Dumbledore being the real villain
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Not a Hero, not a Villian, just a man ready to make sacrifices and hard choices
Like severus snape
@@TheRandomChanne No, Dubledore was a much better person than Snape.
Like Illidan
Yea, perfectly put
Yes, but somewhat manipulative imo.
Every character in the books has flaws and darkness, even the good. That's what makes the books great❤
Yes...that makes the series more humanly...
The books yes
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"We all have both light and darkness within us, Harry. It is the part we choose to act on, which defines us." - Sirius Black
Drama also makes books great
It’s like Sirius said the world is not divided into good people and death eaters we have both light and darkness in us
Damn I forgot that line. That's bars!
I think Severus Snape is the epitome of this. Severus was a victim of circumstance and was good underneath it all.
Love this line
@@wonky_shoebox7514 Yeah, but I do think it's strange to blame someone for who their parents are or what their parents did, most adult people know better than that.
Yesssssss
He knew what he was doing. He was also the one who sacrificed himself for the goodness. Got himself killed by severus. Harry was another soldier for him. Like himself.
Dumbledore’s Army
Dumbledore’s Army
Dumbledore’s Army
he didn't sacrifice himself for the goodness.. he was already dying because he could not resist the temptation to wear the resurrection stone even after all these years.. read the books damn it ..
Just like the chess game trio played in 1st/ TPS. Even though one is behind the moves he/she is also the part of game and pieces
Dumbledore just was unique in his foresight. He knew ONLY Harry could defeat Tom Riddle.
Maybe I am misunderstanding you but I don't know about JUST his insight, he was the most powerful wizard of the century haha
Voldamorr
@@Brandon-kp5to use his name Tom Malvalo Riddle
There was also a prophecy that he had heard, so I'm not sure I'd call that foresight..
@@DocMachete Marvolo not MaLvAlO
I never saw a villain sacrifices himself for the greater good.
He was already on deaths door. But one can do good things such as self sacrifice but still be bad for sacrificing others as well.
“the greater good” 🧙🏻♂️
Darth Vader disagrees.
“The world isn’t split into good people and death eaters, we’ve all got both light and dark inside us, what matters is the part we choose to act on. That’s who we really are”
True
I love a good sirius quote
Sirius said calmly
A hero isn’t someone who does good deeds or great things; rather, someone who makes the right choice in tough situations again and again and then genuinely looks back on their choices and tries to improve as a person just ever so slightly, before making their next difficult choice
Ah yes, the hero instructor, been around a lot of heroes have ya?
@@AP-mf4fz😂🤣
"The time has come, execute order 66" dumbledore said calmly
"It will be done" Snape said in a calm voice.
Harry Potter has betrayed hogwarts,
Harry Potter is now dobby's enemy 😂
You Shall Not..... (Haha)
Pass!!
I am YOUR father.. Voldemort said happily
@@skyreapery2n164”NOOOO!” Harry said mortifyingly.
‘For the greater good’ -Albus Dumbledore and Gellert Grindelwald
“The greater good” - The Sandford NWA
@@raspberrynipple9342 Crusty jugglers
No luck catchin them killers, then?
@@axldave9940 it was just the one killer actually
But Dumbledore had one thing Harry hadn’t got…
A GREAT BIG BUSHY BEARD!
Dumbledore did what he had to do in order to ensure Voldemort was defeated. He loved Harry and it must have been very difficult for him.
Which is why he gave him the resurrection stone. So he had a chance at a normal life.
When they found out Harry was a horcrux, Dumbledore knew Harry couldn’t be killed. That’s why he had to get killed by Voldemort in order to destroy the horcrux in Harry which in turn, affected Voldemort.
Rest in peace Sir Michael Gambon .....such a fine portrayal of Dumbledore 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Dumbleodore was old and Harry potter being himself a Horcrux was the only person after voldemort that can hear the other horcrux.Thats the reason he assigned Harry to destroy them.
But he can’t hear them in the book or even feel when one get destroyed? Same with Voldemort
@@Stitch-007nah bro they both can sense it when they are destroyed.
I don't remember what happened exactly but the proof is in deathly hallows book after they robbed Bellatrix locker 🪄
@@BornLegendvoldemort didnt even feel it , he felt angry when he got to know that they robbed her vault and took a golden cup . Also he only felt it in the films , he never felt it in the books
@@sajithreddyregatte8783voldemort is a lich and while nothing i find says that they can sense their phylactery and if it's being moved, i imagine he would probably be able to tell that a piece of his soul just got killed. If you don't know what a phylactery is it's just an item you seal your soul in, horcrux are the same concept split across multiple items
Same reason he avoided Harry, because he knew and there were things he didnt want Voldemort to know and Harry wouldnt shut up about things
He’s not a bad guy. He just has the stomach to do what is necessary. Those without that ability see it as callous.
I don't trust men like that, cuz EVERY idiot abusing others presumes he's: "doing what's necessary". Dumbledore wouldn't earn Mmy trust either. He fights for ideals, not the people he controls.
@@thesurvivorssanctuary6561 You completely forget that this guy got himself purposely killed for the ideals. The thing is that while most who would openly say they're doing it for "the greater good" are actually dumbasses who are very misplaced in their ideals and are not working for the greater good but for self-interest whereas men like Dumbledore who are in the right ideals wouldn't even let you know what they're actually doing. By the time you'd realize what things he plans to do, you already end up trusting him with your life, too late to lose trust. Hardly two or three people would be aware of his grand schemes, and they are equally idealistic as him.
And fighting for ideals is more practical than the people, when you become the leader of an institution, you're trusted with ensuring its ideals and the support for them remain in place, not the people. That's how every nation works, that's how most institutions work, it's easy to brag about human rights by completely side-lining how dire the situation is. But if the person is doing these things solely to protect himself and disguises it as "for the greater good," you know you're dealing with a cold-hearted monster who if not stopped can be the worst ruler you can ever think of. The best example in fiction is Palpatine from Star Wars. Every person, even his own apprentices who served him led terrible lives filled with tremendous suffering. Most who benefitted from his reign benefitted because Palpatine thought they were useful to him, if they outlasted their usefulness, they'd overnight turn into his slaves or bait to lure his enemies into a trap.
WHAT MURDA?!
@@thesurvivorssanctuary6561 we are nothing if not our ideals....
Bro dropped the hardest dumbledore edit and thought we wouldnt notice
That line "I care TOO MUCH about you" has so much more meaning
Yeah because his character was gay, some can think it has so much more meaning 🙈
@cid7819 well being that he seemed a little jealous about hermoine you might be right 🤣
@cid7819 he's not gay in my head cannon.
@@musical_lolu4811Not gay in actual canon of the 8 films either. What followed (especially Rowling's interview answers) doesn't count.
@@chrisoconor9314Dude, it's HER story, if she decides, that Voldemort sercertely was into knitting and had a soft spot for puppies, then it counts as canon as well, no matter how absurd it sounds to you.🤷🏻♂️
If Dumbledore was an actual villain the world wouldn't have stood a chance.
Great point
Exactly!
The one person who thaught it all out and took the most important steps.
the only one who keeps up with dumbledore with manipulation and hiding his thoughts and emotions is snape.
Dumbledore is,was,and always will be a hero
"I am more ,honestly, intelligent than others thus my mistakes are respectively huger in comparison"
~Albus Percival Wolfrikc Brian Dumbledore.
And the fandom says he is humble xD
@@CorderoEspeluznante he is very humble and down to earth otherwise professor Snape would never ever have believed him he hated arrogant people like James AND He knows that he is more intelligent than others and more powerful but he does not underestimate others as well. In short, he knew he was the best but still down to earth, humble and perfect.
@@CorderoEspeluznante it's not vain if it's the truth....
@@SnekOil That's right, Dumbledore only tells the truth, things as they are.
"I knew that Voldemort's *knowledge of magic is perhaps more extensive than any wizard alive.* I knew that even my most *complex and powerful protective spells and charms were unlikely to be invincible* if he ever returned to full power.
"The *brightest student Hogwarts had ever seen"* (meaning he was brighter than Dumbledore and Merlin himself, since both were Hogwarts students)
It happens that these and other statements by Dumbledore are not taken as "the truth" by a certain part of the fandom. But rather as a humble gesture from Dumbledore suggesting that Voldemort is or could be superior to him in something xD
Indeed, when it comes to comparing himself with Grindelwald, the love of his life, suddenly he doesn't seem as humble as he is with that criminal Voldemort
"I knew that we were evenly matched, perhaps that *I was a shade more skillful"*
It wasn't enough for Dumbledore to say they were evenly matched, he had to make it clear to Harry Potter that he was more skillful than Grindelwald.
This is not about who is more powerful, but about how Dumbledore's statements are taken by the fandom. Dumbledore only says things as they are, the truth, but when some people don't like that truth, suddenly it happens that it's not the truth, but he says it out of humility.
@@CorderoEspeluznante Still ragdolled Voldemort 😭
Dumbledore saved the world…twice. He made decisions nobody else could. He is one of the greatest hero’s in literature
Same might be said by many Gestapo officers
Dude Dumbledore isnt real☠️ so in wizard literature MAYBE and only maybe bc we don’t know about all the other great witches & wizards that have lived thousands of years before them - that wasnt the only wizard war or dark villain that has existed
"The hardest choices require the strongest wills"
~The Mad Titan
"What is right and what is easy"
Choosing between what is right and what is easy, is the definition of character.
And yet so many people out there choose what is wrong AND hard lmao
The righteous path is fraught with challenges and distractions, it is never easy... if your life is boring and easy, then you are missing something important.
@@Mejoree113that's so funny and true 😅
@@Mejoree113more like wrong AND easy. It's easier to gave in to desires. It's easy to gave up when things gets hard. But to do the right thing, now that is hard. It takes a strong willpower and determination to see through and not get swayed by temptation.
He couldnt give him too much info. Voldemort can see what he sees
Exactly!
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Excellent point.
No, Snape is a master of legilimency and Occlumency. Thats why Voldemort didn't know he was a double spy and why Dumbledore asked Snape to teach Harry Occlumency.
But Harry isn’t a master of occlumency.
He said "YOU HAVE YOUR MOTHER'S EYES" I rest my case.
A hero would sacrifice you for the world while a villain would destroy the world for you.....
Dumbledore had a complicated past which he spent his whole life trying to atone for. I think he was both afraid of and numb to the extremes after Grindelwald. Too much light can be just as toxic as too much dark
I think Dumbledore was an excellent alchemist, knowing how to use shadow and darkness to aid the light and using the good to draw out the bad.
He did what needs to be done. He sacrificed himself for that.. he is not a villain.
Ugh you sound like my boyfriend
I don’t think you would say that if Harry didn’t come back to live. Dumbledore thought Harry must be destroyed to destroy the horcrux, and if that did happen you would not say this. Dumbledore is definitely a grey character
If his hand wasn't cursed, would he had sacrificed himself?
@@jucxoxUgh you sound childish and cringe
@@finnfasty2347 no, Dumbledore tried everything he could to save Harry from the start and even sacrificed his life for the greater good.
He cares too much about Harry.. Even though according to the prophecy, either Harry or Voldy could live at the end, but Dumbledore still tried his best to make Harry's death evitable.
Dumbledore is my favourite character of all time❤️
He was always a trusted mentor to Harry, a wise and gentle old man. But he had a complicated and painful past.
His youthful experiences had a profound impact on the rest of his life. He knew how important the power of love is.
Same. Like I don't understand why people call him villain.
exactly, the qilin choose him as someone who has a pure soul
Yeah and if he was a villain, him and Grindelwald could have taken over the world easily@@WONDERLAND.whispers.13
“Dumbldore being a villain” shows him fighting the 2nd most evil and powerful wizard after Grindelwald and defending him self against what ever those things in the lake were.
right also them taking Dumbledore walking away from Harry twice out of context like he wasn't ignoring him to be mean he was avoiding him to keep him safe bc he was dealing w some heavy and powerful stuff behind the scenes
He made his students deal with two most powerful and dangerous wizards. I bet he wouldn't have fought Grindelwald himself if it hadn't for the blood pack they made.
He is a good manager who delegates the tasks to others meanwhile he only knows the entire project plan and doesn't tell anyone.
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Dumbledore is a living definition of greater good
That’s the thing with Dumbledore, he’s respected and seen as a wise powerful old man who knows better. But he’s also a man who is willing to sacrifice nearly anything and everything for the greater good.
DUMBLEDORE WASN'T A VILLAIN...😡
He was an ambitious human being, I agree...the problem is we call a self-centred person great if he does a single good thing (example Draco here) ...but we can't tolerate a bit human flaw in a thoroughly good, philanthropic person 🤷
Yesss The Same With Severus As Draco
@@elidagjika8741and neither were good characters?
@@skibidirizzgyatt.Thank u😂😂
Fox will come to you 😅
Its not he wasnt villain or he was villain
Like draco and snape
He was bad in school times
But he changed at some moment ( 6 book or 5 at end)
Snape too (7book or end of 6)
Draco neighter (7 book at end)
“You’ve been raising him like a pig for slaughter?”
The moment we realized Snape really did care for Harry😭
The hardest choices require the strongest wills.
He took tough choices but including about himself, he sacrificed himself many times and he did the ultimate sacrifice
Dumbledore saved the world playing 4D chess against the most powerful dark wizard of modern times. Just because you dont understand every move doesnt mean he isnt on the right side of the game. It is the habit of great men to be misunderstood.
"Hardest choice required the strongest will."
-Wise titan
Dumbledore was a hero! Great man. Flawed but a legend....
U have seen the decisions i made,not the choices i had...best line that defines character of Dumbledore
Am I the only one tearing up at this after Michael Gambon's passing two months ago?
He died!?
Yes
Wait really??
@@daisyyydoggg Unfortunately he has in fact passed away
“You’ve been raising him like a pig for slaughter!” One of my favourite Snape lines
Strongest decisions require strongest wills
Yes, ensuring Harry has martyr syndrome and a devastating lack of self respect, and self worth was definitely a hard decision for Fumbles.
he is what we call a properly nuanced character
Thank you omg, someone with sense
He was extremely capable and had to be the one to handle ish, and he needed Harry to be the same way even if it wasn’t fair. That’s what being an adult is like, sometimes you have to make hard decisions, and you don’t get to be a hero with clean hands
"sometimes you have to choose between what is right and what is easy"
He was a powerful man 💪
he did what he had to do and also sacrificed himself. i love how deep his character is and so is severus.
Dumbledore did whatever he could..
What should've he done? He didn't know that Voldemort was this cruel and vile...how could he give Harry clearer instructions??
He distributed the information and responsibilities properly...he had such a foresight..💯
He could have just told Harry what to use to destroy a horcrux before he died.
@@natureboyswildlife2650 he clearly gave harry the snitch and sword of griffindor. That was a clue to tell harry that the horcruxes can be destroyed using the sword
@@harshitaprusty6640 Yes, but he could have been a little more up front about it.
@@natureboyswildlife2650 ikr. The movie missed showing so many things
@@harshitaprusty6640he could have had harry and hermione with him down to take a few teeths, make them safer to handle, and have hermione smuggle them or the sword out of Hogwarts after sixth year, and not mention the sword in his will.
Dumbledore was my favourite character!
RIP michael gambon
Dumbledore is pure good, he fighted Voldemort, he did the fire thing, he sent the bird to Harry in the second book/movie to save harry. He even offered to help the potters in godric's hollow!
Being right VS Doing right.
A villian wouldn't sacrifice himself for the greater good, that's what a hero does.
Movie watchers see him as a villain, book readers see him as a hero😅
Yes because in the movies negative characters were portrayed to gain sympathy 😂😂
Nope, I watched the movies first and I love my man Dumbledore❤🥰Just my opinion🙌
@cosmofacts8089 you're one of the good ones🤣
So true
I watched movies first but I could just guess that he had his reasons
Dumbledore’s a Hero
Well yes in his defence, Dumbledore knew that Harry would survive again even after being killed 😅
No he didn't, he himself said that in the foggy king's cross station after Voldemort avada kedavra'd harry, that he didn't anticipate that turn of events, he was expecting both harry and Voldemort would finish each other off.
He literally gave harry that snitch.
Not a villain nor a hero, he is a man with a mission
I think Dumbledore makes a good comparison with Aslan of Narnia. During the start of the series, we perceive without doubt that Dumbledore is a perfecfly reliable, perfectly good protector, a symbol of all the good things like Aslan; but as we near the end, we realize that he isn't - which quite ruins the Aslan image but nevertheless makes Dumbledore a more three-dimensional character.
Glad were actually acknowledging this.
He was the most brainy and courageous.💯 His theory was ALWAYS best and easy. Others didn't have the option. If it wasn't for him, the world would've become the darkest it could get. ❓👿👌
ever since Dumbledore heard the prophesy he had years to make a plan. simply incredible.
Dumbledore had his flaws but not evil. Come on, a man of such wizarding ability would have the entire world at his knees but he chose to remain locked in a castle as a Mere Headmaster.
a mere headmaster that also ran the wizengamot and the icw.
He didn't really need to have them bow he already had them on their knees.
He was also a terrible headmaster that stuffed his deputy with all the work.
@@patrickodan That and the fact he enlisted his teachers to literally aid in endangering their own students... Setting up a load of lethal hurdles behind an unsupervised door unlockable by a first year. While actively planning to lure a massmurderer into the school. I'll never understand how not a single student was killed by Fluffy by the end of the first week. There's also the chamber thing in the second book where he refuses to involve the ministry even after people are getting petrified in droves. Along with a load of other questionable decisions regarding the school and its students.
Dumbledore was only ignoring harry to try to protect him.
I'm surprised Harry didn't look at Dumbledores memories through the pensieve after he died
Dumbledore was the greatest magician ever lived in that universe. He knew easy isn't always the best.
Only just noticed they added that line in Fantastic Beasts 3 too
“Do what is right, not what is easy”
Harry was just a soldier in Dumbledore’s army. Like a chess piece being moved around the board, manipulated for the ultimate goal…which was defeating Voldemort.
Dumbledore orchestrated events that lead to the elder wand not answering to Voldemort, Harry owes him his life many times over for that, despite Harry being good at dueling, they all knew in the upcoming battle, Harry was outmatched so they tilted the deck in Harry's favor.
What were those events that Dumbledore orchestrated that led to the wand not responding to Voldemort?
@@CorderoEspeluznante he let draco disarm him before snape killed him, making draco, and not snape the wands master, so even if harry didnt disarm draco voldy wouldnt have gained the wands allegience and thus wouldnt be more powerful for it
@@XiaoYueMao In fact, what is mentioned in the following excerpt of text complements the previous one:
_Then, by the light of the Mark, he saw Dumbledore’s wand flying in an arc over the edge of the ramparts and understood_ ... _Dumbledore had wordlessly immobilised Harry, and the second he had taken to perform the spell _*_had cost him the chance of defending himself._*
-Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - Chapter 27: The Lightning Struck Tower
Here we see how it is stated that Dumbledore, by immobilizing Harry, lost the chance to defend himself from Draco's attack.
This reaffirms the fact that Dumbledore's disarming by Draco should not have happened, it was not part of the plan.
@@CorderoEspeluznante nothing you posted says dumbledore didn't plan it, yes it cost him the chance to defend himself, but that doesnt mean he planned to defend himself to begin with
Dumbledore was a hero, he just wanted Harry to figure things out for himself
There’s one quote I still don’t understand its meaning.
Harry: why did you have to make it so difficult?
Dumbledore: I’m afraid I counted on miss granger to slow you up.
What does that mean?
I took it to mean he was counting on her to make them take the time to think things through so no rash decisions were made, to give Harry time to really process everything that was occurring and prepare him to be in the right spot to make the decisions he made in the end. He also did not want Harry to be in the same spot he was when he was young - obsessed with the Hallows - so it needed to be a slow process so he could possess them with the right mind and soul that was needed to defeat Voldemort.
He didn't want Harry to go after the horcruxes and use them like he did, so he counted on hermione to slow him down in figuring out the horcruxes, until the time was right for harry to figure out how to really use them to master death.
My favorite character, I cried my eyes out when he died, he did evrything to save wizarding world. ❤
Dumbledore clearly isn't a villain. He does what is necessary and only sometimes gets caught by his own weaknesses for example when he doesnt trust harry with the truth until after sirius death.
Or when he touched the ring, knowing the damage it could cause, and caused his premature death.
Well we learned that he was pure in heart at last film of fantastic beasts so no he isnt villain. He is a hero that will sacrifice himself for everyone.
Woah this channel in its edits era
Superb edit tho
He was not the villain he was just a strategic man with great insight who knew that every individual has its own role to play.
Although I do agree that he behaved himself as a villain but he is not a villain I don’t remember the name but one magical animal in fantastic beasts answers only to true hearts who are kind strong and brave and it answered to dumbeldore
He was not a villain, he was smart af.
For the greater good.
HARRY DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE SAID dumbledore calmly meanwhile in the film
Dumbledore can be a hero or a villain depending how you look at him.
That I can be Said about practically anyone. One person's hero is another person's villain.
dayum, didn't know i was waiting for this edit until i saw it, awesome 🔥
He was still just a man with flaws hoping to leave the world better than when he found it. ❤
That is best edit ever😮
You made two Deathly Hallows movies and still managed to tell basically nothing about Dumbledore's backstory and Harry's disappointment in him 😭
Exactly
I feel like he purposefully put Harry though so much because he wanted to prepare him for what was to come. And Harry delivered.
Harry Potter was a battle between Voldemort and Dumbledore. Harry was just a weapon.
And this is how you make such a legendary story - no character is perfect, no character is bad
Thank you JKR you wove a great story. Still loving it in 1023
* 1023?? 😲😲
@@shyama733 😂😂😂 ooops
Ooopps 2023
@@susyward581 we've got this bro... 😀
Not a villain he just made the hard choices a good leader needs to make.
Anyone who hates on Dumbledor for not telling everyone he knew what his plan was, is a spoiled brat in reality. This man saw the full picture and compartmentalized the pieces where and with whom he needed to.
Someone’s a spoiled brat because they wanted Dumbledore to have shared with Harry how to defeat the horcruxes? I mean, I don’t particularly like Harry, but that was really an idiot move of Dumbledore. Also, we’re allowed to have our own opinions. Not be called “spoiled brats”, because we don’t like Dumbledore’s methods. So. Respectfully, don’t judge our opinions, because I’ll gladly judge YOUR opinion that it was a good idea to sacrifice people. There could have been other, better methods, but I guess we’ll never know. McGonagall could have helped by adding in another perspective, she was also loyal to Dumbledore to the core. So she wouldn’t have betrayed him for anything. Dumbledore knew that, and yet didn’t want to get help.
@@Lyra324 Dumbledore couldn't give any information to Harry because Voldemort had access to his mind and it would be like giving your enemy all the information he needs to save himself, if Harry had learnt Occlumency earlier maybe it would have been a different story, that's why Dumbledore avoided Harry in the 5th book.
@@elternera6212 What? Voldemort already knew how to defeat hocruxes, and he wouldn’t have been able to use that information to do anything. The only thing that would have done was help Harry.
@@Lyra324 he knew how to destroy horcruxes but he didn't know that dumbledore knew too, nor that he was teaching it to harry, by keeping their enemy in the dark they ensured he was blindingly confident and arrogant while ignoring the fact that his biggest enemies knew his weaknesses, what they were and how to destroy them
@@elternera6212 Oh, so your saying Voldemort knew what was going on in those lessons? Because he didn’t. At all. He was staying far away from Harry’s mind. So he wouldn’t have known.
Dumbledore is a true hero. Heros make big sacrifices like that
If dumbledore was a villain and truly evil ...no hero stood a chance
He had a mind like a general. Let's leave it at that.
Dumbledore could have been the worst dark lord ever.. more powerful than grindlewald and voldemort. But he dedicated his life to giving speeches on muggle rights, helping minorities and fighting dark lords. Two wars. He literally lived two wars And gave his life to stop voldemort. And he gets called a villain lmao
He's more like a commander, not a typical wise old man.
I’m SAVING this video
The definition of "A hero will sacrifice you for the world, but a villain will destroy the world for you"
Dumbledore was a hero
He was not a villain, but a human with some bad sides. And that's very normal.
Just in luv with this movie❤