The reason why tracerifle arent used that much is because they require special ammo. Weapons with special ammo usually hit harder then primary but tracerifles dont, no need to use a gun that can run out of ammo if it isnt any better than one that cant run out. I really like tracerifles but they either need to run on primary ammo or get a massive damage boost
I was coming here to say this exactly. I think the only non-Microcosm Trace Rifle that should use Special Ammo is Divinity. Outside of that special case, they don't do enough damage, or put enough work in for the amount of ammo that's needed to use them efficiently in harder content. The biggest reason I stopped using them is due to the introduction of another weapon class.....the Rocket Sidearm. Even with the nerf to RS ammo reserves, they are so many levels above almost all Special weapons that even tried and trusted types such as Snipers and Fusions, have had their use cut down significantly because of the versatility of RS. As soon as some more Exotic RS come into the game, the amount of use that the majority of other Exotic Special weapons get will be massively reduced unless they get significant buffs
I wanna say this a bit of a misconception. This same thought can be said for Machine Guns, and why nobody uses a lot of those, even though they do good damage. Trace Rifles are those types of guns you DONT usually pair with a primary, or it is utilized like it IS one. When you treat it as an ad clear weapon rather than a burst damage weapon, suddenly how good they are changes drastically. Certain weapons have certain purposes, and if you don't use it for it's purpose, yeah it's gonna do pretty poorly!
I use an incisor, trials trace rifle in pvp, 90 range, 100 aim assist, and 100 handling, target the head of your adversaries, and it just melts people. Better than a shot gun, u can melt people across the map. 😊
Would agree for most of this, but I do think that a better arc handcannon to craft would be Posterity from DSC. It can get Voltshot and a damage perk, like frenzy, and has one of the best origin traits. Not saying that nation of beasts is bad, I just prefer posterity.
Abyss Defiant is my favorite Auto Rifle and favorite gun in the game. On top of HC + IC roll, melee kills proc the explosive Thrall origin trait for more explosions. Its fun in ad dense modes.
The scout you want, especially this season with barriers, Randy's throwing knife with UNDER-OVER + TREMORS. Most don't know how powerfull Under-Over is against barrier. VERY powerfull against shield. Add binding + disruption break gl with it... ;-)
The first two can easily be swapped out for yesterdays question and the summoner to all pvp players out there! The brigand can also be swapped for anonymous autumn. Same combos as mentioned and easier to get
@ alacrity is S-tier for all solo players and the hand cannon hits much harder than nation, wild card is top tier for ad clear and field test is another great one for pve. No origin trait is worth spending 3 weeks ina raid for frames.
that's completely fair, but half the weapons he named were from one of the easiest raid encounters to cheese. It took me 1 weekend to get the red borders for those
yeah with no anti champion mods special GLs and rocket sidearms are definitely more comfortable to use. they're essentially just auto rifles with a larger mag at this point
i promise you enlightened action is 10x better than pugilist on corrosion. what makes voltshot good on certain weapons is either a fast reload speed at base, or a perk that can cut down that reload speed. try enlightened action, trust.
Wouldn’t use doom of chelchis right now with barrier scout being weaker than ever, the void surge coming around is very nice for it though. Explosive payload and frenzy will always be a solid trait combo, very good overload scout when that is around.
I use most of these regularly. With the exception of the trace rifles and the sidearm. Doom of Chelchis is amazing, as is NoB and I used the shit out of Corrasion last season. But unless you're running something like consecration titan pugilist is not what I'd pick for that column, eddy current is unironically the perfect pick for a voltshot weapon. Pugilist isn't useful on a lot of builds (warlock looking at you).
"using a trace rifle is easy to do" but you have to jump through loopholes and build fully into one weapon when its worse than most primarys that also got mentioned in the video
Shoutout to the Garden of Salvation weapons with all of them being really good. Kinetic bow with Kinetic Tremors which enhanced procs in 2 shots (can get Archers Tempo in the 3rd to pair with it). A void Zaoulis with Destabilizing + Explosive Rounds on the Ancient Gospel as well as the old Kindred Orchid roll of Rampage + Kill Clip (my PvP roll is Lonewolf + Rangefinder). Those are just a couple of my favorites but the rapid fire void fusion is really good too. Honestly I don't think there's really a single weapon that doesn't have some use somewhere. The origin trait is stupid strong for all forms of content too (yes even PvP). Highly recommend farming for them the next time they're in rotation.
Ngl i had the pule from KFs adept with demo and dragonfly since the release of masters kfs and honestly it feels so fucking nice i masterworked it this season i should of started using it way before
🤔 you do know why 🤷 LOL why nobody uses trace rifles..as a destiny vet you already know. when it comes to picking a special weapon for our builds rocket sidearm fusion rifle nade launchers trace rifle 🤔🤷 its clearly why nobody chooses trace rifles
They really should just give Trace rifles a mini Target lock function by default. Ramp damage on sustained hits. That along could make Trace rifles a little more worth while since then you could use it for add clear and single target.
Non of this season's weapons (Episode 2: Revenant) are craftable. Bungie announced the change in one of the pre-season TWIDs. Basically they noticed that people just stopped playing seasonal activities once they had unlocked all the patterns so they have said from now on new seasonal guns are going back to RNG drops only. However they have made the new guns upgradable so if you get a roll you like you can level it up to get enhanced perks and use enhanced mods. As for weapons from previous seasons, raids, exotic missions etc.. you can still craft these at The Enclave on Mars as usual if you have the patterns unlocked. Old seasonal weapons obtained via Banshee, Xur, Dares and Exotic Missions can still have their patterns extracted with Deep Sight Harmonisers obtained via the season pass.
The reason why tracerifle arent used that much is because they require special ammo. Weapons with special ammo usually hit harder then primary but tracerifles dont, no need to use a gun that can run out of ammo if it isnt any better than one that cant run out. I really like tracerifles but they either need to run on primary ammo or get a massive damage boost
I was coming here to say this exactly.
I think the only non-Microcosm Trace Rifle that should use Special Ammo is Divinity. Outside of that special case, they don't do enough damage, or put enough work in for the amount of ammo that's needed to use them efficiently in harder content.
The biggest reason I stopped using them is due to the introduction of another weapon class.....the Rocket Sidearm.
Even with the nerf to RS ammo reserves, they are so many levels above almost all Special weapons that even tried and trusted types such as Snipers and Fusions, have had their use cut down significantly because of the versatility of RS.
As soon as some more Exotic RS come into the game, the amount of use that the majority of other Exotic Special weapons get will be massively reduced unless they get significant buffs
@@donogoodatgames yes i forgot to mention divinity, it should keep special ammo. Aegers scepter is still good enough to use though
This. Rocket sidearms and Choir of One show how good high capacity special weapons can be. Only exotic Trace Rifles are worth using right now
I wanna say this a bit of a misconception. This same thought can be said for Machine Guns, and why nobody uses a lot of those, even though they do good damage. Trace Rifles are those types of guns you DONT usually pair with a primary, or it is utilized like it IS one. When you treat it as an ad clear weapon rather than a burst damage weapon, suddenly how good they are changes drastically. Certain weapons have certain purposes, and if you don't use it for it's purpose, yeah it's gonna do pretty poorly!
I use an incisor, trials trace rifle in pvp, 90 range, 100 aim assist, and 100 handling, target the head of your adversaries, and it just melts people.
Better than a shot gun, u can melt people across the map. 😊
props on the video, alot of great weapons on here, tyranny is my favorite weapon in the game
Everyone forgot about age old Bond, dragonfly with destabilize rounds is wild
Or fortunate star with distablising rounds and repulsor brace
One of my favorites that's pretty underrated is the Claus Mini-Tool with unrelenting and incandescent
This one 🔥
Smg’s are pretty cheeks rn though
@@thebaconater250the peacekeeper buff has made them feel really good. Just have to use you exotic slot on an smg buff which sucks
@@ElectricMonkey99what about the other two classes? Like he said they’re trash
@@akarara6082what about them? I said smgs feel good while using peacekeepers. Nowhere did I mention the other classes.
Would agree for most of this, but I do think that a better arc handcannon to craft would be Posterity from DSC. It can get Voltshot and a damage perk, like frenzy, and has one of the best origin traits. Not saying that nation of beasts is bad, I just prefer posterity.
Nobody is using trace rifles since right now they are simply outclassed by rocket sidearms.
Abyss Defiant is my favorite Auto Rifle and favorite gun in the game. On top of HC + IC roll, melee kills proc the explosive Thrall origin trait for more explosions. Its fun in ad dense modes.
Underrated: Ancient gospel, destabilizing rounds + payload. I run it with gyrfalcons haubaerk, absolutely insane. Legendary hc version of graviton.
The scout you want, especially this season with barriers, Randy's throwing knife with UNDER-OVER + TREMORS. Most don't know how powerfull Under-Over is against barrier. VERY powerfull against shield. Add binding + disruption break gl with it... ;-)
The first two can easily be swapped out for yesterdays question and the summoner to all pvp players out there! The brigand can also be swapped for anonymous autumn. Same combos as mentioned and easier to get
you would need to weigh the value of the intrinsic perks tho vs essentially having no extra spice on the weapon.
@ alacrity is S-tier for all solo players and the hand cannon hits much harder than nation, wild card is top tier for ad clear and field test is another great one for pve. No origin trait is worth spending 3 weeks ina raid for frames.
AA is a better archetype than brigands anyways
Nobody forgot supremacy with rewind + KT, king of sniper rifles
Most of these are raid weapons, no shit they aren't meta, over half of destiny is casual and not doing raids🤦
that's completely fair, but half the weapons he named were from one of the easiest raid encounters to cheese. It took me 1 weekend to get the red borders for those
Their loss 😃
Why would casuals care about what’s meta?
Exactly what I’m thinking lmao
you get get last wish weapons by not even doing the raid
trace rifles are useless since rocket sidearms other than that good enough guns
yeah with no anti champion mods special GLs and rocket sidearms are definitely more comfortable to use. they're essentially just auto rifles with a larger mag at this point
Small nit-pick, but I HIGHLY recommend field prep over recon for Acadias. More reload just for crouching and more ammo? Yes please
Shoutout to critical anomaly with chaos reshaped and chill clip
i promise you enlightened action is 10x better than pugilist on corrosion. what makes voltshot good on certain weapons is either a fast reload speed at base, or a perk that can cut down that reload speed. try enlightened action, trust.
Wouldn’t use doom of chelchis right now with barrier scout being weaker than ever, the void surge coming around is very nice for it though. Explosive payload and frenzy will always be a solid trait combo, very good overload scout when that is around.
I use most of these regularly. With the exception of the trace rifles and the sidearm. Doom of Chelchis is amazing, as is NoB and
I used the shit out of Corrasion last season. But unless you're running something like consecration titan pugilist is not what I'd pick for that column, eddy current is unironically the perfect pick for a voltshot weapon. Pugilist isn't useful on a lot of builds (warlock looking at you).
100% abyss defiant is my favorite auto rifle in the game.
Why do you recommend Fourth Times a Charm over Kinetic Tremors on The Supremacy sniper rifle?
I'd assume because it's a rapid fire and you'll never have to reload it if you hit all crits. Great way to burst.
I personally use FTTC to avoid reloading. I'm not too sure on what the difference in damage numbers would look like in a damage phase though
"using a trace rifle is easy to do" but you have to jump through loopholes and build fully into one weapon when its worse than most primarys that also got mentioned in the video
The sidearm from crucible is probably better then bridgen law (it's not craft able)
@@nohckz i agree i saw it can get voltshot too with better 3rd column perks like attrition orbs
Shoutout to the Garden of Salvation weapons with all of them being really good.
Kinetic bow with Kinetic Tremors which enhanced procs in 2 shots (can get Archers Tempo in the 3rd to pair with it). A void Zaoulis with Destabilizing + Explosive Rounds on the Ancient Gospel as well as the old Kindred Orchid roll of Rampage + Kill Clip (my PvP roll is Lonewolf + Rangefinder).
Those are just a couple of my favorites but the rapid fire void fusion is really good too. Honestly I don't think there's really a single weapon that doesn't have some use somewhere. The origin trait is stupid strong for all forms of content too (yes even PvP). Highly recommend farming for them the next time they're in rotation.
For the bow, try Successful Warmup instead of Archers Tempo if pairing with KT, body shots or tremor kills proc warmup
Bro forgot about the new bow from salvations edge. Legendary trinity ghoul
Ancient gospel is literally void sunshot
Ngl i had the pule from KFs adept with demo and dragonfly since the release of masters kfs and honestly it feels so fucking nice i masterworked it this season i should of started using it way before
the pve meta is plagued by champion bs
Gravaton hits harder
🤔 you do know why 🤷 LOL why nobody uses trace rifles..as a destiny vet you already know. when it comes to picking a special weapon for our builds
rocket sidearm
fusion rifle
nade launchers
trace rifle 🤔🤷
its clearly why nobody chooses trace rifles
They really should just give Trace rifles a mini Target lock function by default. Ramp damage on sustained hits.
That along could make Trace rifles a little more worth while since then you could use it for add clear and single target.
My dawg
I really want to love more Nation of Beasts, but I can't get used to its design 😕
Nice video
i agree
Awesome video
I used the original doom from kings fall to the end of destiny 1.
can you still craft weapons this season and if so does anyone know where¿
Non of this season's weapons (Episode 2: Revenant) are craftable. Bungie announced the change in one of the pre-season TWIDs. Basically they noticed that people just stopped playing seasonal activities once they had unlocked all the patterns so they have said from now on new seasonal guns are going back to RNG drops only. However they have made the new guns upgradable so if you get a roll you like you can level it up to get enhanced perks and use enhanced mods.
As for weapons from previous seasons, raids, exotic missions etc.. you can still craft these at The Enclave on Mars as usual if you have the patterns unlocked. Old seasonal weapons obtained via Banshee, Xur, Dares and Exotic Missions can still have their patterns extracted with Deep Sight Harmonisers obtained via the season pass.
Been using corrosion on my consecration titan but switched to the bxr with Incan pugilist its far better.
BXR is a great weapon.
Stop telling people my hidden gems😡
Wow IB sidearm is amazing…..not
The bow from salvation's edge is better than the hand cannon in the bow in one save your time a get that
Some are theses are not being used because there locked in raids and not everyone does raids..
feelsbadman, all these cool stuff, but cant access coz i cant do raids for shit :(
I have most of them crafted still never use them
Nobody is using some of these weapons because not a lot of people know how to raid, lfg sucks sometimes
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lot of the guns in the list are not used because the gun type is terrible for end game content
Posterity is better than nation of beasts by a landslide
Posterity > Nation... Every day, night...
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