It really pisses me off that gamers in general only use the meta or whatever content creators say is good. Making builds out of unpopular guns is fun, try it some time.
I say it’s the devs fault for being heinous at game balance. I wouldn’t consider myself a meta slave but i’m also not going to use trash guns for no reason
Night Watch was my first favorite weapon in the game and what really got me to invest and play more - now I have like 1300 hours and still keep it in my vault. I would try for an absolute 5/5 god roll but don’t feel like grinding Gambit and spending 3x engrams a pop on each try
Same here one of the very oldest weapons that I dont think will ever leave my vault... however the Saint 14 scout is also 200 rpm kinetic with the same god roll and can be farmed with seasonal engrams, it looks very nice
Word of Crota on Prismatic Hunter is nasty. You can replace Destabilizing Rounds for another damage perk like Sword Logic and throw on Facet of Bravery to get the Volatile Rounds. Then all you need to do is use a grapple melee to proc both Volatile Rounds and Sword Logic
>The Last Breath if you were lucky enough to get it before Bungie stupidly changed the loot pool of Prophecy, could get Demo + Frenzy. It also had Subsistence, Adrenaline, Osmosis, One for All, etc. >Fatebringer with Explosive + Frenzy has always been fantastic. >Origin Story and Horror Story can get some nutty rolls. >Better Devils gets Demo/Pugilist + Frenzy. >Posterity gets Voltshot + Frenzy (although it's a disgusting 180). >Wild Style can get Reconstruction + Vorpal, Wilderflight gets Auto + Vorpal for DPS rotations, or just bursts of damage on beefier targets. >Tarnished Mettle gets Demo + Voltshot. >Parabellum gets Heal Clip + Frenzy. >No Survivors, while a bitch to get, is the only SMG with Demo + Incandescent. >The Slammer gets Eager Edge + Cold Steel >Falling Guillotine gets Whirlwind + Frenzy will have you at the top of team DPS for sword encounters with Wolfpack.
Nightwatch is power crept by patron of lost causes. It not only has an origin trait, you can get rapid hit explosive payload or rapid hit kinetic tremors on the same weapon if you get double perks.
"pOwEr CrEeP" is when you get a weapon years later with an Origin Trait that's extremely "meh," especially on Primaries, and has different perks that're all useful. Y'all need to stop with this mindless parroting. "pOwEr CrEeP" has almost never actually existed in Destiny, no matter what Datto and other big UA-camrs say. Someone can use Nightwatch or Patron, and not have wildly different experiences in playing. Hell, one could very easily make the argument that Nightwatch is better because it gets Demolitionist and Rampage as options.
Sorry to offend. I was just saying there is an enhancable weopon that is a little more up to date. You are absolutely correct. Weopons are weopons and just come down to what you want to use. 😁
@@ThatFalloutGodwell I agree that this isn't really a good example of power creep, it most certainly exists in this game A lot of old legendaries are just not competitive at all anymore
I love word of crota. I use zaoulis for solar, word for void, and posterity for arc. Better devils for strand and bold endings for stasis. All have a great place in different builds. I’m a hand cannon guy. There are better guns I know but I just enjoy these the most.
If anybody was interested in the Ros Arago IV and Heliocentric QSC (which are both great weapons, I'd just change the Ros god roll from Rewind or Repulsor to Subsistence/Onslaught. The synergy is insane), as he said in the video, running the daily lost sector gives you the chance at a drop, what he doesn't say is that if you do an Expert Lost Sector and get Platinum, then you can get double perks in each column. My first Ros Arago has got Rewind or Subsistence (so its good for add clear or champion stunning) so I've got the best of both worlds.
SMGs are just in a really bad spot. They are really bad without utility perks like Attrition Orbs, Shoot to Loot, Kinetic Tremors, Heal Clip, or Slice. I still love them though
There’s been a couple of weapons I’ve been using a lot recently, one new and one old. Maahes HC4: A new heavy burst void Handcanon. I managed to get a Repulor Brace + Destabilising Rounds Roll and it’s been single handedly doing so much work. Loud Lullaby: If I’m not using that, then I go back to my trusty old Loud Lullaby with Subsistence + Explosive Payload. It’s mag for me is JUST enough to reload 2 per kill which in the best of cases means I NEVER need to reload.
One of my favorite underrated weapons is Huckleberry, it's amazing, it has Pre-Nerf Rampage, infinite ammo as long as you can find things to kill, and it's being buffed soon too!
I agree! I've only been playing D2 for 9 months now, and I find it strange that out of so many great weapons, only new or meta weapons are used amongst the majority of the community. I was an avid Riptide user, but when the chill clip nerf happened, I got a fireteam together and got me four Deliverances to craft my chill clip roll. I just need one more to craft my demo+chill clip roll. Great video, fellow Gardian. 🍻
Just finished the bad juju catalyst. Great fun! I like running the multi-mock with kennic tremors / heart shadow sword / someday shotgun recombination / abyss defiant /
I mean it's great for barrier champs close-mid range. Long range it's a pea shooter. I use it on my mantle of battle harmony build so my kinetic slot still feeds into my solar super.
My favorite solar machine gun is the avalanche (dawning weapon). I run auto loading + incandescent, and it’s a wonderful ad clear weapon. The new world loot handcannon Maahes HC4 is one of my favorite hand cannons. It’s void, and I use a pretty good feeling general use roll of rapid hit and frenzy. The double fire hand cannons feel great in pve.
Love 21% delirium, but for me my fav is trust, grinded gambit at launch to get 21% one of the drops was trust with genesis and explosive payload, got sunsetted, so stopped using, final shape dropped and suddenly it got un-sunsetted, and it absolutely shreds, so goad I saved it
Last season was insane with solar however I got super sick of only seeing Polaris lance or sunshot but no reason to run anything else. This season I feel like there is a little more variety but still most builds consist of a rocket sidearm and a rocket launcher
I kept an old Night Watch with drop mag that I still have to this day. It also has rapid hit and explosive payload. It’s the fastest reloading scout rifle I have. Hung Jury and Taraxippos may be better now but I’ve always considered Night Watch as the ol’ reliable.
1:45 the gun you get given no longer comes with that roll they give you some random one now, i got a friend into destiny and he got a random roll not the curated one so i re did the quest line on a diferent character and i didnt get it either
Chronophage from the current season is really good for volatile round night stalkers as it isn’t exotic so you don’t need to use the exotic one that typically is run on that build
Re the Unforgiven, forget adrenaline junkie and just put on Golden Tricorn! For pretty much all void builds it works perfect and gives 50% extra damage pretty much constantly.
The saint14 scout patron of lost cause I believe is farmable this season with similar roles to night watch and a very strong origin trait! But night watch is still a favorite of mine as well.
I actually religiously use Word of Crota on my Titan. MY build is Demo/Junkie, effectively giving me more damage and never having to reload (Just throw a grenade instead)
Perfect pitch is the only gun i dont use out of this! Since lever action scoutrifles got a buff a while back you should try timeworn wayfarer with heal clip and incandescent, i still dont see it being used that much
Im glad you made a video for 9/10 weapons, that great. Night watch as your first choice.... alright i guess. I would have gone with hung jury since its also so easy to get and has drastically better rolls. Calis mini is better than perfect pitch, its not bad, but i think its a 7/10 vs 9/10. Before some asks "what better than calis since its a 9?" And i would have to say (for PVE) Osteo striga w/ necrotics is a 10/10. Funnel web / recluse and gyrfalcons is also a 10/10 imo and what makes them a 10 is the synergies. Im fully aware on how solar works. Im also aware you need at least 3 kills in a group of 4 or more for an ignition which is more that "just shoot" with osteo or dodge/shoot with funnel (yeah, i know prismatic requires a kill w/ ability to go invis, i use melee to proc radiant as well as volatile rounds, same difference, use ability, then shoot) Thats my logic on grading. Simple and effective. The more work, the lesser the grade. Not sure if im lazy or min/maxing. Lol
@@oxsila you get hung jury from running strikes... which like the campaign (I miss you red war), you eventually have to play anyways. I would give night watch 5... 6 for the god roll what ever that may be for you. Hung Jury with kinetic/StL is a great option for end game making it at least an 8/10. Maybe I'm just too custom to min/max, Idk.
@EternalD2 I've never thought of hung jury as "meta" but I mean, I guess it's traits kinda are but so many weapons get can have the same roll and they're better/more preferred... or so I thought, maybe I'm wrong and hung jury is the standard. Edit: watching cool guy right now, he is saying all the different weapons with one for all and easy procs like kinetic tremors and explosive payload... forgot it got those. Lol
@@TheGraffiti600rr Ah yes just save up 50 vanguard engrams to hope you get a good hung jury roll instead of just using the Night Watch you should already have
I've never used the meta based on it being meta, there are weapons I've loved using which have subsequently become the meta (then got nerfed...thanks youtubers!!) But I'll always play with the guns I enjoy the feel of and find the most fun to use else id simply rather not play if it isn't fun
I’ll admit I def use meta-popular weapons but I also use whatever I want, and make my own builds. People take a crap all over deterministic chaos but I have a lot of fun with it, especially since it got a buff a while back
I love my bad juju with unbreakable bear/armamentarium class item. Super is up all the time. The great thing is both of these are getting buffed next season/echo.
Both midnight coup and blast furnace with the right roles are top tier when it comes to kinetics. Midnight blows fatebringer out of the water with one for all, same goes for blast furnace both are extremely farmable.
i wato love ros arrago, i have this exact perk combo but it feels weak. dont know why, i mean its ok on red bars but there are other weapons that can do the same damage and perfom better on harder champions. Still will hope for a good buff soon
I use most of these, esp Bad Juju. Consider also, the Bodeica sidearm, from Gunsmith. Best range and aim assist in the game. Also, Subjunctive Arc smg. Awesome perk pool and melts in pvp.
On many gun why it isn't used is simple, especially on Ars and SMGs, if you take too long to kill an add, will lead you to more dying thus rocket sidearms and Handcannons all the way only on deliveranc the problem i can think of is either the 3rd column not having that amount of good rolls or Vow beeing one of the harder raids to play just for a weapontype people have Problems with or that many don't favour it Stacks up
I mean, with Unforgiven, Funnelweb and Recluse are easier to get and can do anything Unforgiven does, maybe better. Hell, The Title has the Classy Contender origin perk, you just need to be around for the Guardian Games and you'll get a billion quick
The night watches perks in the new light quest are different now just fyi to everyone. Its not the godroll anymore, now its a shitty roll, but if u ever plan on doing gms or solo hard content, you need to get that or the hung jury godroll, however. The night watch IS better. Alot of people think the hung jury is but its not ive done damage testing and the night watch actually does significantly more damage
Gonna be honest a decent amount of my friends do that with perks i dont use guns based on perks a chunk of the time i do it based on looks and sometimes perks i prefer a reload perk and a damage perk or something else like that i know some people are doing double dmg perks or stuff like that im still going by the d1 classic perk system workings get a reload perk and a dmg perk and you have a god roll gun
Man i used to love that nightwatch scout rifle. But replaced it with sr that can run kinetic tremors. Either way i haven't used scouts in a while tbh cuz they r a$$$ unfortunately
People don't use SMGs because SMGs scale very poorly in harder content, while also being unsafe. In easier content, everything is good. I love SMGs, so it pains me to say that. But that's the reality right now.
I was using Bad ju ju the other day in onslaught. After the 1st 10rnds, I was thinking why I the world do ppl talk so much trash about this pulse rifle. I was poppin my well every 1.5min or less.
Every solar weapon that comes out: "The God roll is Heal clip + Incan!!!!!" Like seriously, not everything needs to be the exact same as the other 10 weapons in your vault. I always look for what unique thing that specific weapon can do, not if it can do the same thing as everything else.
What makes a weapon good is their synergy with your build. A "bad" weapon can slay if it works with your build. Chad, meta only rules in Destiny because they are boring and unimaginative.
People just use guns that are meta currently, even though i cant talk cause i use Khvostov but i only use it cause it's been my favorite gun in D1 but i do use other guns that people dont give a $hit about
Hey i forgot to mention the crafted solar LMG from this season is craftable! Either way fixed odds is still goated.
I just got an adept word of crota with destabilizing rounds, sword logic, dragonfly, repulsor brace. And my god I love it.
Now thats a toy 💯
It really pisses me off that gamers in general only use the meta or whatever content creators say is good. Making builds out of unpopular guns is fun, try it some time.
i’m usually a meta slave but if i’m playing lower-medium level content then i use gimmicky guns cuz it’s fun
I say it’s the devs fault for being heinous at game balance. I wouldn’t consider myself a meta slave but i’m also not going to use trash guns for no reason
@themememaster423 the best way to grind is to clear the encounter as fast as you can. No shit players are gonna use the best of the best.
@@Ellyark define "trash guns", cuz most guns nowadays can easily compete.
@@lordgrub12345 the game being piss easy doesn’t magically make everything good
Night Watch was my first favorite weapon in the game and what really got me to invest and play more - now I have like 1300 hours and still keep it in my vault. I would try for an absolute 5/5 god roll but don’t feel like grinding Gambit and spending 3x engrams a pop on each try
Same here one of the very oldest weapons that I dont think will ever leave my vault... however the Saint 14 scout is also 200 rpm kinetic with the same god roll and can be farmed with seasonal engrams, it looks very nice
I like regular sidearms, but have not been able to justify using them at all once the rocket sidearms came out.
100% rocket side arms are too good
Word of Crota on Prismatic Hunter is nasty. You can replace Destabilizing Rounds for another damage perk like Sword Logic and throw on Facet of Bravery to get the Volatile Rounds. Then all you need to do is use a grapple melee to proc both Volatile Rounds and Sword Logic
>The Last Breath if you were lucky enough to get it before Bungie stupidly changed the loot pool of Prophecy, could get Demo + Frenzy. It also had Subsistence, Adrenaline, Osmosis, One for All, etc.
>Fatebringer with Explosive + Frenzy has always been fantastic.
>Origin Story and Horror Story can get some nutty rolls.
>Better Devils gets Demo/Pugilist + Frenzy.
>Posterity gets Voltshot + Frenzy (although it's a disgusting 180).
>Wild Style can get Reconstruction + Vorpal, Wilderflight gets Auto + Vorpal for DPS rotations, or just bursts of damage on beefier targets.
>Tarnished Mettle gets Demo + Voltshot.
>Parabellum gets Heal Clip + Frenzy.
>No Survivors, while a bitch to get, is the only SMG with Demo + Incandescent.
>The Slammer gets Eager Edge + Cold Steel
>Falling Guillotine gets Whirlwind + Frenzy will have you at the top of team DPS for sword encounters with Wolfpack.
Nightwatch is power crept by patron of lost causes. It not only has an origin trait, you can get rapid hit explosive payload or rapid hit kinetic tremors on the same weapon if you get double perks.
"pOwEr CrEeP" is when you get a weapon years later with an Origin Trait that's extremely "meh," especially on Primaries, and has different perks that're all useful.
Y'all need to stop with this mindless parroting. "pOwEr CrEeP" has almost never actually existed in Destiny, no matter what Datto and other big UA-camrs say. Someone can use Nightwatch or Patron, and not have wildly different experiences in playing. Hell, one could very easily make the argument that Nightwatch is better because it gets Demolitionist and Rampage as options.
Power crept is a stretch lol. Explosive isn't that inferior to kinetic tremors
Sorry to offend. I was just saying there is an enhancable weopon that is a little more up to date. You are absolutely correct. Weopons are weopons and just come down to what you want to use. 😁
@@ThatFalloutGodwell I agree that this isn't really a good example of power creep, it most certainly exists in this game A lot of old legendaries are just not competitive at all anymore
I love word of crota. I use zaoulis for solar, word for void, and posterity for arc. Better devils for strand and bold endings for stasis. All have a great place in different builds. I’m a hand cannon guy. There are better guns I know but I just enjoy these the most.
No there aren't many you're good
If anybody was interested in the Ros Arago IV and Heliocentric QSC (which are both great weapons, I'd just change the Ros god roll from Rewind or Repulsor to Subsistence/Onslaught. The synergy is insane), as he said in the video, running the daily lost sector gives you the chance at a drop, what he doesn't say is that if you do an Expert Lost Sector and get Platinum, then you can get double perks in each column.
My first Ros Arago has got Rewind or Subsistence (so its good for add clear or champion stunning) so I've got the best of both worlds.
Can't get Ros to drop with Sub/Onslaught. I've actually giving up trying
NICE. I’ve been using these Destiny down times to enjoy old exotic weapons that I never used before.
Just a note: There IS another craftable Solar Machine Gun. Speleologist from this Season/Episode
Noted, I completely forgot havent been chasing the new red borders this season
@EternalD2 it's rubbish. I use the Trials MG. It's awesome.
I was gonna say lmao I love that thing
@@Jonny_Nemoyou are tripping lmao
Unforgiven is the goat. Great to hear someone mention my beloved!
So good!
SMGs are just in a really bad spot. They are really bad without utility perks like Attrition Orbs, Shoot to Loot, Kinetic Tremors, Heal Clip, or Slice. I still love them though
Saw Word of Crota in the thumbnail and I wasn't even surprised it's still good, frankly I was surprised it's unpopular.
I LOVE BAD JUJU. Ive heard its getting buffed in revenant as well so happy
I have 18k kills on it 😅
There’s been a couple of weapons I’ve been using a lot recently, one new and one old.
Maahes HC4: A new heavy burst void Handcanon. I managed to get a Repulor Brace + Destabilising Rounds Roll and it’s been single handedly doing so much work.
Loud Lullaby: If I’m not using that, then I go back to my trusty old Loud Lullaby with Subsistence + Explosive Payload. It’s mag for me is JUST enough to reload 2 per kill which in the best of cases means I NEVER need to reload.
Been using MultiMach in Pve ever since I got a decent role this rotation of IB. Gun feels great and does pretty good damage. Highly recommend
One of my favorite underrated weapons is Huckleberry, it's amazing, it has Pre-Nerf Rampage, infinite ammo as long as you can find things to kill, and it's being buffed soon too!
Wait it will get a buff? Damn, i haven't used that gun since around Forsaken because it was getting powercrept.
@@sourakotsos Yeah, weapons like
Chaperone
Huckleberry
Bad Juju
Ex Diris
Prospector
etc.
Are getting buffs
I’m pretty sure the next TWID will deep dive into upcoming weapon and armor buffs for episode revenant
I agree! I've only been playing D2 for 9 months now, and I find it strange that out of so many great weapons, only new or meta weapons are used amongst the majority of the community.
I was an avid Riptide user, but when the chill clip nerf happened, I got a fireteam together and got me four Deliverances to craft my chill clip roll.
I just need one more to craft my demo+chill clip roll.
Great video, fellow Gardian. 🍻
Bad Juju’s damage increase at 5x is an 100% increase as each stack is a 20% increase
Just finished the bad juju catalyst. Great fun! I like running the multi-mock with kennic tremors / heart shadow sword / someday shotgun recombination / abyss defiant /
Good onya mate, great to see some Aussie content creators, thanks for sharing 😊
Glad you enjoyed
Deliverence has been my fusion of choice since VOW dropped. Even got me a few adept rolls.
I just got a subsistence+onslaught, 🔥 af 👌🏾. I’ll have to keep an eye out for rewind+onslaught.
My Helio has Heal Clip+Frenzy 👌🏾
I've used the bad juju for a long time. The only thing that made me stop using it was all the champions.
I mean it's great for barrier champs close-mid range. Long range it's a pea shooter. I use it on my mantle of battle harmony build so my kinetic slot still feeds into my solar super.
My favorite solar machine gun is the avalanche (dawning weapon). I run auto loading + incandescent, and it’s a wonderful ad clear weapon. The new world loot handcannon Maahes HC4 is one of my favorite hand cannons. It’s void, and I use a pretty good feeling general use roll of rapid hit and frenzy. The double fire hand cannons feel great in pve.
Love 21% delirium, but for me my fav is trust, grinded gambit at launch to get 21% one of the drops was trust with genesis and explosive payload, got sunsetted, so stopped using, final shape dropped and suddenly it got un-sunsetted, and it absolutely shreds, so goad I saved it
I got super lucky with the Ros. First ever drop I got from it was onslaught and rewind.
Last season was insane with solar however I got super sick of only seeing Polaris lance or sunshot but no reason to run anything else. This season I feel like there is a little more variety but still most builds consist of a rocket sidearm and a rocket launcher
I kept an old Night Watch with drop mag that I still have to this day. It also has rapid hit and explosive payload. It’s the fastest reloading scout rifle I have. Hung Jury and Taraxippos may be better now but I’ve always considered Night Watch as the ol’ reliable.
1:45 the gun you get given no longer comes with that roll they give you some random one now, i got a friend into destiny and he got a random roll not the curated one so i re did the quest line on a diferent character and i didnt get it either
Chronophage from the current season is really good for volatile round night stalkers as it isn’t exotic so you don’t need to use the exotic one that typically is run on that build
I’m going to be using word of Crota next season it’s my favourite hand cannon
Did they Nerf chill clip again? Or are you referring to the nerf that was ages ago?
I have an old Nightwatch with Drop Mag/Rapid Hit/Explosive Payload and I will never get rid of it.
Re the Unforgiven, forget adrenaline junkie and just put on Golden Tricorn! For pretty much all void builds it works perfect and gives 50% extra damage pretty much constantly.
It's hard to call a lot of these weapons "slept on", unless you mean that rocket sidearms have basically invalidated every primary in the game.
Speaking of Chill Clip…Lingering Dread, anyone???
The unforgiven was another missed opportunity in the perks. They could have given it subsistence. But instead thought tunnel vision is better.
The saint14 scout patron of lost cause I believe is farmable this season with similar roles to night watch and a very strong origin trait! But night watch is still a favorite of mine as well.
I fell into the meta when I used to main Word of Crota, I should use it again. I dont have the destabilizing rounds one, Im yet to get it craftable
Fixed Odds is nice and I still need 2 red borders for it but the new vex lmg can go up to 300 mag with envious. Its my new go-to
I actually religiously use Word of Crota on my Titan. MY build is Demo/Junkie, effectively giving me more damage and never having to reload (Just throw a grenade instead)
Perfect pitch is the only gun i dont use out of this! Since lever action scoutrifles got a buff a while back you should try timeworn wayfarer with heal clip and incandescent, i still dont see it being used that much
I use a gun called Laser Painter. Strand linear fusion rifle with clown cartridge and vorpal. It does good work on bosses 👍
The odds of getting that roll is so silly tho. I have how gambit has 63936339 perks in each Column
Khvostov is a beast in pve. That shoot to loot is a game changer.
Night watch is sooo good in GM’s especially when I use the one I kept with drop mag 😄
They did remove the guaranteed god roll, but they do still give you one in the introduction, it’s just random rolled now
Been using the adhorative solar pulse abit this season such a good pulse
Im glad you made a video for 9/10 weapons, that great. Night watch as your first choice.... alright i guess. I would have gone with hung jury since its also so easy to get and has drastically better rolls. Calis mini is better than perfect pitch, its not bad, but i think its a 7/10 vs 9/10. Before some asks "what better than calis since its a 9?" And i would have to say (for PVE) Osteo striga w/ necrotics is a 10/10. Funnel web / recluse and gyrfalcons is also a 10/10 imo and what makes them a 10 is the synergies. Im fully aware on how solar works. Im also aware you need at least 3 kills in a group of 4 or more for an ignition which is more that "just shoot" with osteo or dodge/shoot with funnel (yeah, i know prismatic requires a kill w/ ability to go invis, i use melee to proc radiant as well as volatile rounds, same difference, use ability, then shoot) Thats my logic on grading. Simple and effective. The more work, the lesser the grade. Not sure if im lazy or min/maxing. Lol
The point is hardly anyone uses it when it's one of the easiest and earliest weapons you get in the game and is still extremely solid
@@oxsila you get hung jury from running strikes... which like the campaign (I miss you red war), you eventually have to play anyways. I would give night watch 5... 6 for the god roll what ever that may be for you. Hung Jury with kinetic/StL is a great option for end game making it at least an 8/10. Maybe I'm just too custom to min/max, Idk.
The point of the video is ‘guns no one uses’. All your counter weapons are basically meta/popular guns?
@EternalD2 I've never thought of hung jury as "meta" but I mean, I guess it's traits kinda are but so many weapons get can have the same roll and they're better/more preferred... or so I thought, maybe I'm wrong and hung jury is the standard.
Edit: watching cool guy right now, he is saying all the different weapons with one for all and easy procs like kinetic tremors and explosive payload... forgot it got those. Lol
@@TheGraffiti600rr Ah yes just save up 50 vanguard engrams to hope you get a good hung jury roll instead of just using the Night Watch you should already have
I've never used the meta based on it being meta, there are weapons I've loved using which have subsequently become the meta (then got nerfed...thanks youtubers!!)
But I'll always play with the guns I enjoy the feel of and find the most fun to use else id simply rather not play if it isn't fun
I’ll admit I def use meta-popular weapons but I also use whatever I want, and make my own builds.
People take a crap all over deterministic chaos but I have a lot of fun with it, especially since it got a buff a while back
Deterministic is a seriously solid choice for high difficulty content with barrier champs
I love my bad juju with unbreakable bear/armamentarium class item. Super is up all the time. The great thing is both of these are getting buffed next season/echo.
Both midnight coup and blast furnace with the right roles are top tier when it comes to kinetics. Midnight blows fatebringer out of the water with one for all, same goes for blast furnace both are extremely farmable.
Malediction goes crazy too!
i wato love ros arrago, i have this exact perk combo but it feels weak. dont know why, i mean its ok on red bars but there are other weapons that can do the same damage and perfom better on harder champions. Still will hope for a good buff soon
I use most of these, esp Bad Juju. Consider also, the Bodeica sidearm, from Gunsmith. Best range and aim assist in the game. Also, Subjunctive Arc smg. Awesome perk pool and melts in pvp.
On many gun why it isn't used is simple, especially on Ars and SMGs, if you take too long to kill an add, will lead you to more dying thus rocket sidearms and Handcannons all the way only on deliveranc the problem i can think of is either the 3rd column not having that amount of good rolls or Vow beeing one of the harder raids to play just for a weapontype people have Problems with or that many don't favour it Stacks up
my boy night watch on the list!
Bad juju has always been my favorite
I mean, with Unforgiven, Funnelweb and Recluse are easier to get and can do anything Unforgiven does, maybe better. Hell, The Title has the Classy Contender origin perk, you just need to be around for the Guardian Games and you'll get a billion quick
It's the curated role from season of the drifter, with overload explosive payload
Fixed odds isn’t the only craftable solar machine gun
Got word of crota adept this week with dragonfly and destibi
The night watches perks in the new light quest are different now just fyi to everyone. Its not the godroll anymore, now its a shitty roll, but if u ever plan on doing gms or solo hard content, you need to get that or the hung jury godroll, however. The night watch IS better. Alot of people think the hung jury is but its not ive done damage testing and the night watch actually does significantly more damage
Hell i still use the new title on my volitile warlock. Can spam child of the old god so much its insane.
I miss my Rampage, Kill clip Kindled Orchid. Belive me i tried getting it out of collection but it has a different static roll.
Night watch from the quest comes with overflow and explosive payload
Since the release of the dungeon Duality, I've been farming for Unforgiven with demo and repulsor...still havent gotten it
Golden tricorn and demo is a good pairing for it
I wish bad juju would work with necrotic grips, I would use it more often
Gonna be honest a decent amount of my friends do that with perks i dont use guns based on perks a chunk of the time i do it based on looks and sometimes perks i prefer a reload perk and a damage perk or something else like that i know some people are doing double dmg perks or stuff like that im still going by the d1 classic perk system workings get a reload perk and a dmg perk and you have a god roll gun
the bad juju has a secret ability when getting like 100 something itll cause a thrall explosion im not sure if it still doe this
Man i used to love that nightwatch scout rifle. But replaced it with sr that can run kinetic tremors. Either way i haven't used scouts in a while tbh cuz they r a$$$ unfortunately
Still using my Travellers Judgment 5 from when Dawn reprised it
Agreed. Great vid. Subbed
I make fun builds like
Renewal with buried bloodline
Caliban's hand
Cadmus ridge
Gifted conviction with buried bloodline
Briarbinds
Prismatic swamers
I just use whatever I want, if i feel it's doing what i need it to it's probably getting used
Dragonfly destabilizing word of crota is better than sunshot imo
Randi’s throwing knife tremors zen
Aurvandil FR4 is better than deliverance, it gets reconstruction Chillclip allowing for 9 chill clip bursts
charge time is WAY too long though
People don't use SMGs because SMGs scale very poorly in harder content, while also being unsafe. In easier content, everything is good. I love SMGs, so it pains me to say that. But that's the reality right now.
I will as soon as I get all my craftables to level 30
Love my demo/tricorn unforgiven
I was using Bad ju ju the other day in onslaught. After the 1st 10rnds, I was thinking why I the world do ppl talk so much trash about this pulse rifle. I was poppin my well every 1.5min or less.
Every solar weapon that comes out: "The God roll is Heal clip + Incan!!!!!"
Like seriously, not everything needs to be the exact same as the other 10 weapons in your vault. I always look for what unique thing that specific weapon can do, not if it can do the same thing as everything else.
I feel the same about void weapons w/ Repulsor Brace + Destabilizing Rounds
Eternal since I'm kinda early are you on destiny if so can I play with you
Bad Juju with a Glacier Quake titan is Disgusting! It's my titan's trademark weapon.
I like unforgiven but the mag is to unforgiving. 30 isn't enough and the reload is so slow
What makes a weapon good is their synergy with your build. A "bad" weapon can slay if it works with your build.
Chad, meta only rules in Destiny because they are boring and unimaginative.
I will always hold the belief that if you only follow the meta, you are a boring person and dont know what fun is
People don't like have diviny in raids anymore. It is werid and tractor cannon as well.
destiny 2 have 2 big enemy, bungie and the babybase
Shout out overflow explosive payload night watch
SPELEOLOGIST SOLAR TOO
Word of Crota >>>>>>>>
Exactly meta is stupid and so are the players depend on it.
People just use guns that are meta currently, even though i cant talk cause i use Khvostov but i only use it cause it's been my favorite gun in D1 but i do use other guns that people dont give a $hit about
Huckleberry 👌
spieologist is craftable.
So now all the Mid gun this game have are called “slept on”? Thats kinda cringe