I had four kids, live in Alaska, didn’t drive and if they forgot their lunch? I walked a mile to bring it to them, even in the snow at times. I also would call the lunch ladies and ask to provide a lunch if the weather was too bad and I’d be sure to send money to repay the next day. I also have Multiple Sclerosis, making walking difficult at times. But I truly loved my children and they knew I’d understand, it was accidental. This breaks me, in so many ways. There are many options, If a child forgets and the option of, too bad, shouldn’t be an option at all. You can’t possibly concentrate, when you’re hungry. Bet if they got bad grades, they’d have a harsh consequence, but also bet being hungry played a roll in it.
Exactly, she talks about the natural consequence, but then struggling in the classroom or having those physiological affects as a result too, is an indirect consequence which nobody should want to promote! You sound like an amazing mother ❤️
Clearly, you have genuine love. I question when Ruby stopped loving her children and why she had the littlest one when she didnt seem to even like her children. For the podcast business, I suppose. I remember learning exactly what you said. Children need to eat and it's very damaging to withhold food. Bless you for being a loving and probably Godly mother. She can talk about her religion all she wants, but talk is cheap and love is precious. I'm not sure when it became the work of a 6 year old to make her own lunch. If Ruby were a single mom working long hours, I could understand. You would make sacrifices for a child. She has rather sacrificed her children for something I just don't understand.
@@nadzach This is such a lovely comment, thank you for showing support to an absolute stranger. You make a good point about Ruby. I'm unsure if she fell out of love with her children. What scares me is the idea that Ruby may have seen these acts as a form of "tough love." Certainly at the end with the business Connexions, she made a lot of suggestions that a**se was actually loving the children which is worrying. What do you think?
Withholding food as a form of "punishment" is unconscionable. Ruby has, on numerous occasions, practically bragged about how she has deprived her children of breakfast, lunch, or dinner as a disciplinary measure. Unbelievable. :(
I know, it's absolutely shocking. There was one clip where she said "my children are absolutely starving...both they have to do their chores before they eat breakfast." Like she acknowledges their hunger and is deliberately restraining them from eating. Horrendous.
@@PetitePrimary As a former teacher, I know that for some children, school can be the only place where they feel safe. This is especially true for LGBTQ+ children living in very rigid, conservative households. The role of affirming, supportive teachers can be crucially important to those children's physical and emotional well-being. Teachers must not only plan their lessons, manage their classrooms, attend staff meetings, do trainings, submit grades and reports, etc., but they ALSO need to be alert and vigilant so as to pick up on behavioral cues from their students, and suss out the most appropriate response. And this is even if they're tired, cranky, stressed, etc. Teachers never get the respect they truly deserve. 💖
@@cosmicphoto05 You are absolutely correct! I mentioned this in another video actually because we might be the only safe and secure adult they have and that is something we can't take for granted in the day to day running of the classroom!
very important video to be made. I’ve known about the ruby franke situation for years and I’m so glad she’s finally getting justice for what she did to her children and hopefully the father gets justice too
Couldn't agree more! The clip I reacted to is old, however, I wanted to get this perspective out for people to hear. I had heard of her a few years back, but as her channel stopped, the coverage of her had dwindled until the arrest. Do you recommend any other clips I should react to? Thanks for watching and commenting!
I was completely flabbergasted to see this. I can’t believe that the child was being held responsible for their own lunch and the fact she didn’t want anyone stepping in to provide some lunch is pure cruelty! Horrendous behaviour from a parent. Wasn’t the first time I realised one of mine hadn’t taken theirs out of the house/car and I’ve gone back or school provided a bite to eat. She should be ashamed of herself that she would withhold food as punishment.
Fab! Also, I have worked previously as a MDSA and also monitor children/food at lunchtime. I have also expressed concerns about children and we also have to complete safeguarding training. Yes we would have waited for permission from a teacher or SLT to feed the child and then would of done everything possible to feed that child! my heart really hurt listening to what the mother said and remembering the child was only 6 years old! As you expressed, you would not know if the child actually ate breakfast and when after school the child would be able eat again, awful to think that the child could possible go over 24 hours without eating 🥺
I know, it's truly heartbreaking and to know she was one of the children that got taken to hospital for malnourishment upon Ruby's arrest - just goes to show if the school has suspicions it was clearly justified!!
At our school where I work here in Canada, we contact the parents if there's not enough lunch, if there are nuts in the food, if the lunch isn't healthy enough (i.e. one junior kindergartener was sent with only Hershey's kisses and Fruit Loops) but ESPECIALLY if the child has NO lunch. It is the expectation that if a lunch is forgotten, the parent drop by the school with food and if they are late we try to provide healthy snacks, the point being that a hungry child cannot learn. Oversights do happen on occasion, we understand - but so far none have been deliberate. Adults can fast if they choose, but kids are growing and it takes calories and nutrients to run those little bodies and developing brains. Starving a child NOW will result in health problems LATER. It's NOT a "privilege", it is a REQUIREMENT. Any parent who would do this on purpose would be reported to the school principal, the next step being a call to Children's Aid if not resolved - and seen by the teachers as problematic (and quietly referred to as a nut-job). In general, the parent is 100% responsible for providing their children with food. If they can't afford it, they can speak with a social worker for assistance. But if they CAN afford it, especially if they are MILLIONAIRES, NO EXCUSE is acceptable for not feeding their children. EVER. This is not, I repeat, NOT normal OR acceptable. Feeding your own children is JOB ONE if you are a Parent.
I can't add anything there. Think you're spot on and I agree with everything you said. Personal question for you though, do you find it demanding having to ring so often? And that's just for lunches, I assume you have to ring for many other things too. Thanks for watching and commenting ☺️
@@PetitePrimaryActually we don't seem to need to make calls often. it's usually the new parents of junior kindergartners and they usually learn better quickly. I don't think we've ever needed to call a seasoned parent of six with grown children. that's horrendous. (sorry for my long comment...this case hit teachers and school support staff hard) Cheers!
@@heatherallingham7120 oh well that's good then! No need to apologise, the fury in your comment and my 30 mins video shows our passion for the job and how serious we take keeping the children safe ❤️
This was really interesting from a teacher’s perspective on safeguarding! I would really enjoy more videos on similar issues relating to our role as a teacher. I completed my PGCE in 2022 and am currently doing supply teaching for one more year😀
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts on this as a teacher, all the way from the UK. I know in the US, teachers and people who work in any type of social services, are mandated reporters for CA and neglect.
@@pattyolson3842You're welcome, thank you for watching! We don't use the term mandated reporter in the UK, or very rarely at least, but we have a responsibility for safeguarding that is determined by government and school/trust policies. We have compulsory training from the government as well as frequent school training.
I worked in the school lunch room for yrs if a child forgot a lunch we never called the parent we gave the child a pb& j sandwich a piece of fruit and a milk. We made 10 sandwiches a day for "just in case", they didnt get the hot lunch of the day but they did get food. Also just an FYI Ruby & Keven were not divorced, just separated
@jblink8221 we call parents if they’ve forgotten to bring their child’s packed lunch and ask them to pop in with it when they can, if they’re unable to because they’re at work, a doctors appointment etc., we will provide something (we don’t do pb&j though because of nut allergies). Luckily it doesn’t happen very often. The issue with this incident is that she was contacted by the school and asked to drop the lunch in but refused and also told the teacher not to give her any food and put the blame on her 6 year old for not packing it herself. I doubt the school would of let her go hungry, they would of given her something but possibly not told the parents because they knew she’d be punished for it when she got home. It’s a huge safeguarding red flag.
This was great ive been waiting for a teacher to react to this thank you that beautiful little girl would of just gotten side tracked and completely forgot what she was doing imo she was the youngest and only 6 there's another one where the same child didn't wake herself up for school and I believe was younger than 6 at the time but ruby left her oversleep because she was grumpy when she woke up 😢
I'm so glad you found this video if it's something you've been looking out for! I'm currently editing my reaction to Chad and the bed. It was indeed Eve when she was younger and in nursery and it was Eve now aged 10 that was one of the two children sent to hospital due to Ruby and Jodi's abuse. Her life is absolutely heartbreaking 😢
@PetitePrimary it really is heartbreaking as someone who dealt with abuse and was part of a massive scandal in the care system in the uk (operating goldfinch) I wish there was more I could do to help these children Life's difficult enough without having to grow up with parents like these fingers crossed this ends better than the Turpin family story did because those kids went from one bad situation to another 💔
This is so heartfelt and I really believe you and how passionate you feel about this. As with the Turpin family, I hope that the huge coverage of Ruby scares abusers into realising that many people are onto them and they won't get away with it no matter how famous or rich they are. I hope you are having the opportunity to heal from your childhood ordeal? Xx
@PetitePrimary I have thankfully it's just a reminder when things like this come up like a bad dream you forgot happened but slowly comes back My heart goes out to these children they have been through so much There going to need a lot of help and love to get passed all of this and they can and will eventually It's just going to be a long road learning to trust again 💖
Appreciate this video! You've done quite a nice job here and have explained some excellent points very succinctly! Yes, please do another vid re: Chad's situation. Very interested to hear your take. Very helpful discussion on 'what we Could Do' if occasion arises! Thank you, Paris! ❣️
I suspect the word “uncomfortable” came up because the teacher was trying to get through to a very difficult mom - “I am not comfortable with this situation” (even though I know you are)
That's a very good point Kayla - it's very possible. I don't want to assume but I wouldn't be surprised if Ruby is a very tricky parent, alongside demanding and rude. Our school gives us permission that if somebody is rude on the phone, we have a script that allows us to politely end the conversation as we don't deserve getting abused by parents! Maybe that's why she chose to text and not ring Ruby? 😅
Our role of safeguarding includes that too and there are whistleblowing policies in place should we ever have concerns about a colleague. It's the same in every industry, we always need our eye out.
Here in America (at least in my State), a person working in a school setting is considered a mandatory reporter by law. Which means that you are _legally obligated to report_ what you suspect to authorities. If it can be substantiated that a person employed by the school system was aware of something or conditions that could constitute CA and did not report it, that person can be held legally responsible for their failure to act. When you become employed, you are made to sign a form that stipulates your responsibility and your knowledge of the expectation that you will be held accountable if you do not attempt to make your concerns known to the your administration (or Senior Leadership Team, in the UK). If they do not take action and the situation continues, you are required to report to local department of social services.
Hi Barbara, I'm not from America, so I'm not fully aware how it works. So you mean in this situation the teacher would have to ring the authorities straight away? Or do you need to gather evidence first? If the former, how does the local authority deal with such a workload?
Hi @@PetitePrimary ! I would say it would be extremely rare for a teacher to have to call social services. The school employee is meant to go to their immediate supervisor (or head of their department) or directly to the administration ( your SLT), who assess the information to take the concern to the next level. Of course, they attempt to get as much information as possible from staff to assess the level of concern , especially our school guidance counselors and the school nurse. We also have a school social worker. As a team, they try to get a bigger picture to determine if the concern is a one off sort of situation, as you mentioned, or something more serious. There is a good deal of documentation all the way up the chain in case the situation needs revisiting or is determined to serious enough to need to be brought to the next level (such as contacting CPS). In any event, Admin (as we call them) will decide the course of action. I would not want their job for the world. Again, it would be rare for a teacher to have to take the lead in contacting the local department of social services, however, if necessary (in the extremely unlikely event that leadership ignores the situation) they are mandated by law to do so.
I have forgotten lunch and either got a call from the lunch team or my children I dropped everything and ran down with food. Two times I forgot to pick up my kids 🤦♀️ in my defense it was minimum day and that messes with your schedule. But yeah that’s when you drive safe but quickly.
It's not even the not packing the food, it's the purposefully letting her go hungry because she's putting sole responsibility on the 6 year old 😔 Thanks for watching, would you like me to do one on Chad too?
@PetitePrimary yes i understand no kid should deal with that hell. I have a 6y and he always has food. Yes. Im new to this case i only came across it on Sloan channel. Thank you for the video
I agree 100%! I’d put it in a list of this has me concerned and if it’s a problem throughout the time with that child, then I’d make a complaint! But UK Education system in the USA and Canada are very different!
As someone who is starting my PGCE, first of all I want to say thank you for all the content, in response to this video if the teacher or school didn’t flag this as safeguarding but school then saw that video would that then escalate the concern maybe straight to social services. Also I would love to pick your brain at some point if that is at all possible.
You're welcome. An important part of your training will be in safeguarding, so I'm glad the importance of the role was reflected in this video. Of course you may pick my brain 😊 Thanks for commenting and watching x
i've never refused my children food. one time it was my aunt's job to take me to school and she didn't pack me anything in my lunch bag. my teacher gave me some graham crackers from her own snack before talking to anybody about it. there should be some kind of nutrient-dense drink or something that teachers are required by law to give children if their parents won't do anything about them not having any food. i also think it should be law that parents have to bring food or let their kids be fed if they don't have any food at school. there shouldn't be an option to refuse. but i don't make the laws or anything. and i don't know if there's anything bad that could happen if these laws existed?
Ruby was obviously lying about that "eve told me she had packed it" to cover the fact that she knew that people wouldn't like what ruby was doing. You saw the morning routine and that wasn't going to be asked. Ruby didn't even want to have responsibleity of waking eve and russel.
Tbf even if it wasn't a lie, knowing how intimidating Ruby could be to a 6 year old, Eve probably wouldn't want to admit it in front of her anyway. I haven't actually seen their morning routine. Have you seen a clip of it on YT re-uploaded do you know? X
I still make lunch for my 19 year old who gets up at 5am every morning and leaves work at 6pm..Not matter how old, I want to ensure my boy eats during the day and has enough energy to fuel his body. I also work at a special school and we have a breakfast club where any child who has NO lunch can choose free food for lunch. Poor nutrition impacts brain development and learning. Food is essential to academic, social and emotional development and should NEVER be used as a tool for punishment.
@PetitePrimary Thank you for your lovely reply. He is grateful in the typical teen way. But no matter how old he is, he will always be my boy and will know our house is his home where he is loved and respected. My aim is that when he becomes more of an adult, he will still visit with his family and carry on these nurturing values. A house of memories and happy, nurturing times. And I do believe ensuring good food is there for our children is a basic need and right. There are too many eating disorders and childhood mental health issues, and poor nutrition in the world. All children, no matter how old, deserve our love... Controlling children will result in loosing them forever. And sadly increase poor mental health
I agree with you and also hope that you and your teen will continue to have a great relationship throughout life. A video that might consequently be close to your heart is my more recent reaction video about Chad and his sleeping arrangements. It's a tough clip to watch 😢
You're 100% right Genevieve, it's a safeguarding concern and it's about knowing that boundary and what constitutes as one. Forgetting lunch? Nope, that's human, but the rest of it, 100% a concern. Thanks for watching and commenting!
From a humane standpoint I really hope they did, but the backlash they could receive if she then found out and hid the information from them... I wish there was a way of finding out what the school did!
The fifth commandment says, “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you” (Exodus 20:12). Where do you draw the line between honoring your mother and father and escaping from your duct tape restraints and calling the police?
DCYF should have taking the kids a way years a go so the dcyf worker should be in jail and ruby and jodie should get life in jail and her ex should get 30 to 25 years in jail and the only family member how should have the children is shari the oldes eny parent how abused there kids should never be around their kids or any one else's kids
As somebody not from the US, please could you clarify the difference between DCYF and CPS? I know that due to a petition made by viewers, CPS investigated the family back in their UA-cam days, but nothing happened...
I know. Hopefully they did report it, but I haven't seen any perspectives or people speak out from educators that taught the Franke children so I can't confirm. I find it hard to believe if there had never been concerns before though.
I had four kids, live in Alaska, didn’t drive and if they forgot their lunch? I walked a mile to bring it to them, even in the snow at times. I also would call the lunch ladies and ask to provide a lunch if the weather was too bad and I’d be sure to send money to repay the next day. I also have Multiple Sclerosis, making walking difficult at times. But I truly loved my children and they knew I’d understand, it was accidental. This breaks me, in so many ways. There are many options, If a child forgets and the option of, too bad, shouldn’t be an option at all. You can’t possibly concentrate, when you’re hungry. Bet if they got bad grades, they’d have a harsh consequence, but also bet being hungry played a roll in it.
Exactly, she talks about the natural consequence, but then struggling in the classroom or having those physiological affects as a result too, is an indirect consequence which nobody should want to promote!
You sound like an amazing mother ❤️
Clearly, you have genuine love. I question when Ruby stopped loving her children and why she had the littlest one when she didnt seem to even like her children. For the podcast business, I suppose. I remember learning exactly what you said. Children need to eat and it's very damaging to withhold food. Bless you for being a loving and probably Godly mother. She can talk about her religion all she wants, but talk is cheap and love is precious. I'm not sure when it became the work of a 6 year old to make her own lunch. If Ruby were a single mom working long hours, I could understand. You would make sacrifices for a child. She has rather sacrificed her children for something I just don't understand.
@@nadzach This is such a lovely comment, thank you for showing support to an absolute stranger.
You make a good point about Ruby. I'm unsure if she fell out of love with her children. What scares me is the idea that Ruby may have seen these acts as a form of "tough love." Certainly at the end with the business Connexions, she made a lot of suggestions that a**se was actually loving the children which is worrying. What do you think?
Children are lucky to have you in the classroom! Keep on caring!
@@fredrose9285 Thank you so much! What a lovely comment 😊 I appreciate it a lot x
Withholding food as a form of "punishment" is unconscionable. Ruby has, on numerous occasions, practically bragged about how she has deprived her children of breakfast, lunch, or dinner as a disciplinary measure. Unbelievable. :(
I know, it's absolutely shocking. There was one clip where she said "my children are absolutely starving...both they have to do their chores before they eat breakfast." Like she acknowledges their hunger and is deliberately restraining them from eating. Horrendous.
@@PetitePrimary As a former teacher, I know that for some children, school can be the only place where they feel safe. This is especially true for LGBTQ+ children living in very rigid, conservative households. The role of affirming, supportive teachers can be crucially important to those children's physical and emotional well-being.
Teachers must not only plan their lessons, manage their classrooms, attend staff meetings, do trainings, submit grades and reports, etc., but they ALSO need to be alert and vigilant so as to pick up on behavioral cues from their students, and suss out the most appropriate response. And this is even if they're tired, cranky, stressed, etc.
Teachers never get the respect they truly deserve. 💖
@@cosmicphoto05 You are absolutely correct! I mentioned this in another video actually because we might be the only safe and secure adult they have and that is something we can't take for granted in the day to day running of the classroom!
very important video to be made. I’ve known about the ruby franke situation for years and I’m so glad she’s finally getting justice for what she did to her children and hopefully the father gets justice too
Couldn't agree more! The clip I reacted to is old, however, I wanted to get this perspective out for people to hear. I had heard of her a few years back, but as her channel stopped, the coverage of her had dwindled until the arrest. Do you recommend any other clips I should react to? Thanks for watching and commenting!
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I was completely flabbergasted to see this. I can’t believe that the child was being held responsible for their own lunch and the fact she didn’t want anyone stepping in to provide some lunch is pure cruelty! Horrendous behaviour from a parent. Wasn’t the first time I realised one of mine hadn’t taken theirs out of the house/car and I’ve gone back or school provided a bite to eat.
She should be ashamed of herself that she would withhold food as punishment.
I absolutely agree. It's a very poor attitude and uses responsibility as an excuse when she's only 6.... I'm glad you had your children's backs ☺️
Fab! Also, I have worked previously as a MDSA and also monitor children/food at lunchtime. I have also expressed concerns about children and we also have to complete safeguarding training. Yes we would have waited for permission from a teacher or SLT to feed the child and then would of done everything possible to feed that child! my heart really hurt listening to what the mother said and remembering the child was only 6 years old! As you expressed, you would not know if the child actually ate breakfast and when after school the child would be able eat again, awful to think that the child could possible go over 24 hours without eating 🥺
I know, it's truly heartbreaking and to know she was one of the children that got taken to hospital for malnourishment upon Ruby's arrest - just goes to show if the school has suspicions it was clearly justified!!
At our school where I work here in Canada, we contact the parents if there's not enough lunch, if there are nuts in the food, if the lunch isn't healthy enough (i.e. one junior kindergartener was sent with only Hershey's kisses and Fruit Loops) but ESPECIALLY if the child has NO lunch. It is the expectation that if a lunch is forgotten, the parent drop by the school with food and if they are late we try to provide healthy snacks, the point being that a hungry child cannot learn. Oversights do happen on occasion, we understand - but so far none have been deliberate. Adults can fast if they choose, but kids are growing and it takes calories and nutrients to run those little bodies and developing brains. Starving a child NOW will result in health problems LATER. It's NOT a "privilege", it is a REQUIREMENT. Any parent who would do this on purpose would be reported to the school principal, the next step being a call to Children's Aid if not resolved - and seen by the teachers as problematic (and quietly referred to as a nut-job). In general, the parent is 100% responsible for providing their children with food. If they can't afford it, they can speak with a social worker for assistance. But if they CAN afford it, especially if they are MILLIONAIRES, NO EXCUSE is acceptable for not feeding their children. EVER. This is not, I repeat, NOT normal OR acceptable. Feeding your own children is JOB ONE if you are a Parent.
I can't add anything there. Think you're spot on and I agree with everything you said.
Personal question for you though, do you find it demanding having to ring so often? And that's just for lunches, I assume you have to ring for many other things too.
Thanks for watching and commenting ☺️
@@PetitePrimaryActually we don't seem to need to make calls often. it's usually the new parents of junior kindergartners and they usually learn better quickly. I don't think we've ever needed to call a seasoned parent of six with grown children. that's horrendous. (sorry for my long comment...this case hit teachers and school support staff hard)
Cheers!
@@heatherallingham7120 oh well that's good then! No need to apologise, the fury in your comment and my 30 mins video shows our passion for the job and how serious we take keeping the children safe ❤️
This was really interesting from a teacher’s perspective on safeguarding! I would really enjoy more videos on similar issues relating to our role as a teacher. I completed my PGCE in 2022 and am currently doing supply teaching for one more year😀
Thanks for commenting Oliver! I'm glad my point came across about our role and its importance! I'm strongly considering reacting to clips of Chad!
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your thoughts on this as a teacher, all the way from the UK. I know in the US, teachers and people who work in any type of social services, are mandated reporters for CA and neglect.
@@pattyolson3842You're welcome, thank you for watching! We don't use the term mandated reporter in the UK, or very rarely at least, but we have a responsibility for safeguarding that is determined by government and school/trust policies. We have compulsory training from the government as well as frequent school training.
I worked in the school lunch room for yrs if a child forgot a lunch we never called the parent we gave the child a pb& j sandwich a piece of fruit and a milk. We made 10 sandwiches a day for "just in case", they didnt get the hot lunch of the day but they did get food. Also just an FYI Ruby & Keven were not divorced, just separated
Ah apologies, for the incorrect detail. Thank you for watching and commenting! I'm glad your school took precautions, sounds like a great idea!
@jblink8221 we call parents if they’ve forgotten to bring their child’s packed lunch and ask them to pop in with it when they can, if they’re unable to because they’re at work, a doctors appointment etc., we will provide something (we don’t do pb&j though because of nut allergies). Luckily it doesn’t happen very often. The issue with this incident is that she was contacted by the school and asked to drop the lunch in but refused and also told the teacher not to give her any food and put the blame on her 6 year old for not packing it herself. I doubt the school would of let her go hungry, they would of given her something but possibly not told the parents because they knew she’d be punished for it when she got home. It’s a huge safeguarding red flag.
@@hellcat58563100% agreed. Which country do you work in? Are you also from the UK?
Yes I’m in the UK.
I have wondered If anyone stepped In and gave poor Eve a lunch that day.
I'd really want to find out too, that and every other time it occurred 😞
This was great ive been waiting for a teacher to react to this thank you that beautiful little girl would of just gotten side tracked and completely forgot what she was doing imo she was the youngest and only 6 there's another one where the same child didn't wake herself up for school and I believe was younger than 6 at the time but ruby left her oversleep because she was grumpy when she woke up 😢
I'm so glad you found this video if it's something you've been looking out for! I'm currently editing my reaction to Chad and the bed. It was indeed Eve when she was younger and in nursery and it was Eve now aged 10 that was one of the two children sent to hospital due to Ruby and Jodi's abuse. Her life is absolutely heartbreaking 😢
@PetitePrimary it really is heartbreaking as someone who dealt with abuse and was part of a massive scandal in the care system in the uk (operating goldfinch) I wish there was more I could do to help these children
Life's difficult enough without having to grow up with parents like these fingers crossed this ends better than the Turpin family story did because those kids went from one bad situation to another 💔
This is so heartfelt and I really believe you and how passionate you feel about this. As with the Turpin family, I hope that the huge coverage of Ruby scares abusers into realising that many people are onto them and they won't get away with it no matter how famous or rich they are. I hope you are having the opportunity to heal from your childhood ordeal? Xx
@PetitePrimary I have thankfully it's just a reminder when things like this come up like a bad dream you forgot happened but slowly comes back
My heart goes out to these children they have been through so much
There going to need a lot of help and love to get passed all of this and they can and will eventually
It's just going to be a long road learning to trust again 💖
Appreciate this video! You've done quite a nice job here and have explained some excellent points very succinctly! Yes, please do another vid re: Chad's situation. Very interested to hear your take. Very helpful discussion on 'what we Could Do' if occasion arises! Thank you, Paris! ❣️
Aw thank you for your encouraging comment! I have filmed and am currently editing a reaction to Chad, so I hope you keep an eye out for that soon xx
I suspect the word “uncomfortable” came up because the teacher was trying to get through to a very difficult mom - “I am not comfortable with this situation” (even though I know you are)
That's a very good point Kayla - it's very possible. I don't want to assume but I wouldn't be surprised if Ruby is a very tricky parent, alongside demanding and rude. Our school gives us permission that if somebody is rude on the phone, we have a script that allows us to politely end the conversation as we don't deserve getting abused by parents! Maybe that's why she chose to text and not ring Ruby? 😅
Sadly, teachers and coaches can be some of the worst when it comes to kids. And they'll cover up and poopoo away allegations. Monitor your co-workers.
Our role of safeguarding includes that too and there are whistleblowing policies in place should we ever have concerns about a colleague. It's the same in every industry, we always need our eye out.
Here in America (at least in my State), a person working in a school setting is considered a mandatory reporter by law. Which means that you are _legally obligated to report_ what you suspect to authorities. If it can be substantiated that a person employed by the school system was aware of something or conditions that could constitute CA and did not report it, that person can be held legally responsible for their failure to act. When you become employed, you are made to sign a form that stipulates your responsibility and your knowledge of the expectation that you will be held accountable if you do not attempt to make your concerns known to the your administration (or Senior Leadership Team, in the UK). If they do not take action and the situation continues, you are required to report to local department of social services.
Hi Barbara, I'm not from America, so I'm not fully aware how it works. So you mean in this situation the teacher would have to ring the authorities straight away? Or do you need to gather evidence first? If the former, how does the local authority deal with such a workload?
Hi @@PetitePrimary ! I would say it would be extremely rare for a teacher to have to call social services. The school employee is meant to go to their immediate supervisor (or head of their department) or directly to the administration ( your SLT), who assess the information to take the concern to the next level. Of course, they attempt to get as much information as possible from staff to assess the level of concern , especially our school guidance counselors and the school nurse. We also have a school social worker. As a team, they try to get a bigger picture to determine if the concern is a one off sort of situation, as you mentioned, or something more serious. There is a good deal of documentation all the way up the chain in case the situation needs revisiting or is determined to serious enough to need to be brought to the next level (such as contacting CPS). In any event, Admin (as we call them) will decide the course of action. I would not want their job for the world.
Again, it would be rare for a teacher to have to take the lead in contacting the local department of social services, however, if necessary (in the extremely unlikely event that leadership ignores the situation) they are mandated by law to do so.
I have forgotten lunch and either got a call from the lunch team or my children I dropped everything and ran down with food. Two times I forgot to pick up my kids 🤦♀️ in my defense it was minimum day and that messes with your schedule. But yeah that’s when you drive safe but quickly.
Heartbreaking how does this crazy person not pack food for child for school. I pack to much options for my kids.
It's not even the not packing the food, it's the purposefully letting her go hungry because she's putting sole responsibility on the 6 year old 😔 Thanks for watching, would you like me to do one on Chad too?
@PetitePrimary yes i understand no kid should deal with that hell. I have a 6y and he always has food. Yes. Im new to this case i only came across it on Sloan channel. Thank you for the video
I agree 100%! I’d put it in a list of this has me concerned and if it’s a problem throughout the time with that child, then I’d make a complaint! But UK Education system in the USA and Canada are very different!
Thanks for watching and commenting Rachel. Are you from USA or Canada then? Xx
As someone who is starting my PGCE, first of all I want to say thank you for all the content, in response to this video if the teacher or school didn’t flag this as safeguarding but school then saw that video would that then escalate the concern maybe straight to social services. Also I would love to pick your brain at some point if that is at all possible.
You're welcome. An important part of your training will be in safeguarding, so I'm glad the importance of the role was reflected in this video. Of course you may pick my brain 😊 Thanks for commenting and watching x
i've never refused my children food. one time it was my aunt's job to take me to school and she didn't pack me anything in my lunch bag. my teacher gave me some graham crackers from her own snack before talking to anybody about it. there should be some kind of nutrient-dense drink or something that teachers are required by law to give children if their parents won't do anything about them not having any food. i also think it should be law that parents have to bring food or let their kids be fed if they don't have any food at school. there shouldn't be an option to refuse. but i don't make the laws or anything. and i don't know if there's anything bad that could happen if these laws existed?
Are used to forget my lunch all the way to high school
The best revenge is massive success.
Sorry what's this in relation to?
Ruby was obviously lying about that "eve told me she had packed it" to cover the fact that she knew that people wouldn't like what ruby was doing. You saw the morning routine and that wasn't going to be asked. Ruby didn't even want to have responsibleity of waking eve and russel.
Tbf even if it wasn't a lie, knowing how intimidating Ruby could be to a 6 year old, Eve probably wouldn't want to admit it in front of her anyway. I haven't actually seen their morning routine. Have you seen a clip of it on YT re-uploaded do you know? X
I still make lunch for my 19 year old who gets up at 5am every morning and leaves work at 6pm..Not matter how old, I want to ensure my boy eats during the day and has enough energy to fuel his body.
I also work at a special school and we have a breakfast club where any child who has NO lunch can choose free food for lunch. Poor nutrition impacts brain development and learning. Food is essential to academic, social and emotional development and should NEVER be used as a tool for punishment.
Aw Emma, this is so dedicated. I hope he gives you a big hug and thanks you every morning! Thanks for watching xx
@PetitePrimary Thank you for your lovely reply. He is grateful in the typical teen way. But no matter how old he is, he will always be my boy and will know our house is his home where he is loved and respected. My aim is that when he becomes more of an adult, he will still visit with his family and carry on these nurturing values. A house of memories and happy, nurturing times. And I do believe ensuring good food is there for our children is a basic need and right. There are too many eating disorders and childhood mental health issues, and poor nutrition in the world. All children, no matter how old, deserve our love... Controlling children will result in loosing them forever. And sadly increase poor mental health
I agree with you and also hope that you and your teen will continue to have a great relationship throughout life.
A video that might consequently be close to your heart is my more recent reaction video about Chad and his sleeping arrangements. It's a tough clip to watch 😢
Privilege she didn't say right to eat. She believes they had no right to food.
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I think this is a safe guarding example based on her disgusting comment. I hope to heck someone gave her some food that day.
I’d like to think they did and maybe didn’t tell the psycho mother because she’d likely punish her when she got home.
You're 100% right Genevieve, it's a safeguarding concern and it's about knowing that boundary and what constitutes as one. Forgetting lunch? Nope, that's human, but the rest of it, 100% a concern. Thanks for watching and commenting!
From a humane standpoint I really hope they did, but the backlash they could receive if she then found out and hid the information from them... I wish there was a way of finding out what the school did!
hey there. it turns out there were 3 children in the house R, E and J i'm not going to use the names.
Oh J was there too? Wonder where the last child was as I know that S and C have moved out
the article i saw said a 14 yewar old and J is 14@@PetitePrimary
The fifth commandment says, “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you” (Exodus 20:12).
Where do you draw the line between honoring your mother and father and escaping from your duct tape restraints and calling the police?
The teachers should do what the children needs and forget mums and dads its what the children need they aways puts the childrens needs first
DCYF should have taking the kids a way years a go so the dcyf worker should be in jail and ruby and jodie should get life in jail and her ex should get 30 to 25 years in jail and the only family member how should have the children is shari the oldes eny parent how abused there kids should never be around their kids or any one else's kids
As somebody not from the US, please could you clarify the difference between DCYF and CPS?
I know that due to a petition made by viewers, CPS investigated the family back in their UA-cam days, but nothing happened...
Teachers are mandated reporters! Cmon!!! 😮
I know. Hopefully they did report it, but I haven't seen any perspectives or people speak out from educators that taught the Franke children so I can't confirm. I find it hard to believe if there had never been concerns before though.