Jocko Podcast 219 w/ Rose Schindler: Auschwitz Survivor. Never Give Up Hope.
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0:00:00 - Opening
0:06:12 - Intro to Rose Schindler. Two Who Survived, by Rose and Max Schindler: amzn.to/32OK9KB
2:39:22 - Final thoughts and take-aways.
2:44:21 - How to stay on THE PATH.
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3:05:01 - Closing Gratitude.
Holy crap. I once met this lady. Around 2012, I started to work in security and I took a one time over night job at a senior living housing facility. It turned out the job was simply to stay in the elderly woman's living room all night while she slept because she was a holocaust survivor and had serious fear and PTSD. Having someone staying up and keeping guard allowed her to sleep at night.
I had brought a book to read over the night, but after talking to Rose and getting to know her a little, she gave me a large stack of papers to read. This turned out to be her autobiography and a lot of what is being talked about in this video seems very familiar to me. I read through the story the entire 10 hours that I was there and was sad when my shift was over because I was unable to finish the whole story in time. I am just now realizing that I was reading an early draft of this book. I feel extremely lucky to have been able to meet Rose and her her story.
I thank her for making sure that this story makes is out to as many people as possible. I am also heart broken for her knowing how much these terrible experiences effected her for her whole life.
I am a USMC infantry veteran of OIF and know a thing or 2 about PTSD and traumatic experiences....but everything just pales in comparison to the experiences that Rose and many like her were forced to endure.
Even though I only met her that one time, she left a lasting impression on me and I have told her story many times. Thanks for bringing this story to such a wide audience Jocko.
that was a meant to be moment
Pics or it didnt happen
Jk
That's amazing! What a story.
Sir Grumples heavy.
This is why Jokko is such a great interviewer. He NEVER interrupts his guests, is always polite. Hell of a man. Great podcast, say here weeping at work and not ashamed of it. We should never forget.
I’m a little less than halfway through. About an hour I had to skip about thirty seconds when the gas chamber victims got really graphic for me. I wanted to cry or scream I was so horrified. I’m a sensitive person.
Do not apologize.
What a gentleman he is here. He just lets her talk and she seems quite comfortable to speak. He is clearly affected but he wants to conduct the best interview possible, so he continues on when he doesn’t know what to say. He gulps he takes the water.
I am waiting for this guy to break down or get really upset hearing this. I really don’t know how he does it because I’ve got no military experience or anything but I wish sometimes I wasn’t a sensitive person.
But yeah he was so good to Rose. That’s part of what is keeping me going through this. Whole new level of respect for Jocko
@@MalloryNewcomb I was also thinking for 88-90 years old she's very with it, very articulate and remembers every thing. Breaks my heart...you can tell the number one thing that bothered her was everyone (the world) knew and no one did anything
Kyle Allen
Maybe that level of memory is not universal but I have it for events that really made an impact on me: I started going to a Christian summer camp at 14 that changed my life. I could tell the other staff members (4-8 years later) about stories they totally forgot.... because that stuff meant so much to me. I think that girls (and maybe boys too but idk what it’s like to be a boy) in their teens are quite vulnerable, vigilant and capable of really strong memory.
She IS very with it for 90! I didn’t know how old she was. I have for once not looked up outside source information about Rose while watching this. (Sure I looked up stuff about the camps she mentions and Anne Frank but not her... maybe I just want her story to stand alone? Anyway)
I got to the part where she is about to find out the fate of her family and I just couldn’t continue.
It is interesting how she reacts. There is a dignity to it all. But it is not anger: it’s pain and sadness. Even 70 something years later she is occasionally crying. Very astute observation: she has said time and time again “where was the world when all this was happening?” She talked about the persecution she suffered at home and even with that wondering “where was the world?” and it’s hard to imagine how the adults around her said to stay quiet.
@@MalloryNewcomb
M 10to
Not to mention what a great damn verbal reader he is
My daughter is 14.
As I listened to this, I imagined her having to go through all of this pain.
We must never forget these brave people who endured this tragedy.
I have been close to tears listening to the entire podcast imagining knowing my daughter was in that camp with me. It's just unfathomable.
In 2005 my sophomore year in high school, we read a book called "night" another holocaust survivor eli wiezel (spell check) these stories are gistory and shall never be forgotten
@@TzUuup www.eliewieseltattoo.com/elie-admits-his-true-stories-never-happened/ his name is phonetically lie weasel. Think about it.
I feel sorry that your daughter has parents that would just believe the same things they were taught, instead of investigating things independently. Victors write the history. And the most important parts of human history, are destroyed.
JC Harris we must also remember to never allow something like this the happen again. All these blue hair antifa retards call people nazis and the people they call nazis are nothing of the sort. Just like these asinine comments above mines. If a REAL nazi appears we won't know what to call him. Those of us who are true to God, Family, and Country must be sure to always remain vigilant.
Well looks like I cant complain about anything for the rest of my life. Wow.
Hopefully that’s just a joke. Everybody has their challenges in life; the challenges of others do not make yours any less valid.
Paul’s Garage That’s the perfect takeaway from this podcast. We have very little to complain about in life. If something is wrong find out how to fix it. Complaining is the path to helplessness.
@@adamb8317 That's a rather silly way to look at life, though. Someone _always_ has it worse than you. Even in Ms. Schindler's case, there were people who were worse off than she was in the camps (her survival likely has to do with the fact that she was a young, able-bodied person at the time when she was dragged from her home and sent to that man-made hell).
Also, some things that are wrong in your life *cannot be fixed.* Rather, what you should say is that you should either figure out how to fix those things *or learn to adapt to them.* As for complaining, have you ever heard that it's a soldier's right and privilige to gripe, or have you ever heard military men talking about "the suck?" Everybody complains. The difference between the person who triumphs and those who are left behind is that the former know when to put a lid on the negativity, pick themselves up, and start moving forward--not that they never complain, gripe, or groan.
If you can say that you've never remarked about how much a particular situation sucks, then you must be one of the following:
- A terrible liar
- High on drugs nearly 24/7
- Blessed with so cushy and easy a life that you are living each day in an earthly paradise
GOOD
Its a real downer, I had some great complaints to do soon myself.
In some ways, this is probably the first guest who I'd dare to say is Tougher than Jocko.
It's one thing to voluntarily put yourself into an Elite Unit like the SEALs and suffer all that comes with it on your own terms.
It's another to be involuntarily forced into suffering through no fault of your own and come out the other side.
Don't worry Rose, there are many of us that Read, Watch and Listen - we do not forget the Horrors that Man has inflicted upon Man, we tell the stories to our children with the hope that they will heed the warnings of History and never again.
American Jew-worship is strong here
Guys, it's just hyperbole to say something to the effect of "this woman is really tough".
I think there’s a video rolling around in the inter-webs of her schooling Jocko in Jui Jitsu and even made him tap out 🤣😂
@@joeevora1674 I'd watch the shit out of that.
MajesticDemonLord well said
“Tomorrow will be better....” Enough said
Exactly
Let’s just enjoy everything boys.
You can hear the anger in jockos sighs, him thinking “The warrior in me wishes I was there to help”
1:09:17
He knows exactly where the allied forces were. And how many of them were literally dying to help.
John Banks Nazi soldiers were weak not badass dimwit. I’m a pretty apathetic person. But for someone to write this bullshit after watching this video is unsettling. This is not the time to make jokes or spew garbage from your big lips or fingers.
@John Banks that was cute, maybe one day you'll turn into a man.
I can relate...
Calling ppl Nazis nowadays just because u disagree with them politically, seriously downplays what the real Nazis done
I made almost the exact same comment twice on here, and was flagged for hate speech...
Crazy part is the ones that are calling people Nazis are voting for and supporting socialism...
Such confusinvly embarrassing times we live in.
what have they done boomer?
And yet, there is a growing faction of people who are supportive or downplay the atrocities that the nazis have committed.
As a child and young adult
I was taught of the numerical tattoos given to them during imprisonment.
Being it was the 70's I've met several dozen survivors.
I didn't go out of my way
But I always said " it is truly good to see you and have you here" .
The true look of joy on their faces by simply being recognized was always amazing to me.
The one that harkens the largest memory for me was an elderly woman that caught me staring at the tattoo in line at a grocery store.
I asked her if I could give her a hug
She , with tears in her eyes said " yes please" so during our simple embrace.
Whispered in my ear
" thank you there are days I feel forgotten"
Even as a teenager it struck me hard
After our hug,
I loaded her groceries onto the track to be ahead of me and the woman ahead of me.
And simply said to her
Humanity can never forget what happened,
if we do it is a mistake we may never recover from.
Your comment gave me tears.
Hart warming. 2021 is a dangerous time to be in. Looks like people have indeed forgotten
❤️
Jocko this is so powerful, so heartbreaking. I’m 58 years old, a father and a grandfather. A 20 year Army Veteran. A free and proud American. . I consider myself a strong, decent man. But I’m in tears as I listen to this. Thank you for this. May we never forget.
Everyone needs to hear this podcast. There's good on this world but also evil. Thank you for sharing Rose and Jocko.
Dejan Gajsek respect
Jocko should read the take us and also study Jesus Christ
I think everyone needs to hear this. Especially today with everything going on
Always watching for evil, even in myself
This woman is an absolute treasure. Thank you Jocko for helping her get her story out there. Everyone needs to hear this.
I agree with you, what a pity party. All they had to do was apologize for Jesus but they let the madness continue. What a disgusting people.
"Never give them your soul."
@Sniper .308 Urah!
Rose's father was an extremely wise man. -- Tata repeats his solumn advice to each of us, "Do your best to stay together, stay alive, so you can tell the world what they are doing to us." implanted in her the absolute conviction she was going to survive and it served as the guiding force that dictated her focus to do just that! Now, thankfully, she is sharing what was done. I am humbled and I am ashamed that I have let, now seeing things as seemingly so small, hurdles stop me from moving forward in my own life. Deeply grateful for your podcast, this interview, and Rose's aliveness.
Do not be ashamed. Just acknowledge, and as the big guy keeps saying, "Get after it."
@@colinmiller2041 Thank you! Right after I read your reply, I received a promo text with those exact words. I guess the motto of the day is "Get After It!"
@@silverstarmw thats always the motto 👍
As a first responder that struggles daily , I wanna say thank you for these podcasts keeps me humble and keeps me going , and puts REAL life issues back into the playing field so I'm not consumed or so focused on my own little world much thanks gentlemen and to your guests we all appreciate your efforts
Give it your hardest every day never give up and thank you
ff/p here. couldn't say it better. listen to this podcast going to and coming from shift
Same boat bro. Small things after 5 years have kept me nose to the grind stone cause I dont know anyone else that's going to step up to the plate.
It’s ok if you’re still struggling. Don’t be afraid to get help. What you’re doing is very important. We hear you and thank you for your service. 🙏🏻
@@ellisfield159 me and my friend are part of a organization that helps first responders get rid of stress on fly fishing trips in crowsnest Alberta Canada if your interested in a big trip my friend handles those more ppl and I do the small one and one sessions not trying to fix anything overnight but relax and fish and eat among friends
The Dichotomy of toughness is really on display with the juxtaposition of Jocko and Rose on the podcast.
@Texas Outlaw Ehh? I'm pretty sure she would comprehend evil a damn sight better than you or I would, friendo. I can only speak from theoretical (and secondhand) experience, but there is really little "incomprehensible" about that sort of evil--the most terrifying aspect is that the men who committed such deeds were, for the most part, _not_ particularly monstrous in appearance nor mentally ill by any stretch of the word. These were ordinary men who were just "doing a job" or "following orders."
Remember that that sort of evil is not exceptional in any way--every man has the potential for that sort of wickedness within his soul, just as we have the potential to be as saintly as Peter the Apostle or Francis of Assisi. It all comes down to our personal moral compasses and the choices we make, as well as whether we love Christ with all our hearts and strive to truly follow His teachings or only stamp Gott mit Uns on our belt buckles and "In God We Trust" on our coins whilst loyally upholding a system of beliefs that is an affront to God and human dignity.
Best comment of the podcast....
"Well, you're not perfect.... But you are great."
Jocko's podcast will be just as relevant years from now. Jocko searches out the old historical treasures that live among us to save their voices and experiences. Should be required listening.
No idea why this women's not been on JRE yet
Tom Wallhead Joe rogan doesnt cover these sort of difficult topics, would rather just about weed and eating elk
I've never been much of a doer, but have been working two jobs since 2012 to pay the bills. My dad, football coach of 40+ years, passed at 84 in May. I literally have Jkopod listed as an item on my habit app five days a week, in an attempt to immerse myself in strength, hoping it will transform me.
Thanks Jocko.. I'm a veteran and a stay at home dad. I listened to this podcast while my girls were taking their naps.. and when they woke I hugged them more than I have ever hugged them after hearing you read what happened to that enormously courageous woman and her sisters. And the thought of that happening to them enraged me and made me even more determined to prepare them to handle themselves in the most dire of situations.. this story was intense, horrific and beautiful and I damn near cried tears of anger and sadness several times. It also helped me get perspective on some of my own personal shit I'm going through.. Thank you Sir for podcasts like these. You're the man.
Glad you gained perspective brother
Cause you can't truly take care of someone without caring for yourself.
I wish you all the best in your venture with the princess's.
@Univac AI what a stupid comment
Anyone upset with 2020, just know, it's a hell of a lot better than 1939.
Wise words my friend
For the moment. our masks are the yellow stars.
Depends on what side you were on
@@chrismckechnie6885 and relatively few realize that, yet.
2020 is even better then 1929(stock market crash)
But it's still ok to complain
“I was excited to go on a train for the first time”
That’s absolutely chilling to hear knowing the aftermath. How many children that were excited to go on a train back then, not knowing it was taking them to their death.
The love of a child is trust. There is no greater evil than the betrayal of that trust.
aporiac It’s so admirable how she put all that in the past and went on to have a successful/ happy life in America. I don’t think people understand just how difficult that is
@@BostonsF1nest To make your life about love is the only response, but you are right - that must be the hardest thing in the world. She is a living prayer for human beings.
Even seeing this before hearing it, I was not ready for that part.
She was *excited*. Like how kids get excited to go to Disneyland if they live a few hours away or something like that.
That is terrifying. It makes the evil that happened there even more maddening when you hear the survivors. It’s different than a story of a group of people told in a textbook. This is someone who this is just as real as the events of my life and did not know where that story would end.
I came home from a rough day at work pissed off at everyone, stumbled across this and it entirely shifted my perspective. Powerful message. Thank you.
Its tough to see that the only thing that caused her to begin crying is hearing about her husband's family. She stayed strong through the conversation of her own, but cried hearing about Max's family being killed.
I was so bummed, sad, angry, regretful the entire time. Once she began to weep, there was no way that I couldn't start bawling right alongside. It is almost too much to deal with, comprehend, or understand. At the very lease we've all listened.
My Uncle Ed was one of the soldiers who went in and liberated a prison camp. He rarely spoke of this and I only learned about it after he passed. His brother. my Uncle Clarence, told us about it and the horror he found when they arrived. The people were so thin and starved that there were many they could not save with food because they were too far gone. My uncle told of the desparate attempt to save these men in the camp and going and stealing food from neighboring farms to feed any survivors. He said they lost so many after arriving when trying to feed them. It was such a heart wrenching story. Anyone who survived these camps are made of steel and we need to hear their stories over and over again.
As she shows the tattoo , Echo let’s out a ‘damn’ - ‘I tell my grandchildren it’s my telephone number’
May this woman have peace the rest of her life and thru eternity, I’m a Christian, but I squall listening to this... brings me memories of my mammaw
@@densonfletcher8612 The Nazi's were also Christian. It's easy to do anything to anyone if all you have to do to be morally clean is to "ask for forgiveness."
@@yew2oob954 No, they weren't Christian. In fact, Hitler hated Christianity and they were pretty anti-Christian in their ideology. They believed in some really WEIRD shit. You should look into the origins of Aryan ideology. It truly is a rabbit hole. TIK History has a good video on this subject.
@@yashjoseph3544 Stop with the Christian apologetics. Let me guess the "Aryan" ideology came from the heathen Indians and therefore nothing the Nazi's did can be connected to Christianity?😂
Sorry, despite what you were told or currently believe the Nazi's were Christian.
Thou Shalt Not Lie!!
I was doing other things when this podcast started; it made me sit down and listen. I am not sure what to do next.
Go kiss your loved ones and be ready to fight this kind of evil in the future
Same here. Had to stop everything I was doing and just listen
You're cringe bro. Eating propoganda
Keep moving forward....
@@voidscreaming1012 So, you doubt this happened?
I have my grandfather's plaszów camp number tattooed on my arm. 224224
My grandfather was born Dutch but because he lived in a jewish town and married a jewish women he was considered a jew, the germans didnt even care who was rlly a jew or not, if you cared about Jews, had jew friends, or did buissnes with Jews you could have been taken. He had a defective bone disease which I also inherited, and was interned for being partially disabled, most of these people were killed on sight but my grandpa was saved for being able to speak multiple languages and was used as an interpreter at the camps, since then I learned my grandfathers native launguage and got his number tattooed to Never forget and pass my family's history on, if it was today I would likely be taken just as my grandfather was since I have the same condition... but I would likely have been shot on sight.. makes me think alot and my grandpa always tells me I'm so glad it was me and not you, thank god I was able to move to America and your an American. My grandfather is 94 and is still healthy, he still cuts his grass 2x a week, he is so hardcore and has such a great work ethic and is so kind to the misfortunate, he tells me often at how he sees muslims and mexican americans being treated reminds him so much of then... he always tells me to stand up for the weak and needy and to always be kind to every race, creed, sexual orientation, and religion.
maddog Very inspiring story. I will, to, strive to cut the grass 2 times a week at the age of 94. It’s sad that our world is so full of needless hate, not to say that there is more hate than love in the world, but I wish people wouldn’t find the smallest differences to divide over. We should see each other as human beings, not by the labels of our characteristics, and let the solidarity of our actions dictate the judgements of others.
@@happyrobot6396 Never more important than now
@@MountWeissIntrigue Very true. It saddens me that we don't seem to have learned from the horrors of the Holocaust, but comments like maddog's and yours definitely give me hope. You know that quote, "The only thing required for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing?" Well, one thing that may give you hope is that the number of good men needed to stand up to evil is not necessarily as much as one might expect--we don't even need the majority of a society to stand up to an evil and corrupt system. Even just a small, but vocal and minority of people of uncompromising virtue daring to stand up to corruption, sadism, tyranny, and barbaric hatred can bring about real change. And even if the terrible system continues, if you can save even one innocent life, or redeem one young person who was formerly blinded by misinformation and lies, who's to say that is not a victory in itself since every human life is of value as men are not potatoes to be counted solely by number?
Schwarzvogel1 well said. I am heartened.
Put this on at 2 in the morning cause I wanted something to fall asleep to. Ended up staying up till half 5 listening . What a horific story .
Pa Carroll everytime I try to snooze to a Jocko podcast the same happens to me bro
4 til 7am lol
I just discovered Jocko from rogan, listening to only 30ish podcasts, this is the heaviest so far.
Listen to 115 and 160 that's some heavy shit those 2
Jocko and goggins are my 2 all time favorites from rogan
I've listened to close to a hundred at this point. Rest assured this is the heaviest. Her showing her tattoo was the most heart wrenching moment ever on this program.
nick moore I highly recommend episode 12 if you haven't watched it yet. It's about the other side of WWII told from the perspective of a British soldier that became a Japanese prisoner of war.
Jacko is basically the opposite of Rogan: listens and doesn't interrupt, really pulls great stories out of people and is funny.
No matter how bad a day I may think I've had in life, in reality, I don't know what a bad day really is.
No it’s OK. You have had a bad day. There is no oppression Olympics. No one should have to go through what Rose went through.
Hearing what true horror is, let that shape you into a kind person. After hearing her story lett it resonate with you spiritually... this is a woman who was in the pit. She has seen people get everything taken from them and they tried to take her out too. But she had a family that loved her and gave her the wisdom to fight with all the power left in her soul so she would live. This is the story of what people can do and how hope & faith can keep you alive in the worst of situations. Know that like Rose, you are very capable of surviving as long as you have hope.
Listen buddy, nothing is wrong about complain or crying over a not so good day even about a spilt milk, but remember about thinking to be greatful even about the smallest things
Amen
At 1:09:32 Jocko takes a BIG sigh and thinks hard. He pauses for a long time. I can see his passion and read his mind. He is thinking goddamn I wish I could take task force bruiser back in time and storm those gates of Auscwitz.
It's an incredibly pregnant silence.
I almost glisten with glee imagining Chris Kyle and Jonny Kim take out the SS guards one by one while Babin, Monsoor, and Lacz take a battering ram to the gates. In real life, nearly all Nazi concentration camps were found in a state of abandonment by the Russians and Americans. The SS was long gone from them.
@@crashstitches79 what does pregnant mean when it’s used as an adjective
@@crispouk3070 full of meaning; significant or suggestive.
"a pregnant pause"
@@JeewanthaBandara listen to Jesse Ventura about Chris Kyle
Jocko you are a special dude. I dont know how you didnt burst into tears talking with this amazing lady.
I’ve left a bunch of comments but this one... yeah that’s what I am thinking. How does he it?! I thought the same
Wow, the way he conducts these interviews is perfect. He doesn't feel the need to react to every single awful thing that he reads, he simply sits in silence and allows you to ponder and digest the information for a moment. He doesn't feel the need to say, 'Omg!' or 'I can't imagine' or 'That's awful' constantly, he doesn't need to, the story speaks for itself.
Thank you Jocko, for allowing these people to tell their story in the way it deserves to be heard.
It's the first time I see Jock struggling to keep himself calm during a podcast. Rose's story is truly heart-wrenching.
The podcast with Kim was like this, as they were talking about fellow soldiers that died.
these individual accounts of the past are what really matter. when i read about a statistic the meaning hardly sinks in but when there is an individual who tells their story it's almost too much to bear.
it's so good to have this episode on record, the Zeitzeugen (contemporary witnesses) are almost all but gone.
this is so hard for the mind and heart to listen
Texas Outlaw sadly we won’t
Calling ppl Nazis nowadays just because u disagree with them politically, seriously downplays what the real Nazis done
This could be your most important podcast : Number 219
Zionists will surely think so.
Hakan Engman you checkout the Unit 731 episode?
Andrew Graves I couldn’t finish that one
The Kids Nice You must! Everyone should know of the horrors humans can visit on eachother if only so it never happens again, which is why he does episodes like this and unit 731. People have to know.
Andrew Graves I’m aware of what went on
What an awesome woman. Jocko, yet again, you put another GIANT on the podcast! I'm so ashamed....as I listen to this, in my air conditioned car, eating a bowl of banana pudding.....than blinking, and being haunted by glimpses of what these poor children had to endure...this one hurt my heart.
Don't be ashamed. Be blessed and RECOGNIZE how blessed we are...and be vigilant. It's rearing its ugly head in today's "identity politics".
615kane brace yourself, Brent is about to school you on how flat the earth is.
mike reyna lol 😂
@@ed1968man i hear people bitch everyday ( catch myself from time to time) and think of these people, people in 3rd world countries hungry for food, thirsty for water while i have a fridge full of everything i want. I than am humbled
U suffering from white guilt too?
The way he reads this is expert level in eliciting a primal reaction of fear, anger, hatred and empathy. This is heavy man.
"Without hope, we are lost". Indeed Mrs. Schindler. Thank you for sharing your story with us. Thank you Jocko and Mrs Willink for bringing it to us.
I made it 6 minutes and 48 seconds before the tears came. I visited one of the camps when i was in Germany. Knowing the history, it was overwhelming. I was bitter over something stupid today, but this helped put me back on track. An amazing woman. Thank you
I fear that people have forgotten . When history is forgotten it repeats.
It's even worse than forgotten. It's denied, by a large group of Far Right conspiracy theorists. They actually WANT history to repeat.
My opa along with many others hid many Jews in an underground cellar for years while all this was going on. God bless this woman just looking into her eyes, amazes me all that she’s seen
Zach Momo your Opa was a fatherland traitor
@@bh5817 - And thank fuck he had the good sense to betray his country in favor of his neighbor.
Cool story bruh
Your grandfather has more than earned his place in heaven and is the truest definition of a hero.
@@bh5817 Being a traitor took more courage than the people who conformed from fear. If most people where not sheep things like this would not happen. Don't be a sheep bud.
Thank you, Rose and Jocko, for giving voice to history in such a delicate and brave way.
Jocko - if you haven't yet had a survivor of sex trafficking or childhood sexual abuse on your podcast yet, I think you would be one of the best to be able to weave through the gut-wrenching and palpable atrocities with a genuine appreciation for the intricacies of complex PTSD, dissociation, etc. for the survivor and the listeners. This group of people are another example of what it means to be a warrior surviving on sometimes the thinnest thread of hope. Speaking from personal experience.
Thanks again for doing what you do and how you do it.
Episode 70 is close to this topic
I dont have the words for how amazing of a story of survival , determination , and the sheer will to keep moving forward, to keep surviving , this is something everyone should hear, thank you Rose and Jocko for sharing this with the world , This is historical , and thank God , we have this to see , and hear , God bless you all
Thank you Rose and Jocko.
I am german, and I am ashamed for what my forefathers did during ww2 and before.
But I am also proud, because one of my polish grandfathers fought nazi-germany in ww2 with the british international brigade (edit: army of the polish goverment in exile). He also served over 25years in the US Army after ww2.
I will do everything I can to not let something like this happen again in germany.
Don't be. It didn't quite go down the way that you think it did.
@@karkkimarkkinat2109 were you there or are you just repeating what you read from a conspiracy theorist?
@@karkkimarkkinat2109: My grandfather went to german forced laborcamp before escaping to england and he saw a lot of the things the german did during his fighting in europe. So dont tell me it didnt go down how I think it did.
@@e.e.8589 yes and the reasoning for death was typhus, ww2 diseases, starvation. Did you not see the emaciated bodies? The allied terror bombing of Germany had destroyed transportation routes for medicine, food, and other supplies. Diseases also killed hundreds of thousands, possibly millions. That era is very questionable and requires in depth studying that is independent. Wooden doors, windows, reconstructed pillars, Scientific impossibilities, hospitals, currencies, swimming pools, Orchestra. Advanced Modern cremation and oven technology still cannot cremate the amount of bodies as claimed back then, which makes it impossible. Also it takes over 1 1/2 hours to cremate one body, imagine doing so for 6 million + it’s not Mathematically possibly either.
@@e.e.8589 you should examine the political and ideological movement of the established govt of your country. If you knew your own history you’d have identified “diversity” as the new Nazi policy of “lebensraum”. Diversity is simply room for foreigners which discards indigenous Germans. Haven’t taken a hint? You’re being replaced after cultivating an indigenous German identity for 2,000 years. Diversity and multiculturalism are euphemisms. Multiculturalism is simply annihilating western culture. Importing foreign culture is acceptable and “tolerant” but exporting western culture into a country and establishing your own enclave is colonizing. Haven’t figured it out? You’re being invaded. You’re being out bred by aliens who will replace you ethnically and culturally. They will then pursue control of all forms of societal influence and control your countries Path. Then it’s all over for you. You’re stupid. You have nothing to do with Ww2 yet you have everything to do with your future and present. Secure your existence.
I was literally in tears when she was describing the process of how she would escape the death chamber by hopping out of line. The amount of adrenaline I would have had in that situation might have made me pass out. God bless this woman.
Thank you for showing me how privileged I truly am.
My relatives survived there horrors and terrors of the Nazi Empire. Their fortitude and spirit is what keeps me going. Jocko and Echo Charles, I pray Hashem pours blessings on you and your family for bringing this to your podcast. Baruch Hashem!
Can you accurately explain their suffrage? Where is it and how did they suffer? On the eastern front?
Just started. When this brave woman thanked Jocko. Her voice alone after his intro was emotional beyond explanation
made me cry. what an incredible and brave woman, who survived against all odds.
thank you jocko, for helping her share her story.
Finally found this podcast. What an amazing story and just an incredible woman! My favorite Jacko podcast for sure. Incredible story. Needs to be heard by everybody. God bless Rise and her family. And thank you Jacko
My apologies. Rose and her family
Hearing this loud and clear in Australia.
Thankyou sir.
Hearing this loud and clear in Peru, South America. Much respect.
Loud and clear from Florida, USA
Poor echo just barely containing himself the entire time
This is heavy. I come from Poland and my family was affected by the Second World War. Some of the stories I heard are beyond comprehension. So grateful that Jocko pulled the trigger on this episode as more people need to understand what happened in those camps.
Btw - Wondering the reasoning behind all the dislikes.
Because evil still lurks in the darkness...
Jocko always seems so confident and sure of himself. This is the first time I've really seen him shaken and struggling through a podcast. I couldn't listen to the entire podcast at once. I had to listen to in 15 minutes stints, trying to process what I had heard, in between. It is so hard to grasp how evil people can be. I can't even imagine the thoughts going through his head. Good on you, Jocko, for doing this podcast.
I'm catching up older episodes and caught this the other night. Damn. We must NEVER forget how "innocuous" this started. How it escalated so much. Thank you for living Mrs Schindler and telling the story. As we lose people who lived through those times, is heartbreaking to see how people forget.
It’s an honor to be able to listen to your videos you are making a huge difference! I have decided to watch all of them in order from the very first, just wanted to wish you both nothing but continued success and happiness and thank you for your services. 🙏🏽💪🏽
This story is so powerful and so worth hearing. A true story that shows the true virtue of hope which is hoping when everything is hopeless. Thank you so much Ma’am Rose❤️
You ever been in a room with somebody and just sorta felt their presence? I can't imagine what the atmosphere in that podcast room was like. So many memories normal people can't begin to comprehend between those two microphones.
Beautiful podcast.
Jocko sighs like a disappointed father reading many of these passages. Disappointed that the Nazis did these things. Disappointed that he couldn't do something about it. Disappointed that this is actual history of humanity. I shed a tear hearing this story, but am glad it is shared for posterity.
This is why we should all refuse to be disarmed, or to allow government control of our money. We should fight for our liberty, and die for it if necessary. This will not happen to my people as long as I live.
Never give up your guns. Never.
@@botep5529 ^ The paranoid mind.
Dude fuckin Hitler started off by doing shit like taking away guns and a whole lot of other things that need to much explanation
For me to type out but we as the AMERICAN PEOPLE need to stay vigilant because there are many injustices on our country that go on and see no immediate outrage. Watch the ones with money behind the scenes and don't trust the puppets WE elect they all read from someone else's script because when they dont they end up like JFK or become suddenly SUICIDAL wake up and start watching things but most importantly NEVER i say NEVER give up your guns GOD BLESS AMERICA
@Mr. Derp your technically both wrong. Hitler eased restrictions on allies to the regime and seized weapons from potential enemies. Look it up.
This should be required watching for middle/high school history classes, if they even still teach it. I still remember when I was back in school and they taught us about what happened during WWII, and had us read many of the books documenting these atrocities. Really puts things in perspective. Seeing that tattoo...just...wow...such a horrific time, but amazingly strong lady that we should give thanks to for sharing her story.
This gon be one a the heavier episodes of the podcasts compendium. Jocko knows how to make a classic episode. 11th viewer second commenter. Thanks Jocksta. You Sir, are in fact, The Man...
Listened today....unbelievable. Thank you Jocko for having her on and giving her a voice! May we never forget. Ever onward👊🏻
Never forget.
He did such a good job just listening to her.
Don’t think a podcast has ever made me feel this raw emotion unbelievable story, never forget ✊🏻
2 hours in, by far one of the most important stories told on this podcast
No. It's definitely not. Worst episode ever.
@@dak9554 why do you say NO its not ...worst one told??
Israel is the number one enemy of America and this helps obfuscate the truth of that mortal danger to our country.
Propaganda at best. Why do we never hear of the Armenian genocide? Or the ongoing genocide Israel has perpetrated against Palestine since 1947?????????
Am Yisrael Chai.
Jocko...this was absolutely the most wonderful, moving, hopeful, encouraging, uplifting, sad, shocking, and absolutely wonderful podcast you’ve ever done. We all need to hear her words. NEVER GIVE UP. 🙏🏻❤️
Incredible episode. Never forget. Thank you Jocko and Rose.
I was taking an introduction to sociology class in my undergraduate degree that was taught by the department head . This was an unusual situation for an otherwise honored member of the staff of the department. One day the air conditioning broke and it was very warm/hot in the room. The professor opened up his neck tie and rolled up his sleeves while he continued his lecture. A silence fell across the class as we all dropped our eyes and looked to the floor. He stopped talking and looked at the class and asked what was wrong. Then he realized he had rolled up both his sleeves. There , on the inside of one of his forearms were a string of numbers tattooed in a crude fashion. He looked around the class and said that he would take questions on only that day. I asked him why was a department head teaching an introductory class. He said that before the war he had planned to become a psychiatrist. However, facing the events he was forced to deal with during the Holocaust he no longer believed that they were due to individual psychological problems but were due to social/ political problems. So he decided that if he was to survive he would dedicate his life to trying to understand why it happened. He would often talk with me about becoming a sociology major as I was a good student. I felt highly honored by his attention.
Ripped my heart out listening to this.
Same: when he talked about people getting burned alive... my heart was just horrified & like screaming no you can’t do that! This is so wrong and just when it couldn’t get any worse
It’s so sad to think I remember being 14 and what a hard time it was but I never went through anything like Mrs Schindler went through... anyway it is heartbreaking to hear a 14 year old girl’s perspective because you’re so vulnerable at that age. You’re just started to understand the world for yourself and get independence from your parents. Rose was charged with the immense responsibility of staying alive in a place that seemed designed for nothing other than killing a man, whether it was physical or completely breaking your spirit.
She had probably never seen a completely broken person. I imagine that was extremely haunting. Then she started to feel it herself: she talked about understanding why people would want to do that... and it’s so sad the transformation that happened. I feel a protective instinct listening to this
New follower of yours here, Jocko, and I want to thank you for everything that you shine a light on and bring focus to.
This one hit me hard. Even more than "The Rape of Nanking." Holding My small daughter looking in here eyes and hearing her laugh I just can't imagine this.We are so blessed. Must be thankful every moment.
"Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it" - REMEMBER!
What an amazing interview. An incredible woman with such an incredible story. Thank you Rose, from the bottom of my heart, for sharing your story. Thank you Jocko for expanding her platform and pushing her message to so many people.
Her story is so powerful and I have made every effort to meet any survivors of these nightmare situations. I have made my children of all ages to meet and hear these stories of real people and the life they were forced to through and chose to live through. May they never be forgotten.
You can feel the strength in this woman's voice, surviving what she survived, you can't mentally break her.
I can feel the strength of the brainwashing in your comment
@@karkkimarkkinat2109 Barra emchi nayek
@@zakariazouabi5041 = BRAINWASHED.
Heaviest dialogue I've listened to ever. Such an inspirational woman. Give you a lot of perspective and good we really have it. Thank you
Thank you so much Jocko you are a class act all the way, a true warrior and gentlemen. Thank you sir!!!
1:37:19 I can’t put into words the emotion I felt when she pulled her sleeve up. I can’t even begin to imagine how she feels EVERY single time she looks at that. Rose is a true inspiration of never giving up. What an incredible story.
It’s one hell of a thing to go through it, it’s another to sit and listen to someone read what you went through and discuss what happened. This woman, and all those who experienced that inhuman tragedy, are absolutely unbelievable.
I fell asleep listening to Jocko on JRE and woke up to this episode playing. I'm thankful i did, this was life changing.
Thank you for sharing this book and many of the others you have read. The people that recommend you do a pod casts were brilliant. The world needs what you are doing here.
Court Johansson it was Joe Rogan!!
Thank you Jocko and bless you Rose. The world is a better place for having the both of you.
If anyone ever needed motivation to put aside your problems, no matter what you're going through, and just keep moving forward.... if hearing this podcast doesn't motivate you, you don't have a pulse. Beautiful podcast Jocko. This is going to provide motivation and inspiration for me for a long time. What an incredible woman
This is a life changer! How can anyone not be so full of gratitude for all we have.
If you listen real close you can actually hear Jocko’s blood boiling when he is reading about the atrocities
Yes -Very angry and rightly so! 🕊💚🕊👋🏾👵🏽
Amazing woman right here! I purchased this book after seeing this podcast. Rose, you are an incredible lady! So happy you & Max were able to move beyond this horrific experience and begin your beautiful life together. You deserve all the beauty that life has to offer. Thank you for sharing your story. It needs to be heard over and over again.
And Jocko, thank you so much for the way you delivered this ❤
Jocko’s distinctive voice is so powerful, it mightily adds to the heartwrenching depths of the stories his extraordinary guests bring light to
399 people disliked this podcast, what’s wrong with you people ?????
She is against Jesus Christ and Donald J Trump 🇺🇸💪🇺🇸 to go against Trump is to lay with SATAN!
Tommy2shoe811 sarcasm?
yup those are the ones with a problem in their noggin.
They're holacaust deniers.
Conservatives
This generation is almost gone which is why it is important to have these. People often ask why my people continue to talk about this when there have been countless more genocides before and after but its because Germany was considered cosmopolitan and a first world power and the fact that such a cultured society could perpetrate such barbarism is a message to all those who think it couldnt happen again in another western super power.
God Bless you Rose. Many of my family were victims of these dark and evil acts. I live in South Africa and just like the opening chapter of your book, we are presented with a opportunity to learn from yours and the millions of other human beings dire circumstances. your courage and faith is truly inspiring and I will do my very best to inspire others like you have I.
7 minutes Jocko... 7 minutes is all it took of this podcast for the lump in my throat to develop. As soon as she spoke. I felt it. Thank you Jocko. Thank you for these podcasts. Every time I listen, I am reminded that I live a Great life. Even when times are tough. 🙏🏻 Especially When times are Tough
#GOOD
I knew turning this on this morning i was in for a LONG story of ups and downs. Amazing episode. Thanks Jocko, Echo, and Rose!
Powerful podcast but as a Polish citizen I have to say that it is not true that Poles aligned with the Germans during the war. There were some people that called themselves volksdeutsch but it was a minority of Polish society and they were even executed for collaboration with the Germans. Poland fought with the Germans in September 1939 and after capitulation of the army there was a resistance movement created and also Armia Krajowa wich actively fought the occupant. Poland was a victim of the Nazi Germany as much as the Jews were. Polish people fought and also saved a lot of Jews during the IIWW. Polish soldiers fought the Germans all over the Europe for example Monte Cassino or in the Battle of England. There are thousand of stories about bravery of Polish men and women. If you're interested Jocko you should have a podcast for example about Witold Pilecki who was in Achwitz volunteering to create a resistance movement inside the camp and then escaped. Or maybe about the Warsaw uprising. But please don't say that Poles aligned with the Germans because it's not true and there are plenty of stories of bravery and sacrifice to prove that. Sorry for the long comment and also for bad English but I had to say this. Peace from Poland!
How did 5 million poles perish? Is that death toll even realistic? Also Poland was militarily aggressive. They had drawn out a map that would extend their borders over Berlin. They were offered many generous negotiations and peace offers. Find an alternative view on ww2
“Never give up hope and keep moving forward”.
Thank you for sharing this powerful story. Well done.
Mrs. Schindler is such a blessing. So brave. Thank you for allowing her to tell her story.
Brett Weinstein: “When you get to speaking to someone for long enough you get the sense one is talking to a beautiful person”
Seeing Rose the first time and hearing her voice ... it immediately took my breath away. There is a dignified aura about her that makes it all the more moving she has seen the worst a human can see and quite simply she is here.
Another amazing podcast delivered by Jocko - respectful and insightful. Rose's words rang so true "unbelievable" and "unexplainable". So important that this is shared!
She says relatively little but what she says is so powerful.
Jocko, Rose and Echo thank you very much for this podcast/video. The world needs to remember this terrible, horrific time. It is tough to hear but all of us need to be aware of “actions” in our world and take measures to ensure that this never happens again.
they say people sigh to release built up emotions, you can really feel jocko sigh heavily after the things he'd hear
Indeed
Wow. That was deep. Hell of a woman with one hell of a journey. Thank you for sharing.