hes the only two time winner and has been in what 4 finals or something id like to see him come back and win a 3rd time but idk if he will luan has a chance to tie him at 2 finals wins this year
Thank you so much for all of the hard work you put into these videos. I am so appreciative of the how deeply you've distilled these competitions. Your attention to detail is impeccable.
at my age. if me and my boys played skate, it would be 254 attempts, with 1.84 trick consistency. .. probably go though a 12 pack before landing a single trick :)
can you please do a video on pj ladd v moose in season 6?? moose only losing to inward variations, that is my favorite match ever 😭 the defense was insane
I think the end should include something like “and that’s gonna do it for this video” or just some way to wrap it up. Endings just feel kinda sudden. Great work as always
If you're into gaming, I think that would be a good way to grow your channel more. There is a lot of data already there (K/D, wins, score pet minute) you can maybe use that to determine who's most likely to win, who is the true best (more focus on SPM and not overall score) putting things into consideration such as teammates, gun power and game modes and all the good stuff. The gaming scene seems to rely more on luck so this could be fun
I think it's a shame we never got to see Peter Ramondetta come back after BATB IV, he did well in BATB 2 only losing to Cory Kennedy who at the time was tearing it up. Then, lost to Mike Mo is a real close game.
My man DD. I'm a huge fan & I love all your skate-related videos. You ought have waaaay more subs. Great voice & tone also. You have serious structure in your speech. No youtuber does that as top-notch as you do. Gotta say I have criticism for you in how you term some tricks. I've been putting this off. A hardflip is not a FS/BS trick. It's reverted after the flip. And for the inward varial heelflips you speak of shane/sewa/luan etc doing the proper term is nollie/fakie big inward heelflip. *There is no such thing as a half cab varial/inward heelflip.* That trick is not FS/BS at all. It doesn't apply to the above tricks. Please take the criticisms for what they are.
I can agree that it's correct to call them nollie/fakie bigspin inward heelflips, but why can't you also call them halfcab/nollie fs inward heels? Your body is turning the same way as if you did a halfcab heelflip or nollie fs heelflip, but adding an extra 180 spin hence inward (bs shuv + heelflip).
@@dumbdata34 it's simple. For the same reason there is no such thing as a BS 360 flip or FS lazerflip. Same logic applies to all hardflips/varial flips & heels. Also no such thing as a big hardflip of any sort. For that I sometimes feel like the people naming the tricks in BATB could be some the same ones calling Tampa contests. They have no business naming the tricks. Tell me if you have any merch anything like that. I wanna get some & support you.
I'm surprised not seeing here Cody Cepeda vs Chris Joslin game , round 2 season 11, it was really epic! Remember the face of Chirs when he suddenly run out of his ideas for tricks and had to think a bit.
Hey aside from Shane O'Neill what other skaters based on their past tricks completed could be a BATB champ? Thanks for the video regardless of the BATB timetable...
Amazing videos I can tell you work hard on these and you are truly passionate about skateboarding I'd love to see some stuff on transition skating like where you break down people's parts like u did ryan decenzo
you gotta do a deep dive into the spencer barton v jamie griffin match . unreal trick selection , spencer had to be his own ref cause the refs wouldn't actually call him out on full heel touches , both skaters performed beautifully
You should incorporate the es games of skate and some of the other professional games it’s a lot of the same people and good games also the Davis torgerson vs Shane game is sick af
How about an elo rating System, where both players and Tricks have an elo rating. Each time a Trick is attempted, the elo rating getd updated as if the Player "competes " against the Trick.
I feel like this was mentioned in a different video but i cant quite remember. Is there a trick that has only ever been attempted but never landed in berrics history?
Love the vids, but tbf the fast forwarding is hard on the eyes Data! Maybe just include more notable turns (I get it tho, you're sort of a perfectionist and all-inclusive in your artwork :)
PJ v Moose season 6 battle was long at 130 turns, but average trick difficulty was above 70%, and margin of victory wasn't as tight as the harder battles, with PJ only getting 2 letters
I just realized at 9.26 that there's nothing in the official rules against hand touches... I know It's the most obvious thing in the world but if malto's manual shit is a thing because of a loophole hand touching could become one too lol
Margin of victory was only one letter in season 2 championship, and total turns was on the relatively longer side at 70, but average trick difficulty was above 70%, which is why it's not considered one of the harder battles compared to those that had sub 70% trick difficulty rates
When stating the amount of turns, is this total turns between each player? Or turns per player? For example, 40 turns. Is that 40 turns total? Or 40 turns per player?
Lol, ladd was coming out of his prime for these and still dominated everyone, he was in 4 finals in a row, winning 2 of those back to back. He won of would batb 1 also if the ref's were more legit, benny fairfax was a total fluke, and ended up just getting wrecked the last match it was a huge let down. Everyone was waiting for Ladd vs mike mo. The time Prod beat Pj in the championships was literally the first time prod has beaten pj ever, in his entire life and theyd played hundreds of times, they used to be teammates on Es, ladd and prod came up together. The morgan smith battle was weird, at the time morgan smith was a newcomer and i feel like ladd let him win or something so he could shine, i know morgan stated his favorite skater was pj and is a huge pj fan, idk but morgan smith didnt really show his face much after, not into his style either. Seeing ladd wreck Nikes little prodigy Shane Oneil was fucking great. Luann cant match pj at this point, unless he gets in 4 finals in 4 years, and wins 2 of those ina row, with both others runner ups. Ladd showed alot of the shane oneil and new skater fanboys wich there was tons of at the time, that they aint really shit, and the real kings arent finished. Idk what lads deal is these days but, hes still the most consistant flatground skater, and had arguably the best style at onepoint. Watch how hes landing his tricks in the Ladd vs Reynolds match, all i gotta say is if ur a reynolds fan ur gunna cringe lmao. Ladd was slicker the slick landing aces back to back to back.
PJ Ladd is still one of the 🐐's, hope to see him back in there in 2032 when the next BATB goes down...
hes the only two time winner and has been in what 4 finals or something id like to see him come back and win a 3rd time but idk if he will luan has a chance to tie him at 2 finals wins this year
Defended against triple flip TWICE against Billy Marks and then Moose… defensive 🐐 for sure
Thank you so much for all of the hard work you put into these videos. I am so appreciative of the how deeply you've distilled these competitions. Your attention to detail is impeccable.
dude, seconds like 8:20 is what show how your work is great, we would never know that this single trick is a moment in skate history. thx dude
Shane’s nollie tre is a masterpiece
Absolutely gnarly matches especially those top 3. Must feel good to be in such an unforgettable match
at my age. if me and my boys played skate, it would be 254 attempts, with 1.84 trick consistency. .. probably go though a 12 pack before landing a single trick :)
CC showing up twice! pretty crazy for a non "pro"
11:34 _loophole identified_ 😂
12:01: It's interesting that technically no rule prohibits a repeated trick. Seems to be more of an etiquette that everyone follows..
Mike Mo and Crob pointed that out before and actually (in a fun way rather than as a means of beating the other) repeated tricks
can you please do a video on pj ladd v moose in season 6?? moose only losing to inward variations, that is my favorite match ever 😭 the defense was insane
I remember the Koston vs Dyrdek battle being the shortest match ever
I think the end should include something like “and that’s gonna do it for this video” or just some way to wrap it up. Endings just feel kinda sudden. Great work as always
that was really useless, interesting, and dumb. Thank you for your work.
I just remembered the Garrett Ginner vs. Roy Purdy Match in Round 1 BATB 12. It was so bad and still it seems there are worse matches. Whoa.
i know it was unsanctioned but the p rod vs carlos ribeiro was one of the best games i’ve ever seen. and very entertaining.
If you're into gaming, I think that would be a good way to grow your channel more. There is a lot of data already there (K/D, wins, score pet minute) you can maybe use that to determine who's most likely to win, who is the true best (more focus on SPM and not overall score) putting things into consideration such as teammates, gun power and game modes and all the good stuff. The gaming scene seems to rely more on luck so this could be fun
I think it's a shame we never got to see Peter Ramondetta come back after BATB IV, he did well in BATB 2 only losing to Cory Kennedy who at the time was tearing it up. Then, lost to Mike Mo is a real close game.
My man DD. I'm a huge fan & I love all your skate-related videos. You ought have waaaay more subs. Great voice & tone also. You have serious structure in your speech. No youtuber does that as top-notch as you do.
Gotta say I have criticism for you in how you term some tricks. I've been putting this off. A hardflip is not a FS/BS trick. It's reverted after the flip. And for the inward varial heelflips you speak of shane/sewa/luan etc doing the proper term is nollie/fakie big inward heelflip. *There is no such thing as a half cab varial/inward heelflip.* That trick is not FS/BS at all. It doesn't apply to the above tricks. Please take the criticisms for what they are.
I can agree that it's correct to call them nollie/fakie bigspin inward heelflips, but why can't you also call them halfcab/nollie fs inward heels? Your body is turning the same way as if you did a halfcab heelflip or nollie fs heelflip, but adding an extra 180 spin hence inward (bs shuv + heelflip).
@@dumbdata34 it's simple. For the same reason there is no such thing as a BS 360 flip or FS lazerflip. Same logic applies to all hardflips/varial flips & heels. Also no such thing as a big hardflip of any sort. For that I sometimes feel like the people naming the tricks in BATB could be some the same ones calling Tampa contests. They have no business naming the tricks.
Tell me if you have any merch anything like that. I wanna get some & support you.
I'm surprised not seeing here Cody Cepeda vs Chris Joslin game , round 2 season 11, it was really epic! Remember the face of Chirs when he suddenly run out of his ideas for tricks and had to think a bit.
that was a hard battle, but the margin of victory wasn't as tight as the harder ones. Joslin only got K from Cody
@@dumbdata34 yeah, thanks for the answer!
lol Berra looks like such a clown in the ref outfit
Jerry is just that good.
Oooof that nollie tre.. 8:24
May I know the avg. trick consistency for PJ vs Moose in BATB6?
Hey aside from Shane O'Neill what other skaters based on their past tricks completed could be a BATB champ?
Thanks for the video regardless of the BATB timetable...
Amazing videos I can tell you work hard on these and you are truly passionate about skateboarding I'd love to see some stuff on transition skating like where you break down people's parts like u did ryan decenzo
All the talk is surreal ... Seriously
Babe, quick, Dumb Data just uploaded a video !!!
Why shifty flips are NBD in BATB? Are them legit?
PJ Ladd done lots of them back in the days in Wonderful Horrible Life
you gotta do a deep dive into the spencer barton v jamie griffin match . unreal trick selection , spencer had to be his own ref cause the refs wouldn't actually call him out on full heel touches , both skaters performed beautifully
Losing Mike-Mo to such a stupid injury is tragic. 😔
Man, you must be an excel god.
as always, i dont understand a single thing, still, it's worth watching.
NASA should hire you
Guess the stats dont lie, I always thought that number 1 was the best battle ever.
The only thing about Mike V missing those tricks "on purpose" is that it seems he purposely never wanted to progress beyond late 80s skating.
You should incorporate the es games of skate and some of the other professional games it’s a lot of the same people and good games also the Davis torgerson vs Shane game is sick af
How about an elo rating System, where both players and Tricks have an elo rating. Each time a Trick is attempted, the elo rating getd updated as if the Player "competes " against the Trick.
Jamie n jonny battle should b here
I didn't know Huggbee's had a skateboard themed channel.
(He's a youtuber and you sound like him)
Love dumbdata
Man was hoping to see Pj vs Moose
Rob dyrdeck vs Eric Koston
I feel like this was mentioned in a different video but i cant quite remember. Is there a trick that has only ever been attempted but never landed in berrics history?
which battle has the most turns during the opening roshambo before the starter is named
I think there's some subjectivity missed but yeah, this is an awesome list.
It’s only “Dumb Dara” after all, no room for subjectivity 😁
You don't miss a trick.
Love the vids, but tbf the fast forwarding is hard on the eyes Data! Maybe just include more notable turns (I get it tho, you're sort of a perfectionist and all-inclusive in your artwork :)
What about PJ VS Moose at season 6?
PJ v Moose season 6 battle was long at 130 turns, but average trick difficulty was above 70%, and margin of victory wasn't as tight as the harder battles, with PJ only getting 2 letters
@@dumbdata34 i love this battle, its has really crazy tricks on it
@@dumbdata34 wow, PJ did defend against the triple flip for 2nd time after the billy marks triple flip battle tho… PJ 🐐
Where did you find the PRod x Tom Asta battle?
vimeo.com/40914683
Every time you say "inward" my Brazilian ears hear "n word"
I just realized at 9.26 that there's nothing in the official rules against hand touches... I know It's the most obvious thing in the world but if malto's manual shit is a thing because of a loophole hand touching could become one too lol
Where the hell is Cole vs Rodriguez?? cmon that battle should be 2nd
Margin of victory was only one letter in season 2 championship, and total turns was on the relatively longer side at 70, but average trick difficulty was above 70%, which is why it's not considered one of the harder battles compared to those that had sub 70% trick difficulty rates
Dumb Data is actually not dumb at all
When stating the amount of turns, is this total turns between each player? Or turns per player? For example, 40 turns. Is that 40 turns total? Or 40 turns per player?
Total
Great video but did you boost the echo/reverb on your voice mix? You sound like you're in an auditorium mate.
Sick 👍
Sick what? He just uploaded like a min ago.
Lol, ladd was coming out of his prime for these and still dominated everyone, he was in 4 finals in a row, winning 2 of those back to back. He won of would batb 1 also if the ref's were more legit, benny fairfax was a total fluke, and ended up just getting wrecked the last match it was a huge let down. Everyone was waiting for Ladd vs mike mo. The time Prod beat Pj in the championships was literally the first time prod has beaten pj ever, in his entire life and theyd played hundreds of times, they used to be teammates on Es, ladd and prod came up together. The morgan smith battle was weird, at the time morgan smith was a newcomer and i feel like ladd let him win or something so he could shine, i know morgan stated his favorite skater was pj and is a huge pj fan, idk but morgan smith didnt really show his face much after, not into his style either. Seeing ladd wreck Nikes little prodigy Shane Oneil was fucking great. Luann cant match pj at this point, unless he gets in 4 finals in 4 years, and wins 2 of those ina row, with both others runner ups. Ladd showed alot of the shane oneil and new skater fanboys wich there was tons of at the time, that they aint really shit, and the real kings arent finished. Idk what lads deal is these days but, hes still the most consistant flatground skater, and had arguably the best style at onepoint. Watch how hes landing his tricks in the Ladd vs Reynolds match, all i gotta say is if ur a reynolds fan ur gunna cringe lmao. Ladd was slicker the slick landing aces back to back to back.
11:50
yeeeeessssssss
11:19 fart
The sound effects are not funny. Or the zooming in or replaying moments 5 times. It’s dumb data not dumb jokes
please break down more skate parts this berrics stuff is tiring in my humble opinion
It's funny cause Shane got a letter not landing a nollie kickflip vs Sewa as well!