The raffle is open to everyone - Tour pack will be shipped to the winner - world wide. Outside the USA and Canada - only stickers can be purchased. Good luck.
I worked out a deal with the dealership to install the forward controls ahead of time. They installed them that day before I left with the bike. every test ride with mid controls I hated them. Felt like I was being cramped way too much and could not get my feet on the ground quick enough at stop lights. Knew I'd never be happy with them so I worked it out ahead of time. Glad you like them.
Harley factory worker here, those clevos pin rings can be a bull. Long needle nose pliers are your friend for installing them when the headers and sheilds are in the way.
Sandy thanks for this info. I just got my El Diablo and I love the looks/style but honestly its the most uncomfortable bike i've ever ridden. I'm def going this route and changing to foward controls. Just super annoying to have to spend this much $$ and then a lot more to get it right. I cant imagine who rides this bike stock for any lenght of time - my legs were cramping within 20 mins.
i got the el Diablo as well and have been riding stock its painful as hell. but just saw this vid man its amazing swap and easy. def going to do this bro
New to me. Coming off of a Suzuki Hayabusa, this is my first non-sports bike. Want to stretch out a little. I'm 6'4" tall with 34-inch inseam, so legs are flexed quite a bit. I really like your style of presenting information. You don't blah blah endlessly and you get things done. I appreciate that. Subscribing. Looking forward to seeing what other videos you've done that cover this HD. Very cool, thank you.
You may have been able to get the blacked out kit and use a pedal extender. We put a wide brake pedal on wife’s sport glide and it fixed all her thick thigh caused issues.
I was most afraid of the bolt behind the primary.That was the quarter inch allen wrench! Thank you so much for telling me the size! I almost used the wrong size. Thank you so much for this video!!!!!
I was watching another UA-camr do a similar install and noticed he was using much longer than necessary extensions on is socket wrench. It really bugged me, but I figured out why while watching your video. It was so he could get a better camera angle. You might try the same with both bolts and allen and hex sockets.
I went with heritage, softail floorboards and forward controls, hundred percent more comfortable than pegs plus the full-size floorboard. I appreciate your videos. They have helped me so much ride safe.
You did this on the low rider st? I've been looking for a way to do this with heritage or fat boy floorboards. Any chance you'd be willing to share a parts list of what was needed?
I had an idea for you. Since you have a good relationship with ADVANBLACK, perhaps they could come up with an idea to solve the Low Rider ST headlight ring from coming off? Maybe if they made a ring with a magnetic backing or Velcro backing, perhaps fabricate a new ring with better snap in prongs so they will not pop off so easily. They may not know of the problem that this bike has.
Great info regarding the 2 fwd. control kits that HD offers. Two different kits but each only available one way (chrome or black)...odd indeed. Procrasting at this time about doing same mod to my Low Rider S. Thanks for making and posting this video. My primary Harley is a '21RGS, and my secondary Harley is a '22FXLRS. I've been thinking about eliminating the mid-controls on the Low Rider S, and replacing with forward controls, purely for increased comfort (I'm 5'10", 170Lbs. and 32" inseam). I do admit to be completely spoiled by the Touring Chassis, specially with upgraded aftermarket suspension. As such, I ride the Road Glide about 75+% of the time as opposed to the softail; specially highway interstate/freeway rides. My previous softail (actually a Dyna) was a 2016 Low Rider, Black, 103 Twin Cam, and was factory forward controls; was actually very comfortable. Stay safe brother (both low level flight on the Harleys, and soaring up in the clouds when piloting the big Jets)!
I wish people when making these videos, they would tell us how tall they are and recommend what they think if you're taller or shorter what one should do. I am 6' 6" and I want to know how forward controls would be on this bike (before I buy the bike).
Sandy, gotta love the “calibrated elbow” versus that torque wrench. 🤣🤣. I know it’s all in jest and someone will complain either way - keepin’ it real and that’s why we watch your videos brother. Those Holy Land items are an amazing treasure and I hope they bring you some more traffic to the site. As always, stay safe and keep filming!
Thanks for that well demonstrated fitting, my forward kit should be here any day. Did not know of the difference between the chrome and black brake pedals but went for black at time as I have a Streetbob.
@devinmoore1352 Its way better then the mids. I can ride couple hours with the stock seat. But your knees will hit the aircleaner when braking unless you change that out too.
@@HOLYSHIFT That black cover goes on the trans shifter arm like autolink stated but it is and old design left over from Twin Cams...not M8s...not sure why harley hasnt updated it yet
Thumbs up, good content. It would be informative to know what you paid for the parts and powder coating. I have a '22 S and wonder wtf H-D was thinking regarding the rider triangle on the bike.
One of these days I will be able to add forward controls to my 2020 FXLRS. I've had them on order for over 4 months and now they are saying they won't ship until the end of September, which I will believe only when I have a tracking number.
If I wasn’t already subbed I’d deff do it cause all I had to do was watch this video and pause every couple steps and I got this done EASY PEASY…… Thanks man!!! I only put blue loctite on a few bolts basically the ones that had blue when I removed them. And I didn’t really clean the old stuff off cause I didn’t have any wire brushes or cleaning spray so I’ll check them after every ride for a few rides and see how they do. Then maybe next week I’ll take one by one out and re do them after cleaning
Thank you for sharing 👏👍🏻 Very informative and my favorite part is your precision "HAND" you could be a Surgeon...😂😅🤣 Plus, being a Pilot you shouldbbe really precise ✌️
8945(chrome) 8946(gloss black) SPLINE DR PEG ADAPT 18-UP SOFTAIL RIDER POSITION ON 18-UP FX SOFTAIL MODELS You might have purchased the rear ones. When I bought mine they only had them in chrome. Which wasn't a big deal for me since you really don't see them. Check out some of my videos, I have links to almost everything I've done so far to my FXLRST.
Wassup bro. I'm thinking of trading my RGS 2021 in for the 24 Low rider ST. But I need to know if the forward controls place the pegs at close to the position of the forwards on the RGS. Can you help out? I can only ride whey forwards due to hip issues and I don't want to trade and realize they're not dilated to the bagger touring models
Hello Sandy New subscriber from San Diego.. Love your videos brother I have my Lowrider ST on order should have it sometime in September. I am also tall and middle-aged lol thanks for the info my friend
Do you know if the process of switching back to the mid controls would be the same but in reverse? I want to switch back but I don’t wanna open the primary and Harley said it would cost me $380 to switch back
Thank you for this video! I would be interested in the view from the other side. How these new forward controls match with the Heavy breather. I suppose I‘m a little bit taller that you (I’m 6ft 2) and I‘m afraid, that my right shin would permanently touch the Heavy Breather.
Just picked up a 23 lowrider st in vivid black here in PA. Im 6ft and these might be a option for me, but first comes a new exhaust, stock is too quiet.
Great vid👍i like the forward controls and considering to install they when i get my low rider in September (hopefully). I think u may have thinking about longer riser’s to get a more comfortable riding position! Greetings from muc 🇩🇪🍺
Hi Bro, very nice and important Vid. I have the same problem with the foreward control on my new LR s 117. Cannot use the back break without extreme Yoga with my legs. Is the crome one really better? I miss the picture of your new break Position and foot Position. If you have one, please post it. My HD Dealer ordered the break from the Heritage and from the Breakout. Next week we will try, what fits better. Kind regards from Germany. Stefan
Hey buddy- no Yoga needed with the new brake pedal ! 😆 there’s a flare to the right and the rubber cover that sticks out - so it’s s much easier to hit the brakes . The air intake is very cool but it limits my legs to hug the fuel tank . I might be swapping it for something smaller
Nice mod Sandy. The ST is a great looking bike. How tall are you? My son has been riding a Road King for a few years. Took an ST for a demo ride at Laconia and he loved the bike but he’s all of 6 ft 4 and needs max leg stretch.
The raffle is open to everyone - Tour pack will be shipped to the winner - world wide.
Outside the USA and Canada - only stickers can be purchased. Good luck.
I worked out a deal with the dealership to install the forward controls ahead of time. They installed them that day before I left with the bike. every test ride with mid controls I hated them. Felt like I was being cramped way too much and could not get my feet on the ground quick enough at stop lights. Knew I'd never be happy with them so I worked it out ahead of time. Glad you like them.
Harley factory worker here, those clevos pin rings can be a bull. Long needle nose pliers are your friend for installing them when the headers and sheilds are in the way.
One of the main reasons I picked the Fat Bob, forward controls. Little burnt out of all the Jax, Son of Anarchy wannabee club style.
Amen brother.
Found these!
Harley Davidson Softail Low Rider ST 2022 forward control Craftride VF3
Sandy thanks for this info. I just got my El Diablo and I love the looks/style but honestly its the most uncomfortable bike i've ever ridden. I'm def going this route and changing to foward controls. Just super annoying to have to spend this much $$ and then a lot more to get it right. I cant imagine who rides this bike stock for any lenght of time - my legs were cramping within 20 mins.
You will be very comfortable once you get the forward controls! I promise!
i got the el Diablo as well and have been riding stock its painful as hell. but just saw this vid man its amazing swap and easy.
def going to do this bro
New to me. Coming off of a Suzuki Hayabusa, this is my first non-sports bike. Want to stretch out a little. I'm 6'4" tall with 34-inch inseam, so legs are flexed quite a bit. I really like your style of presenting information. You don't blah blah endlessly and you get things done. I appreciate that. Subscribing. Looking forward to seeing what other videos you've done that cover this HD. Very cool, thank you.
Thanks
Lol my 28 inch inseam is still crunched
You may have been able to get the blacked out kit and use a pedal extender. We put a wide brake pedal on wife’s sport glide and it fixed all her thick thigh caused issues.
I was most afraid of the bolt behind the primary.That was the quarter inch allen wrench! Thank you so much for telling me the size! I almost used the wrong size. Thank you so much for this video!!!!!
So now you built out your ST to be almost the same as your electraglide! 🤣
You got that right! Frame replacement soon , then batwing 👍🏻 😆 LOL 👍🏻 -
😂😂😂😂
I'd like to try it with the tall boy seat before changing the mids.
I was watching another UA-camr do a similar install and noticed he was using much longer than necessary extensions on is socket wrench. It really bugged me, but I figured out why while watching your video. It was so he could get a better camera angle. You might try the same with both bolts and allen and hex sockets.
I went with heritage, softail floorboards and forward controls, hundred percent more comfortable than pegs plus the full-size floorboard. I appreciate your videos. They have helped me so much ride safe.
You did this on the low rider st? I've been looking for a way to do this with heritage or fat boy floorboards. Any chance you'd be willing to share a parts list of what was needed?
@@CurtisSteinbacher I’ve got one better for you. I’ve got 90% of what you need for sale. All OEM heritage softail parts.
Forwards…. Nooooo!!!!
Why god !! Lol
That black piece you were asking what it is goes over the rear shifter arm to make it black. It’s just a cover.
I had an idea for you. Since you have a good relationship with ADVANBLACK, perhaps they could come up with an idea to solve the Low Rider ST headlight ring from coming off? Maybe if they made a ring with a magnetic backing or Velcro backing, perhaps fabricate a new ring with better snap in prongs so they will not pop off so easily. They may not know of the problem that this bike has.
Great info regarding the 2 fwd. control kits that HD offers. Two different kits but each only available one way (chrome or black)...odd indeed. Procrasting at this time about doing same mod to my Low Rider S. Thanks for making and posting this video.
My primary Harley is a '21RGS, and my secondary Harley is a '22FXLRS. I've been thinking about eliminating the mid-controls on the Low Rider S, and replacing with forward controls, purely for increased comfort (I'm 5'10", 170Lbs. and 32" inseam). I do admit to be completely spoiled by the Touring Chassis, specially with upgraded aftermarket suspension. As such, I ride the Road Glide about 75+% of the time as opposed to the softail; specially highway interstate/freeway rides.
My previous softail (actually a Dyna) was a 2016 Low Rider, Black, 103 Twin Cam, and was factory forward controls; was actually very comfortable. Stay safe brother (both low level flight on the Harleys, and soaring up in the clouds when piloting the big Jets)!
I’m too 5”10’ 175 and waist 33-34
Those are definitely looking more comfortable for you Sandy, nice addition. 👍
Does the air filter get in the way of your leg on the forward controls? I was told may need to replace mine for clearance.
I wish people when making these videos, they would tell us how tall they are and recommend what they think if you're taller or shorter what one should do. I am 6' 6" and I want to know how forward controls would be on this bike (before I buy the bike).
Another solid video. You planned this out. And it was easy to understand. Fun to watch. Damn Good Job.
Would totally be stoked for something from the Holy Land!
Maybe one of those olive 🫒 tree necklace.
😂😂😂😂
Sandy, gotta love the “calibrated elbow” versus that torque wrench. 🤣🤣. I know it’s all in jest and someone will complain either way - keepin’ it real and that’s why we watch your videos brother. Those Holy Land items are an amazing treasure and I hope they bring you some more traffic to the site. As always, stay safe and keep filming!
Thanks so much buddy! I love reading comments like yours!
How about for the next give-away, you do a forward control kit...powder coated, of course.
That's interesting I had no idea the two were actually a different design. I would have guessed just a difference in finish. How weird.
Thanks for that well demonstrated fitting, my forward kit should be here any day. Did not know of the difference between the chrome and black brake pedals but went for black at time as I have a Streetbob.
I knew there were 2 different designs. Went for the chrome design and powder coated it black
Sandy, we need to get you some Allen & Torx sockets, and a tork wrench😃. Enjoyed watching the installation! Keeping it real buddy.
Great informative Technical Engineering FWD Controls Post here ! You Rock Sandy !
Thanks
Another AWESOME Video Sandy
The Rosary for the bike is a Great idea
Thanks brother.
Just wondering if your leg hits the air cleaner while riding and braking with the forward controls?
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My knees hit the stock air filter, and I'm 5'11
@@baharmast11 how comfortable are you riding? Im 6'0" and really want to get this bike. Dont really want a street glide or road glide
@devinmoore1352 Its way better then the mids. I can ride couple hours with the stock seat. But your knees will hit the aircleaner when braking unless you change that out too.
@@baharmast11 right on, thanks for the information man!
What’s the part number for that blacked out shift linkage?
The black cover is for the shifter arm. The one that slides on the transmission rod.
I thought so - but on the softail - it’s curved so it doesn’t fit . Maybe on the baggers it does
@@HOLYSHIFT Yes, it fits my street glide, so probably different for soft tail.
@@HOLYSHIFT That black cover goes on the trans shifter arm like autolink stated but it is and old design left over from Twin Cams...not M8s...not sure why harley hasnt updated it yet
The black peice goes on the trans.shifter arm ,and what about the hole on the inner primary?
Thumbs up, good content. It would be informative to know what you paid for the parts and powder coating. I have a '22 S and wonder wtf H-D was thinking regarding the rider triangle on the bike.
One of these days I will be able to add forward controls to my 2020 FXLRS. I've had them on order for over 4 months and now they are saying they won't ship until the end of September, which I will believe only when I have a tracking number.
What size is that black shifter hole plug, my kit didn’t come with one I gotta pickup from hardware store. Thanks
If I wasn’t already subbed I’d deff do it cause all I had to do was watch this video and pause every couple steps and I got this done EASY PEASY…… Thanks man!!! I only put blue loctite on a few bolts basically the ones that had blue when I removed them. And I didn’t really clean the old stuff off cause I didn’t have any wire brushes or cleaning spray so I’ll check them after every ride for a few rides and see how they do. Then maybe next week I’ll take one by one out and re do them after cleaning
Thank you for sharing 👏👍🏻
Very informative and my favorite part is your precision "HAND" you could be a Surgeon...😂😅🤣
Plus, being a Pilot you shouldbbe really precise ✌️
👍🏻 😆 LOL 👍🏻 thanks for watching...
Nice one, it'll soon be as practical as the Electra Glide Standard 😏
😂😂😂😂😂
Really digging the build ! Those bikes are so slick
Thanks buddy- I’m loving it
Test rode one. Got that right about being 53 and that being uncomfortable.
what kind of lift do you have the bike on? Looks good for doing minor repairs.
Because all those Harley parts are made in China or Taiwan Don't believe me look at the tags where it's from.
8945(chrome) 8946(gloss black)
SPLINE DR PEG ADAPT 18-UP SOFTAIL RIDER POSITION ON 18-UP FX SOFTAIL MODELS
You might have purchased the rear ones. When I bought mine they only had them in chrome. Which wasn't a big deal for me since you really don't see them. Check out some of my videos, I have links to almost everything I've done so far to my FXLRST.
Thanks buddy. They’re out of stock for a while now…
Hd 41600219 part
How tall are you and what is your inseam for reference? Thanks!
Hey man! I’m about to head to the regionals, which airline are you at?
wont be able to put the lowers on with the forward pegs though i don't think and the lowers make that bike.
How about the plug in side
Wassup bro. I'm thinking of trading my RGS 2021 in for the 24 Low rider ST. But I need to know if the forward controls place the pegs at close to the position of the forwards on the RGS. Can you help out? I can only ride whey forwards due to hip issues and I don't want to trade and realize they're not dilated to the bagger touring models
Hows the rear brake with forwards? I just purchased same st as you and the rear brake is trash.
Hahaha!! I, too, don't need a torque wrench!!! It's just two clicks of the elbow and it's good!!! 😉😆
Are you still able to run crash bars with the forward controls?
Hello Sandy New subscriber from San Diego.. Love your videos brother I have my Lowrider ST on order should have it sometime in September. I am also tall and middle-aged lol thanks for the info my friend
Looks way more comfortable! And that other piece u asked about, it belongs in the trash 🤣🤣🤣 thats where mine went 🤣🤣🤣
🤪 my trash is full of those kind of items…
@@HOLYSHIFT 🤣
So the plug you painted for the primary you have to put one in the back of the primary too right ? And do they come in kit ?
1 is in kit . And it only for aesthetics . There is no plug on other side . No need for it
@@HOLYSHIFT Thanks man 🍺
Where does the plug come from?
great Vid Bro. Planning to go to the bike and breakfast next month, maybe Ill se you guys there
That’s the plan!
Awesome, awesome video bro. Very helpful.
I ordered the same part and it came the same way as what yours did and I’m at a loss for why that is
Will the Bung King engine gaurd still fit with the forward controls?
I have that as well on my Lowrider S and would be curious to find out before doing forward controls.
Hey I was told that you couldn't put forward controls with the crash bar how did you do it
Just did
After the fwd controls were onstalled does the air cleaner get in the waynof your right leg in any way?
No !
Keep us updated on the floorboards issue. Wondering which model you got.
Surprise- soon
Do you know if the process of switching back to the mid controls would be the same but in reverse? I want to switch back but I don’t wanna open the primary and Harley said it would cost me $380 to switch back
Nice much better comfort and look.
Thank you for this video! I would be interested in the view from the other side. How these new forward controls match with the Heavy breather. I suppose I‘m a little bit taller that you (I’m 6ft 2) and I‘m afraid, that my right shin would permanently touch the Heavy Breather.
Your shin will touch ! It touches my shin- even with the mid controls. I swapped my breather yesterday- stay tuned
Hi Sandy
Where were able to find the forward controls? I have a low rider st and I can’t find a Harley dealer that has them in stock!
Is there a plug that goes on the inside where you got the pinch bolt out?
After being on the touring frame, how is the ST in comparison for highway stability, wind deflection, etc. ?
Just picked up a 23 lowrider st in vivid black here in PA. Im 6ft and these might be a option for me, but first comes a new exhaust, stock is too quiet.
Yeah like a sewing machine 😂
I pick mine up tomorrow.
What did u use to plug the inside hole of the inner primary.?
?
Thank you
Great vid👍i like the forward controls and considering to install they when i get my low rider in September (hopefully).
I think u may have thinking about longer riser’s to get a more comfortable riding position!
Greetings from muc 🇩🇪🍺
That’s the plan. Once I get seat I’ll know exactly my final sitting position and get risers accordingly
@@HOLYSHIFT
👍👍
i am very curious about the results 😎 how things going with the floorboards?
Will the forward controls work with the Mustache bar? That's the only thing holding me back from doing this mod to my 22 LRST
Yes . I now have a mustache guard and forward controls
is mandatory to change the aire finger?
Just a thought....could you get the blacked out version, buy the chrome brake lever, have only it powder coated and then apply as needed?
Easier option - buy blacked out version and buy a black brake pedal from Harley. There are a few models / designs
Hey Sandy, how much would you say this conversion cost all in on parts?
$800 approx
Sandy where did you get the black cap to cover the shifter hole on the primary cover.
Part of the chrome kit - I spray painted it !
How did you stop the oil from coming out of the inside primary?
What is the part number on the Forward control kit u just did.
I need to do this also
Video description has it
@@HOLYSHIFT
Got it thanks
What part number did you use for the linkage?
Never mind found it.
Part# 33600259
Such a great video man
Great video, I'm doing the same thing. Where did you find the little plug to fill the hole where the old mid control gear shifter was?
It came with the mid control kit from Harley.
@@HOLYSHIFT bummer, my kit didn't come with one. Thanks for the reply
Sweet giveaway Sandy I’m in!!!
Are these aluminum or steel? I literally buy everything you put on your bike lol love your bike but I have just the 2022 low rider s not the st
I'm not sure ...I believe they're steel. Harley part ...
Where do you get the plug for the primary ??
It's part of the kit of the forward controls
Hi Bro, very nice and important Vid. I have the same problem with the foreward control on my new LR s 117. Cannot use the back break without extreme Yoga with my legs. Is the crome one really better? I miss the picture of your new break Position and foot Position. If you have one, please post it. My HD Dealer ordered the break from the Heritage and from the Breakout. Next week we will try, what fits better. Kind regards from Germany. Stefan
Hey buddy- no Yoga needed with the new brake pedal ! 😆 there’s a flare to the right and the rubber cover that sticks out - so it’s s much easier to hit the brakes . The air intake is very cool but it limits my legs to hug the fuel tank . I might be swapping it for something smaller
@holyshift how does the intake feel against the leg of you don’t mind ?
Nice mod, Sandy. 👍
Nice mod Sandy. The ST is a great looking bike. How tall are you? My son has been riding a Road King for a few years. Took an ST for a demo ride at Laconia and he loved the bike but he’s all of 6 ft 4 and needs max leg stretch.
5’9” short
@@HOLYSHIFT Thanks! I think it’s a necessary mod if he gets an ST but I think he may be a little long for the bike.
Alarm Cruise control ABS USB port no tools adjustable shock you got a Sport Glide with a better fairing. 😆
WOO-HOO! Thank you.
Do you have the torque specs?
Free the leg, break the spine
the is for a touring model
How long did it take you to remove and install the forward controls?
1 hour about ….
What's the part # on the chrome set
How in the hell did you find the forward kit? i have had one on order since February!
Harley website! buy the Chrome one.
Do you need a plug for the inside of the primary case?
No
No