an opinion isnt a sweet filled with e-numbers which you consume and forget about, mark considers what hes saying and provides a measured argument, in spite of whether you agree with him. thats why hes a critic and richard bacon isnt
Whwen I think back to 2010, the first film I think of is 'Inception'. I think of 'The King's Speech', and as great as it was, it was NOT the best film of last year. Not by a long, long way.
People seem to be getting very wound up about what is clearly a light hearted wind up... I guess maybe it's not clearly a wind up if you haven't listened to all their conversations in the past but however annoying Bacon can be, these aren't his actual opinions, he's just trying to get a rise out of Kermode.
King's Speech is a great film, but Inception was better written, more original and inventive and had great direction. Inception should have won at least either best screenplay or director... Fuck the Academy.
@ToBePhair I think Kermode is a flawed film critic. I like him as a personality and he has great knowledge of films, but I find his reviews and opinions are, well, too opinionated. I know that sounds like a moronic thing to say, but allow me to amplify. He gave the Hangover a terrible review, citing that he spent his Bachelor party in a cinema on his own watching a 60mm screening of The Exorcist. This for me says a lot.
Inception is fucking awesome! I dont understand why it wasnt even nominated! Oh wells! I dont care, the oscars doesnt count for much these days, but I argee with Kermode, Inception is truely an awesome film!
People don't tune in to listen to some tool insulting their favorite film critic. They tune in to listen to their favorite film critic! O Simon, where art thou!?
@ihnlChiv Excuse me? But by that logic, lets ignore Roger Ebert, Charlie Brooker, Ben Croshaw or any other critic ever because they review stuff they're "Not Good Enough To Create." You don't need to be skilled in a field to critique it, rather you need to be *knowledgeable*, which Kermode is. Ok, he is wrong at times, and a little over rated but the man knows his stuff, and is well respected (which by your logic appears to be, rather vulgarly, "Bumming") and people will defend that.
@ToBePhair I think he is a Horror movie expert, and a great intellect when it comes to that particular genre. As a film critic, a critic of general cinema, he is far too narrow and biased with his reviews. In my opinion there should be someone else at the helm, someone else as our main British film critic (NOT Claudia Winkelman)... and Mark Kermode should spend his time working in and refining the horror genre it what ever capacity he can. I do agree with a lot of his reviews, however.
@uadfa Well Apocalypse Now is a very poor film really. 3 hours long with so much drivel. Its only the last 30 mins that is any good really. Kramer is a genius, classic, touching movie, masterfully directed.
@RockBottomRiser21 .....and is certinly not a masterpiece...there is very little of an intellectual interest in the film. Even other nolan films like insomnia and memento are much more interesting.. and in someway relevant or related to a real viewer and real life, which all real art is.
Kermode needs to climb out of Christopher Nolan's ass, he did not deserve a nomination! Inception was painfully average and dull, the characters were one dimensional, it was full of generic action sequences and half the dialogue was exposition. I've never seen Kermode articulate WHY Nolan deserved a nomination besides the fact that he thinks it's 'intelligent'. Er no it's not, it was simply convoluted and full of expository dialogue.
kermode. ...... is way to up on inception...it is not a smart or even particularily original movie...it s a movie for mike bay fans who want to feel a little better about themselves. it is a patronizing marginally interesting diversion. certainly not even close to a work of ART
A real critic should actually have been in the industry, made something of themselves in that industry THEN be allowed to critique the subject. Be it film, food or music.
@WalksBehindTheRose The definition of a director is to be in charge of the visual aspect of film, the actors come as one part of this. Inception was a very visual film, so it makes sense that the characters took the back seat and ultimately the film revolves around plot rather than story.
Bacon's a great presenter, he's clearly being contrary to get the best out of Kermode, he learnt that from Mayo.
I don't mind Bacon, but nothing beats the Mayo / Kermode combo
Honestly this young bloke doesn't even know what he's talking about. #Inception was the best movie of that year. It is a very condense and complex film and that's why the so-called Academy left it out of the category for best film that year. Thumbs up #MarkKermode for recognizing the cinematic significance of the film, which refers to machinations of the unconscious, which is both 'sujet' qua subject for both the arts and science.
Inception was also criminally overlooked in the film editing category. Wasn't even nominated for god sake.
I always tell people about Kermode's argument that "this is the same academy that DIDN'T give a best picture oscar to Citizen Kane or Raging Bull but DID give a best picture oscar to Titanic and Driving Miss Daisy"....it can't be put any better.
Me - i would've given every award to The Social Network except for best picture [if it was possible i would've given it to Toy Story 3]
The King's Speech is over-rated, boring and overly-nostalgiac for my liking.
:)
Would love to hear what mark has to say about spacey hosting the Oscars now
@WalksBehindTheRose The definition of a director is to be in charge of the visual aspect of film, the actors come as one part of this. Inception was a very visual film, so it makes sense that the characters took the back seat and ultimately the film revolves around plot rather than story.
Why is there something interrupting Kermode when he's talking?
@GaiashKetoji Well, he has a point, often the true judge of the quality of a technology is the public's reaction to it. For instance, when the ipod was first released, many of the leading technology experts said that it was overpriced and pointless but thanks to overwhelming public support, it has proven to be one of the greatest innovations of the decade. The fact is, when you are dealing with an entertainment product there is only one judge, the majority.
I love you, Mark Kermode.
I totally agree with Mark that Kevin Spacey would be a wonderful Oscar host. He's very sharp and has respectability. Or how about the combo of Robert Downey and Jude Law. I bet they can attract the younger demographic. But if they can't find anybody, just call Hugh Jackman, the guy's awesome.
Nolan and Inception ARE great. And they should have been awarded, or at least nominated. mark Kermode is so very right here. And since when was he proved wrong about Inception?
God I hate Richard Bacon and you can tell Kermode does as well!
Black swan was fantastic and my favourite film of 2010
@shawndimery You didn't get the point behind Apocalypse Now did you? I doubt you even read Heart of Darkness, the novella Apocalypse Now was loosely adapted from.
Up was the first 3D film to win an Oscar, last year. It won Best Animated Feature.
Inception should have been rewarded purely for the direction on Joseph Gordon Levitt's corridor walk scene. I'm surprised Kermode didn't mention The Illusionist missing out to Toy Story 3
@Animationgatecom Indeed! I think even Kermode would agree.
Will someone please punch Richard Bacon!
@ohthepeppers Also his laugh goes "bwa ha ha" in a very self-satisfied way.
Richard Bacon is way out of his depth when dealing with the good doctor, Mark is bang on the money as usual!
Somebody has the gall to disagree with and challenge Mark and everybody is up in arms about it? Grow up.
@GaiashKetoji But what it does do is show that the expert might be incorrect in his assessment, many of Kermode's criticisms of 3d are to do with it interfering with the film but if the majority of people find it adds to their enjoyment then 3D is a success. My point is that in something as subjective as entertainment, expert opinion really counts for nothing if it runs counter to the majority opinion.
If Richard Bacon thinks that whatever wins Best Picture at the Oscars IS the best picture for that year then god knows what he thinks of Taxi Driver or Raging Bull.
@postmasterw00t In my experience, it's inevitably people who use the word "douche" who turn out to be one (whatever that is).
I like Mark's idea of getting a certain type of funny person like Kevin Spacey hosting the Oscars
Kermode is so very right.
Nolan should have been nominated in 2011. Thankfully he finally won in 2024.
@MrSyrett Maybe you're right. But Kermode was, funnily enough, one of few critics who seemed to share my disappointment with TDK, so then again, maybe not. And he liked Sherlock Holmes, didn't he? I know I didn't, but he did. I certainly don't think Inception was the film of the year, nor am I angry that Nolan wasn't nominated, but clearly Kermode's opinions aren't as biased as you say they are, or at least not in the way you say they are.
@WalksBehindTheRose good point sir...actually his film insomnia has a very real human ellement to the film. so is more than "technical director." but not in this film :)
@adambungle He has made his own awards...
kermode is uncategorically wrong?? Its called an opinion it cant be uncategorically wrong!
Let alone the good doctors!
WHY THE HELL IS THE VOLUME SO DAMN LOW
They might as well get Danny Dyer to co-host with Mark. Actually that would be friggin awesome
@AJBiskit sadly i only know of charlie brooker who from what i know,actually makes programs and writes books.plus he mainly reviews news media thus cant create it.i do realise with hindsight my comments were flippant but people do act like his word is gospel and it bugs me because he blantantly loves himself a ridiculous ammount.plus he keeps on going on about his phd.we get it.you're a doctor.a suprising ammount of actors have dropped out of phd's to pursue hollywood dreams.
I doubt Kermode would rate Inception as much had it been directed by some one like....ooooh I don't know....Guy Richie? and not Christopher Nolan. Im sure we'd be hearing more about the implausible, convoluted storyline, and how it "insists" upon itself.
@Needham90 good point,but who watches the watchmen.i criticise the critics.ah
Sorry, but i'm fed up this ideal that the kings speech is the only British winner. Christian Bale won best supporting actor, he's British, but was not even recognised by his own country, same with Christopher Nolan, British director, and not backed up. Plus the tech awards for Inception were awarded to Brits.
@Gallifrey1991 This was a Bacon lunch with no Mayo on wry.
Even today, I still don't know how Kramer vs. Kramer won the best picture over Apocalypse Now and The English Patient won over Fargo. The Oscars aren't bad, but their nominee and winner choices are often questionable. At least they're better than the f***ing Golden Globes.
@ihnlChiv Yeah, I'll concede that Kermode does seem to like the sound of his own voice a bit too much. I'd recomend looking up Roger Ebert, he's one of the more well renowned American film critics, and Ben Croshaw you might also know as "Yahtzee" of Zero Punctuation fame. And as it happens, Mark Kermode has written at least 1 book, but having not read it I can't pass comment on it's contents.
Wasn't "Up" a 3D film?!
Can anyone else notice how Kermode gradually looks like he wants to slap Richard more and more?
The Oscars voters are always going to be the older generation. Once you have that in mind the Oscars become very predictable. As long as a film gets nominations in the right places, that's what counts.
Bacon just proves that mayo is great fun to kermode's big cake a doom.
Bacon is not clued up on film as the good doctor is
huh ? no edge at an Oscar ceremony, who'd have thought
Richard Bacon is there to make the Doctor look even better. Toy Story was definitely better in 2D
bacon irritated me here as well by reducing marks valid opinions to 'pet topics' - an opinion isnt a sweet filled with e-numbers which you consume and forget about, mark considers what hes saying and provides a measured argument, in spite of whether you agree with him. thats why hes a critic and richard bacon isnt
I hated Inception, so sick of hearing about how it should have been nominated for everything.
Whwen I think back to 2010, the first film I think of is 'Inception'. I think of 'The King's Speech', and as great as it was, it was NOT the best film of last year. Not by a long, long way.
@slimjimpui We all know that can't happen, cannisters would be very put across...
People seem to be getting very wound up about what is clearly a light hearted wind up... I guess maybe it's not clearly a wind up if you haven't listened to all their conversations in the past but however annoying Bacon can be, these aren't his actual opinions, he's just trying to get a rise out of Kermode.
Bacon trolling
King's Speech is a great film, but Inception was better written, more original and inventive and had great direction. Inception should have won at least either best screenplay or director... Fuck the Academy.
@Gaffacharge Totally agree. Get Mayo back soon as Bacon is a sarcastic smug git.
@Gaffacharge He was winding him up on purpose, for fun.
@ToBePhair I think Kermode is a flawed film critic. I like him as a personality and he has great knowledge of films, but I find his reviews and opinions are, well, too opinionated. I know that sounds like a moronic thing to say, but allow me to amplify. He gave the Hangover a terrible review, citing that he spent his Bachelor party in a cinema on his own watching a 60mm screening of The Exorcist. This for me says a lot.
bacon is playing devils advocate a very common tool however i do find it funny he mocked the journo who was also playing devils advocate
Inception is fucking awesome! I dont understand why it wasnt even nominated! Oh wells! I dont care, the oscars doesnt count for much these days, but I argee with Kermode, Inception is truely an awesome film!
People don't tune in to listen to some tool insulting their favorite film critic. They tune in to listen to their favorite film critic! O Simon, where art thou!?
I liked Kevin Bacon, i really did
@ihnlChiv Excuse me? But by that logic, lets ignore Roger Ebert, Charlie Brooker, Ben Croshaw or any other critic ever because they review stuff they're "Not Good Enough To Create." You don't need to be skilled in a field to critique it, rather you need to be *knowledgeable*, which Kermode is. Ok, he is wrong at times, and a little over rated but the man knows his stuff, and is well respected (which by your logic appears to be, rather vulgarly, "Bumming") and people will defend that.
@brucey2407
He's just being a troll here.
Bacon's a fool. Not worthy to share the same room as Kermode.
woo
@uadfa And that makes it a good film? Your logic baffles me.
It angered me that 127 Hours did not win anything!
@KingMinosxxvi Loathe Michael Bay, love Inception. Your statement of fact is invalid.
bacon made a sausage of himself.
@ihnlChiv Another person criticising critics... how ironic.
@ToBePhair I think he is a Horror movie expert, and a great intellect when it comes to that particular genre. As a film critic, a critic of general cinema, he is far too narrow and biased with his reviews. In my opinion there should be someone else at the helm, someone else as our main British film critic (NOT Claudia Winkelman)... and Mark Kermode should spend his time working in and refining the horror genre it what ever capacity he can. I do agree with a lot of his reviews, however.
@shawndimery I totally agree with Apocalypse Now, absolute rubbish!
@uadfa Well Apocalypse Now is a very poor film really. 3 hours long with so much drivel. Its only the last 30 mins that is any good really. Kramer is a genius, classic, touching movie, masterfully directed.
Snooooreee...Pip!
@RockBottomRiser21 .....and is certinly not a masterpiece...there is very little of an intellectual interest in the film. Even other nolan films like insomnia and memento are much more interesting.. and in someway relevant or related to a real viewer and real life, which all real art is.
Kermode needs to climb out of Christopher Nolan's ass, he did not deserve a nomination! Inception was painfully average and dull, the characters were one dimensional, it was full of generic action sequences and half the dialogue was exposition. I've never seen Kermode articulate WHY Nolan deserved a nomination besides the fact that he thinks it's 'intelligent'. Er no it's not, it was simply convoluted and full of expository dialogue.
Inception was so ridiculously overrated.
kermode. ...... is way to up on inception...it is not a smart or even particularily original movie...it s a movie for mike bay fans who want to feel a little better about themselves. it is a patronizing marginally interesting diversion. certainly not even close to a work of ART
A real critic should actually have been in the industry, made something of themselves in that industry THEN be allowed to critique the subject. Be it film, food or music.
@WalksBehindTheRose The definition of a director is to be in charge of the visual aspect of film, the actors come as one part of this. Inception was a very visual film, so it makes sense that the characters took the back seat and ultimately the film revolves around plot rather than story.