Bad Religion - Greg Graffin PHD Interiview

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  • @andrewpurvis1754
    @andrewpurvis1754 8 років тому +32

    Wouldn't it be amazing to see some of the lectures from Gregg Graffin's classes he teaches. I'd love to see him give a lecture on evolution or related topics.people should tweet at him they'd like to see videos of his lectures so that maybe he'll record some of his future lectures and upload them somewhere, and/or release any past ones if he has recorded them. itd be amazing

  • @SimonFraserGemmill
    @SimonFraserGemmill 15 років тому +10

    I wonder how many punk fans Graffin has put onto science. So few other musicians have achieved that. He's the epitome of a role model.

  • @TeenageXXXBonehead
    @TeenageXXXBonehead 15 років тому +6

    So much respect for Greg Graffin

  • @stevecash83
    @stevecash83 13 років тому +7

    Isn't choosing to be an atheist the same as choosing to deny a God? Where as being religious is choosing to accept a God. No amount of scientific research or discovery will ever be able to prove nor disprove whether or not a God exists, because it would exist beyond the bounds and laws of logic and science. So, a Christian is no more naive to choose God than an atheist is to choose NO God.
    There will never be absolute proof on either side. Therefor, your choice is based on faith. You have none.

  • @aaainaaaa
    @aaainaaaa 13 років тому +5

    I listen
    I agree
    We need more thinkers like this.

  • @allroy0234
    @allroy0234 12 років тому +4

    The man! I love his book and music

  • @ILikeTheThingsIDo
    @ILikeTheThingsIDo 14 років тому +2

    I see what some people are saying that his dissertation is more philosophical than scientific. The thing is, evolution is not just of the body but also of ideas and social norms. For instance, things like love, guilt, and altruism have arguments that they are developed traits that aided in creating a cohesive group dynamic to increase the chances of survival. He was trying to broach a similar connection to religion. At least that's what I think, if someone wants to refute me go ahead.

  • @MRMUG24
    @MRMUG24 14 років тому +2

    I'm reading his dissertation right now. Its really deep. It is not only helping me understand the perspectives of others but is really helping me to understand and define my own belief system. Buy the book. Its called "Evolution and Religion: Questioning the Beliefs of the World's Eminent Evolutionists" Good stuff!

  • @raptorschild
    @raptorschild 14 років тому +1

    He explains it quite clearly. His dissertation is in Zoology, yet part of his portfolio of work revolves around a statistic involving philosophical beliefs. This is why history and philosophical science is relevent within his hard science discipline. He is answering a direct question, and not discussing his entire coursework. Simply spaeking to a questionaire which is only a part of his portfolio. Listen up.

  • @Phuh_Queue
    @Phuh_Queue 12 років тому +3

    greg graffin and bad religion for the WIN!!!

  • @birdieerdie2349
    @birdieerdie2349 2 роки тому

    One of out greatest, and one of my favorites, minds. Lets go!

  • @CodyAllenmusic
    @CodyAllenmusic 15 років тому +1

    Very good observation.

  • @NinjaLill
    @NinjaLill 3 роки тому +1

    I love this!

  • @Williamsjs10
    @Williamsjs10 11 років тому +4

    I grew up with the ideals of Christianity and Jesus the savior etc. and sometimes it feels like I've no choice but to believe because I've believed my whole life.
    I was taught the 'seed' of doubt of my faith is sown by Satan himself. So naturally I'm extremely conflicted as to drop my faith and live my own life, and risk being self-conscious that I let Satan win. (which ironically would mean I didn't truly let go of my faith)
    I don't know man. I just don't have the capacity to be an atheist..

    • @enginesdown
      @enginesdown 6 років тому

      "True atheists are in Vatican." Lacan. Notice that Greg don't claim himself as an atheist...(if he does, he could be the next pope !)

  • @UbiquitousSlumber
    @UbiquitousSlumber 11 років тому +1

    The foundation of those beliefs came from egypt and have a 5000+ year history. Everything we know today came from this religious base- Including Science, observation, and Mathematics. All Numbers we currently use are created from dividing a circle or "sun" with a cross, The amount of numbers we chose to make before repeating again are 9, 7 for each major planet, 1 for the sun and 1 for the earth. This was also the basis for Time, Horus the god of the Sun is depicted wearing a watch. (cont)

  • @Guercinator
    @Guercinator 11 років тому +1

    HE'S JUST SO FUCKING SMART!!!!

  • @MillennialMonk
    @MillennialMonk 9 років тому +3

    Uploader needs to fix the spelling of interview.

  • @ronocko
    @ronocko 12 років тому

    @dennisjr77 Did you watch the whole video or just stop at the statistic?

  • @bogucha12
    @bogucha12 2 дні тому

    Which religion . And why only this one ?

  • @nickkoby3
    @nickkoby3 15 років тому +1

    Dr. Graffin is a smart guy. Little doubt exists about that. However, after listening to him explain his dissertation on test results that are completely obvious to those who pay attention to this stuff, I have to question the leniency of the critical methods Dr. Graffin's dissertation was afforded.

  • @TubbsMacgee
    @TubbsMacgee 12 років тому +2

    The "Naturalist World View" is completely in line with the tenants of Judaism.

  • @claroqueyes
    @claroqueyes 14 років тому

    @ironicsomething No. A PhD usually lasts 5 years, you have to take 2 years of coursework, write research papers, and then do an original dissertation that contributes to human knowledge. The survey is probably part of his dissertation, dissertations are usually the size of a small book. Don't discredit PhD's, it takes a lot of work and effort.

  • @FireandSolace
    @FireandSolace 15 років тому

    I have absolutely zero points of reference for any of his allusions, but I think I understood what he meant generally. He was just suggesting that there are allot of people out there who are scientists in title only. Right?

  • @CodyAllenmusic
    @CodyAllenmusic 15 років тому

    clicked what? anyway, was that below addressed to me? Because with a communal group, how would a form of government rise to power if everyone refuses to be lead by them?

  • @Mailman4187
    @Mailman4187 15 років тому

    I really want to read Anarchy Evolution. Anyone know when in 2010 its supposed to hit stores?

  • @goranblomqvist1482
    @goranblomqvist1482 10 років тому +2

    Mr Graffin "MAY" sound a little bit un-ortodox... But i HAVE to admit he got a LOT(!) of logical/non religious points here. As we ALL knew,knowlige evolves from thinking,NOT from religion...

  • @romansseven
    @romansseven 13 років тому +1

    Science could be nothing more than a useful custom - D. Hume

  • @jamesdragonforce
    @jamesdragonforce 12 років тому +1

    I'm starting to like this guy better than Richard Dawkins the proselytizing atheist. I love it when Dawks attacks extremes however.

  • @UbiquitousSlumber
    @UbiquitousSlumber 11 років тому

    Every number is actually a relation to a planet and is a metaphor for our solar system in various positions of rotation. They are ordered by how they affect our planet. The sun has the greatest affect, 1. The moon 2, Jupiter 3, 4 Uranus, 5 Mercury, 6 Venus, 7 Neptune, 8 Saturn, 9 Mars. The days of the week also are given names for the days when each planet has greatest effect on earth. Mon(moon) Tues(mars) Wed(Mercury), Thurs(Jupiter), Friday(Venus) Sat (Saturn) Sun(Sun). Cont(final)

  • @toast77
    @toast77 14 років тому

    @Rattnuff That's overly simplistic, don't you think?

  • @CodyAllenmusic
    @CodyAllenmusic 15 років тому

    Yes, you are right in that sense 100%, I agree. And as most (if not all) scientists are independent-minded, and most of them agree, then that produces a likely observation, do you agree? (By the way, I have no connotations of sarcasm or hostility here)

  • @Skelter84
    @Skelter84 15 років тому +1

    love this dude. but hes to fuckin smart!

  • @1978alexn
    @1978alexn 12 років тому

    @ronocko lets look at the dino. Of course the appearance of the original dino could certainly change, but the results would always be within the dino species. This is clearly seen within the vast variety of the dog species. All of them are different and all of them are dogs. The bottom line is that mutation defiantly can change creatures, mostly for the worse occasionally for the better, but they never create a new type of creature.

  • @HANK0000
    @HANK0000 15 років тому

    I believe when he talks about religion being compatible or incompatible with evolution, he doesn't just mean Christianity, Judiasm or Islam, I believe he is referring to Naturalism, which can be considered a religion. Or you can consider it this way: Einstein once said "Science without religion is boring. Religion without science is blind." But Einstein also said that he didn't believe in a personal God. Steven Hawking also mentioned the "Mind of God" but he was referring to laws of physics.

  • @ronocko
    @ronocko 12 років тому

    @1978alexn Groups evolve not just single animals, We don't see transitions because everything is in transition you don't look like your parents exactly the small differences accumulate and when in nature certain beneficial adaptations will be chosen (by nature due to the fact they are better suited to survive under a current condition) and that trait will spread through the populace.
    Pinpoint the exact moments you changed from a baby to a toddler to a child to a teenager to an adult...

  • @watashiwanachodes
    @watashiwanachodes 12 років тому +1

    very good greg yet the question arises by itself: ¿why should we be compelled to accept a world view that makes compatible religion and evolutionary biology? LOVE BR by the way

  • @michanita
    @michanita 15 років тому +1

    I pretty much agree that religion is a social tool and adaptation of humans. I am open to the "mystical" component of the "religious" experience, but I kinda feel that religion right now is causing a lot of problems in the world. I'm not so sure that biologicl "evolution" is going to a good place though b/c of all the chemicals/pollutants & things we're doing to ourselves-its almost as if we are in a race with ourselves to see which component will be destroyed the fastest....

  • @NeonGenesisPlatinum
    @NeonGenesisPlatinum 13 років тому

    He's always shown his depth of knowledge in his lyrics, if you don't think Greg Graffin is a fucking genious then you may have a deep seeded problem of your own!

  • @alienandroid2012
    @alienandroid2012 13 років тому

    @TheMiles8619 agree. this guy has brains for sure.

  • @tml4873
    @tml4873 14 років тому

    I'm a big fan of Greg's, but I have to agree with some of the other posters in that I don't see the relevance of his study. What scientists believe on a philosophical subject is, in my opinion, scientifically irrelevant. It may have some interesting social implications, but this was for a science PhD.

  • @CodyAllenmusic
    @CodyAllenmusic 15 років тому

    Yes, but what other way may we find out that evidence agrees if not by consulting a scientist, unless we are a scientist ourselves. They show the evidence when they have a lead, if they do not show these, or don't go along with them, they are merely "prophets".

  • @humanover2
    @humanover2 15 років тому

    Entropy and Order are opposite sides of the same coin, NEITHER can exist without the other. They, like all opposites, validate the existence of each other.

  • @ILikeTheThingsIDo
    @ILikeTheThingsIDo 14 років тому

    @ironicsomething I will look up his dissertation so I can get a better picture of what his study was than a 5 minute interview.

  • @demoballa
    @demoballa 12 років тому +1

    this guy gets it ^

  • @kasperjames
    @kasperjames 13 років тому

    interesting thesis. perhaps we can learn something from this if we actually read into it. because this runs concurrent with some of the input Ive also received over the last 10 years.

  • @ronocko
    @ronocko 12 років тому

    @1978alexn It's not disputed there may be life on other planets it's disputed the technology exists to traverse the galaxy nevermind the universe if there was intelligent life capable of the sort of travel we would have made contact with them via radio waves that we've sent out light years.
    We haven't stopped evolving how many people do you see for example with a furrowed brow typical in our species uptill about 3000 - 4000 years ago, I already explained time is a key factor aswell as necessity

  • @michaelgrimes5588
    @michaelgrimes5588 5 років тому +2

    Based on his music, youd swear he knows God...sometimes the conclusions we reach oppose our method of getting there....

  • @CodyAllenmusic
    @CodyAllenmusic 15 років тому

    you could say the same about religion. It is merely popular belief with no scientific backing. When you ask a scientist, I would not call him a "majority" in the sense that you mentioned.

  • @TheScienceiscool
    @TheScienceiscool 12 років тому

    Its funny how none of the top comments are about Bad Religion

  • @CodyAllenmusic
    @CodyAllenmusic 15 років тому

    oops, accidentally pressed enter. anyway, I was going to say: on certain subjects, I find it more logical to go with the majority, such as evolution, dinosaurs, ancient life, etc. NOT all the time though, you are correct.

  • @CaptVickHartnell
    @CaptVickHartnell 13 років тому

    Fossils of Homo heidelbergensis have shown evidence of ceremonial burials, which implies a belief in an afterlife and therefore some form of religion. This is seen as one of the key points showing the development of intelligence in early humans. Greg is absolutely correct, religion is part of evolution.

  • @TheMechajs
    @TheMechajs 12 років тому

    Ok, i guess you need a silly comment : I LOVE YOU GREG ! ENOUGH thanks !

  • @gophercureself
    @gophercureself 11 років тому +1

    bill o'reilly tides you can't explain that

  • @borgir9817
    @borgir9817 3 роки тому

    I want him as my teacher

  • @TheTimeKeepingKeeper
    @TheTimeKeepingKeeper 13 років тому

    In times of war:Johns very little brother had a corn to eat and asked his brother if he wants 1/2 John said he just had one..can u prove not ?Their father was watching them and didnt say a thing..probably his father was watching and didnt say a thing niether -but john didnt felt any hunger that night -u shouldnt feel any niether...how is that possible?i just made that up.
    A man of intelligence would never question someones good will and charity so stop bothering ur mind - ur not alone here

  • @ash0ppingcart
    @ash0ppingcart 14 років тому

    I'm not a fan of generalizations. I can't speak for other disciplines but I'm 19 working on my Bachelor's in Political Science and if anything, I've learned to be skeptical. I'm not a moron. Indoctrination is a choice, I believe. Not every political scientist is going to be a liberal.
    Nonetheless, your assumption could have some validity. I take things I and other people say with a grain of salt.
    Academia isn't taught by the state, it's funded by the state. Politicians aren't the teachers.

  • @greencorn1989
    @greencorn1989 14 років тому

    greg must have only just finished a phd recently and hes pushin 40 odd. before then its solid life experience. he is fuckin clever like

  • @globalchaos1984
    @globalchaos1984 14 років тому

    You look for knowledge on youtube?

  • @CodyAllenmusic
    @CodyAllenmusic 15 років тому

    I very rarely take the majority rule for granted, I am an anarchist, I hardly ever go with common belief, however, on certain subjects, i

  • @1978alexn
    @1978alexn 12 років тому

    @ronocko you live in the circle, i look inside it.

  • @CodyAllenmusic
    @CodyAllenmusic 15 років тому

    Even through what you say, there can still be anarchy, people naturally want to do what is best for them, and if they open their eyes, everyone should see the hypocrisy of the common government. You're right, it cannot exist in it's ideal form, but there can be a form, of, even as you speak, because there will still need to be people to organize majority votes, corporation heads, and law that is determined by the people instead of 1 person, anyway, again good observation.

  • @aaainaaaa
    @aaainaaaa 13 років тому +1

    I would love to sit down with greg,, cook him dinner ( im a chef ) and just talk life.....

    • @michaelgrimes5588
      @michaelgrimes5588 5 років тому

      He wouldn't want that, go ahead and invite him...

  • @campbellpaul
    @campbellpaul 13 років тому

    The chicken definately came before the egg, so where did the chicken come from?
    It evolved from a religious dinosaur, spared only by his relatives because they didn't eat chicken on Sunday.

  • @darbycrash5320
    @darbycrash5320 9 років тому

    Entrophy or chaos? I prefer chaos, The Entrophy is degeneration of ordinated systems, chaos is Will, is tendence To disorder !

  • @1978alexn
    @1978alexn 12 років тому

    @ronocko shoes will never turn into pants.

  • @humanover2
    @humanover2 15 років тому

    No, it's just waiting for its ride home from the mall.

  • @amateurchemistry
    @amateurchemistry 13 років тому

    @stevecash83 It isn't a matter of whether or not there is an absolute answer to the question of the existence of god; it's about what the implications of the answer would be. The ideas themselves are irrelevant; it's a question of how ideas lead people to live. Furthermore, if you're referencing the laws of logic, one never has to disprove a negation. The logical tautology of atheism holds until god is proven to exist.

  • @KaimProduction1
    @KaimProduction1 11 років тому +1

    Coolest teacher :D

  • @tseng61
    @tseng61 13 років тому

    @Chanut83 Consider we scientifically, technologically and medically advance to a point where we "get rid of" death and aging, then what? I guess we'll scoff at ourselves.

  • @ash0ppingcart
    @ash0ppingcart 14 років тому

    It depends. If professors and teachers are telling students that evolution or theology or conservative business practice or liberalism IS "the way", then yes that is clearly attempted indoctrination. Luckily, I've only come across one professor like that. I believe "Submission Complete" is a BR song about this.
    Narrow-minded beliefs/practices without understanding and considering alternative solutions, that is the result of indoctrination. It depends!

  • @mrAlphaneuf
    @mrAlphaneuf 9 років тому

    In sagacious dialog he don't despite their average way...

  • @guss1470
    @guss1470 13 років тому

    I am a Christan and I agree with him.

  • @usfdude
    @usfdude 14 років тому

    He hated religion so much he obtained a degree in evolutionary bio...

  • @MyJarOfFlies
    @MyJarOfFlies 13 років тому

    THAT'S HOW THEY RATION THE POOR.

  • @geezer6970
    @geezer6970 14 років тому

    You can't make a bogus judgment about this interview alone. Go and actually read his dissertation. And saying that religion developed because of evolution is not philosophical. It's more psychological then it is philosophical. He goes more in depth as to why in,"Is Belief in God Good, Bad, or Irrelevant." Every action we make is triggered by either our hardwiring, education, or environment. The chemicals that flow through the brain and cause you to think the way you do are more biological.

  • @xXbastardX
    @xXbastardX 13 років тому

    @Chanut83 Science is the pursuit of knowledge, and the scientific method is composed of fundamental building blocks of how we understand our world and the universe in which it resides. Only an unwise man would scoff at prior scientific endeavors, given that they don't consider the way in which the fountain of knowledge grows through trial and error. Life and existence are products of complex chemical reactions that can be mapped by mathematicians; the true facilitators of scientific consensus.

  • @OrangeShirtDude
    @OrangeShirtDude 11 років тому

    Sounds like Napolean Dynamite.

  • @TheTimeKeepingKeeper
    @TheTimeKeepingKeeper 13 років тому

    Any another thing for all little brains here how is it possible for a man ...and that is if u really know what are u really made of "if you made it to the point to undestand your originalitly (ur nature) " how could u ever question religions when the fist message is to get ur self to the point of being a God.

  • @Maatt28
    @Maatt28 13 років тому

    @stevecash83 However it is not rational to choose to believe in something when no evidence supports your conviction. The only reason anyone believes in a god is to fill an emotional need. Having emotional needs is not a good reason to believe in a god. In my opinion comforting yourself with ideas like an afterlife is sign of weakness and denial, which is not ok. We have to confront ourselves with the truth: There is no god and the meaning of life is only what we make it. And that isnt bad : )

  • @ronocko
    @ronocko 12 років тому

    @ronocko There's no clear cut this is baby this is toddler it sort of fades over periods days weeks months and years until you look nothing like you did before. With evolution this happens over many generations, we can observe it in bacteria because they have such short lives that we can see more generations in actual observable time.
    Look at dogs artificially selected for another example all come from the grey wolf and look at the great diversity between all breeds today.

  • @michanita
    @michanita 15 років тому

    our idealogies/philosophies/reasoning or our biological/material self-it looks like both roads are headed to a very dark end at the rate that humans are moving ;-( Thank goodness for music

  • @pablodz81
    @pablodz81 10 років тому

    Amen

  • @tomford5416
    @tomford5416 5 років тому

    wuuuuuuuuuuurrrgggh deep and meaningfull comment passed down from wise elders
    wHOLY shit theres a comet about to kill us all
    #thoughts

  • @1978alexn
    @1978alexn 12 років тому

    @ronocko ok I'm starting to believe you. so your sating that apes evolved from pigs from elephants from mamaths yes humans may have been once mamaths

  • @humanover2
    @humanover2 15 років тому

    Anarchy is, IMO, humanly impossible. As social animals humans group together due to our "Strength in Numbers" type instincts. In the group one or more will always be looked to for guidance, advice, etc making them informal leaders. Also since humans form groups, within these groups there will develop a set of rules, norms, mores, and taboos which is a fundamental system of law and order. Anarchy is an ideal, and nothing in it's ideal form can exist.

  • @darkvultures
    @darkvultures 14 років тому

    @TheGreatthenate "and anyone who thinks that university=knowledge and education is an indoctrinated sheep"
    +1 to that

  • @Maatt28
    @Maatt28 11 років тому

  • @judet2006
    @judet2006 11 років тому +1

    see: Science of Myth by Screeching Weasel

  • @geezer6970
    @geezer6970 14 років тому

    @JOHNLENNONWINZ Just ordered mine today!

  • @Thycid
    @Thycid 14 років тому

    If he's so smart why can't he pronounce Zoology?

  • @Danneleet
    @Danneleet 14 років тому

    @ethancfbz maybe a little. Dont think thats the reason a religion starts, but I do think that is what it becomes. A way to control. I wish I could write a novel and make hundred thousend ppl belive it so much that they would blow them self up for me

  • @jimmcs2000
    @jimmcs2000 11 років тому

    A chicken and an egg were having sex. The chicken stopped and lit a cigarette . Guess that answers that question....

  • @Danneleet
    @Danneleet 14 років тому

    btw, relogion is made to control ppl. Thats it's only reason. Think about it

  • @globalchaos1984
    @globalchaos1984 14 років тому

    @flatopguy Please forgive me for typing fast.

  • @mickkiller
    @mickkiller 11 років тому

    This is such a let down. I'll reserve my judgement when I see the thesis.

  • @wisterV
    @wisterV 12 років тому

    I believe that whale meat tastes like fish bacon.

  • @1978alexn
    @1978alexn 12 років тому

    @1978alexn then after that you can give my buddy a lying test as well. i bet your jaw will drop.

  • @TeenageXXXBonehead
    @TeenageXXXBonehead 13 років тому

    @TheMiles8619 Fuck yes!

  • @Danneleet
    @Danneleet 14 років тому

    man, he knows many big words q;

  • @blankschito
    @blankschito 15 років тому

    ggrrrhh gregs a slow talker haha