new to the meta quest family, so this video helped me out allot. Thanks a million brother. Now on a quest to find a store which sells the KKCOBVR in the Netherlands. Seems we are stuck with m2 head straps only over here. Really strange.
You are not being harsh on BOBOVR at all. Furthermore - the battery LED on the side is useless compared to the dots on the batteries from the older batteries - which was infinitely more useful. I might go new one you just recommended, if available.
I agree, at least on the BOBOVR vs KKCOBVR. I paid £42 for the M3 Pro and was disappointed with the battery. It would have cost me another £26.99 for a second battery, whereas the KKCOBVR cost me £35.42 ($42.99) and I already have one of their batteries for my Pico 4. I ran it for almost 2 hours last night, after which the battery was down to 2 lights, but the Quest 3 was still at 100%, which is damn good. With the M3 Pro, I could see the Quest's internal battery draining after as little as 15 minutes, even when all I was doing was updates and a little browsing. The S3 at £81 was a non-starter. If I wanted a fan, I could buy the KKCOBVR one in addition and it would still be cheaper than the S3 and not add drain to the battery.
I kind of agree about the Q3 Pro especially about backward compatibility with the B2 batteries. However at the moment especially in Australia being very hot and humid in summer a fan is actually essential because it gets very hot, sweaty and uncomfortable to play and the Quest 3 lenses constantly fog up due to humidity so I can’t see anything( get very annoying). One thing I miss about the Quest 2 is the BOBO VR F2 fan that I could use with the M2 Pro solved the issue with fog and uncomfortable heat. Seeing that being in the UK 🇬🇧 where it is colder climate a fan won’t be needed or even wanted but for me the BOBO VR S3 Pro is a very welcome and needed accessory due to the hot weather and terrible humidity. BTW the fan noise IMHO isn’t really an issue if using headphones with my Quest as I won’t be able to hear the fan with headphones in my ears. So for me I chose to buy the S3 Pro instead because I’m in desperate need of a fan like I used on my Quest 2.
there is that fan with reversible flow (X3 ACF for Q3). good to take humidity out without drying your eyes also, doesnt look like S3 pro will give you much. it doesnt ventilate inside the mask, just your forehead. pretty underwhelming stuff looks like
Great content. In terms of the batteries on the bobovr, worth noting that the new batteries charge at 30W per battery on their charging stand so you can charge them from 5% to 80% in an hour and to 100% in 1.5 hours. You can also charge up to 3 batteries at the same time. Not sure, but maybe the 30 watt charging is what necessitated the move to a new battery. Definitely glad you mentioned the backward compatibility but I didn't buy a previous version so I don't have that axe to grind. Planning on trying a two/three straps, but after a week with the bobovr s3 I'm impressed. Very comfortable and the fast charging 10,000mAh batteries make me think it's going to be a keeper. At first I thought it was too heavy, but after pulling the back of the strap lower on the back of my head I realized how it was supposed to fit and it was much lighter... I'd like to try the KKCOBVR though, looks like a very cost effective solution, but the bobovr s3 really feels premium.
Finally someone who hasn't been bought by bobo. I have both headstraps, The bobo S3, The KKCobb pro and Hands down The KKcobb pro wins. I don't know what everyone's talking about when they say bobo is the best, no it is not. With the kkcob pro I can get my eyes positioned perfectly. Not everyone's eyes are going to be the same distance, 1 eye might come out further than the other. The KKCobb pro Headstrap Is much lighter also.
Don't pay For 1 day shipping If you order the KK Cobb VR Headstrap Because I pay for 3 day Delivery and it came the next day. It'll save you money And it will be there just as quick
Kiwi's battery strap isn't on this list but that was my choice, as Kiwi has consistently been a good VR accessory brand for me, and it has been phenomenal. Charges the Q3 while I'm using it and adds at least a couple of hours of battery life. I was wary about going for the elite strap design over the halo, like was on my Q2, but for movement intensive games it definitely feels more secure on my face than the halo did (could also be due to the lighter weight of the Q3, or a placebo effect, lol).
yep, i see many recommend Kiwi for high intencity games, and just today i wanted to get it, but.. i see like this KK almost tooks best from both bobo and kiwi worlds. so i'm probably going for it now
@@coolertuep right. would be most correct to say "current" tho. and i think "bigger" was the right word. smaller batteries would just get really hot and most probably burn if you drain them at 2.5A
Since I'm new to Meta I was after a headstrap for my new Q3. I was told the Kiwi and Aubika were the current best to get in the UK but just as I was about to pull the trigger BoboVR announced the S3 Pro! Since I didn't have any Bobo products but had been told my GT that they were the best I decided to get the S3 Pro. I agree the fan is not necessary but it can be turned off. The battery life is great tho and the strap is super comfy. I actually got it direct from Bobo for £68!!! But it did take about 2 weeks to come from China.
I bought the m3 pro and it's shit. It still has the battery charging sounds that are very annoying. Why is this crap still on the market? And its 70 euro which is wildly expensive. Then the s3 pro, 115 euro wtf. Also customer service is non existing with bobo. Im going with the KC whatever
Loser. Bobovr’s great. What customer service you looking for? Havent had an issue since the M2 and now have the s3, c3, charging dock and 2 extra batteries. Literally all day battery life for the quest 3 even if it’s on the whole day. Literally no other brand/ecosystem can boast that. You’re just a Brokie. Get your money up brokie
Hello Mac, awesome review and comparison video. I have been using the Meta Quest elite battery strap and have found it t be pretty comfortable, but I only get about 2 hours out of them. I am expecting delivery of my new BoboVR S3 strap with the 10,000 mah battery today. I think you are being a bit harsh on Bobo VR for trying to make a better product for a better headset. I would not expect to use the same steering wheels on my Fanatec wheel base if i decided to switch to another wheel manufacturer. I think BoboVR's choice to not be backwards compatible with the M2 headstrap (which I also own for my Quest 2) probably could not be avoided. Just my 2 cents! Thanks
Big Mac……. Did u test the bobo with the fan on to get the battery numbers? I got the kkcob because of u :) but still interested to know if u tested bobo with fan on or off?
I have the Bobo m3 and I agree it feels very rushed not nearly as polished as their last few products. Which is a shame because I also have several extra batteries laying around so I don’t want to upgrade to the m3 pro. I may try that kkcobvr q3
New to VR and actually have my first headset arriving tomorrow, a Quest 3. I will be using this pretty much exclusively for sit down flight and racing sims utilizing a link cable to my PC. I currently am very pleased with my dac/amp full headphone sound and mike solution and plan on continuing to use it for my gaming. Looking at the available aftermarket vr headset headband/battery offerings for the quest 3 it appears that the BoboVR s3 Pro and the way it sits on the head and with the higher height of the side straps over the ears that this may be the best choice for combining the vr headset comfort and fit w/external battery with a full size headphone solution. Do you agree with that assessment?
I use my Sony Pulse Elite headset with my KKCOBVR Q3 Pro. It is a very similar strap to the BoboVR S3 Pro, so yes, it would be okay 👍 However, the KKCOBVR is half the price of the BoboVR so consider that.
@@MacInVR, I just ordered the KKCOBVR Q3 PRO as per your recommendation for my new quest 3. Amazon had an $8 off coupon on it so made the choice even easier. Thanks for your help and reply, and you earned a new subscriber!
Thanks for the review. I had been debating back and forth what strap to get. This video make it an easy choice. Just ordered the KKCOBVR Q3 Pro on Amazon and it says it will be here Monday. So looks like it's not sold out in the US. So next step is a case, any reccomend action on a case to fit with this strap?
Crazy how none of Bobo's batteries are compatible including the M3. Do you notice the fan on the S3 pro at all? I don't know how effective it'd be as most of your face and forehead is covered. AMVR's neck battery only lasts me an hour on Quest3 as it's intended for Quest2, but Zyber's neck battery lasts a lot longer as it's for Quest3.
thanks for the info, will definitely consider the q3 pro. i just have a question since you have a hands on experience with the straps. are you able to use headphones with the q3 pro with it still being comfortable?
@@MacInVR I also have a new battery cable with a filter, but I still hear a little buzzing in the speakers above 70%, I don't know how loud it was with the old one because I got it with the new one
Wow. A lot of anger for batteries and a fan. I actually have 6 of the old batteries and I'm not pissed. They are trash on the new headset. I had the bobo fan, and it was awesome during the summer. If you sit on your ass and play, then I understand. Not everyone is a lazy vr player. I get sweaty.
I'm curious. I don't currently use a battery strap for my Quest 3, but I do use a Kiwi Designs comfort strap (the Quest 2 strap with a Kiwi adapter,) and I know Kiwi has a battery strap which they claim is the best one. Have you tried the Kiwi strap?
Hey Mac.. I notice your go to headset is the kkcob.. is it more comfortable than the m3 pro? I got the m3 pro didn’t like comfort. But finally found a sweet spot and it’s great now.. I bought a kkcob hoping it’s a bit nicer?
I thought the M3 was okay for comfort, that wasn't the problem. I prefer the KKCOBVR because it's half the price and comfort is on a par with the M3/S3. Plus it has a really cool feature where you can move the whole headset in & out (like PSVR2).
Yea the bovo m3 sucked hated the feel and constantly adjusting it and poor battery life i have the bovo m2 pro for quest two battery always lasted but it seems quest 3 only last like 30 mins and its done so i got the kiwi with the charging stand
They've redesigned the cable and added an impedance booster, which eliminates the buzzing. It's not loud anyway, and you don't notice when playing, but all new Q3's will have the booster installed 😉
@@anthonyclaughan5620 I also have a new battery cable with a filter, but I still hear a little buzzing in the speakers above 70%, I don't know how loud it was with the old one because I got it with the new one
@@1791jacek Get in touch with them i did they are sending out a new back rest and cable which should stop it :) But to be honest once im playing i don't hear it ;)
how is the comfort between the bobvr vs the kkcobvr since i will have to either get the new bobovr or any kkcobvr the backwards compatibility of the kkco really does not matter to me and while it sucks and i have 6 between all the accessories they sent batteries with for bobo gonna new new ones no matter which direction i go
@@EvilkingusI will if they make the better strap but since he is the only person so far that has used both i wanted to get a good comparison of the product not its price or its practices.
@@justanotherdave4835 I get your point, which is fair. I myself can get so pissed of at business practices, that I would support the more customer-friendly choice (if caveats is within reason). Just having no fan, half price, no ridiculous battery-level-led is enough for me.
Taking away some of the bad decisions, they are both very close in comfort BUT the KKCOBVR has that ratchet which let's you adjust how much pressure is on your face. That is the main reason I picked the KKCOBVR 😉
@@Evilkingus yep that is why did not presume to speak for you nor insinuate that you should follow my thoughts, i wanted to know which was more comfortable and that was the only answer i was looking for thanks
I own the S3.... I love the fan for Les Mills body combat and nice for a gentle breeze it other games.
Also doesn't drain the battery much.
Love it
I wasn't sure to include whether the fan drained the battery, thought it might skew the results. Thanks for the information 🙂
Thanks Mac. 👍🏻
new to the meta quest family, so this video helped me out allot. Thanks a million brother. Now on a quest to find a store which sells the KKCOBVR in the Netherlands. Seems we are stuck with m2 head straps only over here. Really strange.
You are not being harsh on BOBOVR at all. Furthermore - the battery LED on the side is useless compared to the dots on the batteries from the older batteries - which was infinitely more useful. I might go new one you just recommended, if available.
Interesting. Thanks for the review, Mac!
I agree, at least on the BOBOVR vs KKCOBVR. I paid £42 for the M3 Pro and was disappointed with the battery. It would have cost me another £26.99 for a second battery, whereas the KKCOBVR cost me £35.42 ($42.99) and I already have one of their batteries for my Pico 4. I ran it for almost 2 hours last night, after which the battery was down to 2 lights, but the Quest 3 was still at 100%, which is damn good. With the M3 Pro, I could see the Quest's internal battery draining after as little as 15 minutes, even when all I was doing was updates and a little browsing. The S3 at £81 was a non-starter. If I wanted a fan, I could buy the KKCOBVR one in addition and it would still be cheaper than the S3 and not add drain to the battery.
I kind of agree about the Q3 Pro especially about backward compatibility with the B2 batteries. However at the moment especially in Australia being very hot and humid in summer a fan is actually essential because it gets very hot, sweaty and uncomfortable to play and the Quest 3 lenses constantly fog up due to humidity so I can’t see anything( get very annoying). One thing I miss about the Quest 2 is the BOBO VR F2 fan that I could use with the M2 Pro solved the issue with fog and uncomfortable heat. Seeing that being in the UK 🇬🇧 where it is colder climate a fan won’t be needed or even wanted but for me the BOBO VR S3 Pro is a very welcome and needed accessory due to the hot weather and terrible humidity. BTW the fan noise IMHO isn’t really an issue if using headphones with my Quest as I won’t be able to hear the fan with headphones in my ears. So for me I chose to buy the S3 Pro instead because I’m in desperate need of a fan like I used on my Quest 2.
there is that fan with reversible flow (X3 ACF for Q3). good to take humidity out without drying your eyes
also, doesnt look like S3 pro will give you much. it doesnt ventilate inside the mask, just your forehead. pretty underwhelming stuff looks like
Great content. In terms of the batteries on the bobovr, worth noting that the new batteries charge at 30W per battery on their charging stand so you can charge them from 5% to 80% in an hour and to 100% in 1.5 hours. You can also charge up to 3 batteries at the same time. Not sure, but maybe the 30 watt charging is what necessitated the move to a new battery. Definitely glad you mentioned the backward compatibility but I didn't buy a previous version so I don't have that axe to grind.
Planning on trying a two/three straps, but after a week with the bobovr s3 I'm impressed. Very comfortable and the fast charging 10,000mAh batteries make me think it's going to be a keeper. At first I thought it was too heavy, but after pulling the back of the strap lower on the back of my head I realized how it was supposed to fit and it was much lighter... I'd like to try the KKCOBVR though, looks like a very cost effective solution, but the bobovr s3 really feels premium.
Finally someone who hasn't been bought by bobo. I have both headstraps, The bobo S3, The KKCobb pro and Hands down The KKcobb pro wins. I don't know what everyone's talking about when they say bobo is the best, no it is not. With the kkcob pro I can get my eyes positioned perfectly. Not everyone's eyes are going to be the same distance, 1 eye might come out further than the other. The KKCobb pro Headstrap Is much lighter also.
have you ever tryed Kiwi?
altho, i see how KK kinda wins in every way, as it take the best features from both bobo and Kiwi worlds
twice cheaper and can be lfited up instead of the fan, yeah easy decision
Don't pay For 1 day shipping If you order the KK Cobb VR Headstrap Because I pay for 3 day Delivery and it came the next day. It'll save you money And it will be there just as quick
Good tip, thanks 😊
Kiwi's battery strap isn't on this list but that was my choice, as Kiwi has consistently been a good VR accessory brand for me, and it has been phenomenal. Charges the Q3 while I'm using it and adds at least a couple of hours of battery life. I was wary about going for the elite strap design over the halo, like was on my Q2, but for movement intensive games it definitely feels more secure on my face than the halo did (could also be due to the lighter weight of the Q3, or a placebo effect, lol).
yep, i see many recommend Kiwi for high intencity games, and just today i wanted to get it, but.. i see like this KK almost tooks best from both bobo and kiwi worlds. so i'm probably going for it now
It's crazy the battery size for all that is smaller than the battery in most flagship phones
Flagship phones need way less wattage
@@coolertuep right. would be most correct to say "current" tho. and i think "bigger" was the right word.
smaller batteries would just get really hot and most probably burn if you drain them at 2.5A
Since I'm new to Meta I was after a headstrap for my new Q3. I was told the Kiwi and Aubika were the current best to get in the UK but just as I was about to pull the trigger BoboVR announced the S3 Pro!
Since I didn't have any Bobo products but had been told my GT that they were the best I decided to get the S3 Pro.
I agree the fan is not necessary but it can be turned off. The battery life is great tho and the strap is super comfy.
I actually got it direct from Bobo for £68!!! But it did take about 2 weeks to come from China.
Great video and review. I always knew you loved a strap......O.. never mind.
Cheeky!
I have a Kiwi with an external pack just velcrod on, it's awesome
Any buzzing, high pitch noise on any of those you have tested? I heard the M3 was noisy? Great video comparison. Thanks!
No buzzing that I can remember on the BoboVR M3 or S3, KKCOBVR has a slight buzz but you don't notice when in-game 😉
@@MacInVR thx!
Have the bobo M2 Pro for my Quest 2 but bought the Aubika 8000mah strap for the Quest 3; £60 no regrets
I bought the m3 pro and it's shit. It still has the battery charging sounds that are very annoying. Why is this crap still on the market? And its 70 euro which is wildly expensive. Then the s3 pro, 115 euro wtf. Also customer service is non existing with bobo. Im going with the KC whatever
Loser. Bobovr’s great. What customer service you looking for? Havent had an issue since the M2 and now have the s3, c3, charging dock and 2 extra batteries. Literally all day battery life for the quest 3 even if it’s on the whole day. Literally no other brand/ecosystem can boast that. You’re just a Brokie. Get your money up brokie
Hello Mac, awesome review and comparison video. I have been using the Meta Quest elite battery strap and have found it t be pretty comfortable, but I only get about 2 hours out of them. I am expecting delivery of my new BoboVR S3 strap with the 10,000 mah battery today. I think you are being a bit harsh on Bobo VR for trying to make a better product for a better headset. I would not expect to use the same steering wheels on my Fanatec wheel base if i decided to switch to another wheel manufacturer. I think BoboVR's choice to not be backwards compatible with the M2 headstrap (which I also own for my Quest 2) probably could not be avoided. Just my 2 cents! Thanks
Fair point, but when you have 4 batteries, a charging dock & a Q2 M2 & Pico 4 strap, it's annoying that it's not compatible 🙄
Big Mac……. Did u test the bobo with the fan on to get the battery numbers? I got the kkcob because of u :) but still interested to know if u tested bobo with fan on or off?
I didn't test it with the fan on, I didn't like it 😕
@@MacInVRthank u Mac!!
I have the Bobo m3 and I agree it feels very rushed not nearly as polished as their last few products. Which is a shame because I also have several extra batteries laying around so I don’t want to upgrade to the m3 pro. I may try that kkcobvr q3
New to VR and actually have my first headset arriving tomorrow, a Quest 3.
I will be using this pretty much exclusively for sit down flight and racing sims utilizing a link cable to my PC.
I currently am very pleased with my dac/amp full headphone sound and mike solution and plan on continuing to use it for my gaming.
Looking at the available aftermarket vr headset headband/battery offerings for the quest 3 it appears that the BoboVR s3 Pro and the way it sits on the head and with the higher height of the side straps over the ears that this may be the best choice for combining the vr headset comfort and fit w/external battery with a full size headphone solution.
Do you agree with that assessment?
I use my Sony Pulse Elite headset with my KKCOBVR Q3 Pro. It is a very similar strap to the BoboVR S3 Pro, so yes, it would be okay 👍
However, the KKCOBVR is half the price of the BoboVR so consider that.
@@MacInVR, I just ordered the KKCOBVR Q3 PRO as per your recommendation for my new quest 3.
Amazon had an $8 off coupon on it so made the choice even easier.
Thanks for your help and reply, and you earned a new subscriber!
Thanks for the review. I had been debating back and forth what strap to get. This video make it an easy choice. Just ordered the KKCOBVR Q3 Pro on Amazon and it says it will be here Monday. So looks like it's not sold out in the US.
So next step is a case, any reccomend action on a case to fit with this strap?
I don't have any insight there mate, I don't have any Q3 cases currently (ton of head straps though) 😂
What about GOMRVR? The KKCOBVR guys dont ship to my country.
I've never heard of that company, sorry 😞
Crazy how none of Bobo's batteries are compatible including the M3. Do you notice the fan on the S3 pro at all? I don't know how effective it'd be as most of your face and forehead is covered. AMVR's neck battery only lasts me an hour on Quest3 as it's intended for Quest2, but Zyber's neck battery lasts a lot longer as it's for Quest3.
It makes my rather expansive forehead cold and makes my eyelashes flutter on 100%
thanks for the info, will definitely consider the q3 pro. i just have a question since you have a hands on experience with the straps. are you able to use headphones with the q3 pro with it still being comfortable?
I have used Steel Series Arctis 7P+ & am currently using Sony Pulse Elite, so yes 😉
@@MacInVR thanks for the response, also did they fix the buzzing sound with the battery i've seen in the amazon reviews?
All new Q3's have an impedance booster that stops that, I've been sent the upgrade and can report it works flawlessly 😉
@@MacInVR I also have a new battery cable with a filter, but I still hear a little buzzing in the speakers above 70%, I don't know how loud it was with the old one because I got it with the new one
Wow. A lot of anger for batteries and a fan. I actually have 6 of the old batteries and I'm not pissed. They are trash on the new headset. I had the bobo fan, and it was awesome during the summer. If you sit on your ass and play, then I understand. Not everyone is a lazy vr player. I get sweaty.
I never sit unless I'm sim-racing, I prefer to move naturally (though I am old) 😂
is there any battery pack where i can still use usb-debugging connected to PC while also having a battery?
I'm curious. I don't currently use a battery strap for my Quest 3, but I do use a Kiwi Designs comfort strap (the Quest 2 strap with a Kiwi adapter,) and I know Kiwi has a battery strap which they claim is the best one. Have you tried the Kiwi strap?
I asked but they didn't send me one, sorry 🙄
batter no DoF than fake DoF that works bad IMO..
Excellent review comparison Mac. I have the AMVR neck strap for my Quest 3 Pro.
Neck battery or strap battery. I can't decide!
Strap 😉
Hey Mac.. I notice your go to headset is the kkcob.. is it more comfortable than the m3 pro? I got the m3 pro didn’t like comfort. But finally found a sweet spot and it’s great now.. I bought a kkcob hoping it’s a bit nicer?
I thought the M3 was okay for comfort, that wasn't the problem. I prefer the KKCOBVR because it's half the price and comfort is on a par with the M3/S3.
Plus it has a really cool feature where you can move the whole headset in & out (like PSVR2).
@@MacInVR thanks Mac
Yea the bovo m3 sucked hated the feel and constantly adjusting it and poor battery life i have the bovo m2 pro for quest two battery always lasted but it seems quest 3 only last like 30 mins and its done so i got the kiwi with the charging stand
I was looking at the KKCOB VR Q3 Pro but read the battery has a loud buzzing which is off putting.
They've redesigned the cable and added an impedance booster, which eliminates the buzzing.
It's not loud anyway, and you don't notice when playing, but all new Q3's will have the booster installed 😉
@@MacInVR Ok good to know i mean for the price you cant go wrong. Thanks for the reply :)
@@anthonyclaughan5620 I also have a new battery cable with a filter, but I still hear a little buzzing in the speakers above 70%, I don't know how loud it was with the old one because I got it with the new one
@@1791jacek Get in touch with them i did they are sending out a new back rest and cable which should stop it :) But to be honest once im playing i don't hear it ;)
but I must add that the sound is quiet and it doesn't bother me, you can only hear it in the menu when you are not playing and I recommend kkcobvr
how is the comfort between the bobvr vs the kkcobvr since i will have to either get the new bobovr or any kkcobvr the backwards compatibility of the kkco really does not matter to me and while it sucks and i have 6 between all the accessories they sent batteries with for bobo gonna new new ones no matter which direction i go
Please support KKCOBVR. They made the better decision with backwards compatibility, no fan and a lower price. BoboVR just got greedy and stupid.
@@EvilkingusI will if they make the better strap but since he is the only person so far that has used both i wanted to get a good comparison of the product not its price or its practices.
@@justanotherdave4835 I get your point, which is fair. I myself can get so pissed of at business practices, that I would support the more customer-friendly choice (if caveats is within reason). Just having no fan, half price, no ridiculous battery-level-led is enough for me.
Taking away some of the bad decisions, they are both very close in comfort BUT the KKCOBVR has that ratchet which let's you adjust how much pressure is on your face.
That is the main reason I picked the KKCOBVR 😉
@@Evilkingus yep that is why did not presume to speak for you nor insinuate that you should follow my thoughts, i wanted to know which was more comfortable and that was the only answer i was looking for thanks