Dinner, ok,it's a nice gesture, but that girl should have never accepted those clothing items! She should have felt insulted if you even suggested paying for them! She's no good. Do not ask her out again!
i remember taking a girl on a first date to a tea house and a movie, than she said she wanted "friendly relationship" whatever that means, than i said: ok, then you pay next time, she said WHAT? Strangely we didn't go out more together.
Take it easy on this guy. He is young and inexperienced. There are far more costly lessons you have to learn in life. Mistakes are fine- as long as you learn from them. Like some guys have said: 1.) Coffee. You pay first time. Next time (if) - she pays. 2.) Nice pleasant conversation - look her straight in the eyes, smile. 3.) Let her talk - do not dominate the conversation, but also be very direct. 4.) You will know after 30 minutes if it is going anywhere or not. 5.) Worse come to worse you are out maybe $25, some gas $ and your time. There are worse ways to spend your time. If anything, it will start to hone in your skills.
The goal of all dates is to spend as little as possible. Spending extra money does not really help a man, and you will usually be placed in the friend zone quickly.
Honestly I went through this same thing when I went out with this hot girl at 16. I was so desperate to impress her that I ended up spending 300 bucks on the very first date because we went to the mall. Then on our second date when I told her I just wanted to go to the movies and get something to eat and that I didn't have the money to buy some extra stuff she needed she dropped me like a bag of potatoes. Didn't respond to my calls, didn't acknowledge me at school, brushed me off, it was humiliating. That was my first real taste at how vindictive and self-entitled women can be and what it means to be a woman's whipped little bitch.
Bill could talk all day about algebra, and nuclear science... AND STILL BE BADASS HILARIOUS!! way to go Bill im going to your show in the Montreal Metropolis in March!!!!!
that s why you test a girl first. So first date I go that way 1 cheap 2 no car ,we take the bus and if the bitch doesn't like it , I don't care because no second date , so no nice restaurant and no ride in a nice car for her. NEVER , NEVER , show or give the best on the first date.
Interesting. I don't have much money at all at the moment (while I've done better in the past). I met my girl in this financial position and she's never cared at all. She wants to be with me and literally doesn't care who's paying for what. That makes me want to take care of her whether financially (when I can) or in other ways. Keeper.
This is so true.. After year of hits, misses, and downright strange first dates, I insist on dutch.. Some women have issues with that, and the reactions have been hilarious, at times.. But, I'm in it to find someone who likes me, and vice versa, and if that is a roadblock, I know this person isn't in it for the same reasons I am.. Besides, how many times have I gone out and paid, had a great time, and been totally blown off?.. Women, most anyways, are very particular, and if you do one little thing wrong in their eyes, on a first date, it can often be unrecoverable.. Meanwhile, if they would just stop to understand, just for a moment, that most of these guys are all over the place on a first date, just trying to be entertaining, but not too entertaining, engaged, but not too engaged, and so on.. lol.. It's not easy..
Everyone needs to be liberated. The pendulum swung too hard the other way for most men. I know, my brother and I talk about this. Allow yourself to be a man if that is what makes you feel good and allow the woman to be feminine because she may like it. If a woman is totally into you she won't care about fancy first dates but feel her out by being imaginative. Go to a park, a historical site, something different. Buy her a beverage and walk and talk. If she is into you, you don't have to spend a lot of cash and you are still a gentleman. Plus you have a great exit strategy if you think she is a gold digger. It doesn't have to be all or nothing or 50/50 right away.
roo7227 girls who are fine going Dutch tend to be more interesting and fun anyway. Open minded etc. if you insist on sticking to a script like these old traditional gender roles I can guarantee you are not an interesting or fun person. Don't get me wrong you can play these gender roles some times (and I have) but if you are rigid about it and can't do otherwise you are a slave to society (and an arguably old anachronistic one at that). Not likely that kind of person is fun or interesting.
NEVER GO TO DINNER ON A FIRST DATE. Half of my first dates have been walks in the park. 0$ spent. If you’re going to spend money, go get a coffee or 1 drink. If the girl is actually interested in you she will be more then willing. If she isn’t then she’s just using you.
This is great advice from Bill, but take it easy on the guy. He's young and is still learning to ignore the terrible advice that men often get in order to "be a gentleman."
Have you never heard of the D.E.N.N.I.S system bro?? Haha just kidding, but seriously I always take them out to coffee first, then get a feel for the connection and if things are right, then we'll go get dinner. Even better, if there's a pool hall down the street from the coffee shop take her there and show her how to play. This has always worked well w me and saves a shit ton of time and $.
in this story I can't blame the girl. He could very easily have used that opportunity to crack some kind of joke.. like if you play your cards right maybe one day I will buy you that stuff... That throws some pressure on her, and shows her he is not some lil bitch... instead she took a shot and got free stuff out of it. if you could get free stuff you would do the same, she tried she won, he should have shut that shit down, especially on a first date
I have quite literally been on this date before. I went into the ladies section of JC Penny (Victoria's Secret was a joke in the early 2000's) and started looking at the bra and panty section of the store and said, "We should see if you can find anything cute over here for me to buy for you to wear." See how fast her need to 'browse for stuff the likes' goes away.
Both men and women need to be careful to avoid gold diggers. I never wanted or allowed a guy to buy me anything like that. Later in a relationship I gave and received gifts for birthdays and holidays. But never was it a one way street. Be careful!
+theresa bollman Lol, "both men and women need to be careful to avoid gold diggers". LOLOLOLOLOL. Saying men have to watch out for gold diggers is like saying humans have to watch out for asteroids. Men know who gold diggers are and use and treat them like shit and know it. The only people that have to watch for gold diggers are men...please don't be childish.
+Nathan Rock Without trying to be rude, you are a bit hard to follow. On one hand you seem say men aren't fooled and use the gold diggers before they can use the men, but on the other hand you say men are the only ones who have to watch out for gold diggers. And why do you even think men don't hunt for women with better income than theirs or lovely homes, luxury cars, vacation homes etc.? I'm here to tell you they sure do. Watch shows like Unsolved Mysteries for a while. The scam artists looking for folks who have made good in life are most often men. When I was single I had to look 'em over real good. Lotsa con artists out there hoping to find a vulnerable woman with a nice bank account.
+theresa bollman They don't, it is much easier as women to use a guy financialy at any level from getting a date (like setting a dating website account) or marriage. Women have guys interested in them, guy have to work for that, either by showing to women or investing in himself.
Remember, first dates are important for both sexes. If a woman were to go down on the first day, you're not going to think highly of her. Same thing works the other way. You blow your entire bank account on the first date, that's all she's going to think about is "on the first date, you got me all these nice things! Now you don't want to spend $300 on me every night we're together!"
Here is a little tip for the guys. It's best to know when enough is enough, like movie or dinner, okay but other stuff like what this guy did, nope. Easy way to get out of it is to say like "I wish I could get that too" "it's very nice but very pricy (chuckle)" things like that. If a girl leaves because she thinks you can't afford it then fine. If she's hurt at all about you not getting it, fine. Depends on dates and positions also but first few dates, yeah take my advise. Try not to "flaunt" your money as well, act like your sort of "just getting by" ;)
All the times iv been out, it was always a trade-off ,first him , then me and so on never have I milked a guys wallet, honestly. I have three older brothers and iv seen how not to act.
Thanks, best of luck to you to! We all need that someone to complete us in life, all we can do is hope, some may or may not find it but no matter what, it is what it is, I guess
Or, perhaps, a woman could pay for the dinner and movie sometime...? I have a 50/50 policy, if a woman wants to be bought then I'll treat her as a whore. If I'm paying I'm seriously going to get something out of it. A woman, if she pays everything for me, then I'll be the whore. OOOOOR... Both of us pay together for our own mutual pleasure. When I was younger I was stupid enough to pay for my dates dinner, movie, or whatever it was... As Bill said, I set a precedence for me paying, which made them expect that I was paying every time. That made me lose respect for them being a cunt. (Men and female, it's not only females who do this crap.)
Here's how you go on a first date. Go out to eat, and let her know she's paying for her meal. If she complains, and threatens to leave you just saved yourself. If she eats, then complains, and says she won't/can't pay, ask you waiter for separate checks, pay for yours, and ditch the bitch. Honestly this is so simple, why do I hear so many of these kinds of stories about stupid men being taken advantage of by harpies?
I remember when me and my ex went to the Mall. He bought me shampoo and conditioner. He liked my hair. Now I am old, and I have to dye my hair and it makes my frozen hair brake off in the shower. (by the way beautiful doll, that was my mother favorite tereasa doll.) Anyway, I wishes my bush hair would grow so long. Ha ha What I am only human!
Dudes listen!!!! If it’s dinner. Go Mexican. Not a chain! Locally owned. Here’s why: Number 1: girls love Mexican food. Number 2: it’s cheap Number 3: it’s fast. So if you aren’t having fun, you can get out of there in less than an hour. If you are enjoying it, then order some more margs or head to the next place. Works like a charm.
Shopping on a first date?? Oh, tip: "I like this, I wish I could afford it." Great christmas or birthday gift. And don't expect anything on a first date.
You want to impress a lady? After you spend the night run across the street buy them eggs bacon and milk and cook them breakfast. Cheap, tasty, and it shows you have money and would make a good long-term boyfriend without having to buy a $100 dress. Boom. Done. As for getting to the bed I recommend art gallery and then dinner. Afterwards ask if they want to see a movie. Go to the theatre, say how nothing on is good, and then ask if they want to come over to your place and they could watch something on Megashare.
If you're not looking for a long-term relationship, NEVER bring them to your place, always go to theirs. Why? Because you have the option to leave whenever YOU want. Once you start bringing them over to your place, unless you have the gumption to tell them they have to leave when you want them to, they'll leave when they feel like it. Right off the bat, if she likes you, you'll find things like panties and other girlie items "accidentally" left behind in your domain. Never allow your territory to be marked unless you actually want a partnership with a particular someone.
Caleb Chavez Well, I've found gay guys know how to woo a lady (and a man) and give the best advice, so even though I'm heterosexual I accept the compliment.
I don't think it was a mistake to go out and then discuss what you'd want to do. But while it's a sweet sentiment to offer paying she shouldn't have taken him up on it. The few times I was on dates I paid for myself. Some guys found it insulting at first but I told them that I'm going out with them because I hope to enjoy their company not because I want to get something for free. Usually that earned me a little confused look, but after they thought it through most of them thought that it was one of the nicest things they've heard on a date - which is sad if you think about it. There was one guy who still insisted on paying for both of us and while I eventually gave in, it put a damper on the evening for me as I was forever worrying about the prices of my cocktails or whatever. (After paying in the first place, he wanted to show me his favourite cocktail place and I felt uncomfortable knowing he would again insist on paying but I didn't want to ditch him because it was still early and everything else was going good, I really liked him. The whole thing was just a bit weird.) I can kind of understand somebody paying for another person if there is a huge gap between the amount of money one person has compared to the other but it shouldn't be just because of some arbitrary shit like gender. Maybe I see things different because I'm bisexual and actually had dates with a few women as well and when you do that there's a whole different dynamic right from the start. Some girls think if they have been asked out the other person is paying but nothing is set in stone. Some people have told me it just doesn't feel like a date if you split the bill but then alternating who pays usually is a nice way to go. >>Oh, you're inviting me to see a movie. Great. Thanks. How about we get something to eat afterwards. My treat.
good fucking job. nothing worse then that "lets just be friends" after 2-3 dates. like ok then friends split the tab right mate? (insert hypocritical confused fake look) lol
@Jonathan Richards: I'm not sure if I get what you were trying to say there. I assume you are criticising girls/ women who let the boy/ man pay and expect that the invitations continue even after they already said that they don't want a romantic relationship. Did I understand that correctly?
Cheap date: take her to the beach, pay for parking, buy her an ice cream/latte drink then walk the beach for an hour and end the date. If she still wants to hang out during the first date you're in. If not then at least you only spend below 20 bucks.
My technique is very simple... first day - coffee shop Second date - a bar for some drinks , I’m only paying for drinks and setting the date time during those hours drinks are cheap asf Third date - my house, I’m cooking and if she doesn’t feel comfortable whatever that means I’m gonna ask her where she taking me next because I’m 100% done dating now is time to fuck... this works for me 98% of the time 2% is when I run into gold diggers
Have a game plan ahead of time and set a spending limit. Take cash (30 bucks past ur limit incase your car dies and u need to get home) and leave your credit card at the house. Try and stay away from the mall but if u go and she wants to go into a store to look at shoes, jewelry, etc. sit on the bench for a bit with the other guys or have her meet u at the ____ shop in a bit. Don't go shopping with her.
So many men make this mistake - especially younger guys. It's ingrained in us that you have to pay, and that paying will leading to a payoff (sex). You have to deprogram yourself from that because you'll never, ever get laid that way.
if you buy something for a woman also expect from her that she will also buy YOU something in return and the only reason for buying is GOOD BEHAVIOR from her if she doesnt respect you and if she doesnt cook and clean dont buy her shit.PERIOD!!!
Okay, here's the deal. A man has to pay for the first date. No getting around it. Decent women will at least offer to split, but you have to insist on paying it all. Some women will not budge and insist on splitting 50/50. It sounds crazy, but avoid those women like the plague. They all have some chip on their shoulder and will turn every single part of a relationship into a power struggle. The good news is that the guy is in total control on the venue. You must pay for the first date, but who says it has to be expensive? Dinner + a movie is THE WORST DATE IMAGINABLE unless you're already a couple. Dinner is expensive, it's boring, you're sitting across where you can't touch each other, and it fosters "job interview" conversation which is death to romance. Movies are 2 hours of not looking at the other person and not talking. How the hell are you supposed to romance each other over that? Go grab one or two drinks instead. Go walking around a bunch of shitty antique shops or flea market. Go for a picnic in the park. All of these are not only cheaper than dinner and a movie, but you get to know the person better. Any guy who chooses to do something expensive for a first date is a chump who has no one to blame but himself.
Forgot to add: after the first date, she has to pay for SOMETHING. The only thing is to never split things 50/50 but instead do a tit for tat thing. You out to a bar? Pay cover and the first round, let her buy the second round. Movie? Buy both tickets, let her buy the popcorn. If she's not willing to ever pay for ANYTHING, drop her. It shows she's of poor character and probably wasn't that into you anyway. Another huge red flag is when a girl insists on dinner for a first date. Like, you make plans for something casual like coffee or drinks but she keeps pushing for dinner. Cancel that date and never look back. She was only after a free restaurant meal.
That other comment had the right idea. The first date should always be a cup of coffee (or one drink at a bar). If it doesn't work, you can leave after only half an hour of your time and $3 spent. If it does work, you can segue from coffee into walking around a bunch of odd shops or people watching at the park. If a girl is into you, she won't care how much a date costs. And always, always go for the kiss at the end of the first date. There is no other surefire way to instantly find out if it's going anywhere.
Yes, they do. No, it doesn't change anything. The reason a guy can't get around paying for the first date is because women want the feeling of not worrying, that the guy they're going to be with is going to take care of things. If you split the bill, that feeling is squashed. It doesn't matter how much she makes. It's like saying that men shouldn't like big tits anymore because these days women are good for more than feeding babies. Yes, they are. No, men aren't going to stop liking big tits.
no thanks, if a girl wants her "feelings" validated, she can go find find someone else or get a cat. Quit rationalizing these old fashioned cheap gender roles.
I start the date by placing a stack of bills on the table. I tell my date that I will regularly remove one of the bills every few minutes until she agrees to have sex with me. Whatever is left goes to pay for the dinner and she has to pay for the rest of the bill. I tip the same basic way.
What about women fighting for equality? They want to be treated the same as men in society. Oh well, then pay for the dinner, pay for the movie, put effort into making the date a nice experience, compliment us. Why not, you are equal right?!
Yes, i know what you are saying. They fuck so much with your brain that when it's a breakup, they say" You changed, you are not the guy i used to love before".
I'd have said "I can't buy that for you but try it on anyway if you want." Then, if she liked the dress, go back to the store by myself, buy the dress and then surprise her on the following date at the house.
Dinner, ok,it's a nice gesture, but that girl should have never accepted those clothing items! She should have felt insulted if you even suggested paying for them! She's no good. Do not ask her out again!
Haha when he just said "....Oh my god..." I burst out laughing. His reaction was so perfect.
With the $120 you could buy 2.5 prostitutes for an hour.
Don't pay to play! Week men pay for free shit!
@@nehpetssaid you dont pay to play. you pay for time saved.
2.5? Is the third one Lieutenant Dan?
Alex B haha facts
Where Detroit
i remember taking a girl on a first date to a tea house and a movie, than she said she wanted "friendly relationship" whatever that means, than i said: ok, then you pay next time, she said WHAT? Strangely we didn't go out more together.
searcherer wow. That's bold (on her part).
She should pay next time regardless. I mean, are women fucking adults or what?
That's the fastest I've ever heard bill read.....ever.
Take it easy on this guy. He is young and inexperienced. There are far more costly lessons you have to learn in life. Mistakes are fine- as long as you learn from them. Like some guys have said:
1.) Coffee. You pay first time. Next time (if) - she pays.
2.) Nice pleasant conversation - look her straight in the eyes, smile.
3.) Let her talk - do not dominate the conversation, but also be very direct.
4.) You will know after 30 minutes if it is going anywhere or not.
5.) Worse come to worse you are out maybe $25, some gas $ and your time. There are worse ways to spend your time. If anything, it will start to hone in your skills.
Great advice, I've done more embarrassing things. Go out for drinks not meals and avoid shops
Patrice O'Neal would've DESTROYED that guy.
hAHahHAHahA !!
"well maybe you ought to work some overtime this week" replayed 20 times
I'm gonna use that one on dates
The goal of all dates is to spend as little as possible. Spending extra money does not really help a man, and you will usually be placed in the friend zone quickly.
Honestly I went through this same thing when I went out with this hot girl at 16. I was so desperate to impress her that I ended up spending 300 bucks on the very first date because we went to the mall. Then on our second date when I told her I just wanted to go to the movies and get something to eat and that I didn't have the money to buy some extra stuff she needed she dropped me like a bag of potatoes. Didn't respond to my calls, didn't acknowledge me at school, brushed me off, it was humiliating. That was my first real taste at how vindictive and self-entitled women can be and what it means to be a woman's whipped little bitch.
Bill could talk all day about algebra, and nuclear science... AND STILL BE BADASS HILARIOUS!!
way to go Bill im going to your show in the Montreal Metropolis in March!!!!!
"Stop going across enemy lines" LMAO
Thank God people like Bill Burr exist!
that s why you test a girl first. So first date I go that way
1 cheap
2 no car ,we take the bus
and if the bitch doesn't like it , I don't care because no second date , so no nice restaurant and no ride in a nice car for her.
NEVER , NEVER , show or give the best on the first date.
Brian Mcbrian So true Brien. Screen the girl, see what she is like.
MishaZip I can't believe you misspelled his name.
Robert William
yeah. me too, Rupert.
I usually give my best when she already knows I won't give my best
Interesting. I don't have much money at all at the moment (while I've done better in the past). I met my girl in this financial position and she's never cared at all. She wants to be with me and literally doesn't care who's paying for what. That makes me want to take care of her whether financially (when I can) or in other ways. Keeper.
$120 bucks...."and that was it"...LOL.
I love Bill Burr's advice on women.
This is so true.. After year of hits, misses, and downright strange first dates, I insist on dutch.. Some women have issues with that, and the reactions have been hilarious, at times.. But, I'm in it to find someone who likes me, and vice versa, and if that is a roadblock, I know this person isn't in it for the same reasons I am..
Besides, how many times have I gone out and paid, had a great time, and been totally blown off?.. Women, most anyways, are very particular, and if you do one little thing wrong in their eyes, on a first date, it can often be unrecoverable.. Meanwhile, if they would just stop to understand, just for a moment, that most of these guys are all over the place on a first date, just trying to be entertaining, but not too entertaining, engaged, but not too engaged, and so on.. lol.. It's not easy..
Everyone needs to be liberated. The pendulum swung too hard the other way for most men. I know, my brother and I talk about this. Allow yourself to be a man if that is what makes you feel good and allow the woman to be feminine because she may like it. If a woman is totally into you she won't care about fancy first dates but feel her out by being imaginative. Go to a park, a historical site, something different. Buy her a beverage and walk and talk. If she is into you, you don't have to spend a lot of cash and you are still a gentleman. Plus you have a great exit strategy if you think she is a gold digger. It doesn't have to be all or nothing or 50/50 right away.
Whoever asks the other person out should pay. It's their idea. Doesn't matter if you're a guy or a girl.
roo7227 girls who are fine going Dutch tend to be more interesting and fun anyway. Open minded etc. if you insist on sticking to a script like these old traditional gender roles I can guarantee you are not an interesting or fun person. Don't get me wrong you can play these gender roles some times (and I have) but if you are rigid about it and can't do otherwise you are a slave to society (and an arguably old anachronistic one at that). Not likely that kind of person is fun or interesting.
NEVER GO TO DINNER ON A FIRST DATE. Half of my first dates have been walks in the park. 0$ spent. If you’re going to spend money, go get a coffee or 1 drink. If the girl is actually interested in you she will be more then willing. If she isn’t then she’s just using you.
I'd love to hear Nia's take on this. I bet even she would be like "work on your confidence, sir".
Good on you Bill, sticking up for the little guy. Set these boys straight.
this is good advice man! this is good adivce!
This is great advice from Bill, but take it easy on the guy. He's young and is still learning to ignore the terrible advice that men often get in order to "be a gentleman."
Have you never heard of the D.E.N.N.I.S system bro?? Haha just kidding, but seriously I always take them out to coffee first, then get a feel for the connection and if things are right, then we'll go get dinner. Even better, if there's a pool hall down the street from the coffee shop take her there and show her how to play. This has always worked well w me and saves a shit ton of time and $.
in this story I can't blame the girl. He could very easily have used that opportunity to crack some kind of joke.. like if you play your cards right maybe one day I will buy you that stuff... That throws some pressure on her, and shows her he is not some lil bitch... instead she took a shot and got free stuff out of it. if you could get free stuff you would do the same, she tried she won, he should have shut that shit down, especially on a first date
I have quite literally been on this date before. I went into the ladies section of JC Penny (Victoria's Secret was a joke in the early 2000's) and started looking at the bra and panty section of the store and said, "We should see if you can find anything cute over here for me to buy for you to wear."
See how fast her need to 'browse for stuff the likes' goes away.
well said
As soon as she said "I wish I had money to buy this or that" you shoudlve side stepped that into another question
Burr has the game nailed.
"Thats right, that's right.'"
Ooooooooooooh jeyshushh
Damm right
Both men and women need to be careful to avoid gold diggers. I never wanted or allowed a guy to buy me anything like that. Later in a relationship I gave and received gifts for birthdays and holidays. But never was it a one way street. Be careful!
+theresa bollman Right. I'll write that down. Do piss off.
+Vertical Horizon Nasty people like you are so sad. Sad and alone.
+theresa bollman Lol, "both men and women need to be careful to avoid gold diggers". LOLOLOLOLOL. Saying men have to watch out for gold diggers is like saying humans have to watch out for asteroids. Men know who gold diggers are and use and treat them like shit and know it. The only people that have to watch for gold diggers are men...please don't be childish.
+Nathan Rock Without trying to be rude, you are a bit hard to follow. On one hand you seem say men aren't fooled and use the gold diggers before they can use the men, but on the other hand you say men are the only ones who have to watch out for gold diggers. And why do you even think men don't hunt for women with better income than theirs or lovely homes, luxury cars, vacation homes etc.? I'm here to tell you they sure do. Watch shows like Unsolved Mysteries for a while. The scam artists looking for folks who have made good in life are most often men. When I was single I had to look 'em over real good. Lotsa con artists out there hoping to find a vulnerable woman with a nice bank account.
+theresa bollman They don't, it is much easier as women to use a guy financialy at any level from getting a date (like setting a dating website account) or marriage. Women have guys interested in them, guy have to work for that, either by showing to women or investing in himself.
Never go to the Mooooll for the first date. That's like walking through a minefield
"That's right that's right"
ahaahah
Remember, first dates are important for both sexes.
If a woman were to go down on the first day, you're not going to think highly of her. Same thing works the other way. You blow your entire bank account on the first date, that's all she's going to think about is "on the first date, you got me all these nice things! Now you don't want to spend $300 on me every night we're together!"
What a sap. This was a classic case of a woman being a resource extractor.
mcoffely He was quite naive.
Riad A No, he's stupid as fuck.
Riad A na, he's a fucking moron.
Here is a little tip for the guys. It's best to know when enough is enough, like movie or dinner, okay but other stuff like what this guy did, nope. Easy way to get out of it is to say like "I wish I could get that too" "it's very nice but very pricy (chuckle)" things like that. If a girl leaves because she thinks you can't afford it then fine. If she's hurt at all about you not getting it, fine. Depends on dates and positions also but first few dates, yeah take my advise. Try not to "flaunt" your money as well, act like your sort of "just getting by" ;)
Where are all these strong independent women that should be paying for the movie and dinner? Its 2014.
Right here! I'll take you out! ;)
All the times iv been out, it was always a trade-off ,first him , then me and so on never have I milked a guys wallet, honestly. I have three older brothers and iv seen how not to act.
Thanks, best of luck to you to! We all need that someone to complete us in life, all we can do is hope, some may or may not find it but no matter what, it is what it is, I guess
Or, perhaps, a woman could pay for the dinner and movie sometime...? I have a 50/50 policy, if a woman wants to be bought then I'll treat her as a whore. If I'm paying I'm seriously going to get something out of it. A woman, if she pays everything for me, then I'll be the whore. OOOOOR... Both of us pay together for our own mutual pleasure. When I was younger I was stupid enough to pay for my dates dinner, movie, or whatever it was... As Bill said, I set a precedence for me paying, which made them expect that I was paying every time. That made me lose respect for them being a cunt. (Men and female, it's not only females who do this crap.)
Pope of Greenwich Village A+
lmaaooo
Here's how you go on a first date.
Go out to eat, and let her know she's paying for her meal.
If she complains, and threatens to leave you just saved yourself.
If she eats, then complains, and says she won't/can't pay, ask you waiter for separate checks, pay for yours, and ditch the bitch.
Honestly this is so simple, why do I hear so many of these kinds of stories about stupid men being taken advantage of by harpies?
I remember when me and my ex went to the Mall. He bought me shampoo and conditioner. He liked my hair. Now I am old, and I have to dye my hair and it makes my frozen hair brake off in the shower. (by the way beautiful doll, that was my mother favorite tereasa doll.) Anyway, I wishes my bush hair would grow so long. Ha ha
What I am only human!
Dudes listen!!!!
If it’s dinner. Go Mexican. Not a chain! Locally owned. Here’s why:
Number 1: girls love Mexican food.
Number 2: it’s cheap
Number 3: it’s fast. So if you aren’t having fun, you can get out of there in less than an hour. If you are enjoying it, then order some more margs or head to the next place.
Works like a charm.
lmaooooooo That is worthy of simp of the year.
$120!!! I remember I barely had $20 at a time in college
1:48 ROFL!!
This guy is just sad.
Unreal sad! WTF!!??
Just young and stupid
Bill Burr speaks for dudes everywhere.
omg
I do first dates in places that either cost nothing or very little.
Shopping on a first date??
Oh, tip: "I like this, I wish I could afford it." Great christmas or birthday gift.
And don't expect anything on a first date.
Dating expense is a good warmup to marriage expense. Kids are really expensive.
lol... too funny
Tragic Bronson😂😂😂
0:47 - 1:10 hahahahah
You want to impress a lady? After you spend the night run across the street buy them eggs bacon and milk and cook them breakfast. Cheap, tasty, and it shows you have money and would make a good long-term boyfriend without having to buy a $100 dress. Boom. Done. As for getting to the bed I recommend art gallery and then dinner. Afterwards ask if they want to see a movie. Go to the theatre, say how nothing on is good, and then ask if they want to come over to your place and they could watch something on Megashare.
If you're not looking for a long-term relationship, NEVER bring them to your place, always go to theirs. Why? Because you have the option to leave whenever YOU want. Once you start bringing them over to your place, unless you have the gumption to tell them they have to leave when you want them to, they'll leave when they feel like it. Right off the bat, if she likes you, you'll find things like panties and other girlie items "accidentally" left behind in your domain. Never allow your territory to be marked unless you actually want a partnership with a particular someone.
Megashare and chill?
+DabTime lol you beat me to it!
+Patrick Edward Brown
you are so right, don't ever bring them to your place...until you know they won't burn the place down......
........or worse.
Caleb Chavez Well, I've found gay guys know how to woo a lady (and a man) and give the best advice, so even though I'm heterosexual I accept the compliment.
Hahaha HARSH! But Bill Burr put it nicely :)
On a date, if YOU ask HER out, YOU pay. If SHE asks YOU out SHE pays. No extras! You want it equal Ladies? Here's equal, suck it up.
I don't think it was a mistake to go out and then discuss what you'd want to do.
But while it's a sweet sentiment to offer paying she shouldn't have taken him up on it.
The few times I was on dates I paid for myself. Some guys found it insulting at first but I told them that I'm going out with them because I hope to enjoy their company not because I want to get something for free. Usually that earned me a little confused look, but after they thought it through most of them thought that it was one of the nicest things they've heard on a date - which is sad if you think about it.
There was one guy who still insisted on paying for both of us and while I eventually gave in, it put a damper on the evening for me as I was forever worrying about the prices of my cocktails or whatever. (After paying in the first place, he wanted to show me his favourite cocktail place and I felt uncomfortable knowing he would again insist on paying but I didn't want to ditch him because it was still early and everything else was going good, I really liked him. The whole thing was just a bit weird.)
I can kind of understand somebody paying for another person if there is a huge gap between the amount of money one person has compared to the other but it shouldn't be just because of some arbitrary shit like gender.
Maybe I see things different because I'm bisexual and actually had dates with a few women as well and when you do that there's a whole different dynamic right from the start. Some girls think if they have been asked out the other person is paying but nothing is set in stone.
Some people have told me it just doesn't feel like a date if you split the bill but then alternating who pays usually is a nice way to go. >>Oh, you're inviting me to see a movie. Great. Thanks. How about we get something to eat afterwards. My treat.
good fucking job. nothing worse then that "lets just be friends" after 2-3 dates. like ok then friends split the tab right mate? (insert hypocritical confused fake look) lol
@Jonathan Richards:
I'm not sure if I get what you were trying to say there. I assume you are criticising girls/ women who let the boy/ man pay and expect that the invitations continue even after they already said that they don't want a romantic relationship. Did I understand that correctly?
empowered woman = I CAN RESTART A COMPUTER. thanks feminism and barbie.
Cheap date: take her to the beach, pay for parking, buy her an ice cream/latte drink then walk the beach for an hour and end the date. If she still wants to hang out during the first date you're in. If not then at least you only spend below 20 bucks.
My technique is very simple... first day - coffee shop
Second date - a bar for some drinks , I’m only paying for drinks and setting the date time during those hours drinks are cheap asf
Third date - my house, I’m cooking and if she doesn’t feel comfortable whatever that means I’m gonna ask her where she taking me next because I’m 100% done dating now is time to fuck... this works for me 98% of the time 2% is when I run into gold diggers
Your hand is free...
Some lessons cost $120
Have a game plan ahead of time and set a spending limit. Take cash (30 bucks past ur limit incase your car dies and u need to get home) and leave your credit card at the house. Try and stay away from the mall but if u go and she wants to go into a store to look at shoes, jewelry, etc. sit on the bench for a bit with the other guys or have her meet u at the ____ shop in a bit. Don't go shopping with her.
Dont go to the mall on a first date!!!!
So many men make this mistake - especially younger guys. It's ingrained in us that you have to pay, and that paying will leading to a payoff (sex). You have to deprogram yourself from that because you'll never, ever get laid that way.
Poor guy. He needs to take the red pill 💊
Pay for dinner fine, having a first date at the mall? Where do I begin???
This guy should subscribe to Leykis 101.
classic case of book sense not being equal to street sense
if you buy something for a woman also expect from her that she will also buy YOU something in return and the only reason for buying is GOOD BEHAVIOR from her if she doesnt respect you and if she doesnt cook and clean dont buy her shit.PERIOD!!!
OH man.....
Make dinner together on the first date
Okay, here's the deal. A man has to pay for the first date. No getting around it. Decent women will at least offer to split, but you have to insist on paying it all. Some women will not budge and insist on splitting 50/50. It sounds crazy, but avoid those women like the plague. They all have some chip on their shoulder and will turn every single part of a relationship into a power struggle.
The good news is that the guy is in total control on the venue. You must pay for the first date, but who says it has to be expensive? Dinner + a movie is THE WORST DATE IMAGINABLE unless you're already a couple. Dinner is expensive, it's boring, you're sitting across where you can't touch each other, and it fosters "job interview" conversation which is death to romance. Movies are 2 hours of not looking at the other person and not talking. How the hell are you supposed to romance each other over that?
Go grab one or two drinks instead. Go walking around a bunch of shitty antique shops or flea market. Go for a picnic in the park. All of these are not only cheaper than dinner and a movie, but you get to know the person better. Any guy who chooses to do something expensive for a first date is a chump who has no one to blame but himself.
Forgot to add: after the first date, she has to pay for SOMETHING. The only thing is to never split things 50/50 but instead do a tit for tat thing. You out to a bar? Pay cover and the first round, let her buy the second round. Movie? Buy both tickets, let her buy the popcorn.
If she's not willing to ever pay for ANYTHING, drop her. It shows she's of poor character and probably wasn't that into you anyway. Another huge red flag is when a girl insists on dinner for a first date. Like, you make plans for something casual like coffee or drinks but she keeps pushing for dinner. Cancel that date and never look back. She was only after a free restaurant meal.
That other comment had the right idea. The first date should always be a cup of coffee (or one drink at a bar). If it doesn't work, you can leave after only half an hour of your time and $3 spent. If it does work, you can segue from coffee into walking around a bunch of odd shops or people watching at the park. If a girl is into you, she won't care how much a date costs.
And always, always go for the kiss at the end of the first date. There is no other surefire way to instantly find out if it's going anywhere.
woman make money now. let them pay for their own things.
Yes, they do. No, it doesn't change anything.
The reason a guy can't get around paying for the first date is because women want the feeling of not worrying, that the guy they're going to be with is going to take care of things. If you split the bill, that feeling is squashed. It doesn't matter how much she makes.
It's like saying that men shouldn't like big tits anymore because these days women are good for more than feeding babies. Yes, they are. No, men aren't going to stop liking big tits.
no thanks, if a girl wants her "feelings" validated, she can go find find someone else or get a cat.
Quit rationalizing these old fashioned cheap gender roles.
"See, you fucked yourself." Words you never wanna hear from Bill Burr.
I start the date by placing a stack of bills on the table. I tell my date that I will regularly remove one of the bills every few minutes until she agrees to have sex with me. Whatever is left goes to pay for the dinner and she has to pay for the rest of the bill.
I tip the same basic way.
hahahahahahaha
Step 0: Don't get married.
Why would you go on a date in the first place? It just seems like the worst thing ever.
What about women fighting for equality? They want to be treated the same as men in society. Oh well, then pay for the dinner, pay for the movie, put effort into making the date a nice experience, compliment us. Why not, you are equal right?!
Yes, i know what you are saying. They fuck so much with your brain that when it's a breakup, they say" You changed, you are not the guy i used to love before".
I had dates where my girlfriend paid for the both of us. She was richer than me.
I would have started inquiring into her employment situation. The guy is a sap.
Treat women like shit, and you'll come to find that some actually like that.
Does a lion ask a gazelle how to hunt a gazelle?
all of sudden you're making decisions and all of a sudden shes taking her pants off.
This guy lives in the middle east...
Never go shopping on a date. Don't even pay her too many compliments, if you don't like being a doormat. Girls don't really like that, anyway.
I will buy dinner. I will not finace a shopping spree on the first date. No way. Im totally sympathetic to women but that's just user behavior.
Bruh!!!!! You trickin money on the first date?!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃👎🏿
ughh! this kid is an imbicial. bill burr is a god.
Maybe she thought he was her sugar daddy?
Be careful Dexter the Grammar Nazi's are around!
noooooo, can't believe he bought her all that shit.
I took a chick to Disneyland..Full day of me spending every single dime.....She held my hand once on "Dumbo".......
LOL!!!
I'd have said "I can't buy that for you but try it on anyway if you want." Then, if she liked the dress, go back to the store by myself, buy the dress and then surprise her on the following date at the house.
Ask a lesbian friend.
so sad
This is just sad
WTF?
gay
Cringe worthy